Supernatural Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I'm a fit guy - athletic, toned muscles, healthy diet, can run around for hours, great skin, will age very well. I want my woman to be able to keep up with that. Long term relationships are giant investments and I always want to be attracted in many senses so I can give her what she wants. I want my girl to look good for the very many hopeful years to come. It's really sexy when a woman really cares about herself- physically, mentally, spiritually. And where she is going in life. In a relationship or when dating someone for me, one of the most important things is that we have an active lifestyle. And generally speaking... The fit woman will give me that. One of the best relationships I had was with an older woman. I was 21 she was 32. Every morning in the summer we would walk around the seawall at 6am (10k) and talk/bond while being active. From what I have noticed, women who are toned/active/fit generally have a healthier outlook on life and are much more playful. I think people are attracted to healthy. And chubby/heavier doesn't look healthy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ruby Slippers Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 1) Was he insecure? I don't know. If he was, he put up a good front. I perceived him as more overly secure and confident than he should be. He had strong convictions and it was hard to convince him he was ever wrong. 2) Did he treat you like you weren't good enough sometimes or felt that way, something in yourself told you that he wasn't being completely honest? He was critical in plenty of ways - not just with me but with everybody, probably himself most of all. But I never doubted his attraction to my body. He never criticized me there, and quite the contrary - he seemed pretty fixated on it, went nuts when I wore lingerie, asked me to do a strip tease for him and then just turned into an animal. He devoted most of his attention through kissing, biting, and squeezing to my softer parts. I felt sexier and more secure about my body with him than I have in a long time, because he would just GRAB the softer parts with a little more fat and love them up. do these men you know spank the monkey to overweight and average women? do they in any other way represent this preference? When I tried to gauge what he found attractive in body type, every woman he pointed out is what you'd call a little chubby - very curvy usually with a big fat ass His most common complaint about physique was: "She's too skinny." He told me that the only porn he liked was traditional sex with a curvy or slightly chubby girl. 3) How many really fit women does this guy even have experience with? has he even had sex with one before? What do his ex's look like? We never showed each other pictures of our exes, but he told me he always went for curvier girls, and I was more trim and fit than anyone he'd been with. As I mentioned, he always seemed to be subtly trying to fatten me up, and I let myself relax with my healthy eating a little, and put on about 10 pounds while we were together. He obviously loved it, responded very well to that in every way. Then he was teasing me saying he wanted me to make my ass bigger. I said I'm not putting on more fat, and you can't target like that, anyway, but I would consider doing more squats to enhance the bubble butt effect - if he would start doing push-ups for me Link to post Share on other sites
Imported Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I'm fit. I train 5xweek. I like guys who work out. If the guys dont exercise at all or dont have a fit body (toned muscles), i'm just not physically interested in. But this is just my personal preference thought ;-) I'm fit. I train 5xweek if not more depending on work. I like women that are fit, toned or slender. You don't have to work out, but I am not really into chub. I might mess around with a girl that had some "chub"...depending, but for the most part...no. Whether you stay "in-shape" through working out, diet or diet and exercise is of no consequence...just don't be fat. "Chubby" can be the same as fat and usually is. I quoted soyou to show that you actually have an easier time than guys. We actually need to be toned and not just slender. Also, don't workout so much that you are more man than woman. Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Different guys have different preferences. You will never get an absolute answer to this question. Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I don't think fit guys only just like fit girls, but a lot of them want a woman who's in some sort of shape. They don't have to look like a fitness model or anything, but have to at least take care of themselves a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
irc333 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Yeah, men don't tend to really care if a woman is in shape or not, as long as she's not overweight. I know some women that attract men that were attracted to hot women. I know this one woman that was a head turner that hadn't seen a gym in years. However, if a man is "soft", he may not attract as much women the same way the other way around. Most men don't need a woman to be fit in order to be attractive...while the other way around, it may be a preference for most women. Virtually every girl I've dated has been significantly less toned and fitness oriented than myself. Although some have got more into it after spending more time with me. The main requirement for most guys who are into fitness isn't that you're perfectly toned, but that you take care of yourself and do SOME exercise at least. Link to post Share on other sites
PinkCarnations Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I don't think guys care if you're a gym rat like them as long as you're not overweight. I don't consider myself super fit (I was never an athlete) but I still always go for guys who are buff. And usually they show interest back. Also, I'm your height, and I consider 115-120 to be on the heavier scale.. Unless you have a lot of muscles? I would suggest losing 5-10lbs to get rid of the chub so you can feel more confident before approaching this guy. Link to post Share on other sites
Kid_Charlemange Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 There seems to be a lot of balance in fit couples. I suspect it's partly about the attraction, but also about the desire to do things together. I probably work out more than most guys my age (six times a week, 90 minutes per), but it's for weight loss, not being a gym rat. So I don't have any first hand experience. At my age, most of my friends are married. I will say this, one of them got into triathalons a few years ago, and he's in incredible shape, while his wife continues to get chunkier every year. I have a real worry about that relationship because of the "out of balance" thing. Link to post Share on other sites
Mirages Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 We (me) want someone we can predict will remain reasonable thru life. A moderate exercising, healthy eating, and emotionally stable woman has a high chance in all areas thru the years. My ex wife was 40lbs over when we met, it was eh, ok, I respected that. After a few years she was beached in bed, refusing to work or get up, weighing 100lbs over. All sorts of mental illness came too, and dangerous behaviors. Just one datapoint, but health (broader term than fitness) is so powerful a metric. Conversely I would be less interested in a woman who spent over 1 hr a day training, if there is some OCD or histrionic type of thing going on. Link to post Share on other sites
Kid_Charlemange Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Yeah, men don't tend to really care if a woman is in shape or not, as long as she's not overweight. I know some women that attract men that were attracted to hot women. I know this one woman that was a head turner that hadn't seen a gym in years. Yep. That's one of the downsides about being a dude. We're expected to have low body fat and muscles, while a thin but out-of-shape woman can be considered extremely attractive. A thin guy is "thin," but "skinny," which can also be called "nerdy." (which quickly becomes "lonely") Link to post Share on other sites
gaius Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 If his desire to be fit and body build comes from insecurity he might only want a woman that he can parade around as a status symbol. But that's not always the case. Most guys who are comfortable with themselves will go after whoever they have the most intriguing dynamic with. Link to post Share on other sites
GorillaTheater Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Active people tend to attract and be attracted to other active people. It's a lifestyle compatibility as much as it is aesthetics. And "active" generally equals "fit", at least to a certain degree. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
isisisweeping Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Conversely I would be less interested in a woman who spent over 1 hr a day training, if there is some OCD or histrionic type of thing going on. Ouch. It's goals, not mental instability! Link to post Share on other sites
Kid_Charlemange Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Does this mean guys love muscular women who look almost like men with veins and muscles popping out everywhere? Most don't. I don't. In fact, super-fit (minus the popping muscles) isn't a big turn on for me. When I was doing OLD, when the lady's profile pic was from a marathon or a mountain climb, I'd usually skip past. Link to post Share on other sites
smackie9 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I dated a body builder....never again! I worked with them too.....hated it! I would just prefer a guy that is active physically, and socially. No need for a buffy boy. I have dated short fat skinny tall attractive and unattractive. The key thing I look for is confidence and interest compatibility. Looking healthy/presentable means you have your s hit together IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Being an 'in-shape' woman, I'd say different types of guys seem to find me attractive, their own physique doesn't seem to come into it. I think a lot of guys in the gym would be happier with a more traditionally curvy girl. Some guys that I thought liked softer looking girls, seem to like me. No rhyme or reason :: shrug :: No need to worry. Keep yourself reasonably healthy and you will be fine. Just make sure you are comfortable in your own skin, confidence shows. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
irc333 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Yep. That's one of the downsides about being a dude. We're expected to have low body fat and muscles, while a thin but out-of-shape woman can be considered extremely attractive. A thin guy is "thin," but "skinny," which can also be called "nerdy." (which quickly becomes "lonely") Right there's this one woman that lives out here in the boonies and is on POF. She's has a rather average face and she kind of had curves. But definitely nothing to write home about. She was demanding the guy she dates must be athletic and in shape even though she's a waif. Link to post Share on other sites
MrNate 2.0 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Like usually attracts like. A pretty fit dude is usually going to prefer a pretty fit chick with a nice tight ass over a regular one. And why shouldn't he? He deserves to be picky in that regard. Of course there's exceptions, but that's not something I'd bank on. If you want the buff dudes, get active yourself. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
smackie9 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Funny I work with two fit attractive guys and their GFs are large girls, one is pretty heavy, so opposites can attract. Link to post Share on other sites
Ninjainpajamas Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I don't know. If he was, he put up a good front. I perceived him as more overly secure and confident than he should be. He had strong convictions and it was hard to convince him he was ever wrong. He was critical in plenty of ways - not just with me but with everybody, probably himself most of all. But I never doubted his attraction to my body. He never criticized me there, and quite the contrary - he seemed pretty fixated on it, went nuts when I wore lingerie, asked me to do a strip tease for him and then just turned into an animal. He devoted most of his attention through kissing, biting, and squeezing to my softer parts. I felt sexier and more secure about my body with him than I have in a long time, because he would just GRAB the softer parts with a little more fat and love them up. When I tried to gauge what he found attractive in body type, every woman he pointed out is what you'd call a little chubby - very curvy usually with a big fat ass His most common complaint about physique was: "She's too skinny." He told me that the only porn he liked was traditional sex with a curvy or slightly chubby girl. We never showed each other pictures of our exes, but he told me he always went for curvier girls, and I was more trim and fit than anyone he'd been with. As I mentioned, he always seemed to be subtly trying to fatten me up, and I let myself relax with my healthy eating a little, and put on about 10 pounds while we were together. He obviously loved it, responded very well to that in every way. Then he was teasing me saying he wanted me to make my ass bigger. I said I'm not putting on more fat, and you can't target like that, anyway, but I would consider doing more squats to enhance the bubble butt effect - if he would start doing push-ups for me I'm not able to type a full out reply to this, but he pretty much fits the profile that I'm trying to describe....chances are although this guy "prefers" women who are more "curvy" he also almost guaranteed lacking in confidence and his desires have been "adjusted" to who he feels comfortable dating and having relationships with...he needs to feel in control, without a high chance of failure, he needs to "succeed" in his mind that he feels secure within that relationship dynamic...even if you left him, so my conclusion is that this guy simply felt overall you were below his league...therefore he did not treat you like you were irreplaceable, because even if a guy isn't necessarily "preferring" a more fit girl, it's still a status symbol...it doesn't reflect his success with women if he's not with a nice pretty, skinny girl, if he's got an average/cute curvy girl on his arm...other men will not think highly of him, that's why successful men have a typical trophy type on their arm, so it's not just about attraction...in practice men do not need much more than a vagina and some breasts to have sex with a woman, regardless of preferences. It's like when you see this really hot person, at work or wherever..you always assume and imagine them being with a person like X...you assume that for a reason, but how often do they? there's an element at play there that people don't recognize. "I don't. In fact, super-fit (minus the popping muscles) isn't a big turn on for me. When I was doing OLD, when the lady's profile pic was from a marathon or a mountain climb, I'd usually skip past." Most guys don't but most women aren't that way. But women have a misconception of what is "curvy" and a little extra meat on them, because they feel insecure about their own bodies and these men date them. But you wouldn't necessarily pass on a fit or in-shape women, and you wouldn't turn down the woman with a flat stomach and big booty and breast. The reality is these women aren't necessarily pursuing you anyway, because if they did, you would date them outside of your initial "preference". It's irrelevant what a man's preference is in practice, when push comes to shove. "Funny I work with two fit attractive guys and their GFs are large girls, one is pretty heavy, so opposites can attract." Exactly what I am talking about...these fit guys aren't with large girls out of a preference, but out of lack of confidence. Very few men are attracted to "fat" but most men deal with it...it's not because they like it, it's not because they necessarily prefer it, they just don't mind it...men like vagina and breast, hips, booty, those elements are always in place....so that's already 50 percent of the battle. The rest can be largely irrelevant but I can assure you that you put those girls next to hot yoga pants girl who is not "too skinny" and the large girls become invisible to the majority of men...most men don't watch large women in porn, side by side you really recognize the difference. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
PJKino Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Contrary to popular belief I think men are a lot more lenient then women these days All a women has to be for an attractive frame these days is not obese having tits is a huge advantage as well Link to post Share on other sites
smackie9 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I'm not able to type a full out reply to this, but he pretty much fits the profile that I'm trying to describe....chances are although this guy "prefers" women who are more "curvy" he also almost guaranteed lacking in confidence and his desires have been "adjusted" to who he feels comfortable dating and having relationships with...he needs to feel in control, without a high chance of failure, he needs to "succeed" in his mind that he feels secure within that relationship dynamic...even if you left him, so my conclusion is that this guy simply felt overall you were below his league...therefore he did not treat you like you were irreplaceable, because even if a guy isn't necessarily "preferring" a more fit girl, it's still a status symbol...it doesn't reflect his success with women if he's not with a nice pretty, skinny girl, if he's got an average/cute curvy girl on his arm...other men will not think highly of him, that's why successful men have a typical trophy type on their arm, so it's not just about attraction...in practice men do not need much more than a vagina and some breasts to have sex with a woman, regardless of preferences. It's like when you see this really hot person, at work or wherever..you always assume and imagine them being with a person like X...you assume that for a reason, but how often do they? there's an element at play there that people don't recognize. "I don't. In fact, super-fit (minus the popping muscles) isn't a big turn on for me. When I was doing OLD, when the lady's profile pic was from a marathon or a mountain climb, I'd usually skip past." Most guys don't but most women aren't that way. But women have a misconception of what is "curvy" and a little extra meat on them, because they feel insecure about their own bodies and these men date them. But you wouldn't necessarily pass on a fit or in-shape women, and you wouldn't turn down the woman with a flat stomach and big booty and breast. The reality is these women aren't necessarily pursuing you anyway, because if they did, you would date them outside of your initial "preference". It's irrelevant what a man's preference is in practice, when push comes to shove. "Funny I work with two fit attractive guys and their GFs are large girls, one is pretty heavy, so opposites can attract." Exactly what I am talking about...these fit guys aren't with large girls out of a preference, but out of lack of confidence. Very few men are attracted to "fat" but most men deal with it...it's not because they like it, it's not because they necessarily prefer it, they just don't mind it...men like vagina and breast, hips, booty, those elements are always in place....so that's already 50 percent of the battle. The rest can be largely irrelevant but I can assure you that you put those girls next to hot yoga pants girl who is not "too skinny" and the large girls become invisible to the majority of men...most men don't watch large women in porn, side by side you really recognize the difference. Not! One of them admitted he has always been attracted to unattractive girls. Neither one of them have any problem attracting women, they still get plenty of attention. And they both had many conquests in their youth. I wouldn't call that lack of confidence. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Not! One of them admitted he has always been attracted to unattractive girls. Neither one of them have any problem attracting women, they still get plenty of attention. And they both had many conquests in their youth. I wouldn't call that lack of confidence. I think a lot of guys have a clear idea of what their 'league' is (ie what they can attract) by their early 20s. Even if they get fitter, have more money, etc their confidence won't necessarily grow with their looks or status. You wouldn't have something like this admitted by most guys though unless you were really close or if they landed someone hot. For him to say he is attracted to unattractive (his words) means a lack of confidence, most definitely. How many times he got laid is irrelevant. That's always about quantity. Maybe even reinforces what he thinks he can get since he only goes for a certain kind. Link to post Share on other sites
lamaga Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Personally, I don't really like working out and I don't do it much, but I go running every now and then -- my boyfriend, however, goes to the gym very often, a few times a week, and goes running a lot as well, and generally is very much into sports, mostly sports that I can't stand. He's very muscular and I am pretty old-school-feminine, kinda skinny, but I can't complain, I do have nice curves, and I flaunt them. I am quite happy he is never pushing me to do more than I actually do, and he loves my body, says actually it's the sexiest body he has ever seen. If you love someone, you don't care how often they go to the gym, all that matters is that they take care of themselves and love themselves for who they are - and your significant other will love you too. Link to post Share on other sites
Kid_Charlemange Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 But you wouldn't necessarily pass on a fit or in-shape women, and you wouldn't turn down the woman with a flat stomach and big booty and breast. The reality is these women aren't necessarily pursuing you anyway, because if they did, you would date them outside of your initial "preference". It's irrelevant what a man's preference is in practice, when push comes to shove. Well, sort of. If I see (rather, saw) a super-fit woman on OLD, I'm not going to message her because I'm going to assume that she's looking for the same thing. While I work out six days a week, I'm not hunky. Not by a long shot. So it's just not worth the effort to reach out. Same thing with a ridiculously attractive woman, fit or not. She's going to get approached by a thousand guys, and mathematically speaking 95% of them are going to be better looking than I am. So it's just not worth the effort. But, that's OLD, which has that artificial catalog shopping metaphor. IRL, if a fit woman, or one that you describe, showed any interest, absolutely I'd see where it went. But as you say, they are not "pursuing me" anyway, so it's a moot point. My last LTR was with a very attractive woman, who was also my "type" (long legs, small frame, curly hair, glasses, green or blue eyes). So it was double combo for me. The fact that she was into me at all was a damn miracle, and that had to do with some factors that are just too boring to get into. Suffice it to say, I was out of my league (way out of my league!) for a couple of years, which gave me a false sense of confidence. That ended badly, and since then I've had to learn to return to my own league again. Which took a while, and was an ego-bruiser. But I now realize my ex was a one-time, perfect storm of situations, and that's OK. My "type" and preferences really aren't factors any more. Link to post Share on other sites
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