CrystalCastles Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 If they dont they can go for the skinny weakling in the girl pants or the lardass that hasnt seen his cock since Clinton was president...Im good either way... TFY Wow, harsh much? Thin guys aren't "skinny weaklings in girl pants". Ouch. A good friend of mine is very skinny, no matter how much protein he consumes or how much he works out, he just doesn't pack muscle. And "lardass"? Wow. There is a type of guy for everyone. Not every girl wants a muscular guy, and just because she prefers a thin or a large guy over you doesn't mean either of those guys deserve to be insulted. This is coming from a girl whose boyfriend has two black belts, has done competitive karate for years, hikes, rock climbs, and still can't get rid of the bit of belly fat. I personally work out a lot myself, so I can appreciate the amount of effort and dedication it takes to muscle building. And I would NEVER be bitter or rude enough to go calling someone who isn't into that a "weakling" or a "lardass". Wow. A few guys I know would be "lardasses" in your eyes, who work out and have difficulty losing weight. Maybe get to know someone before judging their body. You sound like you've been rejected. A lot. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
CrystalCastles Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I don't have a type, I like any body type (except morbidly obese). Oh hey me too! I only ever rejected one guy and that was because he was morbidly obese. But I will say that I would never actively be interested in or pursue a particularly muscular or athletic man, simply because I'd assume I would not have a chance. Why not? I've dated and been hit on by quite a few muscular guys at my gym. I did find that their musculature went to their heads though, and I found them to be arrogant and sexist. But maybe I was just unlucky. Its not actually hard to get a date with one, you needn't worry about them not giving you a chance thing, they're not as high-maintenance as the stereotype implies. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 what guys think a woman finds attractive isn't necessarily what a woman would find to be attractive. That's the truth of the matter. That's evident if you start watching who gay guys think are attractive. Of course, it depends on the amount of bulky muscle. I don't know any woman who doesn't appreciate a nice bicep or a six pack on an otherwise streamlined body, but I personally don't know any women who like the bodybuilder bodies with all the chest bulk, thick neck, huge thighs and all that. There are women who love that, but I truly believe they're in the minority. I think you also may be on to something about women drawing conclusions about, say, a body builder, because he spends so much time on getting that way. I mean, it truly is a way of life, and unless the woman is a fitness enthusiast herself, she's not going to appreciate all that work you put in because it's taking away from doing other things. And of course, women will assume you'll be critical of her diet and fitness if you are placing all that priority on bulking up. Even if a woman doesn't physically appreciate the big thick bodybuilder body, that doesn't mean she can't fall for you once she gets to know you. Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Why not? I've dated and been hit on by quite a few muscular guys at my gym. I did find that their musculature went to their heads though, and I found them to be arrogant and sexist. But maybe I was just unlucky. Its not actually hard to get a date with one, you needn't worry about them not giving you a chance thing, they're not as high-maintenance as the stereotype implies. It's not so much that I'd be concerned about arrogance or sexism, but that because they have such high standards for themselves, surely they must have just as high standards for who they date. I just don't fit that bill. Link to post Share on other sites
CrystalCastles Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 It's not so much that I'd be concerned about arrogance or sexism, but that because they have such high standards for themselves, surely they must have just as high standards for who they date. I just don't fit that bill. Do they? I'm a pretty average girl and I've found that to be the opposite. Totally not trying to shoot you down, I believe what you say, but it sounds to me like you kind of assume stuff without approaching them? Many muscular guys I know are pretty average guys without skyscraper expectations. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Do they? I'm a pretty average girl and I've found that to be the opposite. Totally not trying to shoot you down, I believe what you say, but it sounds to me like you kind of assume stuff without approaching them? Many muscular guys I know are pretty average guys without skyscraper expectations. I've only approached very average guys in the past and got rejected Everytime, approaching guys who are physically above average seems like dating suicide in comparison. Counter intuitive, Ya know? I don't currently see myself realistically meeting their standards. Maybe someday! Always a work in progress Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 In my experience, I've found that muscular dudes get quite a bit of attention depending on their demeanor - the ones who act like they're too cool for school (not necessarily a majority) usually are the ones who get ignored. And even then, they still get it in every now and then. A lot of different kinds of guys get attention if they are clocking. Link to post Share on other sites
Gloria25 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I work out, I'm toned, but try to not get "muscular" because I just don't like how some of those women start looking like dudes...I also don't do any special diet or take any weirdo stuff - cuz I don't want to grow a mustache or other weird stuff Yes, I like fit guys...it's not just the visual, but I want a guy to be able to "get physical" **channelling Oliva Newton-John** with me. But no, I've never been into muscular guys...that's a bit much for me. I just envision someone who can't stay away from the gym and/or their mirror - who also is on some weird special diet and who probably has a big ego (think of Arnold Schwarzenegger - I mean, I admire the dude's hard work and determination, but he's still a major tool). Where are you meeting these chicks? Are you into muscular chicks too? Maybe changing up where you meet women might help? Have you tried crossfit/workout groups to meet women that may be more open to a muscular guy? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Divasu Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Do you pre-judge guys for being muscular? For example thinking that they are probably narcissistic/ players/ lacking in intelligence/ aggressive? Would it make you feel insecure to go out with such a guy, maybe worrying somewhat about your own figure/diet etc? Is the appearance itself a turn off? At what point does it become too much? I don't think so. I think I tend to do draw assumptions after taking in the other person's mannerisms, thought process, viewpoints, etc. Of course if you see someone and they're crazy good looking but you haven't exchanged any words then all there is to judge by is body language. I don't think so either. I base that on past experience, whereas, I've been attracted to/dated muscular and non-muscular men. There were other things that made me "insecure" so I can't say that their physical appearance was the driving force of my own insecurities. Naturally of course, were I to encounter this gentleman on the street, I'd most likely blush, trip and fall (not sure if that is necessarily "insecurity", more like crush :laugh Ryan Guzman Well that depends... Let's just say that if he's so big/muscular to the point where he can't put his arms down, then there's a problem. Link to post Share on other sites
Author mr_dave Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Wow, this thread took off! Some very interesting reading here, thanks guys. I'll be back after work later to post again. Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Wow, harsh much? Thin guys aren't "skinny weaklings in girl pants". Ouch. A good friend of mine is very skinny, no matter how much protein he consumes or how much he works out, he just doesn't pack muscle. And "lardass"? Wow. It was a "tongue in cheek" comment....look it up.. There is a type of guy for everyone. Not every girl wants a muscular guy, and just because she prefers a thin or a large guy over you doesn't mean either of those guys deserve to be insulted. Agreed on the first part....Boo hoo on the second... This is coming from a girl whose boyfriend has two black belts, has done competitive karate for years, hikes, rock climbs, and still can't get rid of the bit of belly fat. I personally work out a lot myself, so I can appreciate the amount of effort and dedication it takes to muscle building. And I would NEVER be bitter or rude enough to go calling someone who isn't into that a "weakling" or a "lardass". Wow. A few guys I know would be "lardasses" in your eyes, who work out and have difficulty losing weight. Maybe get to know someone before judging their body. I didnt judge anyone...The comment wasnt directed at anyone in particular so it can't be judgemental... You sound like you've been rejected. A lot. No...as a matter of fact...Ive never been rejected...Thats because Ive never hit on a woman -ever, yet never once been without attention of at least one woman in pretty much my entire lifetime-and I have rejected many of them...Nice try though...I know its hard to make a characterization of someone based on one sentence so i understand why you would be confused.. Look....Im not better than you or anyone else,,,,,I didnt call your bf a weakling, a lardass, or anything else..You sound very defensive and thin skinned with your comments,...But i wont do as you do and make a blanket generalizations and statements based on a simple forum post:rolleyes:... TFY Link to post Share on other sites
TigerLilly78 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I dated a personal trainer once I now find I prefer the teddy bear type guy more dunno something about cuddlying a big guy like that works for me the guy was sweet and nice and no I dident feel put off by it fitness was just his thing.. Link to post Share on other sites
TigerLilly78 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Look....But i wont do as you do and make a blanket generalizations and statements based on a simple forum post:rolleyes:... TFY Actually isn't that what you kinda did yourself? just saying.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Actually isn't that what you kinda did yourself? just saying.. No...Because I didnt refer to anyone, then I didnt...People are so sensitive.. A blanket generalization would be something like..."all skinny guys are weaklings:" or "all fat guys are lazy lard asses".... just sayin... TFY Link to post Share on other sites
TigerLilly78 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 No...Because I didnt refer to anyone, then I didnt...People are so sensitive.. A blanket generalization would be something like..."all skinny guys are weaklings:" or "all fat guys are lazy lard asses".... just sayin... TFY Oh well least your in good enough shape to back pedal well..lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Giggle Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Guys with the body building thing going on turn me off. I like useful muscle not because a guy likes looking at himself. That being said.. My fwb body builds and I didn't think much of him by looking. It took a bit to get past that exterior. There is definitely a look that is "too cut" and anymore than just seeing the 6 pack, I wish they would soften up a little. Just not my particular flavor of hottness =o) and I would also assume that my fluffiness would not appeal to somebody working out a lot. I mentioned my lumps not picturing well to my fwb and he told me to stop, cause he thinks I'm hot. Link to post Share on other sites
acrosstheuniverse Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I don't find men with muscular physiques attractive at all, so I wouldn't really ever make the move to date one. If one came onto me and I loved his personality I'd give it a shot but it's honestly a turn off. I just like 'regular' bodies I guess, maybe a bit of bulk. I respect the effort that goes into having a body like that and I'm a gym bunny myself, I love to work out and have what most men would say is a fantastic figure. I don't mind kinda muscular as long as it's not super defined but as soon as you start getting properly bulging arms and a six-pack it's a total turn off. Link to post Share on other sites
Imported Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I've been there, I've done that. I was "too big" according to women. I still did get plenty of attention from women. I'd go to clubs and random girls would come sit on my lap or rub up on me or feel up my arms. But when I actually started dating a girl, I'd hear the same thing......"you're too big" and they weren't talking about my penis. Every girl I dated and many of the ones I got to know told me that. I listened. What I notice about big quads and big chest is...it makes you look stocky. Shorter. I decided to elongate my build as much as I could while still looking muscular. All I do now is run ( I said run, not jog), deadlifts, pull-ups, dips, push-ups...and whatever other lifts that I feel at the time. And swim a lot. I don't devote days to any body part. I don't have an arm day. I don't even do bicep curls regularly anymore. I'm just very lean with musculature that shows. 5'11" 178lbs this morning, bodyfat.....??? I don't ****ing know. But you can see my dick pointers and definition everywhere. This body shape is much better for ....everything. Including garnering female attention. Like I said, I did well before, but this is better. Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I don't find men with muscular physiques attractive at all, so I wouldn't really ever make the move to date one. If one came onto me and I loved his personality I'd give it a shot but it's honestly a turn off. I just like 'regular' bodies I guess, maybe a bit of bulk. I respect the effort that goes into having a body like that and I'm a gym bunny myself, I love to work out and have what most men would say is a fantastic figure. I don't mind kinda muscular as long as it's not super defined but as soon as you start getting properly bulging arms and a six-pack it's a total turn off. Just curious, because it doesnt seem to make any sense to me.... How would a big and/ or ripped body somehow be considered a negative-if all else was equal(the guy was everything you wanted)...??/ That would be like..."she is a great woman, but she has a great pair of natural 36DD's, a flat belly, and a 24inch waist...you know what..gimme the one with the droopy A's and the paunch, because that type of thing(the nice body) is a total turn off"....huh? I cant say that of you, but I still say most women despise competition from other women...So rather than deal with that, they settle on an average guy, because they really cant deal with the potential attention he might get from other women for his physique....I just dont see how its a turn off-unless there was something else negative.. TFY Link to post Share on other sites
Apaige Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'm a fairly muscular guy who's been single for 18 months now, without so much as a tumbleweed blowing across the barren desert that is my love life. In spite of my appearance I am very bashful, kind and extremely placid, and was wondering perhaps whether having such a physique might actually be counting against me. I would like to meet a cute girl with a similar personality to myself, but the only notable female attention I have received in my life has been from a pair of inebriated wenches in a nightclub. I get a lot of compliments (it's one of the first things they remark upon) from male colleagues at work who are surprised that I'm single, but what guys think a woman finds attractive isn't necessarily what a woman would find to be attractive. I have some questions that I would be grateful for your female perspective on.. Do you pre-judge guys for being muscular? For example thinking that they are probably narcissistic/ players/ lacking in intelligence/ aggressive? Would it make you feel insecure to go out with such a guy, maybe worrying somewhat about your own figure/diet etc? Is the appearance itself a turn off? At what point does it become too much? Thanks! I have an athletic build as well, but only being 5 ft talk and 104 pounds, what choice do I have? I can either be a meatball or stay on top of my body. Anyhow, I have always been attracted to the muscular type. My ex husband was 6 feet talk and 220 lbs of pure muscle. Again, I was attracted to his body type, however, his NEED to be at the gym was getting old quick. If we were going on vacation, I had to pick a hotel that had a great gym...he planned our days and outings around HIS gym schedule. Could only plan things as long as he went to the gym. After having kids we talked and he would go to the gym while they were either sleeping or we ( the kids and I) were out. This never happened, he would always chose the gym over us. 3 years post divorce, I would never date a gym rat again for the reasons listed above. I'm all about being healthy, but over doing it, doesn't do it for me. Btw-he was a very narcissistic person, cared more about his appearance then anything! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hotpotato Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I prefer guys with some muscle. I dont want a guy who complains that Im in better shape than him. I also dont want a guy who thinks im weird for exercising a lot. It's not so much that I'd be concerned about arrogance or sexism, but that because they have such high standards for themselves, surely they must have just as high standards for who they date. I just don't fit that bill. Not always. Bodybuilder guys date and marry all kinds of women. Link to post Share on other sites
Priv Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Wow, harsh much? Don't take offense. It is the 4th most beneficial thing for those of us into strenght sports to be able to call everyone else skinny weakasses . And no worries, we only mean it for like 30-40%. 1st. Gaining strenght 2nd. Being healthy 3rd. Gaining confidence 4th. Being able to call people skinny weakasses RAAAAAAAAAAAWWR Don't take that away from us 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gloria25 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 There's this movie I saw once called "Teddy Bear"... It was very good...heavy drama Teddy Bear (2012) - IMDb Link to post Share on other sites
GemmaUK Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I prefer men to be lean and just with their natural muscles. Big muscles have always been a turn off for me as are preggers type bellies. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
CrystalCastles Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Just curious, because it doesnt seem to make any sense to me.... How would a big and/ or ripped body somehow be considered a negative-if all else was equal(the guy was everything you wanted)...??/ That would be like..."she is a great woman, but she has a great pair of natural 36DD's, a flat belly, and a 24inch waist...you know what..gimme the one with the droopy A's and the paunch, because that type of thing(the nice body) is a total turn off"....huh? I cant say that of you, but I still say most women despise competition from other women...So rather than deal with that, they settle on an average guy, because they really cant deal with the potential attention he might get from other women for his physique....I just dont see how its a turn off-unless there was something else negative.. TFY It just is. Its a preference. Why do some women prefer tall men, and others are perfectly happy with short men? Nobody is settling. If a woman chooses a skinny guy or a fat guy over you, how on earth do you know she has settled? Maybe she prefers a bit of belly fat over muscle? Sometimes its hard to explain why you find a certain type attractive and another not. And the last paragraph? Lol! SO not true. I didn't reject those muscular men because I'm worried about the attention a muscular man will get. :rolleyes: I am just not attracted to that body type. Just because I chose a man with belly fat over all those muscular guys who were hitting on me, does not at all mean I'm "settling". In fact, I feel I would have settled with those muscular guys, actually. I have issues with your posts, including the previous ones, because I get the feeling you are trying to elevate your type over others. Some women are just not into muscular men. Like I said, there is a type for everyone. Big muscles just happens to be a turnoff for them, same as for some women, dating a guy who is short is a turnoff. You don't have to try understanding these preferences. Just pick a woman who likes your type. Don't take that away from us Haha! :laugh: 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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