d0nnivain Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Fidelity is not a function of attractiveness. All sorts of people cheat for all sorts of reasons. Whether somebody has more chance or not to cheat also doesn't change whether they will. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
potsticker Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 There was actually a study done that proved that insecure men are the ones most likely to cheat. Who are the most insecure men? The ugly ones, not so great career, not as appealing as a "hot" guy. I dated some not so great looking men thinking hey why not give them a chance. Big mistake, they were ugly on the outside and inside the worst men I've ever dated. The most gorgeous guy I know has girls begging to get with him and he has such high morals he would never cheat on his girl. So I don't buy into the hot guy has it too easy so he will cheat theory. It's the insecure man you gotta watch. well, then there are the recently good looking ones whose bloated egos sometimes makes them confuse fantasy and reality I don't think attractiveness is a factor in whether a guy would cheat.... but I think a history of a guy's attractiveness through his life along with the way he handled himself during those times would be the key to knowing whether he'll cheat or not. Link to post Share on other sites
OwMyEyeball Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Fidelity is not a function of attractiveness. All sorts of people cheat for all sorts of reasons. Whether somebody has more chance or not to cheat also doesn't change whether they will. This Integrity is independent of looks. No correlation. The relevance of attractiveness is how it scales with someone's willingness to overlook glaring faults. The better looking he is, the more likely she is to rationalize or ignore red flags. Same goes for men's assessment of women. Maturity and experience correct for this bias as we get older. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Fidelity is not a function of attractiveness. All sorts of people cheat for all sorts of reasons. Whether somebody has more chance or not to cheat also doesn't change whether they will. My assumption is that one is more likely to slip up if they are constantly given chances to do so. It's easy to say no to a few women who are interested. Though I believe it will be more difficult to say no if one is constantly being propositioned. The real danger is after a fight or something when one is having doubts about the relationship or just feeling mad at his girlfriend. Both normal and very attractive men may cheat in that situation, but only the very attractive man will have the actual opportunity and may do something he regrets. I also feel that a more attractive man will be less willing to stick things out and try to make the relationship work if there is problems. A hot guy can jump ship right away and go with a new girl. The less attractive guy knows that it could be a long time till he can find another girlfriend so he will try to fix things in the relationship. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
d0nnivain Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I realize that is the perception: Somebody with more options has more opportunities. However, many times people who get hit on all the time come to resent it & don't want what comes so easily because there is no quality to it. They understand that the relationship they do have is based on more than superficial looks & is therefore worth holding on to. Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 My assumption is that one is more likely to slip up if they are constantly given chances to do so. It's easy to say no to a few women who are interested. Though I believe it will be more difficult to say no if one is constantly being propositioned. The real danger is after a fight or something when one is having doubts about the relationship or just feeling mad at his girlfriend. Both normal and very attractive men may cheat in that situation, but only the very attractive man will have the actual opportunity and may do something he regrets. I also feel that a more attractive man will be less willing to stick things out and try to make the relationship work if there is problems. A hot guy can jump ship right away and go with a new girl. The less attractive guy knows that it could be a long time till he can find another girlfriend so he will try to fix things in the relationship. Most women won't want to believe this, and although its not true in all cases, it IS in a LOT of cases...They talk about character...etc.. Think about this for a minute.... We all know that Bill Clinton isnt a dumb person..regardless of political affiliation..What does he do? gets head from a fat and average looking lowly intern....in his friggin office... Same for David Petraues...Here is a guy that HAD to be of the highest character-otherwise he wouldnt have gotten a sniff of the job he had...And what did he do? Point is that these are guys that go through unbelievable vetting processes to determine credibility and character, and would get dropped on their head the minute anything remotely stunk of anything... So now the average Joe that has "handed on a silver plate" opportunities at every street corner is just going to immediately be a choir boy? Some are....some arent... This is not to justify anything...Its wrong on any level......But if you look at a random sampling.....The ones that are attractive and cheat are probably going to comprise the peak of the bell curve.. TFY Link to post Share on other sites
Author hotpotato Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Most women won't want to believe this, and although its not true in all cases, it IS in a LOT of cases...They talk about character...etc.. Think about this for a minute.... We all know that Bill Clinton isnt a dumb person..regardless of political affiliation..What does he do? gets head from a fat and average looking lowly intern....in his friggin office... Same for David Petraues...Here is a guy that HAD to be of the highest character-otherwise he wouldnt have gotten a sniff of the job he had...And what did he do? Point is that these are guys that go through unbelievable vetting processes to determine credibility and character, and would get dropped on their head the minute anything remotely stunk of anything... So now the average Joe that has "handed on a silver plate" opportunities at every street corner is just going to immediately be a choir boy? Some are....some arent... This is not to justify anything...Its wrong on any level......But if you look at a random sampling.....The ones that are attractive and cheat are probably going to comprise the peak of the bell curve.. TFY I personally believe that attractive men cheat, as do unattractive men. Thats funny to say, because average joe does have the opportunity to cheat at many street corners! Lol Link to post Share on other sites
Author hotpotato Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 My assumption is that one is more likely to slip up if they are constantly given chances to do so. It's easy to say no to a few women who are interested. Though I believe it will be more difficult to say no if one is constantly being propositioned. The real danger is after a fight or something when one is having doubts about the relationship or just feeling mad at his girlfriend. Both normal and very attractive men may cheat in that situation, but only the very attractive man will have the actual opportunity and may do something he regrets. I also feel that a more attractive man will be less willing to stick things out and try to make the relationship work if there is problems. A hot guy can jump ship right away and go with a new girl. The less attractive guy knows that it could be a long time till he can find another girlfriend so he will try to fix things in the relationship. Umm...Plenty of normal and even unattractive men cheat. Here we go again, trying to paint unattractive men as faithful and not having options Link to post Share on other sites
Revolver Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 "It's easy to say you wouldn't cheat if no one is actively trying to f*** you"-Chris Rock 3 Link to post Share on other sites
KaliLove Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 A-holes come in all shapes and sizes. Some hot guys cheat, some ugly guys cheat. I personally don't care if my boyfriend is hot or not..but I sure do care if he cheats on me. Link to post Share on other sites
Author hotpotato Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 "It's easy to say you wouldn't cheat if no one is actively trying to f*** you"-Chris Rock Ok so what happens if the unattractive man suddenly gains options? Is he going to act just like an evil cheating hot dude? If so, whats the point of acting like an unattractive guy is the better option? Criticizing others for doing something theyd do in a heartbeat seems a bit hypocritical to me... Link to post Share on other sites
Author hotpotato Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 A-holes come in all shapes and sizes. Some hot guys cheat, some ugly guys cheat. I personally don't care if my boyfriend is hot or not..but I sure do care if he cheats on me. If thats true, why do you think unattractive guys try to portray themselves as being a better catch? Why act like so many relationship problems can be solved by dating less attractive men? I agree that aholes come in all shapes and sizes. Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Ok so what happens if the unattractive man suddenly gains options? Is he going to act just like an evil cheating hot dude? If so, whats the point of acting like an unattractive guy is the better option? Criticizing others for doing something theyd do in a heartbeat seems a bit hypocritical to me... Where are these options??? Heck, you have legions of guys(some tell their story on here) that wouldnt be cheating, are single, and yet cant get a cuddle or a peck on the cheek? Where are these options coming from? The Pussy Fairy? TFY 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Author hotpotato Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Does being desperate really make someone a good catch? Link to post Share on other sites
Author hotpotato Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Where are these options??? Heck, you have legions of guys(some tell their story on here) that wouldnt be cheating, are single, and yet cant get a cuddle or a peck on the cheek? Where are these options coming from? The Pussy Fairy? TFY Street corners cl backpage yahoo personals bars pof etc Any place a man can meet a woman These are options already available even to unatrractive men. Unattractive men on ls only perceive themselves not to have options So, whats with the hypocrisy? Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Street corners cl backpage yahoo personals bars pof etc Any place a man can meet a woman These are options already available even to unatrractive men. Unattractive men on ls only perceive themselves not to have options So, whats with the hypocrisy? Only a fraction of guys will go that dirtbag route you are talking about...Put them at the bottom of the bell curve.. By pointing out fringe scenarios??, honestly I dont really know what the direction of the thread is??? TFY 1 Link to post Share on other sites
KaliLove Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 If thats true, why do you think unattractive guys try to portray themselves as being a better catch? Why act like so many relationship problems can be solved by dating less attractive men? I agree that aholes come in all shapes and sizes. Low self esteem. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Imajerk17 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Where are these options??? Heck, you have legions of guys(some tell their story on here) that wouldnt be cheating, are single, and yet cant get a cuddle or a peck on the cheek? Where are these options coming from? The Pussy Fairy? TFY I have no idea where you are going with this. What are you advocating. A Pity Party for unattractive dudes? Doesn't LS already have enough of that already? What about WOMEN who weren't blessed with looks. At least it is much easier for a guy to overcome being homely or whatever by developing his personality or charisma. I struggled when I was young but I pulled myself up by my bootstraps and got options. Others can do, and have done, the same. Guys can get women if they would only stop whining. Edited September 12, 2014 by Imajerk17 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 On ls I frequently see posts putting down good looking men. Usually, its something like, "Alpha males want to spread their seed" or "Good looking men will cheat (not-so-good looking men wont)? Is that really true? Why are good looking men presumed tp be so...awful...compared to their less attractive counterparts? Most of the criticisms of good looking men could really encompass a lot of men in general regardless of their appearance. Is it really that bad to date a hot guy? It's not about good looking men, it's about successful men, the two overlap but not exactly the same thing. Many men are successful because they know how to pull women's heartstrings, how to get under their skin and many will keep taking advantage of that rather than settle down with one. There are of course the guys who can't replicate this and become bitter. When men are successful with women I think it's true that often it will form their attitude towards them but it's not a looks thing per se. There are a number of good looking guys on this board who settled down or looking to. I can think of two the top of my head straight away who are in the UK and whose photos I've seen. They seem pretty cool and they are definitely easy on the eye but don't appear to play around. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sillyanswer Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 BINGO! What I'm trying to do is show that being unattractive in and of itself doesn't make a man morally superior to someone who is hot. Absolutely! And since all men are potentially morally bankrupt you may as well go with one who is at least hot! Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Street corners cl backpage yahoo personals bars pof etc Any place a man can meet a woman These are options already available even to unatrractive men. Unattractive men on ls only perceive themselves not to have options So, whats with the hypocrisy? I wouldn't consider most of those places options to meet men, but I suppose it would work if they're just looking for sex. If they're looking for more, then the back pages wouldn't work. I know someone who used Craigslist for dating, when she was polyamorous, and she met some good men through CL, but that was some years back, and the point wasn't to get married and have children. None of them were morally bankrupt, that I can recall. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
PJKino Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Because it's the only way for guys like me to compete with them A good looking guy who's funny nice and a good overall person I have no shot against lol Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) I have no idea where you are going with this. What are you advocating. A Pity Party for unattractive dudes? Doesn't LS already have enough of that already? What about WOMEN who weren't blessed with looks. At least it is much easier for a guy to overcome being homely or whatever by developing his personality or charisma. I struggled when I was young but I pulled myself up by my bootstraps and got options. Others can do, and have done, the same. Guys can get women if they would only stop whining. Im not going anywhere...just pointing out the flawed logic in the OP's thread.. But if you think that a guy that is good looking, successful, good physique, etc, doesnt have a multitude of options that one who doesnt have...well...I dunno what to tell you...*shrug* TFY Edited September 12, 2014 by thefooloftheyear Link to post Share on other sites
SmartDude Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Good looking guys are definitely discriminated against. I know because I am handsome and have experienced it. It is automatically assumed that I am already taken, not interested or a serial cheater. People would be surprised to find that good looking people are actually quite often lonely. Its also often harder for a good looking guy (in some situations) to have NSA sex. The women see you as relationship material too quickly. They get hurt. Its actually one of the reasons that I occasionally will see a sex worker. Because I know she either sees a lot of good looking guys or already has a BF, so it is safe in that way. Link to post Share on other sites
GemmaUK Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Oh dearie me! Whether a person is good looking/pretty isn't a testament to how they behave. That is ridiculous! The more 'generally' attractive men I have had relationships with have actually been much better men all round. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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