Where do ugly guys meet beautiful women?

[hotpotato]

Better get them while they are young. I've learned that less attractive guys aren't any better, so I dont deal with that anymore. It helps to have money.

 

Milla Jovovich is married to a not so hot man, but he's a director making $$$$$$.

[irc333]

Yeah, mismatched couples.... there's this one woman at my workplace, recently married a tatted up wanna be over 40 "Homie". She's very attractive has class, but the dude looks like just like a meth addict or is a member of some gang.

 

I had to shake my head when she posted a pic of him doing gang signs, hat on backwards and tatted up white guy pretending to be black. Made me think whatever she saw in him.

 

 

I've been seeing a lot of really odd couples in public in the recent years, where the woman is leagues above the man, at least looks-wise and sometimes in other ways too. Just today I saw a couple that consisted of a guy that looked like a retarded pitbull with baggy shorts, a t-shirt that looked more like a skirt and a backwards baseball cap. The woman he was with, on the other hand, was the epitome of class and natural beauty. She was tall, had almost zero unnecessary makeup, she was slender, had a very nice skirt/dress on, had natural ginger hair, narrow/noble/dignified face, etc... They were holding hands and walking, she was gliding along like Jesus on water and he was walking awkwardly, crooked-legged. I thought WTF? Where do these guys meet these women? Some of these guys are even uglier than I am on my worst day and the women they are with are nearly perfect, like something from a fairy tale, and the men are more animal than human. Do they meet at bars? Do they meet through friends? How can I meet women like that?

[HappyLove]

"I've learned that less attractive guys aren't any better, so I dont deal with that anymore. "

 

Yes, the ugliest men I've dated turned out to be the worst people. Meanwhile I've met absolutely gorgeous men with morals and standards who treat people with respect.

 

Sometimes we think the ugly guy would somehow treat us better or not be superficial but it's not the case.

[iiiii]

Rest assured if really unattractive guys have a really good looking woman, he's sacrificed character for looks and is probably with a golddigger or something with extremely bad self-esteem or is very needy. It's unlikely there's a healthy sexual dynamic in their bed. The power balance will be skewed in different facets, going both ways though. It's really not anything to aspire to.

 

Or maybe she's sacrificed looks for character...

[Joaquin]

Theres a girl at work who would be considered by many good looking and she has a cracking body.

 

She has an awful awful personality. Makes my skin crawl. In fact she a total a-hole.

 

She married a bald really ugly guy. The guys friends and family apparently cant stand her. I guess he sees something in her.

[smackie9]

Theres a girl at work who would be considered by many good looking and she has a cracking body.

 

She has an awful awful personality. Makes my skin crawl. In fact she a total a-hole.

 

She married a bald really ugly guy. The guys friends and family apparently cant stand her. I guess he sees something in her.

 

He sees nothing in her but some hot looking chick in other instance would never be able to have......

[Kid_Charlemange]

Some of these guys are even uglier than I am on my worst day and the women they are with are nearly perfect, like something from a fairy tale, and the men are more animal than human. Do they meet at bars? Do they meet through friends? How can I meet women like that?

 

They all have a great deal of self-confidence, which is something almost all women seek in a guy. They almost certainly have a great sense of humor as well, which seems to be #2 for a lot of women.

 

Of course, those features alone are never enough. Assuming that really are the trolls you are describing them as, they are probably very wealthy.

[ascendotum]

Where do these guys meet these women? Some of these guys are even uglier than I am on my worst day and the women they are with are nearly perfect, like something from a fairy tale, and the men are more animal than human. Do they meet at bars? Do they meet through friends? How can I meet women like that?

 

As you described that guy in your example as a pitbull, my guess is that what you see as ugly in the face these women see as macho guys. You are focusing on the men's facial aesthetics and attire, but minimizing their machisismo appeal I'd say. Masculinity rocks for a lot of women. With the cap on backwards and his bit of a cave man walk, I'd say he probably also has a solid build, a bunch of tatts and attitude. I know women who went out with guys with an average face or a bit of busted up face, which the women would point out how much they did not care about looks as a result, but the guys were also built like rugby footballers and were very masculine in nature (prob also the bedroom). Some guys don't see the appeal in such guys to women, but don't discount masculinity. Like some women don't get why some guy's are attracted to ditzy/twatty/immature/coy/submissive petite girly women, because of the femininity.

Edited September 1, 2014 by ascendotum

[Joaquin]

I would say that most of the time these guys met the pretty girl through work or friendship groups. People pair off. These guys are often just in the right place and in the right set of circumstances at the right time. You see a pretty girl with an ugly guy you simply can't know what the story is. I rarely see it if I'm honest.

 

Really pretty woman do not simply go with the minger and to suggest for a second that these guys have winning confidence that won these girls with bar room banter and quick wit is utter tosh.

 

Right place, right set up.

Edited September 1, 2014 by Joaquin

[newmoon]

my current bf is short and ugly - it's the truth. i am tall and beautiful, also the truth. i hated him initially, cuz he was ugly as all get out. but he treated me like gold, gave me compliments about things that mattered and had nothing to do with looks, he paid attention to personal details that others didn't, and he was around when i went through hardships. i called him a 2 on a scale of 1 to 10, and still think he's only about a 2-4. but he's a great guy.

 

we met at work, where i was able to see past the ugliness and get glimpses of how he was as a person. it helps when a girl can see you often at work or another place you always are, and get to know "you," i believe. once i left the office for a transfer he asked me out. i said no at least 20 times over the course of about 9 months, and eventually said yes. that confidence/persistence to pursue for so long and even have the guts to think i'd say yes... it was very flattering and made me like his character.

Edited September 1, 2014 by newmoon

[taiko]

Plenty of places.

 

 

First Class Seats on a plane to Europe

 

In a Mercedes Coupe outside a South Beach Miami Club

 

A penthouse party in Vegas.

 

 

the list is endless

That doesn't account for the shoe salesman and UPS drivers on sitcoms.

 

There are the Lykis factors of fame, power and money. Along with hot women being at one time a hot girl who hooked up with a football player like Peggy Bundy or a gangster and had a hot factor handicap at home with babysitting grandparents

[preraph]

Keeping in mind I've lived long enough to have observed quite a lot, I stand by my statement that drew fire. I'm making no assumptions but basing it on people I've been around, none of whom were stellar characters, I might add.

 

Also, everyone needs to keep in mind that just because a man is ugly doesn't mean he is of better character than the man who is handsome. In these threads about trying to get the good looking woman even though they're not good looking, it seems to me it's always implied that they, the homlier men, are of superior character to the good looking ones. There are plenty of homely men with inferior character, and I would count those who feel entitled to and hellbent on getting a good looking woman at any cost among them.

Edited September 2, 2014 by preraph

[Phoe]

Is it really so impossible that he's just a really great person and she likes that about him?

 

Why's it gotta be money? Big penis?

 

Why's she gotta be ugly on the inside or a bottom feeder?

 

Maybe, despite their differing appearances, their personalities really resonate with each other. Maybe they make each other very happy.

 

 

I'm certainly no head-turner, but I'm decent looking. People said AWFUL things about my first boyfriend. Nobody could understand why I was with someone who was "unattractive". Yes, stereotypically speaking, he was not attractive. About 5'6, skeletally skinny, large glasses, very pale, unmanageable hair. He did not have money. He had a normal penis. I adored him because he was an amazing person in my eyes. Spending time with him brought out the best in me. And because I adored him, his little quirks became attractive to me. I adored his wild unkempt hair, I loved the pale skin coated with freckles, I loved the kind eyes behind those large glasses. I didn't care about the unstylish clothes he wore.

 

Why does everyone seems to forget that sometimes one human just really likes another human?

[Joaquin]

my current bf is short and ugly - it's the truth. i am tall and beautiful, also the truth. i hated him initially, cuz he was ugly as all get out.

 

I think this is useful. He is now her "boyfriend". I think over time these relationships develop, but the girl says he is ugly. Which is an awful thing to say about your *cough*... "boyfriend".

Edited September 2, 2014 by Joaquin

[Phoe]

Read these forums for a bit and you'll see why. So many people prioritize looks over everything else these days.

 

 

I don't need to read these forums for a bit, I've been a regular here for years! lol

[SJC2008]

Confidence isn't the proverbial silver bullet bit it is import. That being said, the smart thing to do would be to focus on more attainable women instead of hoping for a long shot. All men would obvioisly love to date a bikini babe but there are plenty of women who aren't bikini babes who are attractive. I've said this before but I'll reiterate: It is a sociological *fact* that acceptions aside, people date those of similar race, religion, economic background and similar level of attractiveness. I.E, leagues do exist.

[taiko]

I have no clue. Ugly guys can get nice looking women. Men have it sooo easy. Unattractive women are screwed.

 

My clue, men and women are different. I woke up this morning to talk radio reports about a four year study the US government is funding to determine why 75% of lesbians are obese while gay men are not. The implication is clear. You don't have to meet the present social definition of attractive to attract women while men, even gay men need that attractiveness factor more to get them to act, to pursue a relationship.

 

It reminds me of when the subject of homosexuality came on up a Pinoy board I am on it is said that men really like seeing lesbians together, as often happens. However someone started actually naming the out of the closet Filipino celebrity lesbians and suddenly the porn fantasy girls image disappeared and when comfronted with real life examples lesbian sex lost it hotness factor among many in the thread

[smackie9]

Just confirms that is why women are attracted to confidence more so than the physical aspects of a man.

 

Men=physical

Women=emotional

[StanMusial]

my current bf is short and ugly - it's the truth. i am tall and beautiful, also the truth. i hated him initially, cuz he was ugly as all get out.

 

Why did you have to hated him? I can honestly say I don't hate many people at all, and I've never hated one soul for having an ugly face. Geez.

[hotpotato]

Just confirms that is why women are attracted to confidence more so than the physical aspects of a man.

 

Men=physical

Women=emotional

 

Puhleeeeasee lol That kind of thinking must be why men will work out for men but not for women.

I dare you to watch the mitary channel. Youll see women drooling over Navy Seals and Green Berets. Hell, look up Roy Slagle. Women drool over him.

I think women have you learned to adapt. Most men just arent hot like that. Maybe 5% of men are very drool-worthy, and thats a small pool from which to choose a husband.

[taiko]

Puhleeeeasee lol That kind of thinking must be why men will work out for men but not for women.

I dare you to watch the mitary channel. Youll see women drooling over Navy Seals and Green Berets. Hell, look up Roy Slagle. Women drool over him.

I think women have you learned to adapt. Most men just arent hot like that. Maybe 5% of men are very drool-worthy, and thats a small pool from which to choose a husband.

 

Navy SEALs and Green Berets meet the elite status thus the fame, in the Lykis fame, power and money triad. The same goes for the women in the Officers club going for fighter pilots in the movies. How many of those women will drool after the hot tank turret mechanic?

[taiko]

The fact the our government is paying for this research is a waste of taxpayer money. Also, their conclusions can easily be dismissed.

 

I have no ideal what they concluded I was talking about the first implication which came to mind in relation to this thread when I had knowledge that there was a study at all. As it is 75% obesity figure triggering someone to put in for a grant to make the study does seem to be exaggerated.

[hotpotato]

Navy SEALs and Green Berets meet the elite status thus the fame, in the Lykis fame, power and money triad. The same goes for the women in the Officers club going for fighter pilots in the movies. How many of those women will drool after the hot tank turret mechanic?

 

A lot, if hes tall, handsome, and has defined abs.

 

Women like physically attractive men, too. Its not just gay men lol

[carhill]

Continuing the military angle, one place I heard many stories about from my parents, regarding men of all 'leagues', from tank mechanics to fighter pilots, meeting beautiful women was at the USO dances. My mom, working during the day at the B24 aircraft plant installing avionics, would double as a dancer at the USO at night and dance with the servicemen who were in-port (San Diego). Considering the dearth of men, many being off to war, there was a surplus of women, and plenty of beautiful ones, as pictures she saved from that era would attest to.

 

The operative lesson from that which, IMO, still applies, is that a man can meet beautiful women if he's out and about in the world, especially socially, where meetings can more likely progress simply due to the time and space for social interaction. They don't have to end up in a lifelong partnership. It's OK if it's just one night of pleasantries or, as my mom used to say, dancing the night away.

 

Reflecting on that, I remembered another way of meeting beautiful women, even though it wasn't specifically on my mind when I pursued it.... back when I worked as a docent in our rain forest at the zoo, I would volunteer for all the large public and private after-hours events. I often met quite stunning women, some from quite wealthy families, at fund-raisers and parties. Very social, dark, mood lights, water running in the background and the animals doing their thing. A bit romantic. Certainly social. I passed up a few good opportunities simply because I was too polite and didn't want to mix business with pleasure. In retrospect, that was a mistake. That's life!

[taiko]

Continuing the military angle, one place I heard many stories about from my parents, regarding men of all 'leagues', from tank mechanics to fighter pilots, meeting beautiful women was at the USO dances. My mom, working during the day at the B24 aircraft plant installing avionics, would double as a dancer at the USO at night and dance with the servicemen who were in-port (San Diego). Considering the dearth of men, many being off to war, there was a surplus of women, and plenty of beautiful ones, as pictures she saved from that era would attest to.

 

The operative lesson from that which, IMO, still applies, is that a man can meet beautiful women if he's out and about in the world, especially socially, where meetings can more likely progress simply due to the time and space for social interaction. They don't have to end up in a lifelong partnership. It's OK if it's just one night of pleasantries or, as my mom used to say, dancing the night away.

 

Reflecting on that, I remembered another way of meeting beautiful women, even though it wasn't specifically on my mind when I pursued it.... back when I worked as a docent in our rain forest at the zoo, I would volunteer for all the large public and private after-hours events. I often met quite stunning women, some from quite wealthy families, at fund-raisers and parties. Very social, dark, mood lights, water running in the background and the animals doing their thing. A bit romantic. Certainly social. I passed up a few good opportunities simply because I was too polite and didn't want to mix business with pleasure. In retrospect, that was a mistake. That's life!

 

That was WWII when there was an all in factor among the nation. Military were all the young men of society except for the pre Captain America Steve Rogers. And like the "elite" special forces today all soldiers held the fame card. By the Vietnam War era that was over

 

The elite factor is so strong that it will be hard to find a male veteran protagonist in any fictional movie, TV show or book series who was not in the "elite" forces. The Military/History Channel host and interview subjects all claim that they were among the "elite operators". The Jack Reacher series comes closest to just a GI Joe and he was a better rifle shoot as a CID investigator then Army snipers. And if he wasn't "elite" then he was a Marine, institutionally the USMC rejected the elite label on their sub forces even if they finally added units to the Special Forces joint command. Still among Marines in popular culture somehow they all served on "elite" recon or as scout/snipers. Even MP Gibbs of NCIS somehow found time to be a scout/sniper