Tayken Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 You don't know me so please don't speak for me. And what does her being younger have anything to do with what we're talking about? Good point. As to the lady in the link, if she can run a 5k, hike, ride a bicycle all without giving me a ear ache, the rest is irrelevant. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
irc333 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Define "Obese" if we're talking Jabba the Hutt physique (similar to a blob), no. If she's a nice, curvy, hourglass figure (filled out in the right places) then if that's still considered obese, then yes. It doesn't take much for me to be physically attracted. Let's be honest here, fellas. Would you date an obese woman...or an overweight woman for that matter? Every single one of my girlfriends was overweight, as well as one night stands. I have no problems with bigger women, if they take care of themselves, show a little spirit and don't act like they are the ugliest creatures of earth Newsflash women, you're just as beautiful, but you have to believe it. Anyway, fellas...would you? Honest discussions, even if it may make you look like an ***hole. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I think there is a difference between being thick/chunky/heavy/overweight/fat and being clinically obese/morbidly obese. That's a good point, which I neglected in my first response. Here's what Wikipedia suggests: "In Western countries, people are considered obese when their body mass index (BMI),[3] a measurement obtained by dividing a person's weight by the square of the person's height, exceeds 30 kg/m2, with the range 25-30 kg/m2 defined as overweight" Extrapolating, 82kg/2.56= 32.03, so my exW, at her median weight during our M, just tipped into their obese category from the overweight category. Myself, right now, at 102/3.28=31.08, would be just about the same. I was probably 5kg lighter during our M, so still overweight. I hate myself for admitting to this but unfortunately I wouldn't date anyone whose weight (whatever the number) got in the way of them being able to get out and do things or inhibits them from getting involved in life and living it to the fullest. I can't recall any major inhibitions, though neither of us did rock climbing or any extreme sports. Mostly walking, hiking, bicycling. I was a little more active since I had an endurance cycling background, so would go off trail riding with my friends, most of whom would whip my butt up the hills but I didn't mind. Life is too short to cross things off a list we can't do rather than add things we can do together. Yep, I agree. Fortunately, we both enjoyed good health in our M and still do (from the last I spoke with exW) and pretty much explored the world together. No complaints. The one area I'm noting more though, as we (my generation) get older, is health issues in general, so can certainly see the value in keeping the old machine as well-maintened as possible. It's no guarantee of longevity but still a reasonable effort to make. At this point in life, I'm far healthier than my father ever was, and he was a wiry (perfect BMI) little guy. However, his habits, mainly some lousy eating habits and smoking, killed him in his 60's and made his last 20 years mostly sickly ones. So, no panacea in life. Using that formula as a guideline, I meet very few women in my demographic and age group, married or single, who aren't overweight. I'll see how things go where I'm moving to. Perhaps feeling more positive about the environment will get those BMI numbers down for myself as well. Like you said, life is too short! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tayken Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 ^ If you are pulling numbers like you did above, quote the source. Being that you are in Cali...I would have expected lbs from your comments. If a woman is 82kg, right off the top of my head, that puts her at 180.8lbs. That is heavy, considering I am under 160lbs and all toned at 5ft 9" Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Try 'Wikipedia obesity', which is what I stated as the source in my posting. Link to post Share on other sites
Tayken Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Last time I checked in academia circles, "wikipedia" (which can be edited by anybody), isn't reputable source of reference. Link to post Share on other sites
KaliLove Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I've never written a guy off simply for being overweight. Overweight plus bad hygiene, no thanks. Overweight plus insecure, no thanks. Generally I am an active person, and if you can't keep up then we aren't a good match. I've dated skinny guys who couldn't keep up. And chubby ones who could. Totally agree with this. I actually prefer a guy who's a little overweight..I like a squishy belly. But no, I wouldn't date a slug who didn't get off the couch no matter what size he was. I need activity in my relationship! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Tayken Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Totally agree with this. I actually prefer a guy who's a little overweight..I like a squishy belly. But no, I wouldn't date a slug who didn't get off the couch no matter what size he was. I need activity in my relationship! Just to clarify, we are NOT talking just sex here...by activity am assuming you mean bungee jumping, sky diving, running (not jogging), hiking for hours, cycling long on Sundays for hours????? I am a runner, I go hard on Sundays...30km plus, after doing 10km Mon - fri lunch time at work whilst everyone else is stuffing their face Link to post Share on other sites
SummerDreams Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 According to this thread, all obese women and men are single cause nobody would date them. Though I know many of them who are coupled and very happy. So this thread is not valid statistics (thank God ). Sometimes I'm thinking that if I was to have been born 500 miles further eastern I'd have much greater success in dating cause men in the eastern countries have gotten used to like chubby / overweight / obese women. I'm unlucky in that matter 2 Link to post Share on other sites
central Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 No, not as long as I am able to attract and date slender to average women with good personalities. That's my preference. If I preferred thicker, overweight women, I'd date them instead. Link to post Share on other sites
Keenly Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Obese? No. Overweight? As long as her body size was still proportionate to itself, yes. Otherwise no. Link to post Share on other sites
TheGuard13 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I married a girl who was overweight, because she wore it well (had great curves) and had many other good qualities. However, when her weight gain continued and she became insecure about it, let it affect our love life and yet still refused to do anything about it, my attraction for her faded on several levels. So probably not, unless she was an absolutely beautiful human being with confidence in herself and her body. That's rare at any weight. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
StanMusial Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 The biggest girl I ever dated was 5'9" 150lbs. We met through a group of friends and I thought she was fun and she was active in sports and whatnot. We broke up a year later but it had nothing to do with her weight. I think she did have some insecurities about her size but ultimately it was other insecurities and psycho behavior in general that ended it. I agree with the previous poster for the most part though, even thin girls can have overwhelming insecurities. At the end of the day you have to live your life, make some cash, make some friends, make a family, enjoy what life has to offer. Everybody is insecure about something at one point or another. At the end of the day you gotta TCOB. Link to post Share on other sites
OwMyEyeball Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Obese. Never Overweight? I don't even know how that is defined. Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 The biggest girl I ever dated was 5'9" 150lbs. That's not big at all. I'm 5'8 140 and people often call me tiny. One friend jokes when it's windy that I be careful not to blow away. If she was truly big, she must've been more than 150. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Cynical Tiger Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 No. Absolutely not. No gluttonous women allowed. Got the sign hanging on the front door. It makes me sick to see a woman let herself go like that, being fat. I don't mind chubby, a little extra weight but obese. . . Link to post Share on other sites
StanMusial Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 That's not big at all. I'm 5'8 140 and people often call me tiny. One friend jokes when it's windy that I be careful not to blow away. If she was truly big, she must've been more than 150. That was all I got. Based on stats alone she was the biggest girl I ever dated. It is a bad example. That girl was a college athlete. Never mind, put me down for "No". 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Natsu21 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 Personally speaking, all I've been literally able to attract in my area are obese to overweight, near-obese Caucasian women. However, in my experiences online(and meetups) it's a mix of curvy, skinny, and bigger. My favorite ONS was with a hot, blonde bartender who basically was using me to make her ex bf jealous(it worked) but hey, she looked like Taylor Swift so I think I'm a little happy with bragging. Never got a girl as physically attractive as her since. And that was back in October. Link to post Share on other sites
KaliLove Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Just to clarify, we are NOT talking just sex here...by activity am assuming you mean bungee jumping, sky diving, running (not jogging), hiking for hours, cycling long on Sundays for hours????? I am a runner, I go hard on Sundays...30km plus, after doing 10km Mon - fri lunch time at work whilst everyone else is stuffing their face Not talking about sex, but I'm not talking about sky diving either. It doesn't have to be anything extreme. It could be mini golf or a movie..I don't care. As long as we're not sitting in the house all day doing nothing. Like I said, I prefer a guy with a belly, so hardcore athletes or extreme sports enthusiasts aren't really my type. But that's just me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Not talking about sex, but I'm not talking about sky diving either. It doesn't have to be anything extreme. It could be mini golf or a movie..I don't care. As long as we're not sitting in the house all day doing nothing. Like I said, I prefer a guy with a belly, so hardcore athletes or extreme sports enthusiasts aren't really my type. But that's just me. Exactly. As long as he can keep up on a hike, go fishing and camping then we are good. If he can't keep up, well, he's gonna get left in the dust. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Michelle ma Belle Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Honestly, I'm a bit annoyed hearing a couple of men on hear harp on weights and labeling these women as obese therefore effectively taking them off the market. When it comes to women in particular and their weight or dress size, no two women look alike even if they are the same height. Breasts account for a good bit of weight if you have them, thighs and hips another bit, small boned vs big boned makes a huge difference, and on and on. Women carry more fat then men and we distribute weight very differently depending on our body shapes determined by genetics. Sitting there and judging women by the number that flashes on a scale or the dress size she's wearing is just ridiculous not to mention cruel and tells me just how superficial some men can be. Who says skinny women are healthy and/or active anyway? Or that heavier women are lazy and undisciplined? Just because a woman may be thin by societal standards doesn't necessarily mean she is healthy or even active. I've known plenty of skinny minnies who live off junk food and get seriously winded unloading their car of groceries! And the reverse for heavier women. If you're not aesthetically attracted to a woman who carries a bit of meat on her bones no matter her number, that's fine but to sit there and box up all women as "fat" or "obese" based on a dress size of weight alone is just sad. End of rant. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Zen Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Honestly, I'm a bit annoyed hearing a couple of men on hear harp on weights and labeling these women as obese therefore effectively taking them off the market. When it comes to women in particular and their weight or dress size, no two women look alike even if they are the same height. Breasts account for a good bit of weight if you have them, thighs and hips another bit, small boned vs big boned makes a huge difference, and on and on. Women carry more fat then men and we distribute weight very differently depending on our body shapes determined by genetics. Sitting there and judging women by the number that flashes on a scale or the dress size she's wearing is just ridiculous not to mention cruel and tells me just how superficial some men can be. Who says skinny women are healthy and/or active anyway? Or that heavier women are lazy and undisciplined? Just because a woman may be thin by societal standards doesn't necessarily mean she is healthy or even active. I've known plenty of skinny minnies who live off junk food and get seriously winded unloading their car of groceries! And the reverse for heavier women. If you're not aesthetically attracted to a woman who carries a bit of meat on her bones no matter her number, that's fine but to sit there and box up all women as "fat" or "obese" based on a dress size of weight alone is just sad. End of rant. Its not like women don't do the same thing to men who are short. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
isisisweeping Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 As a woman, I don't care much about weight but I want them to be physically fit and willing to do active things. Thin or large. I prefer larger frames - not necessarily fat, but thicker or broader - always - but it's not a must. So someone with some extra fat that often comes up with that sort of frame doesn't bother me. Link to post Share on other sites
isisisweeping Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Who says skinny women are healthy and/or active anyway? Or that heavier women are lazy and undisciplined? Just because a woman may be thin by societal standards doesn't necessarily mean she is healthy or even active. I've known plenty of skinny minnies who live off junk food and get seriously winded unloading their car of groceries! And the reverse for heavier women. If you're not aesthetically attracted to a woman who carries a bit of meat on her bones no matter her number, . Haha - that bothers me too! It's fine if you aren't attracted to large women. It's fine if even 5 extra pounds is too much for you... be attracted to whom you're attracted too... but don't try to justify it with things that aren't true. If it's the aesthetics that are the issue, don't try to claim it's fitness. I know larger women who are super-active (not morbidly obese, but solidly overweight to technically obese by the strict definition, say size 14 at a short height) and women who look amazing who are unfit and eat poorly. If it's what they can do that is the issue, those should be the standards not the looks, if its looks that are the issue, that's also fine, but don't try to deny what the real motivation is. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Natsu21 Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 Well, when you're giving the supply that's in demand(i.e. women) you can alter the product to fit how you please. It's the basic law of economics and works the same way in attraction. Link to post Share on other sites
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