lollipopspot Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 EasyHeart, your quote is interesting, but I think it's too simple in terms of the conclusions being drawn from it. It's quite possible they just didn't get enough food and that disease contributed, etc. Here something about a post industrial height change Steckel believes a variety of factors contributed to the drop – and subsequent regain – in average height during the last millennium. These factors include climate change; the growth of cities and the resulting spread of communicable diseases; changes in political structures; and changes in agricultural production Men From Early Middle Ages Were Nearly As Tall As Modern People Also, Diamond makes an incorrect and old assumption that proteins must be complemented. If enough whole foods starches are eaten to maintain weight, there is enough protein. Link to post Share on other sites
Ninjainpajamas Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Unfortunately at 5'9 being 230 lbs, that's quite a bit of weight, you are definitely out of the realm of just losing 30 to 40 pounds...don't get me wrong, that would be a helluva start and if you settle there and are happier I'm all for it...but 230, that's quite big. I'm 6'1 205-210 pounds my weight is fluctuating right now and an ectomorph body type, I could stand to lose even more weight (my gym buddies even give me hard time about it, but they're bit like little girls anyway, all skinny and small and crap) because I still have a bit of loose weight on me...maybe even down to 190, it's hard to say. I think you have probably become a bit disillusioned by what your "normal" weight should be, seeing yourself so long at one weight I can understand...but once you start losing the pounds you'll notice that it comes off from all over and there's usually more you could spare to lose...but at 43 years old, I wouldn't say you need to be a fitness model or anything but it's good for your health the farther you go, you should be around 160 to 170 I would guess, and that's with some muscle on you, and you won't likely be perfectly skinny but you'll look good...a world away from where you are now I'll tell you that much. So it's going to take your diet, eating under your calorie limit. Get in the habit of eating in a routine so that it becomes a habit and just normal, then of course burn the calories where you can...in the gym, at work going up the stairs or whatever...taking the long way to get places, park farther away in the parking lot, wake up later, get a better sleep so you have more energy throughout the day, kick any late night eating habits which can be difficult if you're a night owl. Start simple man, don't be one of those people that gives yourself the whole lunch truck of goals and expectations then fall off two weeks later because it's too much, just focus and change one thing at a time. Simple things; - Don't stress about it - Reduce or eliminate sugary drinks/soda/sport drinks (this can easily eliminate some quick pounds) - Reduce the portion size of what you eat (you probably eat a certain amount out of habit rather than actual hunger) - Go out and eat and enjoy your life, don't take your outings out of the picture, stick with that, just cut back where you can until you can get on track - Eat less bread, try to switch to sweet potatoes...actually go to the grocery store and visit the vegetable isle find stuff you like Start small, and as you start seeing results most people get a boost of motivation and want to do better for themselves...if you give yourself too much, you'll get overwhelmed, stress yourself out too much then end up falling off the wagon 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mysterio Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 Today I went on the scale and since I have taken the advice of eating clean with Veggies and Protein on the side. I went from about 231 to 226 in about the last week or so. I will keep everybody updated. Another thing to add. I work night and evenings. So my bedtime is about 3 or 4am. Or 9 am to go to bed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hasaquestion Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Today I went on the scale and since I have taken the advice of eating clean with Veggies and Protein on the side. I went from about 231 to 226 in about the last week or so. I will keep everybody updated. Another thing to add. I work night and evenings. So my bedtime is about 3 or 4am. Or 9 am to go to bed. Keep up the good work man. Do you hydrate well during the day? Helps suppress appetite. Link to post Share on other sites
Tayla Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Men (in general) are more apt to lose weight quicker then ladies in the early stages of weight reduction. Ignore anyone that thwarts excercise into your daily regime. walking, stretching and Body streghtening is important to the overall energy needed to sort out your metabolism. Three key differences that I put forth in my lifestyle change were: (1) Get a full medical exam to include blood work for cholesterol, organ health and any digestive concerns. (2) Speak with a nurtitionalist once the results are in. I was low in iron and have gastro endo concerns, and kidney problems. The menu and food choices are awesome! It took two weeks for my body to re-adjust and show improvement! I go in next month for another series of blood work to see if this new menu is aiding. (3) Met with a Health trainer to work on my overall physical rehabitating of my muscles and energy. Protein for some folks may be key yet I had to be careful not to oversaturate, as it harms my kidneys. The new food choices are key to good health. I now eat yogurt every day, Cranberry pills or juice , and Lots of Leafy vegetables. I've lowered the bad fats and now gain thru soluable fats which are actually good for the heart. Water Flushes out the fat ...and its so far been great on clearing my skin! I juice more with fresh blends of veggies and fruits. I actually have found that sugary foods drag my energy down.. Keep up the level of achievements, I think you are on the right track. Be good to yourself ...its a life journey not a trial version. Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Ridiculous.... Anyone who tries to put human beings in "boxes" as far as what they should weigh, just doesnt know what they are talking about... Thats kinda like saying all women should be 5'2" 110#- 36DD with 24" waists.. People vary in terms of musculature, bone density,etc...There are SO many factors... I've been called a lot of names, fat? never... At 5'6" id be at unhealthy bodyfat levels if I dropped under, say, 175..A year ago, when I dieted down, my BF levels were in the 7/8% range..I got as low as 186 and felt horribly sick and started to lose lean muscle mass... Also, I have known many people that are completely healthy, yet carry some additional weight in fat and fall outside of the "charts"...They excel in sports and have great cardiovascular fitness... Conversely, there are many people that are very lean and have many health issues.. Its just not that simple....Not every guy is meant to be built like Pee Wee Herman... TFY Link to post Share on other sites
FitChick Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 People who join Weight Watchers have historically had the most success losing and keeping the weight off. I've read this in survey after survey over the years where they compare different diets. You have to change your lifestyle and doing it by limiting yourself to an extreme diet won't work. Link to post Share on other sites
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