MissBee Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 The women in these scenarios are just liars who are incapable of rejecting someone or maybe keeping you around as a backup plan, and YOU are the one who is being passive aggressive. Precisely! Link to post Share on other sites
enternetic Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I think a lot of times people, especially women, thrive on having as many friends at one time as possible. So they "throw them a bone" every now and then, just to maintain that contact and keep their social circle alive. That's why some people like face book so much, having a few hundred friends (even if they never see or talk to them). I boosts their self worth. My sister purposely hands out her phone number to just about anyone, so she can brag to her friends that she has "all these guys" that want her. It's pure joy to her to have people calling her all the time, even if she has no intention what's so ever of ever seeing them. Link to post Share on other sites
GemmaUK Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 That IIII wasn't interested in these women?? You have no idea how way off you are. The general interactions/approaches/history with yourself and these women weren't expressed so I have no way of knowing. Saying 'IIII' and that my thought was way off makes me think perhaps it was the other end of the scale and perhaps you were a little over zealous in your approaches with them? Some women love being chased completely by a man. Some love chasing. Some prefer the middle ground where there is a bit of a challenge and the 'chase' is on both sides. How many times dates had you already been on with the women your opening post was about? How had things been progressing prior to the conversations you posted? Link to post Share on other sites
Zeurich Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Sorry for this to sound gender related, but I think this is more frequent with women than men For those of who have ever been blown off or flaked out by a woman, some tend to stick around to attempt to string along for a little more longer. For instance, I had a situation where this woman, who lives about a 30 min drive from me said when she's in my town, we could get together. But...this has never happened. *If that not happened are you sure she lives 30 min drive away from you or 24 hrs flying hrs away from you may be? WE'd be chatting online and she'd say, "Oh, hey I was in <name of my town> and I was thinking about you and I went to that store. Is not that clear that she is not interested in going out with you? Me: "Oh, you mean the store you talked about when we were suppose to both get together to go visit while you were in my town?"*is not that you your self passion or aggressive or arrogant how ever it called towards to her? There was a time way back, where this woman, she'd always call me and make tentative plans to get together...she said she wanted to see a certain movie with me, and something would always come up...usually "work" related.* How come you don't understand that she is using you as a back up plan? Or she might not interested at all? Then one time we're talking on the phone and she would "let it slip", Oh, I went out with some friends and saw <name of movie title>"* is not that clear that she has enough friends to go to a film other than you? Me: "Oh, you mean the movie you and I were suppose to go see? How come you didn't call me when you were going to go see it with your friends?"* Is not that you piss her off? Her: "Oh, the movie sucked anyway, and it was such at the last minute, too".* The movie sucked any way she given you the hint what you like she did not like how come you don't get that? That being said, I wonder when women say this, are they purposely trying to upset you as a man?* People are different and their reactions towards to the situations are different, and it is not only woman , men do silly things too. It is depend on how people solve on things and how they try to reject things. There are men and woman who cannot accept NO as an answer. So I think what your statement gives here you are a person who is not willing to accept NO as an answer and she is a woman who does not drop out what she thinks or what she wants or not REJECTING directly. And for you Mr,, what ever happens with the woman you dating you need to solve that out with her not here on a message board. As another member said before we woman cannot answer because this is not something we did to you. you really need to get in to the bottom line with her. And discuss it and take it further or finish it. Other wise it look like you washing your laundry here on public Link to post Share on other sites
Zeurich Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 This is what I think too. And OP, you pose your questions in terms of gender instead of people. Notice that gay men and lesbian women don't make the same gender associations when they discuss dating and partners. It is possible to see people as people, and individuals as individuals, and to view the trials and tribulations of dating as the pains of people rather than the victimization of one gender and faults of the other gender as a whole. I've seen very passive aggressive men and women. I used to do a lot of divorce work and passive aggression was common but not more common in one sex than the other, as far as I could tell. I don't see her going to the movie with someone else to be passive aggressive. Maybe her telling you about it is, but her going to the movie with someone else doesn't seem to be. Another thing is kind of interesting in this. Was your invitation for a date actually an invitation for her to contact you if she was near you? If it was, I wouldn't bother contacting someone to do something only if I had gone to him or her, because I'd figure that person wasn't very interested in me. you got it that quick I don't understand why he does not.... Link to post Share on other sites
SummerDreams Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I'd never do this with a guy I really like. I like to be totally open and spontaneous. I hate games, unless they are about a short period of flirting. After this period one should make their feelings clear and in the open, sooner than later. Link to post Share on other sites
DorothyGale Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Sorry for this to sound gender related, but I think this is more frequent with women than men. For those of who have ever been blown off or flaked out by a woman, some tend to stick around to attempt to string along for a little more longer. For instance, I had a situation where this woman, who lives about a 30 min drive from me said when she's in my town, we could get together. But...this has never happened. WE'd be chatting online and she'd say, "Oh, hey I was in <name of my town> and I was thinking about you and I went to that store. Me: "Oh, you mean the store you talked about when we were suppose to both get together to go visit while you were in my town?" There was a time way back, where this woman, she'd always call me and make tentative plans to get together...she said she wanted to see a certain movie with me, and something would always come up...usually "work" related. Then one time we're talking on the phone and she would "let it slip", Oh, I went out with some friends and saw <name of movie title>" Me: "Oh, you mean the movie you and I were suppose to go see? How come you didn't call me when you were going to go see it with your friends?" Her: "Oh, the movie sucked anyway, and it was such at the last minute, too". That being said, I wonder when women say this, are they purposely trying to upset you as a man? She doesn't sound Passive Aggressive at all. She sounds like she's just not that into you. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
mikethemechanic Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 There are people out there who are vindictive; maybe they didn't get the wedding that they had planned for as a child perhaps the one they loved dumped them at the alter. Remember in the movie Great Expectations "what kind of creature does this? Takes this? Takes such a gift, such as a trust? Takes advantage of a 42 year old woman. What kind of creature leaves her waiting like a fool? A MAN, Does this this. So men must pay am I right? Estella will make men weep." That quote gets me every time I read it. Link to post Share on other sites
mikethemechanic Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Sorry for this to sound gender related, but I think this is more frequent with women than men For those of who have ever been blown off or flaked out by a woman, some tend to stick around to attempt to string along for a little more longer. *If that not happened are you sure she lives 30 min drive away from you or 24 hrs flying hrs away from you may be? Is not that clear that she is not interested in going out with you? *is not that you your self passion or aggressive or arrogant how ever it called towards to her? * How come you don't understand that she is using you as a back up plan? Or she might not interested at all? * is not that clear that she has enough friends to go to a film other than you? * Is not that you piss her off? * The movie sucked any way she given you the hint what you like she did not like how come you don't get that? * People are different and their reactions towards to the situations are different, and it is not only woman , men do silly things too. It is depend on how people solve on things and how they try to reject things. There are men and woman who cannot accept NO as an answer. So I think what your statement gives here you are a person who is not willing to accept NO as an answer and she is a woman who does not drop out what she thinks or what she wants or not REJECTING directly. And for you Mr,, what ever happens with the woman you dating you need to solve that out with her not here on a message board. As another member said before we woman cannot answer because this is not something we did to you. you really need to get in to the bottom line with her. And discuss it and take it further or finish it. Other wise it look like you washing your laundry here on public My used aunt used to say unless your gonna give me something, I.e drinks and food then don't ask me out. She was referring to her girlfriends. Link to post Share on other sites
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