King Bowls Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 What are some brutally hard hamstring stretches that are almost medieval like? I want it to make my hamstrings feel like noodles, almost to the point where it rips the hamstring off the bone. Are there good spinal stretches that can prevent back pain from lifting? Link to post Share on other sites
Haydn Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 King great post as usual, You could set both feet in concrete? Drag it around for a few days? Not strictly gym like but certainly medieval. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
learning_slowly Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Bent over rows will strengthen the lower back. But I would ensure your core is strong first. These will stop back pain, as your back will be stronger. Link to post Share on other sites
Author King Bowls Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Bent over rows will strengthen the lower back. But I would ensure your core is strong first. These will stop back pain, as your back will be stronger. I've done dumbbell rows with up to 155 lbs, but it seems that it just works one side. How can I get huge dbells off the ground properly? Link to post Share on other sites
dichotomy Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 This video should help for your... um...wait... ...what was the question? Seriously though these moves in this video are ones I have used to help with my lower back and leg flexibility. Link to post Share on other sites
learning_slowly Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I've done dumbbell rows with up to 155 lbs, but it seems that it just works one side. How can I get huge dbells off the ground properly? Do bent over barbell rows. Study your form. If you can't do it correctly, you can't handle the weight. Try lighter with correct form. But I suggested rows and I mean Romanian deadlifts! Link to post Share on other sites
Ninjainpajamas Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Just have someone push your back towards your legs while extending your legs in front of you together, sitting down. The normal stretch, I don't know why you need a monster medieval torture stretch, regular stretches work fine for athletes. Unless you're trying to be a ballerina and got one foot on a bar in front of you putting your head to your knee. I wouldn't recommend bent rows at all if your lower back is bothering you, you're likely to put too much weight on the bar and put too much pressure on the part of your back and exacerbate the problem. Try deadlifts if you want which is better/safer than rows, in fact I wouldn't even suggest free weight lifts if you're starting, go with ab works out that allow you to twist and work the abs and the back, as well as hyperextensions...you don't need to go straight for the jugular in fact that's probably more likely to injure yourself. Strengthen the core first and then try the harder stuff like rows, most of these workouts with free weights for the back and legs require good form, if you're not sure how to do them properly then ask someone who knows and can help make sure you're using the right form because often times people think they are in the right position when they're really not, bending their backs, using their backs and using other parts of their bodies to compensate which can easily result in an injury as they try to go up in weight. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author King Bowls Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Just have someone push your back towards your legs while extending your legs in front of you together, sitting down. The normal stretch, I don't know why you need a monster medieval torture stretch, regular stretches work fine for athletes. Unless you're trying to be a ballerina and got one foot on a bar in front of you putting your head to your knee. I wouldn't recommend bent rows at all if your lower back is bothering you, you're likely to put too much weight on the bar and put too much pressure on the part of your back and exacerbate the problem. Try deadlifts if you want which is better/safer than rows, in fact I wouldn't even suggest free weight lifts if you're starting, go with ab works out that allow you to twist and work the abs and the back, as well as hyperextensions...you don't need to go straight for the jugular in fact that's probably more likely to injure yourself. Strengthen the core first and then try the harder stuff like rows, most of these workouts with free weights for the back and legs require good form, if you're not sure how to do them properly then ask someone who knows and can help make sure you're using the right form because often times people think they are in the right position when they're really not, bending their backs, using their backs and using other parts of their bodies to compensate which can easily result in an injury as they try to go up in weight. Can deadlifts create back pain? My goal was to row a 200 lb dbell but that will be put on hold, like you said it's not worth messing my back up over Can deadlifts make a vertebrae pop out? Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) Can deadlifts create back pain? My goal was to row a 200 lb dbell but that will be put on hold, like you said it's not worth messing my back up over Can deadlifts make a vertebrae pop out? Deadlifts can absolutely hurt you if you don't know how to do them. When folks perform it with a rounded lower back I'm expecting those vertebrea to pop. Have you ever had someone competent show them for you? I used to go powerlifting and a coach taught me how to do all the major lifts with proper form. Good mornings are very good with stretching your hamstrings and loosen up your lower back gently. Just with a bar/wooden stick, nothing heavy. Edited July 21, 2014 by Emilia Link to post Share on other sites
Author King Bowls Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Deadlifts can absolutely hurt you if you don't know how to do them. When folks perform it with a rounded lower back I'm expecting those vertebrea to pop. Have you ever had someone competent show them for you? I used to go powerlifting and a coach taught me how to do all the major lifts with proper form. Good mornings are very good with stretching your hamstrings and loosen up your lower back gently. Just with a bar/wooden stick, nothing heavy. No one has showed me since 2010. I need to jump on to the deadlift and develop a fairly high 1 rep max. I want to do strongman and deadlift is essential Link to post Share on other sites
dichotomy Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) Because of lower back issues I gave up on straight deadlifts and only do trap bar deadlifts now. But if you are going to do competition strongman or powerlifts - straight deadlifts are inescapable. This DVD which I have watched - has good teaching on proper form. Amazon.com: Starting Strength: Basic Barbell Training: Mark Rippetoe, The Aasgaard Company: Movies & TV Edited July 21, 2014 by dichotomy 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 No one has showed me since 2010. I need to jump on to the deadlift and develop a fairly high 1 rep max. I want to do strongman and deadlift is essential I think you would do well to join a powerlifter's gym or something similar because to get to that 1 rep max in a sustainable way is not easy. It's not a matter of lifting more each week, if you have various strength imbalances, those need to be fixed and you probably need a program such as 5/3/1 or similar. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Thruster Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 King: want the best to start with and it requires (very expensive machines) Stand Back -- here it is Toe Touchers Don't worry they work reach down and hold - yep - -it's it! count to 15 if you can - -work up from there (take a break if needed) once you get to your kness -- then toes - -then time to get your hands flat on the floor There you go -- tip of the day 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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