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Ready2DateAgain
I got this one girls number and we were going to meet today, but on Wednesday something happened when we were talking and she got really... stand offish?

 

 

We were talking about our favorite foods and she got kind of rude out of nowhere so I called her on it. She said she was just having a bad day. Now I'm a little skeptical of.meeting her of she is the kind of person that takes their mood out on others.

 

What do you think. To go or not to go?

 

did you meet her in person or did you get the number OLD ?

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I don't think OP wants a woman to fall at his feet,he wants to be acknowledge that he is putting a effort when he types in a proper and lengthy message,he's displaying character and proving that he's not like the other men in which woman tend to describe they don't want.

Read a few more of his posts you will see what I mean this is a constant for him every time any women doesn't respond or doesn't word her profile how he thinks it should be he gets upset at her and women in general. Believe me im not making that statement on some whim. Granted it would be nice and polite if she had responded but she didn't owe him it...Thinking back ive seen him be rude to women on OLD with no other reason then he didn't care for their looks so maybe its a little bit of karma you get what you give out in this world after all..

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Ready2DateAgain
Read a few more of his posts you will see what I mean this is a constant for him every time any women doesn't respond or doesn't word her profile how he thinks it should be he gets upset at her and women in general. Believe me im not making that statement on some whim. Granted it would be nice and polite if she had responded but she didn't owe him it...Thinking back ive seen him be rude to women on OLD with no other reason then he didn't care for their looks so maybe its a little bit of karma you get what you give out in this world after all..

 

he seems to be having a rough time doing the online deal,maybe he should do what I'm doing and go out and meet woman,it's so much easier to get a date by meeting someone out and about

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he seems to be having a rough time doing the online deal,maybe he should do what I'm doing and go out and meet woman,it's so much easier to get a date by meeting someone out and about

Maybe so that dose seam to work better for some I never had much luck on actual dating sites. I met my Bf via on line gaming we were both doing something we liked to do and happened to meet. Dateing sites are harder cause your not starting off from any common ground to build on..its just two people going off of looks alone pretty much..

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organizedchaos
For the same reason you like Tinder is the same reason I would avoid it.

 

Why?

 

I met my current gf on it almost 5 months ago. We both love each other and it's an amazing relationship.

 

So, how is it bad again and have you gotten better results your way?

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True. .. they have to be attracted to what they see first. There are some that just won't bother with a bald guy, shorter guy, known some women not into men with any kind of facial hair., etc.

 

They may not express that in their profile. ...so they keep it to themselves as to not sound shallow. Of course I've seen women express height requirements audibly in their profile. ...others leave it out.

 

I just thought a profile as prolific as hers would want to read a prolific first message.

 

Funny in other posts here women complain of the first "Hey, cutie!" Emails. But then this has been known to happen. Lol

 

It's so individual. I can't predict or assume what my BF will think or do, or why he does what he does after the fact, based on anyone but him, especially in the romantic arena. Maybe I could predict how he'd drive, or react to a fire in the kitchen, by the way most people act. But people's thoughts, feelings and actions are much more individual in matters of taste and romance.

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Very good analogy. As like when coming up with strategies to get someone to respond, one cannot predict what you just mentioned.

 

It's so individual. I can't

predict or assume what my BF will think or do, or why he does what he does after the fact, based on anyone but him, especially in the romantic arena. Maybe I could predict how he'd drive, or react to a fire in the kitchen, by the way most people act. But people's thoughts, feelings and actions are much more individual in matters of taste and romance.

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OK, really honestly I have never found that the majority of men on OLD make no effort with mails.

I get my share of 'hi' etc and rude/crude or plain nasty mails yes but more often than not guys on OLD do make an effort.

 

 

If I have a lengthy profile (sometimes I do and sometimes I don't) it doesn't mean I require a lengthy mail.

To be honest most of the long long mails I've had are scammers.

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OK, really honestly I have never found that the majority of men on OLD make no effort with mails.

I get my share of 'hi' etc and rude/crude or plain nasty mails yes but more often than not guys on OLD do make an effort.

 

That's not what I keep hearing in these message boards and just from even women I know who've been on POF and other free sites. Mostly "Hi's" "Hey , cutie, wanna chat?" Hear about that than your situation, so you must be an exception.

 

To be honest most of the long long mails I've had are scammers.

 

Well, often the content of the email likely has nothing to do with dating. It's likely to do with sending them money. :laugh:

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Yeah a lengthy profile doesn't mean they expect a lengthy first message all about serious relationships!!

 

I'm a woman and I've had a few rejections from guys and i presume they are not attracted to me physically (shock horror !!!!!) or maybe dont find me interesting (again, wow! How is that possible? I'm so amazing) that is their decision and i respect it.

 

I make no effort until i find a guy that interests me. To send out 250 messages to guys, well I would consider myself desperate and go and find some hobbies.

 

Why would I waste time on guys i have no desire to get to know? I dont see how that makes me a bad person. I have friends, family and colleagues. I'm sure OP and other whiners have encountered people they have no desire to talk to.... No?

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For the same reason you like Tinder is the same reason I would avoid it.

 

Then why keep complaining about the women on whatever site you're using? Try something new maybe? At the least you'll have something new to complain about.

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I wish someone would create a spam bot that would completely over flood a woman's inbox. That way they could come back to reality since all of the messages would be meaningless.

 

Oh wait...they already are.

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Recently, I saw a woman's profile, she was very articulate in what she was looking for and even emphasized the fact she deliberately made an effort not to sound like the "typical profile." She was a new face to the site.

 

I found that to be a plus and she was looking for communication in a relationship as well, and listed things that most tend to lack in dating relationships.

 

My initial emails was more focused on that and the validity of how I view serious relationships.

 

It was a rather lengthy, well put together email, quite different than the ones I normally had written in the past. I suppose I was in the mood for it actually as I had first woke up, had my cup o' Joe and ready to explore this new face.

 

I proofread it, hit "send" and that was that.

 

Now, keep in mind, with POF they do have their "Filters" meaning that these emails sometimes do NOT get sent. They tend to filter out words like c*ck....in "cocktail" an if ANYTHING is like that in your initial email, it is never sent.

 

So I check the "Sent" area and it shows it was never delivered to the person. Okay, good thing I had it in my notepad , so I look through and took out some of the words that probably didn't make it past the filter and re-sent it.

 

"You've been blocked by this user!"

 

*Thumbs up* Greeaat! Talking about sucking the wind out of my sails. lol Next time, I'll just send a short intro paragraph. And you wonder why people get sick of online dating.

 

Ever had this happen to you?

 

I guess I don't understand the leap to use this to explain why men don't make an effort.

 

Just because someone may not respond to your efforts doesn't mean you shouldn't make an effort. The fact is: some people will not like you for whatever reason, so why stop making an effort because of this. Make it so that those who'd be interested benefit from that effort. That's how I'd approach it anyway.

 

I have a well thought out profile in OLD and I'm sure majority of the men who message me don't read it. But so what? I'm still gonna make the effort because that's who I am and I believe the men I want to date will appreciate that effort and respond in kind. Likewise, if I sent a man a thoughtful message and he didn't respond, it would be disappointing, but I'm not gonna throw the baby out with the bath water and use that to say "THIS IS WHY WOMEN DON'T MAKE AN EFFORT!" then go on to never make an effort again...don't you see how that just seems a bit impulsive and silly to do that?

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99% of the messages I write on dating sites get ignored. And of the ones that actually do reply, rarely do they ever meet up with me (only 4 have so far in over 4 years).

 

Yet, I still make an effort. Why? Probably because I'm a masochist who foolishly hopes that one day I'll meet someone who will actually tolerate me long enough to date me...

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Help me out, I'm confused. You said your message didn't go through because of the filters and then you were blocked. Were there previous messages that went through that I missed? If not It's sounding like she blocked you from tje the gate..

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Maybe try something different as others have suggested.

 

 

You complain about OLD and also Meetup Groups on here often.

 

 

Maybe try speed dating instead?

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Maybe try something different as others have suggested.

 

 

You complain about OLD and also Meetup Groups on here often.

 

 

Maybe try speed dating instead?

 

That's no good either. He's already posted complaints about women who do speed dating.

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That's no good either. He's already posted complaints about women who do speed dating.

 

 

Oh! :)

 

 

That kills that idea then...

 

 

I haven't seen any posts about speed dating from the OP as yet....

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