The FCC won't allow the words God damn

[Gloria25]

Church should be a place where you can feel free to be yourself. Therefore I al all for wearing whatever you want. Church should be the one place where there is no dress code.

 

We live in a judgmental world everywhere we go throughout the week and church should feel like a safe haven to go to if it claims to be God's house. To have a dress code would mean the church is no different than the world. We have dress codes in court rooms and that's fine but I shouldn't have to feel like I am going to court when I go to church.

 

So, I gather you go to work in you pajamas?

 

You can't be serious about your response. It's not about controlling people. It's about showing respect. There's a time/place for different wardrobe...and how people dress affects how they feel about themselves too.

 

Where I work, people are allowed to come in jeans and/or casual dress Mon-Fri. Some say 'cuz we do stressful work, so the dress code should be lax'...But you know what we have? A lack of professionalism, and it reflects in their work. Also, the workplace is kept nasty. Then, we have those who - cuz there's no dress code - come in looking like they are Bozo the Clown...

 

I've worked in similar fields as the one I'm in now, and "business casual" was stressed - and you can see a difference in the attitude/conduct of the employees. Grooming reflects how you feel about yourself and the environment you are in.

 

I don't believe the Church should lax its regulations and/or interpretation of the scriptures in some desperate attempt to get followers (but we all know most churches could care less about getting people close to God, they just want followers - in other words "power" - and the money from those followers).

 

So, IMO, 'feeling free to be yourself and worship' does not mean that you lower your standards and be disrespectful in the house of God. Did you know that in some religions, even though you're allowed to worship at home, you have to wear clean and/or conservative clothing and even perform certain washing rituals? So, while no one is in your home, when you're talking to God - you are expected to show respect.

 

I'll use one more example...When I'm invited to a kid's birthday party for siblings I have, do you really, really, think I'm gonna wear skin-tight jeans and a sexy T-shirt that shows my boobs, belly ring, and tattoos to a kids' party - where there are kids, people's husbands, etc? No, I'm gonna wear a nice casual T-shirt and some jeans. You gotta be respectful in people's houses.

Edited October 11, 2014 by Gloria25

[Gloria25]

God damn is just a slang term. I have never claimed to be God's manager but there's a reason a wide universe is out there that God created with the other planets and galaxies. I would think He has better things to be concerned about in His big universe factory than someone who calls out God damn when they hit their thumb with a hammer.

 

If God isn't all that concerned about answering my prayers then why the hell would He care about the words coming out of my mouth even if I was cursing at Him in anger?

 

Most religions view God as some probation officer or military drill instructor. That's disgusting. I get more than enough human probation officers on earth. I don't need God to add insult to injury. But that's how alot of churches portray God.

 

Um, I think God is the type of being where he can keep his eye on multiple things you know...And, He can also assign angels to you to jot down all your doings...

 

Not sure which religions you are looking into, but some religions call God "Merciful, Kind, etc"...When I look at the sky and see birds flying in formation, I thank God for Him giving them the ability to do what they do. Gosh, sometimes when I pet my dogs I look and wonder how God put together such a beautiful creature with the fur for me to pet. I mean, have you ever just looked at a dog and see how they have like different fur, color, shape, etc?

 

My point being, you can look around and see God as something to fear or something to love.

 

Yes, the scriptures show that God lays out the law and even carries out some punishment to some here on earth, but He gives us his instruction not to hurt us, but to either prove if we believe in Him...and, just for our own darn good. If you remember "someone's watching you" it might deter you from doing bad things. But if there's no accountability, then what stops people from doing certain things? Yes, there's laws put into place by man, but man can't see everything that is done in the dark - and that's where fear of God comes in.

 

I'm not perfect, I can't stand when my bible-thumping friends want to lecture me; and, again, that's why I don't keep certain friends, or discuss certain things, and/or go to places of worship like I used to. But, I just try my best to not do bad things and keep close to God. Will I go to heaven, eh, I figure I might, but I'm probably gonna be in hell for a long time...lol.

Edited October 11, 2014 by Gloria25

[Gloria25]

When I kick butt (like I did today on some papers I drafted)...I say to myself "Lord I'm darn good!!!"...Is that saying the Lord's name in vain?

 

I'm just curious....

[Robert Z]

No matter what beliefs we have about the afterlife there are earthly consequences to actions. That's a self evident truth. We don't need a doctrine of hell to have consequences. The absence of hell does not mean there are no consequences.

 

Your argument assumes that justice always prevails - that the potential for negative consequences always results in negative consequences. Do you have evidence for this or is this a faith statement?

[Robert Z]

A point of contention: "God" isn't God's name. That is more a title. His name is YHWH, according to the Bible.

 

And since the ten commandments came long before Jesus, it doesn't seem that the commandment refers to his name.

 

 

If I say "god dammit!", maybe I was referring to Zeus. The word "god" can mean a lot of things.

Edited October 11, 2014 by Robert Z

[Darren2013]

Um, I think God is the type of being where he can keep his eye on multiple things you know...And, He can also assign angels to you to jot down all your doings...

 

Not sure which religions you are looking into, but some religions call God "Merciful, Kind, etc"...When I look at the sky and see birds flying in formation, I thank God for Him giving them the ability to do what they do. Gosh, sometimes when I pet my dogs I look and wonder how God put together such a beautiful creature with the fur for me to pet. I mean, have you ever just looked at a dog and see how they have like different fur, color, shape, etc?

 

My point being, you can look around and see God as something to fear or something to love.

 

Yes, the scriptures show that God lays out the law and even carries out some punishment to some here on earth, but He gives us his instruction not to hurt us, but to either prove if we believe in Him...and, just for our own darn good. If you remember "someone's watching you" it might deter you from doing bad things. But if there's no accountability, then what stops people from doing certain things? Yes, there's laws put into place by man, but man can't see everything that is done in the dark - and that's where fear of God comes in.

 

I'm not perfect, I can't stand when my bible-thumping friends want to lecture me; and, again, that's why I don't keep certain friends, or discuss certain things, and/or go to places of worship like I used to. But, I just try my best to not do bad things and keep close to God. Will I go to heaven, eh, I figure I might, but I'm probably gonna be in hell for a long time...lol.

 

 

 

Yes you will go to heaven.

 

Do I work in my pajamas? No because work and church are 2 different things. That's the whole point of going to church to get a break from the stress of the workplace and having to put on a smiling mask.

 

At work I am there to impress my boss. At church I am not.

[Darren2013]

Your argument assumes that justice always prevails - that the potential for negative consequences always results in negative consequences. Do you have evidence for this or is this a faith statement?

 

Evidence? Nowadays forensic science has improved to where it is much more difficult for people to get away with murder. It may take awhile but most murderers get caught eventually. It isn't that easy to hide evidence anymore.

 

I never said that one always will get caught when they steal or kill someone but the likelihood is very high. The likelihood is that a person will get caught and punished.

 

The United States government arrested a Nazi War Criminal after a 37 year investigation. Justice was slow but it came.

[Darren2013]

Um, I think God is the type of being where he can keep his eye on multiple things you know...And, He can also assign angels to you to jot down all your doings...

 

Not sure which religions you are looking into, but some religions call God "Merciful, Kind, etc"...When I look at the sky and see birds flying in formation, I thank God for Him giving them the ability to do what they do. Gosh, sometimes when I pet my dogs I look and wonder how God put together such a beautiful creature with the fur for me to pet. I mean, have you ever just looked at a dog and see how they have like different fur, color, shape, etc?

 

My point being, you can look around and see God as something to fear or something to love.

 

Yes, the scriptures show that God lays out the law and even carries out some punishment to some here on earth, but He gives us his instruction not to hurt us, but to either prove if we believe in Him...and, just for our own darn good. If you remember "someone's watching you" it might deter you from doing bad things. But if there's no accountability, then what stops people from doing certain things? Yes, there's laws put into place by man, but man can't see everything that is done in the dark - and that's where fear of God comes in.

 

I'm not perfect, I can't stand when my bible-thumping friends want to lecture me; and, again, that's why I don't keep certain friends, or discuss certain things, and/or go to places of worship like I used to. But, I just try my best to not do bad things and keep close to God. Will I go to heaven, eh, I figure I might, but I'm probably gonna be in hell for a long time...lol.

 

 

Of course God can keep His eye on multiple things and even multitask but that doesn't mean certain things are a highest priority for Him to be worried about. We are just a very tiny fraction as a human species in God's big universe factory. We know very little about what's going on in other parts of the universe that are occupying God's attention. With the big universe out there it is very unlikely that humans are the center of God's attention and there's probably more important things going on that we do not know about.

 

I think God has left certain things up to us to put our heads together and improve upon such as the administering of justice when crimes are committed. Romans chapter 13 seems to convey this. It is up to our human governments to come together and improve their methods in catching criminals and executing justice. God can certainly do anything but He has also delegated responsibilities to a certain degree.

Edited October 11, 2014 by Darren2013

[Robert Z]

Evidence? Nowadays forensic science has improved to where it is much more difficult for people to get away with murder. It may take awhile but most murderers get caught eventually. It isn't that easy to hide evidence anymore.

 

I never said that one always will get caught when they steal or kill someone but the likelihood is very high. The likelihood is that a person will get caught and punished.

 

The United States government arrested a Nazi War Criminal after a 37 year investigation. Justice was slow but it came.

 

 

You seem to be missing the point. Your notion of cosmic justice requires that a person always gets a caught and that isn't what happens. There are plenty of crimes that never get solved.

[Darren2013]

You seem to be missing the point. Your notion of cosmic justice requires that a person always gets a caught and that isn't what happens. There are plenty of crimes that never get solved.

 

There are plenty of crimes that have not been solved yet. That's why I said it is up to us and our human governments to put our heads together and find ways to improve on solving crime. God gave us brains but we only use 2% of our brain power at best. We have the potential to do far better than what we are doing now. We have done better today than we have done 50 years ago in solving crimes. There has been progress in that. But it is up to us to figure out ways to improve on that so that more crimes get solved.

 

A good criminal investigator has it in their mindset that come hell or high water and no matter how long it takes they will find the perpitraitors. First they have to really believe that before they can attain to their goal.

 

Come back to me 50 years from now and I am willing to bet you that the percentage of crimes that have not been solved yet will be significantly less than they are today.

[Darren2013]

Also just the fact that a murderer or rapist will have to constantly look over their shoulder the rest of their life and worry night and day about getting caught is a punishment in itself. Just the fact that they would have to worry about their risk of being caught and the fear that comes from knowing they are wanted and under investigation is a form of punishment especially when there's no statue of limitations on these types of crimes. It doesn't matter if they killed someone 100 years ago. They are still at risk of getting caught and punished.

[Robert Z]

There are plenty of crimes that have not been solved yet. That's why I said it is up to us and our human governments to put our heads together and find ways to improve on solving crime.

 

You are arguing in circles. Your original argument assumes that there is always justice, and now you say there isn't but maybe someday there could be.

[Darren2013]

You are arguing in circles. Your original argument assumes that there is always justice, and now you say there isn't but maybe someday there could be.

 

The whole point is to demonstrate why an eternal hell is not a necessary way to administer justice. If anything endless punishment for 100 years worth of crimes is not justice. It is more than an eye for an eye. Endless punishment serves no purpose for anyone. Not God and not the victims. It becomes sadistic to think someone should be tortured for 10 billion years and beyond for just 100 years of crimes.

 

There isn't always justice right away. It is up to us to find ways to speed that process up. It is on us not on God if we want to see improvement in the justice system.

[Gloria25]

Yes you will go to heaven.

 

Awww....

 

You're too sweet...

 

Where's the emoticon where you can give a hug...

[TheFinalWord]

How do I know that? Because they edit out the words "God damn" on many of the TV networks. I think it is ridiculous that you can't say God damn on local TV or radio networks.

 

First of all what about freedom of speech? Second of all saying God damn is not taking the Lord's name in vain. It is just an expression. If people don't want to hear it they can always change the channel.

 

I think the FCC is biased in favor of the religious right. By the way I consider myself a believer in Jesus and I say God damn all the time when hitting my thumb with a hammer. Big deal!

 

Is it your goal to put the cuss jar industry out of business?

 

It took a lot of years to establish a repertoire of words that could be considered useful to the customers of the cuss jar industry. We didn't build this on our own. Someone invested in FCC, and roads, and businesses.

 

Now you want to undo that and in the process destroy jobs. Maybe you one of those left wing liberals that wants our cuss jar marketing firms to promote "green" cuss words like family values, capitalism, and Bush tax cuts.

 

How dare you go about destroying jobs. That must warrant at least 100 years in purgatory (not hell, it doesn't exist). Are you willing to do the time?

[Robert Z]

No matter what beliefs we have about the afterlife there are earthly consequences to actions. That's a self evident truth. We don't need a doctrine of hell to have consequences. The absence of hell does not mean there are no consequences.

 

The whole point is to demonstrate why an eternal hell is not a necessary way to administer justice.

 

Based on your own words, that was not your point.

 

If anything endless punishment for 100 years worth of crimes is not justice. It is more than an eye for an eye. Endless punishment serves no purpose for anyone. Not God and not the victims. It becomes sadistic to think someone should be tortured for 10 billion years and beyond for just 100 years of crimes.

 

There isn't always justice right away. It is up to us to find ways to speed that process up. It is on us not on God if we want to see improvement in the justice system.

 

So your real point is that hell doesn't exist because it would be unfair?

Edited October 11, 2014 by Robert Z