wtf is going on here

[Toodaloo]

Sounds to me as though these tenants need to go anyway.

 

They shouldn't be talking about your past sex life and have been very badly behaved.

 

Work on it in the new year. Tell them that you will help them out for now but you want to get new people in as you can't trust them any more after they helped a fraudster to steal from you.

[ktya]

Sounds to me as though these tenants need to go anyway.

 

They shouldn't be talking about your past sex life and have been very badly behaved.

 

Work on it in the new year. Tell them that you will help them out for now but you want to get new people in as you can't trust them any more after they helped a fraudster to steal from you.

 

Yup. I will gladly accept their notice upon rent payment time (she pays today, he pays on the first) as per the agreement or ill call the cops to evict on the spot on non payment (its different for a roomer than a lessor).

 

Ive been renting rooms for 6 years now and they all have expiry dates.

 

Having my girlfriend (now ex of course and the topic of this thread) explain to me how i participated in an orgy and had sex with a 19 year old in my bed and telling me her name was a real peice of work on the part of my male tenant.

 

Wtf.

[Toodaloo]

Well lucky you!

 

That is not the sort of thing that you go around telling peoples new girlfriends...

 

You are far better off with out this lot causing all this drama.

 

Start afresh.

[Radu]

It's actually worse than it looks.

 

The relationship landlord-tenant is one where the landlord is in fact the one in charge [similar but not as powerful as the one boss-employee].

Sure the tenant has rights, but it's the landlord's property/ass on the line if he guarantees for the property.

 

I initially wanted to say to keep the female tenant because she showed some repentance, but ... she can end up poisoning the future new tenant against the one in charge.

And when they don't respect you, you are fair game to them [unless you have someone with morals and decency ... and those ppl are rare].

 

A fresh start is better.

[ktya]

Yup.

 

If i wasnt so.deep in the glue with my landlord id invoke some unreasonable rights and have them both removed by the cops as the master lessor.

[ktya]

It's actually worse than it looks.

 

The relationship landlord-tenant is one where the landlord is in fact the one in charge [similar but not as powerful as the one boss-employee].

Sure the tenant has rights, but it's the landlord's property/ass on the line if he guarantees for the property.

 

I initially wanted to say to keep the female tenant because she showed some repentance, but ... she can end up poisoning the future new tenant against the one in charge.

And when they don't respect you, you are fair game to them [unless you have someone with morals and decency ... and those ppl are rare].

 

A fresh start is better.

 

Further to your point. Female tenant was to pay rent the 16th. She got home late and I was exhausted after this week from hell.

 

I texted her about the rent last night as she didn't come home from work at the normal time. For reasons described in this thread in great detail I'm under a lot of pressure from my landlord and have to give him some money today.

 

She could have said, I'll be home in a couple hours and I'll leave a check on the table.

 

Instead she ran round in circles about the exact day she is supposed to pay (she normally pays on the 16, but she moved in on the 17th). She said she would pay but didn't know when she would be home and wouldn't even give me a rough estimate. Said she was at the dentist at 1030pm. Ran in circles about whether or not I was going to even pay my landlord. I gave her three options, pay, I'll put your stuff outside or you can take the stuff yourself. She told me she would call the cops. I'm like are you going to pay and when because I need it today to pay my landlord tomorrow. She says go ahead kick her out then so I call the cops. As I'm on the phone with them she calls the cops, who tell both of us it's a civil matter, which is what I expected but I want to find out if they will observe me removing her to protect me as this woman has been screaming at me half the week.

 

I give her some time to come home with the money she texts me "who cares". I'm sitting in my room having a conversation with someone else about something entirely different. At 1145pm I text her back that I guess I'll get to work, ie. removing her stuff. As I'm leaving my room she yells at me that the check is on the table, which she never told or texted me, I didn't even know she was home.

 

I said why didn't you just tell me you'd be home in a couple hours and you would pay me then. She screams at me that she's 33 and doesn't need to answer to me.

 

What a waste of time and energy. As expected she gave her one months notice. Good riddance.

[Toodaloo]

Give her notice and tell her to leave... Get them both gone and get new tenants in.

 

This is just pathetic and childish behaviour.

[Radu]

The relationship with these 2 is too damaged to save it, obviously.

I hope you work as hard as you can on repairing the relationship with your landlord.

 

PS: Too many rights.

This is what happens when ppl are raised with a silver spoon and too many rights.

They know to claim their rights, or the right to have rights ... but what about responsabilities ?

 

The two are linked at the hip, if you accept rights you have to accept responsabilities too [and the other way around].

[ktya]

Give her notice and tell her to leave... Get them both gone and get new tenants in.

 

This is just pathetic and childish behaviour.

 

As I said she gave notice which I gladly accept.

 

It is pathetic and childish... one phrase and it would have been over in 5 minutes. I wasn't even a jerk about asking for the money, I just said "rent?" by text message, and I waited until the day after she normally pays.

 

The way she handled it being all coy about when she would pay and given all her sht is in boxes I'd have every reason to worry.

[ktya]

Oh this is getting to be too much to beleive.

 

I fell asleep after dinner because I finally had a quiet, empty house to myself last night. Being *really* low on money I have no coffee and I woke up stupidly early this morning.

 

So I trekked to the local 7-11 to get a cup of coffee, its only a buck for the superlarge size.

 

Guess who I see? The ex, walking out of the 7-11 at 5:45am!

 

It was dark and early and I didn't really peice it together I just noticed a girl with nice legs wearing knee high boots carrying an umbrella. As I walked past into the store I recognized her. I didn't say anything and pretended not to notice her.

 

A bunch of stuff makes sense now, its almost too much to beleive. I dont want to come across as a paranoid maniac; but this city is way too big for this to be a simple coincidence that she managed to find her next victim living less than four or five blocks away (she'd end up at a different 7-11, and she was on foot).

 

One morning last week I was awoken by what seemed to be a knocking on the door at 4:30 in the morning. I roused from my sleep and listened, sometimes my downstairs tenant has guests who show up at really odd hours so I listened to hear if the door got opened. Normally his guests phone him when they're outside and he comes up and lets them in the front door.

 

Guess who doesn't have a phone carrier. Nobody opened a door that morning. As I posted earlier in the thread she was on her phone all the time but it turns out she was just jacking my wifi using services like Kik and BBM.

 

Again, I also recall that the female's (the screamer) jewelery got stolen AFTER I had kicked the girl out. My mom's rings were gone the same day. My combat knife went missing after I had kicked her out.

 

I also recall that my two tenants were huffing and puffing all the week of 8th-12th like they were both moving out immediately, and the downstairs guy said he was leaving either the 13th or the 14th (I wrote about this earlier in the thread), and he was super agro, yelling at me ("I dont owe you anything") when I asked him if he was still moving out soon or if he was going to move out later.

 

What am I getting at here? Well my downstairs tenant's dad lives within 3 blocks of that 7-11.

 

I changed the wifi password just as a precaution.

 

I honestly think that at least this downstairs tenant and likely the both of them are still in cahoots with this woman. Unbeleivable. I think that my downstairs tenant set her up to stay with his dad while she waited for her magic money to get a place.

 

This would explain the raging antics and even the wishy washy crap going on with the female tenant's rent.

 

If she is playing them the same game she played on me, this magical money is going to be coming just one more day just two more days just Thursday, blabla ad nauseum. All the while if they are all in cahoots she's filling their head with lies which would explain all the outbursts.

 

I dont care if they leave, honestly I hope they leave and soon.

 

Just Thursday was the most rediculous thing I've ever had to live through.

 

I was nervous as hell because I was going to give my landlord the first payment after all this fiasco and he was coming over. While he was here and I was handing him the money and talking to him one of my friends came over. He was respectful as he knew what was going on and decided to wait inside.

 

After I was done me and my friend sat at the kitchen table and were talking. We were talking about how I've had such a crap year and how I got into this mess, during this time both of the tenants came home while we were having our conversation.

 

Eventually female tenant comes out of her room and starts screaming at the both of us. This might be slightly appropriate if we were talking about her behind her back, but we were actually talking about how my ex girlfriend a year ago wouldn't let me rent out the rooms and how one of my friends who had lived with me around the same time was staying here skeefing booze and food and not paying rent.

 

My friend knew what was going on and told her to shut the fk up and stop screaming. She kept screaming and started taunting him to kick her ass, something she did to me in one of her prior tirades. As this ensued the male tenant came upstairs and started shouting and said how could we have a problem with the female tenant when a girl I was seeing was loud and I had no problem with her (this was 4-5 months ago in the summer).

 

The whole time me and my friend were sitting at the table. Eventually the two tenants were screaming, standing almost lording over us. Me and my friend are big into martial arts so we werent particularly worried, a mamas boy and his surrogate mama, but it was rediculous.

 

Now in the context of everything going on I am thinking that the con artist ex has been staying at the male tenant's dad's house playing the "one more day" game on the magic money she played out on me.

 

This would make sense on the absolute fiasco getting the rent out of the female tenant on Wednesday was. She was probably up there trying to nail down whether they were moving or not because she likely wasnt about to pay rent if they were moving in a day or two as she would lose her deposit money.

 

This also makes sense from the standpoint of how quick to snap these idiots are. I know how it felt when I was being dragged day after day for the money she was going to give me while the expenses just added up. They're probably strung out and stressed out.

 

I'm guessing she's convinced them both that they're all going to move in together like one big happy family on the 1st now (last try was the 13/14th). Under the guise that she's getting this magical $25,000 line of credit of someone else's money she's probably gotten the male to convince his dad to put her up.

 

I might be wrong but my gut is usually correct about these things.

 

My main concern now at this point is WTF if the male tenant is letting her in the house while I'm at work, what's going to go missing next. I'm going to figure out how I can install a small camera or audio recorder somewhere. I think I chucked my webcams and the budget doesnt allow for going out buying new ones.

 

Its going to be a straight up comedy on the 1st; there's no way in hell this woman is going to come through for them and AFAIK his unemployment claim and lack of work means he wont even have the money to pay his rent if he wants to.

 

I might be wrong and just reading too much into all this, but the puzzle peices are adding up pretty nicely - especially with seeing her a mere blocks from my house at 5:45AM on a Saturday. The hotel I sent her to was downtown- in a completely different metro area at least 7 miles away.

[beach]

Do your tenants use drugs? What you keep describing is the behavior of the druggie world.

 

 

Why not ask then to move - and get new tenants?

 

Have you put a lock on your area of the house - so when you're gone no one can enter YOUR space?

 

And if you see her again - I hope you consider saying something to her! Have a voice - speak your truth - ask when she plans to return the stole jewelry. Consider calling the police to have her questioned about your stolen goods.

 

 

She won't stop until you take action. It will most likely be legal action that keeps her away from your space - consider filing a restraining order! Have you checked to see if she has a police record? I'd bet she does.

 

 

Your tenants are on her side - it may be useful to have them leave sooner rather than later.

 

If it's prescription drugs she's into - you wouldn't have seen "evidence" of her using. But oxy pills are processed by the body much as heroin. And from my experience this may be her issue. She sure acts like it.

 

You live in a space where no one is trusted - it's time for change. That change must come from you in order to restore a peaceful home life. Start taking charge of those changes instead of reacting to the change they toss your way.

[ktya]

You might be right on the prescription meds, although i saw no proof of that either.

 

With respect to getting rid of the tenants, i wish it were that easy. The female gave her one months notice on the 17th so that one is looked after. Honestly i think the male has no other option but to play into the con artist exes scheme, he is barely getting any hours at work making maybe $120 a week right now. If he doesnt come up with money, hes out instantly

 

Yes, it is very tough living in a place where nobody can be trusted and where im getting screamed at about being behind with my landlord seemingly every time this woman comes up.

 

I was just feeling safe after talking to my landlord face to face and getting the locks changed. Now that ive seen her at such an oddball time a mere few blocks away on foot, im very concerned that she is in cahoots with at least one of my tenants if not both, given the way they are acting.

 

If they were in cahoots with her and she wasnt staying but blocks away i wouldnt be too worried. But if she can just stroll down here on a moments notice when im gone that worries me.

 

She must be staying with the dad or at least someone else. If she was on transit theres no reason for her to get off the train, walk 6 blocks uphill in the rain to get coffee at a convenience store when there are convenience stores and coffee shops all around one station away. And she was definitely on foot. I tried to spot her on my way out of the store but she disappeared.

[sillyanswer]

Guess who I see? The ex, walking out of the 7-11 at 5:45am!

 

It was dark and early and I didn't really peice it together I just noticed a girl with nice legs wearing knee high boots carrying an umbrella. As I walked past into the store I recognized her. I didn't say anything and pretended not to notice her.

 

Did you report this sighting to the police?

[ktya]

Did you report this sighting to the police?

 

Yes. As at 8am along with access to the OKC profile she found me on via their legal department.

[beach]

Maybe when they find her they will find the stolen jewelry.

 

Or maybe she traded it for a few pills.

[ktya]

Maybe when they find her they will find the stolen jewelry.

 

Or maybe she traded it for a few pills.

 

Probably.

 

Im losing it here. I just want this all to end.

[spiderowl]

I'm sure you must have done this, but have you told the tenants, in a calm and measured way, what this woman has done? If you can keep your cool and just convey (limited) facts, then tell them if they stay in touch with her they could become subject to the same treatment from her, then just leave them to mull it over. I realise this may not make any difference whatsoever, but you are sowing a seed of doubt. Doing it calmly without any other agenda might make them think.

 

It does sound a horribly complicated situation. I don't know how you can get proof of her coming into the house when you are not there, other than by using a camera, but if that is spotted it will just feed your tenants' paranoia. The whole thing has got so confusing and weird that trust has gone out of the window and you must all be horrible confused.

 

At least you are reporting your suspicions. The police may not be able to do anything or be interested in doing anything, but if they take note that could come in useful later.

 

It looks like you'll have to get rid of the tenants now that trust has broken down. If you can't trust them to keep this woman out of the house, there is no way past that. Could you leave a laptop somewhere with a video stream to you? They wouldn't know. I know that it is a big risk as it could get stolen or messed with but up until it is touched, you should have the video.

[BetrayedH]

Yes. As at 8am along with access to the OKC profile she found me on via their legal department.

 

How about a restraining order that officially makes it illegal for her to enter your residence?

[TigerLilly78]

Wow this is still going on? didn't you get a restraining order op? what dose it matter what 7-11 the women goes to? far as the tenants the damages been done they found out their rent did not go were they thought it was and now you guys are way behind on rent thats prob not a fixable situation best they move out and you start new I don't know it just seams like this drama just keeps going and going..

[ktya]

I'm sure you must have done this, but have you told the tenants, in a calm and measured way, what this woman has done? If you can keep your cool and just convey (limited) facts, then tell them if they stay in touch with her they could become subject to the same treatment from her, then just leave them to mull it over. I realise this may not make any difference whatsoever, but you are sowing a seed of doubt. Doing it calmly without any other agenda might make them think.

 

Ironically that is one of the first things that I did. I went downstairs to talk to the downstairs tenant about why and how I kicked the woman out of the house. She left me a land mine however, and a week prior had showed them both an email showing how much I owed to my landlord.

 

I had been hearing that the downstairs guy was really worried he was about to lose his home, so I took a day off work (partly due to stress and partly due to dealing with the loose ends I had to deal with after she was gone) and calmly talked to him about how I had talked to my landlord and that everything was going to be OK.

 

I ended up minutes later getting a barrage of accusations from the other tenant, I guess he had texted or talked to her about what I said, she accused me of filling his head with lies.

 

Part of the annoying dynamic with these particular tenants is that the male tenant is quite mousey and acts almost like a surrogate son to the female tenant, who is quite aggressive and confrontational.

 

As said way long ago in this thread, a great example was that very same Monday when I talked to him, I received in the middle of the barrage of accusations notification that the internet was disconnected. She was 2 hours away at work. When the accusations were done (I disengaged) he eventually meekly came up and asked about the internet. The whole affair pissed me off so bad that I just left it disconnected for the next 24 hours. With everything going on I just hadn't remembered to pay the bill.

 

is quite mousey It does sound a horribly complicated situation. I don't know how you can get proof of her coming into the house when you are not there, other than by using a camera, but if that is spotted it will just feed your tenants' paranoia. The whole thing has got so confusing and weird that trust has gone out of the window and you must all be horrible confused.

 

I dont know how to get proof beyond a reasonable doubt, but it's pretty obvious at this point. I am into martial arts and I have (or had) a 5 foot Jo staff and two arnis bamboo fighting sticks, along with a 3.5 foot boken (wooden sword). There is absolutely no way on earth the woman could have taken those the day I kicked her out.

 

While I'm pretty sure the combat knife went missing after she left as well, that was small enough to be able to be stuffed into one of the bags she was carrying.

 

I searched the entire house, garage, outside for the fighting sticks and the Jo staff, just in case she put them somewhere or hid them on me. Gone. Why she would steal them is well beyond me, she has no clue how to use them and they're nicked and dented from sparring. Ditto on the combat knife, although that was in mint condition but it's value would be very low for resale.

 

You are correct in that this whole situation has become a nightmare both in the quality of the interactions going on inside this house as well as trust issues. At points I'm starting to feel like I'm turning into a paranoid maniac, which, in a way, I am.

 

This is because there are now multiple layers. I am concerned about whether I am going to get paid my rents (because I'm in deep debt with my landlord and I dont want to promise him something and fall through) because they have their boxes all pre-packed. I'm concerned about the security of my house and the things in it. I'm concerned that one or both of my tenants is planning on moving out with this woman, because if they move when I'm out of the house they can take a lot of my valuable stuff if they're armed with a moving truck. I'm concerned about what is going to go on when I go to work, because if this woman is now staying somewhere a mere few blocks away it is nothing for the male tenant to tell her I'm out at work and she could be here in minutes.

 

At times I feel like I'm losing my mind.

 

is quite mousey At least you are reporting your suspicions. The police may not be able to do anything or be interested in doing anything, but if they take note that could come in useful later.

 

Yes and OKC has been helpful (that's how I initially met her). They have contacted the police and let them know if they want any information they can put her in touch with their legal department. My guess is that this woman has been doing this for a while, latching in on some guy, sucking him dry, and when he gets sick of it, she makes him put her up in a hotel to get rid of her and she steals a bunch of valuables.

 

She's a pretty smooth operator, the whole thing is pretty embarassing. She played suzy homemaker, washing walls, making drapes, cleaning everything, doing and folding laundry. What she was actually doing I guess was casing the place for valuables when her ruse that she had two jobs two houses an apartment a car and a phone and a $25000 line of credit ran up so she could take the best valuables and jet quickly.

 

I hope the cops look into her message history. Shortly after she was here she received over 40 messages from one guy in a row in an hour. I'm guessing that guy probably had stuff jacked, at the time it seemed like he was just another OLD psycho but in hindsight it makes sense.

 

is quite mousey It looks like you'll have to get rid of the tenants now that trust has broken down. If you can't trust them to keep this woman out of the house, there is no way past that. Could you leave a laptop somewhere with a video stream to you? They wouldn't know. I know that it is a big risk as it could get stolen or messed with but up until it is touched, you should have the video.

 

I have thought about surveillance of some sort, and I still am. If this woman so much as enters the house at this point it is definitely by being given access by the downstairs tenant and I just spent $60 (great deal, done by a friend, would have been regular $250) to replace all the locks.

 

Something fishy is definitely going on though.

 

After I saw her at the local 7-11, I kicked around the house baking bread and drinking rum. I waited for the female tenant who had her jewelery stolen to come out and let her know what I saw, and that I have my suspicions that she is staying in the neighborhood and possibly with the downstairs tenant's dad as she was on foot at 5:45am on a Saturday, no transit was running and its an oddball place to be if your not local without a car. (the rationale is how would she find someone within blocks of here so quick, but she could have just contacted my downstairs tenant's dad as he has a moving company and she got his number).

 

Well the female tenant just looked at me and said, "So, maybe she just wanted a coffee. That's your Saturday?". For someone who has lost what was apparently a lot of gold jewelery the reaction was pretty flat. If it was my stuff that was missing I'd be asking questions like why didnt you follow her or which way was she walking.

 

I was talking to my aunt about it all and my aunt thinks I'm probably right, the ex is probably staying at his dad's house, and once the police report came up she probably gave her the jewlery back, under the guise that "I just took it because I didnt want him to steal it to pay the rent, tried to get ahold of you blabla".

 

Mostly I want them out just because of the atmosphere in this house. To be thousands in the hole with my landlord is stressful enough. To come home and at the drop of a hat end up getting yelled and screamed at by both my tenants is just too much. The trust issues on top of that, its maddening.

 

What I've peiced together as a narrative is this. Dec 5 I kicked her out. At that point she definitely stole my mothers' jewelery when she was packing her things. I sent her to a hotel and paid for a night with $40 in her hand and a bus ticket.

 

She then got the hotel to charge me for a second night, a fiasco that took over a week to sort out and get my money back. Sunday she left the hotel, probably after sob storying both of my tenants but especially the male.

 

So she shows up here while I'm at work, and says shes going to get the email from my landlord so she can email my landlord to make sure my tenants are "going to be OK. While she's doing that, she steals my combat knife and the other tenant's jewelery, goes back downstairs and sends the email from his computer. (Which is a jackass thing for him to let her do, because her stirring the pot actually DOES put his place to stay in jeapordy given what she wrote)

 

She leaves maybe with him and goes to his dad's place to see if she can stay there for a day or two "until she gets her money and she'll get a place to save his son from getting kicked out". They huff and puff and pack their boxes over the course of that week figuring they're moving out the 13th/14th, and of course the money never comes, during which time she comes over again "to help the male tenant pack" and in the process either steals my martial arts equipment and takes it to his dads or puts it on the street "in case he goes crazy and tries to hurt you with them".

 

Then when its time for female tenant to pay her rent, she drags and drags because if they were supposed to move out a few days ago she doesn't want to pay a month's rent for nothing, so she marches up to the dad's place on the last possible day to pay and grills the woman on whether this plan is for real or not, and with me threatening to put her on the street and not getting a satisfactory answer, decides to pay at the last possible minute (11:45pm). Maybe she got her jewelery back at this time or earlier, I dont know.

 

The stress of all of this mumbo jumbo and the big secret and now realizing that the two buffoons actually have no plan at all, leads to the unwarranted tirade and blowout the following day when I'm sitting with my friend after meeting with and paying my landlord. The female tenant is screaming at the top of her lungs and the male comes up to join in.

 

The male tenant has been gone since Friday night. No idea where he is, I know he's coming back because all his stuff is here. Female tenant is almost like a surrogate mother to him, and she didn't even know he wasn't home. My money is on that he's up at his dad's house (a mere blocks away) in a panic because he realizes he's on the wrong side of the equation and my ex is having sex with his dad now and she's decided not to fork over any of her magic money for a place so his whole plan is doubly kaput, and he can't convince her to stick to the original plan (which was a sham in the first place), and he might be out a bunch of money.

 

-Phew-

 

Anyways... looking forward. I told the female tenant when she gave her notice that if she lets me know if she is to move out early and I find another tenant to take over part of her tenancy I will credit her a prorated amount for the portion someone else is in the room. The sooner she leaves, the better, because she's the more aggressive of the two, and once she's gone Mr. Mouse male tenant's balls will recede back into his stomach as he will have to deal with me directly.

 

Mr. Male tenant, I beleive, doesn't have the money to get a place anyway, as I heard that his unemployment claim didn't go through and he's been getting practically no hours at work. Which, I think, is how he ended up mixed up in the scheme with the con artist ex in the first place.

 

That woman plays a really good game. She finds out how you are in trouble and then offers to help, bleeding you dry all the while dangling the help you need in your face. (What do you mean you can't buy me a pack of smokes? I'm going to pay the first months rent and damage deposit and save your ass, its the least you can do). You end up in the sheepish position after a while where because she's been bleeding you dry in small nicks that you need the help ever more, but the help never comes, and you become increasingly desperate. When you finally give up on getting her help, she disappears and you're left with nothing.

 

I could see the male tenant being especially susceptible to this game because (a) if he cant pay his rent anyway he knows he's getting the boot - especially after all the yelling and screaming and letting her in the house, and (b) because he is in general a pretty gullible guy (you'd have to be to trust someone AFTER your landlord kicked her out for basically lying about... well everything).

 

To be honest, and it might sound cruel, I'm looking forward to watching this guy be completely screwed at the end of the month. If things go the way I think they will, he wont be able to move in with his dad as his backup plan because the woman will be there banging his dad and daddy will want the house to himself, plus he will be sickened by her presence.

 

I certainly wont be cutting him any slack after all this, because he not only let the woman in, screamed at me, and collaborated with her, but he also long before this shtstorm ever started dutifully told graphic details of my sexual and financial history to a woman who was, at the time, my girlfriend - which is just plain stupid.

 

My guess is that the female tenant is trying to move out for the first as it is. She makes enough money she can take the hit.

 

So in another 10 days, I hope, it will all be over, I can clean up their rooms, and start over again with people without all this baggage.

 

Unfortunately while riding it out I'm broke because of my aggressive repayment to my landlord, and it happens to be Christmas.

[ktya]

How about a restraining order that officially makes it illegal for her to enter your residence?

 

Its difficult when she can't be located to be served.

 

I did report the sighting at the 7-11 to the police.

[ktya]

Wow this is still going on? didn't you get a restraining order op? what dose it matter what 7-11 the women goes to?

 

The problem, as stated several times, is that things went missing well after I kicked her out. Its one thing if she and my tenants are collaborating on moving in together or still talking if she is 30-40 minutes away. If she is a 5 minute walk away it doesnt take much for her to pop down and gain access to my house from my male tenant when I'm at work, or even when I go to the store. Which means more stuff could go missing.

[ktya]

lol oh and sorry in my long post above - I copy pasted spiderowls quote tag and somehow ended up with "is quite mousey" getting pasted instead, which broke the second two quoted paragraphs. I tried to edit it when I realized, but it was too late. They gotta lengthen the edit time on here.

[TigerLilly78]

The problem, as stated several times, is that things went missing well after I kicked her out. Its one thing if she and my tenants are collaborating on moving in together or still talking if she is 30-40 minutes away. If she is a 5 minute walk away it doesnt take much for her to pop down and gain access to my house from my male tenant when I'm at work, or even when I go to the store. Which means more stuff could go missing.

So get a restraining order and let the tenets know if shes on the property shes going to jail I think they could then also be facing charges if they let her in not 100% sure on that but ide think..if they continue to allow her in then start the eviction process I just don't understand how its all dragging out like it is...stop asking the tenets for more money and ask them to leave if they continue to let this women into the home..

[ktya]

So get a restraining order and let the tenets know if shes on the property shes going to jail I think they could then also be facing charges if they let her in not 100% sure on that but ide think..if they continue to allow her in then start the eviction process I just don't understand how its all dragging out like it is...stop asking the tenets for more money and ask them to leave if they continue to let this women into the home..

 

I cannot get a restraining order against a woman on such flimsy evidence. Myself and the other tenant both reported missing items, but as the officer told me, seeing as there are no locks on the interior doors and that even the ex-girlfriend could have let someone in who committed the theft it would be extremely difficult to prove. Further, if the male tenant will not admit that he let her in on that day (which he wont, because then it would be his fault the other tenant's jewelery got stolen, something he wont want to wear) then again obtaining a restraining order would be extremely difficult.

 

Finally, a restraining order will do little if the male tenant lets her in and I am not home to see and report it, which is the exact same problem that I have right now without a restraining order. I do not expect the male tenant to ever let this woman into the house if I'm around, honesly, I'd rather if he did, because then I'd call the police so they can interrogate her about the missing items.

 

You are correct that yes I want this all to end as quickly as possible. However I can't just "ask them to leave". The male tenant paid one months' rent December 1st for the month. In order to have grounds to remove him without "cause" I would have to give him one months' notice, which I'm hoping doesn't happen because I just hope he just cant pay or just leaves without notice. The female tenant paid the rent for Dec 17 to Jan 17 and gave notice.

 

Given the situation with my landlord, I need to have ample time to find new tenants.

 

With luck this will all be over in 10 days... male tenant bounces because he moves or can't pay the rent, and female tenant moves out on the first to secure a good place.