M30USA Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 This whole "positive affirmation" garbage is getting out of hand. I mean, it's so ridiculous that I swear nobody will even be allowed to acknowledge that it's cloudy or rainy outside. Don't wanna be negative, do we! The mainstream "church" is probably the worst with this. If I were an visitor coming to earth for the first time and I observed churches and the church culture, taking notes of their spoken beliefs, then I would conclude that Jesus thinks the worst sin a person can committ is to be negative. I would learn nothing of sin or repentance--except of course repentance from negativity. I would conclude that Jesus came to die so that we can live in abundance and not harbor negative mindsets which limit our potential (not to save us from hell). Am I wrong? I'm not debating whether these beliefs are true or not. I'm merely saying that if you were a visitor to earth, would you not conclude this if you had no prior knowledge of scripture or history and just based your new perception on mainstream church culture? Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 This whole "positive affirmation" garbage is getting out of hand. I mean, it's so ridiculous that I swear nobody will even be allowed to acknowledge that it's cloudy or rainy outside. Don't wanna be negative, do we! The mainstream "church" is probably the worst with this. If I were an visitor coming to earth for the first time and I observed churches and the church culture, taking notes of their spoken beliefs, then I would conclude that Jesus thinks the worst sin a person can committ is to be negative. I would learn nothing of sin or repentance--except of course repentance from negativity. I would conclude that Jesus came to die so that we can live in abundance and not harbor negative mindsets which limit our potential (not to save us from hell). Am I wrong? I'm not debating whether these beliefs are true or not. I'm merely saying that if you were a visitor to earth, would you not conclude this if you had no prior knowledge of scripture or history and just based your new perception on mainstream church culture? It sounds to me like a way to use "faith" to get what "I" want and not necessarily what "God" wants. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
d0nnivain Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I belong to a mainstream religion & I have never ever heard the Church discuss affirmations or negativity. The closest they come is the power of prayer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
todreaminblue Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) negativity in my mind is to solicit positive change....i think that movement or progression is obtained through positivity not negativity....i happen to love rain.....because after rain there's this freshness in the air and even just before it rains i can smell it coming ...i prepare to get wet........which is normally soaked through because i never carry an umbrella...... i think you have to have prep for negativity and that prep is positive emotive thought......negativity brings lack of motivation...negativity solicits change but doesn't implement it...... when you go into battle m3ousa you dont go in negative......you go in knowing the negatives and the loss that may happen....but you fight in a positive frame of mind you fight in spite of fear........and to do that you need to think affirmation.....you need to think positive and you need to survive to implement a change......if you do in from a stance of negativity you just wont make it...the motivation isnt there to succeed if you think of the loss you will garner....if churches or people dont have positive thoughts positive affirmations behind them ...where is the will of these brethren to go through and beyond the trials..its takes guts....and you need those guts and hearts to have a unquenchable desire to succeed no leader is borne from neagative affirmations but belief and strength behind them and their abilities ....churches should create leaders among men and the network around them, the congregation needs to create support and edify leaders among men....no where on earth or in heaven is there ever anything but a positive outcome...the battle will be won and fought by leaders not by nay sayers. Satan deals out impossibility in negatives.....full of them ...they feast on providing people the nay saying.....feeding them platefuls of no ....no ....no ...no ...not good enough by gods strongest soldiers will defeat the enemy and the minions beneath him...the strongest soldier always fights for what they love not what they hate....upright strong and steadfast ...all postive affirmations......defeat comes in negatvity and satan and his brethren will fold and be anniilated by strength and the might of positive light their darkness swirling in negativity and lack of support from the leader who is selfishly motviated, snuffed out at the last day.....endless light ....not darkness....all will be revealed through light never darkness.....they cant exist together on the same plane ...its one ro ther other....light.....or darkness..... one must be the other must go......i choose light ......and psotive in affirmation and in god himself......which is truth justice mercy kindness and sacrifice....all positives.....if i sin i turn to the light and away from the darkness and the effect that negative thoughts and actions have on me as a human being..i wish to support leaders of men....not from the darkness but from light driven purpose and design the chain of command uncorruptible and fool proof ......a firm stand a firmer purpose and divine knowledge dealing the hand nto the judgements o fman against another....that is what satan wants us to judge and condemn others to negative views.......and its always positive affirmations from god...wanting us to repent so we can fight with a clear heart and conscience where satan cannot dwell...in our insecurities or feelings fo worthlessness...against the creator who made us and is perfection personified........even in death.....that we know isnt the end is there a light at the end of the tunnel....what would we fight for if that light wasnt there to guide us home?...so go down fighting for the light....i will....whenever and wherever i am able to i fight for whats right...and true...and that for me is always bathed in light..it glows.....bright....and never dulls .......deb Edited July 9, 2014 by todreaminblue Link to post Share on other sites
Author M30USA Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 all will be revealed through light never darkness 95% of the wisdom I have acquired in this life has been through darkness. I'm not saying I'm wise, but what I do have has come through darkness. If this werent the case, then God would not have darkness in the world. Link to post Share on other sites
todreaminblue Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 95% of the wisdom I have acquired in this life has been through darkness. I'm not saying I'm wise, but what I do have has come through darkness. If this werent the case, then God would not have darkness in the world. darkness does have stillness it is a time for sleep for stagnation for rejuvenation for reflection for dreams.....but to illuminate thought or thought processes you need to turn the light on to read ..literally.... darkness is the restoration, the period of not knowing the period of refining and preparation for the new day.......it is not wisdom you found in darkness ....if you have an idea ...is it not called the dawning of an idea or thought......the lightness of being is that we live in the light not get lost in the dark.......have you ever nto had a light to turn on m3ousa and there were no street lights .......no way no path before you but inky blackness there is no dawning of thought there just the recollections of dreams and paranoia sets in with possibilities of becomeing so lost you dotn fidn your way home...there are no new thoughts ....just old ones .....where you sleep with no light to turn off before it is not discernible other than what you saw in day light........ when comics give the impression of a thought that is inspired they use alight bulb m3ousa not darkness but a light bulb..... The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The Lord is the stronghold of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? Though an army beseige me, my heart shall not fear; though war break out against me, even then, I will still be confident. (Psalm 27: 1, 3) Psalms 119:105 Your word is a lamp to my feet, and a light to my path. Matthew 4:16 The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. Matthew 5:14 You are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. John 1:5 And the light shines in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. John 8:12 Then spoke Jesus again to them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. John 12:35 Then Jesus said to them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while you have the light, lest darkness come on you: for he that walks in darkness knows not where he goes. Ephesians 5:14 Why he said, Awake you that sleep, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give you light. James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom is no ficklenss, neither shadow of turning. 1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that you should show forth the praises of him who has called you out of darkness into his marvelous light; 1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleans us from all sin. Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. so can you find me passages that say darkness is the answer or negativity.....deb 2 Link to post Share on other sites
pie2 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 It all comes back to Jesus. As he was mocked, shamed, ridiculed, abused, and killed for us, he remained positive about his mission in that he knew it must be done, and he didn't have a pouty face while doing it. I think you're exaggerating and generalizing the "positivity" a little bit. I mean, if you only ever saw one or two mega church leaders, you might think being happy is a number one priority. But there are SO many more churches than mega churches. They might be popular, but they don't represent the majority of the Christians in the world (by any means). That being said, I do agree that there can be a pressure to be ":DHAPPY:D" and have it all together. Sometimes I think those feelings come from my own projections, in that I assume that's what others are thinking. But other times I do agree that people kind of expect you to have the Christian walk down pat, and to be able to flawlessly react to any and all difficulties. Though those expectations are unrealistic....it is actually the goal! Being positive doesn't mean not encountering challenges, it just refers to how you react to those challenges. Unfortunately, I'm not always the most positive person around. But I would like to be more so in my daily life (and I don't go to a "mainstream church"...so don't blame those desires on that! ). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 95% of the wisdom I have acquired in this life has been through darkness. I'm not saying I'm wise, but what I do have has come through darkness. If this werent the case, then God would not have darkness in the world. A lot of my wisdom has come through the kindness of others, or grace periods. Too much darkness, and you can become bitter and defensive, and just see no good in anything, anymore. It has also come through being able to see where I am lucky. I see beauty in all sorts of different things in the world, I love my parents, and for a good chunk of my life, they have been the best part of my life. I have been lucky enough to meet good people, when I've really needed to be reminded that good exists; they're usually the kind of people who bring out my sense of humour, as well, which is even better. There are ways in which I've been utterly spoiled, and all of the above provides me with the energy and wisdom to try to help where I can - or to be a positive distraction, when I'm capable. There are things about my life that I've never understood, and I've assumed, when I've tried to look at life as though God exists, that I was given the above in order to offset the darkness, and the pain that comes with that. It gives me the energy to go on, and the inability to fall back on excuses for the long term. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author M30USA Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) Pie2, When I read Scripture, I find no evidence of Jesus being "positive". I think that's a mental filter imposed by our culture. What I see in the Scripture in the life of Jesus is neither positivity nor negativity--but truth. Truth is the filter. He didnt care about anything else. The reason I know this is because there are just as many (if not more) examples of him being "negative". Take for example when he was being beaten. He said, "If people do these things while the tree is green, what will happen when it is dry?" He was warning people that when he is gone his persecutors will do even worse things. Is that positive? I wouldn't even say its negative either. It's just the truth. His main goal was to show the truth, not to be positive. It's a subtle shift in perception and theology which can be so hard to discern but you really fall into theological quicksand when you start saying that being positive governed all of his actions. And that's what modern church theology does: the primary governing directive is to be positive. Even when things are clearly not positive, they would have us ignore it and just "speak life". Well, what about when a person is an unrepentant sinner? Even Jesus and John that Baptist warned them of hellfire. Truth is a higher priority than mere positivity or negativity. The latter is mere perception. Edited July 9, 2014 by M30USA 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I wonder if truth is actually love which Jesus spoke of so often. Also joy and truth seem to go hand in hand and want to say that I believe happiness and joy are two different things. Happiness seems to be an emotion combined with circumstances that make us "feel good". Joy is a state of being no matter the circumstances. This could be why so many people reject Jesus. The love part is certainly acceptable, although the truth of love and what it actually is can be a hard pill to swallow. I think in todays society love gets taken way out of context. I'm not sure if this will come out right, however I can see where this positive and negative thing got me into a whole lot of trouble, almost as if it was a diversion from truth in many ways. Link to post Share on other sites
Smilecharmer Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Secularly, I like positive thinking. There is so much bad news and negativity that it can take the air out of the room sometimes. I won't even be around negative, happiness sucking people because they rob me of my peace. Maybe you like darkness and learn from it but for those of us who have had trauma, darkness isn't somewhere I ever want to reside ever again. I don't care of it is hipster to enjoy darkness, I don't and won't pretend to. I'd rather be peaceful and happy than cool. Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 That being said, I do agree that there can be a pressure to be ":DHAPPY:D" and have it all together. Sometimes I think those feelings come from my own projections, in that I assume that's what others are thinking. But other times I do agree that people kind of expect you to have the Christian walk down pat, and to be able to flawlessly react to any and all difficulties. Jesus was a man of sorrows, possibly due to being able to see what others couldn't. I relate "sorrows" to depth, but am most likely way off on this one as far as what the Bible was saying. Pie, I can so relate to what you're saying here. There was a time that I happy all of the time, and it was real- granted there were days that I was exhausted, but my job made me REALLY happy, being around and working with all of the people made me extremely happy. On the same token when I was mad, I was REALLY mad. The weird thing is that there were a couple of people that were offended by my enthusiasm, and some that said, "nobody could be this happy" ...sorry but it was real and I was that happy. Who wouldn't be happy and joyful? My job provided what appeared to be a major portal to God and His revelation and I was given complete freedom in the Spirit. Speaking to others expecting Christians to be perfect...now that has been a challenge to overcome the expectations of another person- they're expecting something out of me that they can't do...do they want me to do it for them:laugh:. Other Christians expect this also, maybe more than the world does. IMO this is lack of knowledge and understanding. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Secularly, I like positive thinking. There is so much bad news and negativity that it can take the air out of the room sometimes. I won't even be around negative, happiness sucking people because they rob me of my peace. Maybe you like darkness and learn from it but for those of us who have had trauma, darkness isn't somewhere I ever want to reside ever again. I don't care of it is hipster to enjoy darkness, I don't and won't pretend to. I'd rather be peaceful and happy than cool. I get cha. There are certain people that drain me too, that literally suck the life out of me. I think this is where the Scripture, Make no friendship with a man given to anger, nor go with a wrathful man, lest you learn his ways and entangle yourself in a snare. What Does the Bible Say About Bad Company? I'm not sure who this is directed at, if anyone here, although all of God's truth is light and not darkness...truth isn't always very pleasant, but I'll take reality any day of the week. Truth brings peace. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author M30USA Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 Yes, good points, Pure. There is a time for everything. There are times to be happy and times to be sad; times to be positive and times to be negative. But as long as truth remains the highest goal, you realize that it doesn't matter whether you're happy or sad, you know? "When times are good, be happy; but when times are bad, consider this: God has made the one as well as the other." (Ecclesiastes 7:14a) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Smilecharmer Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Yes, good points, Pure. There is a time for everything. There are times to be happy and times to be sad; times to be positive and times to be negative. But as long as truth remains the highest goal, you realize that it doesn't matter whether you're happy or sad, you know? "When times are good, be happy; but when times are bad, consider this: God has made the one as well as the other." (Ecclesiastes 7:14a) I humbly think there is a difference in being sad or down to being a negative person. If someone is sad, I want to be there for them and lift them up, be available to give them comfort. Negative people seem like nothing in the world could please them because they prefer to be dark and angry. Am I misunderstanding? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author M30USA Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) Secularly, I like positive thinking. There is so much bad news and negativity that it can take the air out of the room sometimes. I won't even be around negative, happiness sucking people because they rob me of my peace. Maybe you like darkness and learn from it but for those of us who have had trauma, darkness isn't somewhere I ever want to reside ever again. I don't care of it is hipster to enjoy darkness, I don't and won't pretend to. I'd rather be peaceful and happy than cool. I can't say too much here because I don't know you personally. But if a person is deliberately living in sin and blocking out God, what good will positive affirmations do for them? It's just like the prophet Jeremiah who confronted a wicked nation with a message from God (a pretty negative one) and he was driven away as the people said (paraphrased), "No, tell us good news. Tells us words of peace and tell us easy words." The flip side of this is there truly IS a time for being positive. If a person has the "godly sorrow that leads to repentance" and is stuck in guilt, THEN we should be "positive" and make them realize there is no condemnation for those in Christ. But we skip past the bad news and start out with the good news. It doesn't work like that. If a person is not repenting and has no desire to repent, there is no good news. In this case being positive is lying. As the prophet said, "They dress the wounds (ie, sin) of my people lightly and say 'peace' when there is no peace." Edited July 9, 2014 by M30USA Link to post Share on other sites
Author M30USA Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) I humbly think there is a difference in being sad or down to being a negative person. If someone is sad, I want to be there for them and lift them up, be available to give them comfort. Negative people seem like nothing in the world could please them because they prefer to be dark and angry. Am I misunderstanding? It's interesting that, in philosophy and theology, I come across as "negative". But people who know me personally all say that I'm content and hardly need anything. This may seem like a paradox, but I believe it's completely logical. One thing I've noticed is that the followers of positive preachers tend to be the most discontent and anxious. Maybe they are the very ones who want more, more, more...so they follow preachers who tell them how to get more. But it only causes them more discontentment. Edited July 9, 2014 by M30USA Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I've been called an extremely negative person, and I still can be - that's how I know about the darkness and the bitterness. I was feeling it intensely, yesterday. I can be happy to a point, but I'm rarely content. I can see your point there. Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Yes, good points, Pure. There is a time for everything. There are times to be happy and times to be sad; times to be positive and times to be negative. But as long as truth remains the highest goal, you realize that it doesn't matter whether you're happy or sad, you know? "When times are good, be happy; but when times are bad, consider this: God has made the one as well as the other." (Ecclesiastes 7:14a) Amen M30. What a blessing it was to hear your message on truth. It just made so much sense. I meant to say this prior, although my mind was processing it as to how I need to apply it in my own life. I think I'm getting closer to this place (in bold). The Apostle Paul said, "to count it all joy... etc..", I think he was in prison when he said that. He was in prison a lot so I can't remember. Prison is not exactly a joyous experience, yet Paul and other Apostles used that (or God used them) to save the guards and other prisoners- just amazing. Thank you for sharing that wealth of revelation M30, it really set me straight this morning and answered many questions I could see where a person could become hardwired either way with positive or negative. That is some dangerous ground IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
Eternal Sunshine Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Emphasis on positivity in this society is beyond ridiculous. The first day at my new job, there was a sticker on my computer that said: "smile and the world smiles with you" 100 years from now, after we are all long dead - the positivity and confidence era will be looked upon as a joke. Too bad I was born during it Link to post Share on other sites
Trimmer Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Emphasis on positivity in this society is beyond ridiculous. The first day at my new job, there was a sticker on my computer that said: "smile and the world smiles with you" 100 years from now, after we are all long dead - the positivity and confidence era will be looked upon as a joke. Too bad I was born during it I think it's really great how you expressed yourself about that situation at work! You painted such a good picture! Awesome job! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author M30USA Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 Emphasis on positivity in this society is beyond ridiculous. The first day at my new job, there was a sticker on my computer that said: "smile and the world smiles with you" 100 years from now, after we are all long dead - the positivity and confidence era will be looked upon as a joke. Too bad I was born during it It's rare to find a person such as yourself who can objectively evaluate the time period they are in. We always look back at previous generations and laugh how people could be so ridiculous. That very thing is going on right now and I'm glad you can smell it. Link to post Share on other sites
todreaminblue Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) this thread depresses me for some reason.....i fidn it disheartening to know that people agree with, its sickening almost to think if you smile the world will smile with you...when actually most of the time its a physiological action if someone smiles it is passed on....that a smile at someone who needed it can often brighten an otherwise negative day i deal in truth and i know sometimes the truth hurts......and theres always the fact when you are trying to be positive someone is there or around the corner to take you down i am not discontent.......because i look for positive messages and positive people i am an empath who needs to get away from the pain of others for a while to bring back my positivity i dont know but i woudl take a wild guess very few on this board have ever been beaten and literally stoned nearly drowned and raped repeatedly as a child ...but ill still smile and say yep lets try and find a positive.. the world brings me down all the time or the truth as you put it...i know what goes on i deal with it.......the drug addicts the violence the broken families the beaten children , the girls who have been raped by men who should know right from wrong. housewives who have black eyes and arms in slings the teens who get booted onto the streets death rape murder abuse alcoholism gambolling drug use, teens with mental impairment from sniffing....yeah that one is my daughter she is on a disability pension now........ seen it all..........all of it....every last sorry piece of it.......now...should i slit my throat now or later......why should i smile......i dont know if i should does it make light of all i know and feel ...........but i know i can in spite of what i know.......i read psalms......i find comfort in nature gods creations....i try to count the blessings in my life.... soemthing was said last nigth when we were doing a scripture study......it was abotu peopel sitting back and being a waste of space....letting life happen day to day around them ......maybe thats me....a stupid smiel on my face hoping i make soemoen else smile......just one person...not the whole world...im out......i am not celebrating my birthday today....a friend is dying in hospital wracked with the pain of a bleeding out liver due to chemo....she has two weeks......so my birthday isnt a cause fro celebration.......when death has coem knocking to someone i care about.......i know truth.......i should dwell there.... but then god said be as children or ye wont enter the kingdom......i dont think children are meant to not be positive, nor are they meant to carry the weight of the world on their backs like jesus did with his cross....the burden is far too heavy for us......for me to be weighted down.......in darkness and futility driving my good intentions......truth i can handle...darkness and futility of being.....its a no............deb Edited July 9, 2014 by todreaminblue 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 this thread depresses me for some reason.....i fidn it disheartening to know that people agree with, its sickening almost to think if you smile the world will smile with you...when actually most of the time its a physiological action if someone smiles it is passed on....that a smile at someone who needed it can often brighten an otherwise negative day Aw, Deb. I've just been so depressed, I'm easily knocked down. But I also feel happiness today, felt it two days ago, four days ago. I think it might be a normal amount of happiness, but I'm still dealing with a sort of hangover from the past four years - and yesterday was also a *very* bad day. I was the most scared I think I've ever been, just over a month ago, for reasons I won't go into here, and then again yesterday. i deal in truth and i know sometimes the truth hurts......and theres always the fact when you are trying to be positive someone is there or around the corner to take you down i am not discontent.......because i look for positive messages and positive people i am an empath who needs to get away from the pain of others for a while to bring back my positivity Discontentment doesn't have to be a bad thing - I tend to feel it when I need, or want, to really do something. I would just like to feel more peaceful in general - I'm quicker to anger, and the more negative thinking, than I was in the past. I mostly agree with you. Please don't be depressed. i dont know but i woudl take a wild guess very few on this board have ever been beaten and literally stoned nearly drowned and raped repeatedly as a child ...but ill still smile and say yep lets try and find a positive.. I was strangled, and I've been physically attacked as a kid, and in recent years. A boy also tried to set my hair on fire when I was in high school - nuts, really scary, although I had no real reaction at first, I was just stunned. the world brings me down all the time or the truth as you put it...i know what goes on i deal with it.......the drug addicts the violence the broken families the beaten children , the girls who have been raped by men who should know right from wrong. housewives who have black eyes and arms in slings the teens who get booted onto the streets death rape murder abuse alcoholism gambolling drug use, teens with mental impairment from sniffing....yeah that one is my daughter she is on a disability pension now........ seen it all..........all of it....every last sorry piece of it.......now...should i slit my throat now or later......why should i smile......i dont know if i should does it make light of all i know and feel ...........but i know i can in spite of what i know.......i read psalms......i find comfort in nature gods creations....i try to count the blessings in my life.... soemthing was said last nigth when we were doing a scripture study......it was abotu peopel sitting back and being a waste of space....letting life happen day to day around them ......maybe thats me....a stupid smiel on my face hoping i make soemoen else smile......just one person...not the whole world...im out......i am not celebrating my birthday today....a friend is dying in hospital wracked with the pain of a bleeding out liver due to chemo....she has two weeks......so my birthday isnt a cause fro celebration.......when death has coem knocking to someone i care about.......i know truth.......i should dwell there.... but then god said be as children or ye wont enter the kingdom......i dont think children are meant to not be positive, nor are they meant to carry the weight of the world on their backs like jesus did with his cross....the burden is far too heavy for us......for me to be weighted down.......in darkness and futility driving my good intentions......truth i can handle...darkness and futility of being.....its a no............deb Link to post Share on other sites
todreaminblue Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) Aw, Deb. I've just been so depressed, I'm easily knocked down. But I also feel happiness today, felt it two days ago, four days ago. I think it might be a normal amount of happiness, but I'm still dealing with a sort of hangover from the past four years - and yesterday was also a *very* bad day. I was the most scared I think I've ever been, just over a month ago, for reasons I won't go into here, and then again yesterday. Discontentment doesn't have to be a bad thing - I tend to feel it when I need, or want, to really do something. I would just like to feel more peaceful in general - I'm quicker to anger, and the more negative thinking, than I was in the past. I mostly agree with you. Please don't be depressed. I was strangled, and I've been physically attacked as a kid, and in recent years. A boy also tried to set my hair on fire when I was in high school - nuts, really scary, although I had no real reaction at first, I was just stunned. hey anela, i am sorry to hear you had a bad day yesterday,and i am sorry to hear that you have had violence up close and personal too, i found an online course the other day ......a free course that is about understanding violence i thought i would do it, so i can help myself and others understand.......because i really dont understand violence i should considering but i dont...i know the triggers and the look of violence in someones eyes i dont know the whys......an di dotn get to see a lot of justice for survivors either https://www.coursera.org/course/violence it starts in a month anela and its free you could do it with me if you wanted to your right about discontentment initiating change.....restlessness...i dont think however i blindly follow people when i am discontent hwoever.....i just try extra hard to move on to contentment, i dont look to others to make me happy...like i dotn look to others to brign me down but that stuff happens regardless doesnt it...peopel can make you feel happiness or sadness...its normal.. i am down today.......i am down because i prayed for god to give a year ...take a year from me if that would make it fair..... to my friend......to my granddaughters other nanna .......she doesnt understand death and she is a clever two year old.......she is upset and i feel it her son is upset and i feel it my daughter is up[set and i feel it......and then i feel my own emotive response in hopelessness, that i cant fix it...........i am upset because i know that this lady who has been stoic fro the past year is in phenomenal pain and there's nothing i can do to make the pain stop....and i am sinking in that fact......so today is my birthday and i am struggling......the only comfort i have is this lady believes in god and being with her daughter who died of cancer many years ago, but she believes and still she will leave behind a son in denial(he plans on feeding her weed will give her another year), my daughter feeling guilt for nto being there...and a granddaughter who doesnt know whats going on at all.........i am sad today......i am sorry and it wasnt your post that made me that way.....i read all the posts together and the negativity sort of blinded me fro a minute...i block read its a speed read thing .....eliminating words that are inconsequential liek and and the and joining whole passages together and words were jumping out at me and my frame of mind was low....so that fact colored the words...i know that....i didnt mean to maek you feel bad anela if i did.....i apologize....hugs from me..deb Edited July 9, 2014 by todreaminblue 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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