no weight loss gym every day

[Priv]

Haha I had to look it up but yes, I have thought about it on occasion.

 

Have you actually ever seen one? Guess it is an American thing (unfortunately), as in none of the gyms I have been I have never seen one . They seem fun.

 

 

But to actually contribute something to the thread. Have you heard of complexes? It is doing a bunch of freeweight exercises in one sitting, taking a rest and do them again. It is supposedly great for fat loss. But make sure you practice the different movements a bit before doing it because they are not the easiest. But complexes are done at a low weight, so I guess the chance of injury is relatively low. And might build some muscle too.

 

 

T Nation | Screw Cardio! Four Complexes for a Shredded Physique

 

 

Also, overweight or not, I bet you look great with all that exercise and eating healthy and stuff you are doing. And maybe you just aren't meant to be lean since I guess you never have been?

[ufo8mycat]

Im not sure why the offensive posts. SO many people I know eat whatever they want or crave and dont go to the gym and yet I go daily and do juicing to help cleanse the body and get the vitamins from vegetables and fruits right to the bloodstream.

 

I would ditch the juices or at least add in a protein powder and some complex carbohydrates. Even whole meal toast after your smoothie. Your calories are probably way too low to even meet your basal metabolic rate so it wouldn't be a surprise you are not loosing fat.

 

In terms of exercise I think do what you enjoy. Sure you can get ripped with weights and HIIT but if you hate it you won't keep it up. It is 80% diet anyway.

 

See a dietician or nutritionist. They can help you work out your macro ingredients and give you a food plan. Juices are nice but they are not meal replacements and can be calorie dense without being nutritionally dense. I use them a lot but I added yoghurt and protein powder but only because I have orthodontic work happening. I miss food with texture

[deathandtaxes]

Im not sure why the offensive posts. SO many people I know eat whatever they want or crave and dont go to the gym and yet I go daily and do juicing to help cleanse the body and get the vitamins from vegetables and fruits right to the bloodstream.

 

I am not on ANY diet and I came here to run my workout by you guys to get some good feedback. I would never expect to hear what Im doing is horrible, terrible, Im on a fad diet, Im starving myself.

I came to get educated not insulted? Im not on Slim Fast or drug store diet pills? Im just trying to do what I know and was just asking for help.

 

Some of the insults really are surprising...if I had claimed to be the expert I wpuldnt have asked for help. Thanks for those of you who had given me some good pointers.

 

 

 

WE're trying to help you! But we need ACCURATE information. Which is - how many calories do you consume in a day? How much juice? How much protein? A gallon of juice? A pint? The more accurate you are with us, the better advice we can give.

[thefooloftheyear]

Im not sure why the offensive posts. SO many people I know eat whatever they want or crave and dont go to the gym and yet I go daily and do juicing to help cleanse the body and get the vitamins from vegetables and fruits right to the bloodstream.

 

I am not on ANY diet and I came here to run my workout by you guys to get some good feedback. I would never expect to hear what Im doing is horrible, terrible, Im on a fad diet, Im starving myself.

I came to get educated not insulted? Im not on Slim Fast or drug store diet pills? Im just trying to do what I know and was just asking for help.

 

Some of the insults really are surprising...if I had claimed to be the expert I wpuldnt have asked for help. Thanks for those of you who had given me some good pointers.

 

 

Why bother asking if all you want is people to pat you on the back and bullshyt you..

 

Quite a few of the members that commented are very knowledgeable..

 

It never ceases to amaze me how easily people get insulted...Good thing you didnt have a mom like mine...she is harsh!..

 

But seriously..

 

Dont take it to heart...I dont see anything thats wrong with any of the posts...If I am doing something wrong, ID expect someone to say it sucks...no sense in sugar coating it...You want results, no?

 

Good Luck

 

TFY

[herself]

I figured out a few meals and their calorie count.

I have about 2000-2200 per day.

I am 5.6 1/2 165 (sometimes 160)

I forgot to count the creamer (real half and half) in my coffee so add that, maybe 4 oz.

The treadmill burns between 400 to 500 calories, Ive seen as much as 600. I dont know how many I burn lifting weights...

[herself]

Ps. I just checked my bmi its 26.4, should be under 25 so thats one thing

Also, I dont know how much of my body weight is muscle, I do some floor excercises like pelvic lifts and push ups, free weights 5 lb. About 30 reps of each move and weight machines for chest, shoulders, abs, butt, quads...I rotate those machines each time at gym trying not to do the same two days in a row.

Today I did 8 min on stair master, 30 on treadmill high/low interval...and lots of weight machines...about 20 minutes or so. Then 100 pelvic lifts.

[Maleficent]

I figured out a few meals and their calorie count.

I have about 2000-2200 per day.

I am 5.6 1/2 165 (sometimes 160)

I forgot to count the creamer (real half and half) in my coffee so add that, maybe 4 oz.

The treadmill burns between 400 to 500 calories, Ive seen as much as 600. I dont know how many I burn lifting weights...

 

The problem with BMI is that as soon as you start weight training, it screws it up because 1 pound of muscle is smaller than 1 pound of fat.

At 5'6, 165 pounds I think all you need to do is tone up but forget about losing weight (on the scale).

Besides, muscle burns calories even when you are resting and doing only cardio is not helping you build muscle mass (which is why I suggested earlier doing less cardio and more weight training. If you want to build muscle mass, forget the low weight/high reps. Lower the number of reps and up the weight. Women do not have enough testoterone so you will NOT bulk up)

 

Whatever you are doing right now isn't working so what do you have to lose trying something different?

(pun intended! haha!)

[deathandtaxes]

I figured out a few meals and their calorie count.

I have about 2000-2200 per day.

I am 5.6 1/2 165 (sometimes 160)

I forgot to count the creamer (real half and half) in my coffee so add that, maybe 4 oz.

The treadmill burns between 400 to 500 calories, Ive seen as much as 600. I dont know how many I burn lifting weights...

 

 

 

Shave 100-200 calories off your daily consumption and you'll probably be golden. If you're not losing weight right now, it shouldn't take too much to budge you in the right direction.

[herself]

Im excited to hear Im not too far off track...

Im ready to incorporate some changes...

Should I also cut out a day at the gym?

Feels good to go daily but I worry its too much.

Also sad to hear the cardio is kinda working against me as it really helps with stress and anxiety. I feel inspired after a good long cardio session. Bah!!

I mean we cant have cheeseburgers and milkshakes...but now I cant have CARDIO?!?

Ha ha ha...but understand

[Emilia]

Im not sure why the offensive posts. SO many people I know eat whatever they want or crave and dont go to the gym and yet I go daily and do juicing to help cleanse the body and get the vitamins from vegetables and fruits right to the bloodstream.

 

I am not on ANY diet and I came here to run my workout by you guys to get some good feedback. I would never expect to hear what Im doing is horrible, terrible, Im on a fad diet, Im starving myself.

I came to get educated not insulted? Im not on Slim Fast or drug store diet pills? Im just trying to do what I know and was just asking for help.

 

Some of the insults really are surprising...if I had claimed to be the expert I wpuldnt have asked for help. Thanks for those of you who had given me some good pointers.

 

It's that mentality of going to the gym every day, doing 'stuff' and not actually assessing your goals, evaluating what you are doing, putting your big girl pants on and do it. When someone points out that it's completely useless and will make you look worse than when you started, you take offence. If you want advice rather than a pat on the back for being a good girl (albeit with useless workout programme that ruins your physique long term) read the article. If not, carry on.

[Emilia]

Have you actually ever seen one? Guess it is an American thing (unfortunately), as in none of the gyms I have been I have never seen one . They seem fun.

 

Nope, not the in the UK! It's really hard to find a well equipped free weights gym in London, frustratingly so!

[Andy_K]

Ps. I just checked my bmi its 26.4, should be under 25 so thats one thing

Also, I dont know how much of my body weight is muscle, I do some floor excercises like pelvic lifts and push ups, free weights 5 lb. About 30 reps of each move and weight machines for chest, shoulders, abs, butt, quads...I rotate those machines each time at gym trying not to do the same two days in a row.

Today I did 8 min on stair master, 30 on treadmill high/low interval...and lots of weight machines...about 20 minutes or so. Then 100 pelvic lifts.

 

Okay, cut your calories by 500 a day so you're somewhere in the 1500-2000 range. You may need to go lower, but if you were maintaining the same weight at 2000-2200 you should be okay. Don't expect to lose more than a pound a week. Also, if you don't already have an athletic physique it's likely you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time, so pay more attention to how you look in the mirror and what your waist size is, than what the scales say.

 

Use heavier weights, you should not be able to complete 30 reps of anything. If you can do more than 12 you probably need to up the weight, and by your third set on any exercise you should be more or less at the point of failure before you hit 8-10 reps. You will be surprised how much heavier you can lift than you think you can. Also, it will hurt.

 

Use compound exercises instead of isolation exercises and machines - do squats, dead lifts, presses, pull-ups, and that sort of thing. If you're working multiple muscle groups at the same time you're going to benefit far more from your gym time. Chances are you won't be ABLE to workout for an hour because you'll have nothing left by then.

 

You can continue the cardio, but limit it to 20 or 30minutes. If, at the end of your cardio session, you think you could do an extra ten minutes on it, you didn't have the intensity high enough. Bump it up a level or two next time.

[PegNosePete]

I figured out a few meals and their calorie count.

I have about 2000-2200 per day.

Well there ya go. You were getting a bit ribbed because you failed to answer this very basic question and people were making asumptions based on the extremely limited information you were providing. "Why am I not losing weight?" The answer is always, "because you are eating too many calories".

 

The body will go to remarkable lengths to avoid losing its stored energy reserves. Your metabolism will slow down. Even if you burn 600 in the gym, your body will reduce its metabolism and energy levels for the rest of the day to compensate. It has become accustomed to having X input and Y output, and does its best to make X=Y so that you don't starve to death, and have a healthy amount of fat storage in case of times of hardship. The body can't control X, so it adjusts Y by burning slower.

 

So what you need to do is shake that up. Reduce by a few hundred calories, by having a balanced diet (cut the almonds and stop this silly juicing thing). Change your workouts around, try different activities. Eat protein rather than carbs and cut saturated fat.

[herself]

Well there ya go. You were getting a bit ribbed because you failed to answer this very basic question and people were making asumptions based on the extremely limited information you were providing. "Why am I not losing weight?" The answer is always, "because you are eating too many calories".

 

The body will go to remarkable lengths to avoid losing its stored energy reserves. Your metabolism will slow down. Even if you burn 600 in the gym, your body will reduce its metabolism and energy levels for the rest of the day to compensate. It has become accustomed to having X input and Y output, and does its best to make X=Y so that you don't starve to death, and have a healthy amount of fat storage in case of times of hardship. The body can't control X, so it adjusts Y by burning slower.

 

So what you need to do is shake that up. Reduce by a few hundred calories, by having a balanced diet (cut the almonds and stop this silly juicing thing). Change your workouts around, try different activities. Eat protein rather than carbs and cut saturated fat.

 

Juicing is not silly and have you done your research on raw almonds health benefits?

I like the rest of your post thank you.

[PegNosePete]

Juicing is not silly

Yes it is. What Are the Dangers of Juicing? | LIVESTRONG.COM

have you done your research on raw almonds health benefits?

Yes they are 575 calories per 100g. That is your entire workout wasted for just a small handful.

[HermioneG]

I guess I was under the impression that since I wasn't eating simple carbs, processed sugar, and processed fats, plus healthy dinners and intense workouts that I didn't need to count calories. I thought if anything after the workouts I actually was way under the calorie intake since I wasn't eating cheeseburger and cake and do consistent workouts.

 

No.

 

At the end of the day- it is calories in and calories out. Dietary fads- like paleo or low carb- at the end of the day- "work" because they reduce total calories by food restriction. It is not a magic combination of foods. It's the calorie baseline.

[Imported]

Have you actually ever seen one? Guess it is an American thing (unfortunately), as in none of the gyms I have been I have never seen one . They seem fun.

 

Nope, not the in the UK! It's really hard to find a well equipped free weights gym in London, frustratingly so!

 

 

At least one of my gyms has that. Think it's a crossfit thing, sure any crossfit gym has it, but then you'll have to workout around with crossfitters

 

I think a lot of our "normal" gyms are buying into crossfit or at least provide the area and equipment to do so if you choose. My main gym has a corner devoted to crossfit, but that gym is like over 120,000 square feet.

 

That prowler thing looks like a sled. We use that in football since forever. I'm talking about "American" football of course. You people in not-America might not be aware. I am sure you can buy these sleds on Amazon.

[Robert Z]

No.

 

At the end of the day- it is calories in and calories out. Dietary fads- like paleo or low carb- at the end of the day- "work" because they reduce total calories by food restriction. It is not a magic combination of foods. It's the calorie baseline.

 

 

The benefits of a low-carb diet can be dramatic for people who have blood sugar issues, which is a significant percentage the population. And there are possibly deeper arguments to be made with respect to cancers. Ketogenic diets are now being used as a treatment for cancers; some experimentally and some for already recognized benefits.

 

Blood sugar problems can lead to obesity. A ketogenic diet followed by a low carb diet can break the vicious cycle of weight gain and insulin toxicity, and I'm living proof of that. Were it not for Atkins, I would probably be dead.

Edited September 4, 2014 by Robert Z

[HermioneG]

The benefits of a low-carb diet can be dramatic for people who have blood sugar issues, which is a significant percentage the population. And there are possibly deeper arguments to be made with respect to cancers. Ketogenic diets are now being used as a treatment for cancers; some experimentally and some for already recognized benefits.

 

Blood sugar problems can lead to obesity. A ketogenic diet followed by a low carb diet can break the vicious cycle of weight gain and insulin toxicity, and I'm living proof of that. Were it not for Atkins, I would probably be dead.

 

You know what's hilarious?

 

The insulin response that low carbers are trying to avoid?

 

Protein also induces an insulin response, and it is almost equal to carbohydrate intake, and in some cases- higher. LOL!! Here's a scientifically accurate primer :

 

 

http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

 

Don't bring the cancer studies into it- those are not proven, well researched, and the consensus from scientifically literate peeps is that it is a waste of effort.

 

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/ketogenic-diets-for-cancer-hype-versus-science/

 

People on low carb who lose weight do so because they are cutting out major portions of food groups. It isn't magic. Ketogenic diets aren't a good thing long term, nor are they magic. People with a true understanding of chemistry, biology and physics can easily discern it's not true.

 

 

Science is our friend. Moderation rules the day. Calories in. Calories out. No magical thinking needed. As for whether or not you would be dead ~ I have no way to prove a negative, nor do you. But the drama of that statement doesn't change the facts of the matter. Science does not support the premise for the reason you think it does. And you've made a lot of statements not based on evidence based science.

Edited September 4, 2014 by HermioneG

[Phoe]

Based on the information, I'd suggest reducing the juicing, eating fewer almonds (yes they're good for you, but they are very calorie rich). I personally avoid nuts because it is very easy to add on a lot of calories to my day in just a handful of nuts.

 

I aim for 1800 cals. on a normal day, with a MAX of 2200 cals. on days when I'm going to be burning a particularly large amount of calories.

 

There's definitely no need to be going to the gym everyday. Rest days are good for you.

 

Try working out harder with the cardio, for shorter amounts of time. For example, when I'm on the elliptical, I will go all out, fast as I can for a minute, then slow down to a moderate pace for a minute, then speed back up to a max speed for a minute, keep doing that back and forth for about 10-15 minutes, then I'm done and I move to my weight training, which usually will consist of moves that target many areas at once, like squats and pullups. I will isolate a few particular areas like calves and triceps, just because I enjoy isolating those areas.

 

To switch it up every now and then, I will do a full body intense movement cardio workout like rowing, throwing a medicine ball, battle ropes, or just swimming some laps.

 

Track the calories, reduce the time in the gym while increasing the amount of energy you put out at any one time, and results will follow.

[Phoe]

Also, protein is your friend.

 

My meals typically are very basic.

 

A meat, a vegetable, and a small amount of grains.

 

Like a rice bowl with chicken and broccoli in it, or a steak with green beans and potatoes.

 

Lots of proteins, a little bit of carbs.

 

I typically am not interested in fruits. Bananas at breakfast sometimes.

[HermioneG]

This is a great tool for estimating daily caloric needs:

 

ETP Calculator | Eat to PerformEat to Perform

 

Calorie needs vary according to starting weight and activity level. This calculator is great and can really help you get a sense of where to start.

[thefooloftheyear]

This is a great tool for estimating daily caloric needs:

 

ETP Calculator | Eat to PerformEat to Perform

 

Calorie needs vary according to starting weight and activity level. This calculator is great and can really help you get a sense of where to start.

 

 

Caloric needs vary by individual as well...A fat 200# man is going to need a lot less calories than a muscular man of the same weight...Some can tolerate more calories while doing literally the same amount of activity as someone else of the same weight and body composition..

 

All of these things need to be considered..

 

TFY

[HermioneG]

Caloric needs vary by individual as well...A fat 200# man is going to need a lot less calories than a muscular man of the same weight...Some can tolerate more calories while doing literally the same amount of activity as someone else of the same weight and body composition..

 

All of these things need to be considered..

 

TFY

 

Absolutely!!

 

That's why the calculator I listed is so helpful- because you can factor that in, as well. I apologize if I left that out of my initial description. The website attached to that link also has many other places and information to be able to design what you need. There's a YouTube tutorial included, as well. And it also has the ability to be compatible with people who choose to do regimented diets instead of moderation.

 

I absolutely agree that values vary by individual- which is why TDEE calculators are important. Because the a general guidelines, promotes by places like WW and other things set the daily intake for women ( around 1200 calories and sometimes below) on a BMR that is not accurate and can be harmful and actually stop weight loss because the body slows down.

 

I am actually a believer in eating pretty big. I am 5'8", 135 pounds, and exercise hard. With my particulars in place, I can eat about 23-2700 calories a day easily and maintain. I have friends who are composed differently than I am and have different activity levels, and their calories vary from mine.

 

So I'm a calculator pimp. I think they are invaluable tools.

Edited September 4, 2014 by HermioneG

[herself]

Also, protein is your friend.

 

My meals typically are very basic.

 

A meat, a vegetable, and a small amount of grains.

 

Like a rice bowl with chicken and broccoli in it, or a steak with green beans and potatoes.

 

Lots of proteins, a little bit of carbs.

 

I typically am not interested in fruits. Bananas at breakfast sometimes.

 

Love this advice thank you!