jcrew11 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 White women have all the power and choice on match.com and even white guys struggle on match.com. If you just want to date any women, try message black women, they will be more willing to date you. Also try tinder and see how that works. You have to be open-minded on dating very young or very old women, over-weight women, and foreign women. Link to post Share on other sites
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Why don't you post the text of your profile here? You can still remain anonymous. Don't give out your username. I can private message you the text if you send me a PM if you would like to critique. I mean, I really think it really makes no difference. But if you want. Link to post Share on other sites
LookAtThisPOst Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Women care a lot more about religion than race or height. If you are Catholic or Christian, then you will have more luck with Catholic and Christian women. Try going to church, most women prefer meeting men at church. I beg to differ. I've been turned down by devout Christian woman who admittedly told me she wasn't physically attracted. Link to post Share on other sites
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) White women have all the power and choice on match.com and even white guys struggle on match.com. If you just want to date any women, try message black women, they will be more willing to date you. You have to be open-minded on dating very young or very old women, over-weight women, and foreign women. All of that is already on the table. You think I'm messaging all cute, fit white women? You're late to this game. I've already messaged black women and women with children. I am actually genuinely attracted to all types of women. And one, probably two kids is fine with me. Also, black women screen for height pretty heavily. I don't really expect any responses. I also don't really think I'll be more likely to get a response from the 58 year old overweight woman with 5 kids who makes less than 25K a year. It just really doesn't work that way. Edited November 30, 2014 by JuneJulySeptember 1 Link to post Share on other sites
guest569 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 have you tried looking at profiles of your own age or older ? going 10 years younger at your age will be like shoveling sand against the tide. The women who are 30 and available aren't looking for someone 10 years older or looking for a father figure. Really?? Totally disagree with this and I'm not even 30 yet. 10 years is nothing to me. Link to post Share on other sites
smg15 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 The height thing is overrated because Im tall and single and see several short me in public walking with attractive women Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 The height thing is overrated because Im tall and single and see several short me in public walking with attractive women I would guess height is only an issue in OLD as they ask that question, IRL you either like or not, height may not come into it. Link to post Share on other sites
smg15 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I would guess height is only an issue in OLD as they ask that question, IRL you either like or not, height may not come into it. exactly because she is looking at your face and getting a instant preview of your personality. Link to post Share on other sites
jcrew11 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 All of that is already on the table. You think I'm messaging all cute, fit white women? You're late to this game. I've already messaged black women and women with children. I am actually genuinely attracted to all types of women. And one, probably two kids is fine with me. Also, black women screen for height pretty heavily. I don't really expect any responses. I also don't really think I'll be more likely to get a response from the 58 year old overweight woman with 5 kids who makes less than 25K a year. It just really doesn't work that way. Honestly, if you claim to be a good catch - employed, middle-class, attractive face - then you will probably be better off going to real life events rather than online. Try going to a Catholic church, all those nice church girls want nice employed guys. Join a yoga class to meet women. Link to post Share on other sites
smg15 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 someone 58 should not have any kids living with her lol Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I just find that so funny that we screen for looks so fastidiously and at the end of the day, what we are left with is completely incompatible on the inside. Of course, I know some people have the luxury of being a lot more picky, but still, it doesn't seem like the smart way to play the game. This is how I've always felt. That it's just not a good plan to be so strict about superficial preferences, and that overall it's hurting someone more than helping. I've never been fussed about looks, race, or height. 2 of my exes are black, and 2 of my exes are shorter than me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
smg15 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 My preferences when it comes to looks is just a cute face don't need a perfect body or thin body Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Really?? Totally disagree with this and I'm not even 30 yet. 10 years is nothing to me. You're in your 20's.. I wasn't posting about someone in their 20's Link to post Share on other sites
guest569 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) I'm only a few years shy of 30, and I dated a man in his 40s. Edited December 1, 2014 by a LoveShack.org Moderator Link to post Share on other sites
smg15 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) I'm only a few years shy of 30, and I dated a man in his 40s. I know at 39 I still get messages from women who are 27/28 Edited December 1, 2014 by a LoveShack.org Moderator Link to post Share on other sites
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 First wave is done. Ten women messaged. All of whom I carefully spent hours picking out and screening so that I was very close to what they wanted AND there was some semblance to potential compatibility in our profiles and sending catered messages too. 8 of 10 read. No responses. A couple of them didn't even bother to look at my profile. Deflating, since I really handpicked those profiles to give myself the best chance and really didn't even consider looks at all. I'm going to keep at for now, but a blow to my initial optimism. Link to post Share on other sites
LookAtThisPOst Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 First wave is done. Ten women messaged. All of whom I carefully spent hours picking out and screening so that I was very close to what they wanted AND there was some semblance to potential compatibility in our profiles and sending catered messages too. 8 of 10 read. No responses. A couple of them didn't even bother to look at my profile. Deflating, since I really handpicked those profiles to give myself the best chance and really didn't even consider looks at all. I'm going to keep at for now, but a blow to my initial optimism. As an experiment, I emailed some women I wasn't attracted to to only get "views" but no responses. SO that kind of proves something about online dating there. Link to post Share on other sites
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 As an experiment, I emailed some women I wasn't attracted to to only get "views" but no responses. SO that kind of proves something about online dating there. Yea I can see that now. Guys spend the first waves really handpicking carefully women they have the best chances with and when that goes down they just try and see 'what they can get'. That spirals into just messaging anybody and everybody. And it ensures most any woman gets a decent amount of messages. Like I said, my only fear is how it translates into the real world. Link to post Share on other sites
sillyanswer Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 First wave is done. Ten women messaged. All of whom I carefully spent hours picking out and screening so that I was very close to what they wanted AND there was some semblance to potential compatibility in our profiles and sending catered messages too. 8 of 10 read. No responses. Maybe I'm less fussy about who I choose to write to... but whatever it is it doesn't take me "hours" choosing 10 women to write to. A bit more practice and you'll probably be able to speed this up. A couple of them didn't even bother to look at my profile. I can't remember which site you're using, but many of them have ways to browse anonymously so that you can't even tell if they look at your profile. PoF and OKC certainly have this. It could be that some of these women are doing that. I don't really pay attention any more to whether they looked at my profile. When I send a first message I basically stop paying any attention to that woman. If she writes back then that's a happy surprise, but how she chooses to do her selection of who to write to isn't something I can control so I don't worry about it. This weekend I noticed that I was getting profile views from women I had forgotten I had written to until I checked (to avoid writing to them twice)... and it was over a week since I wrote to them. Maybe they hadn't logged in for a while. Deflating, since I really handpicked those profiles to give myself the best chance and really didn't even consider looks at all. I'm going to keep at for now, but a blow to my initial optimism. I know that some people report more success, but if I only wrote to 10 women I wouldn't expect a reply. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
insert_name Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 First wave is done. Ten women messaged. All of whom I carefully spent hours picking out and screening so that I was very close to what they wanted AND there was some semblance to potential compatibility in our profiles and sending catered messages too. 8 of 10 read. No responses. A couple of them didn't even bother to look at my profile. Deflating, since I really handpicked those profiles to give myself the best chance and really didn't even consider looks at all. I'm going to keep at for now, but a blow to my initial optimism. Don't have any optimism at all and you can't lose. Easy said than done, I know. But you have an idea of the sort of numbers you are competing against. Bear in mind that a lot of women on here dont seem keen on multi dating and your chances get even slimmer, in that if she is already in an established conversation with one man (highly likely if getting 6-8 quality messages a day) then she is going to ignore all new correspondance. Protect your ego by realising that OLD is strange, its not real and if you do succeed at it you have probably beaten odds greater than winning the lottery. Link to post Share on other sites
Rejected Rosebud Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 As an experiment, I emailed some women I wasn't attracted to to only get "views" but no responses. SO that kind of proves something about online dating there. What does that prove about online dating? I've never tried it but my sister and her husband met on Match.com, it can work and does work for a lot of people and not for a lot of others! Link to post Share on other sites
FitChick Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Get better pictures. Ones taken outside are generally more flattering. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) Maybe I'm less fussy about who I choose to write to... but whatever it is it doesn't take me "hours" choosing 10 women to write to. A bit more practice and you'll probably be able to speed this up. I know that some people report more success, but if I only wrote to 10 women I wouldn't expect a reply. No you are right. I jumped out of the gate with a weird optimism like the woman I wrote would be thrilled to hear from me for some reason. So, I really made the messages count. I'm settling in though. Thanks. Really though? If you wrote 10 women who were around your looks level and you met all or most of their criteria, you wouldn't expect a reply? Perhaps I am overestimating my looks level. I'm no prize for sure but nobody I messaged was really over a 5. Maybe one or two of the girls was a 6 depending on who you asked. I don't want to get too deep into the league thing, but it does make a difference, let's be real. If I was as low as a 3, should I expect a woman who is a 5 to message me back? Don't have any optimism at all and you can't lose. Easy said than done, I know. But you have an idea of the sort of numbers you are competing against. Bear in mind that a lot of women on here dont seem keen on multi dating and your chances get even slimmer, in that if she is already in an established conversation with one man (highly likely if getting 6-8 quality messages a day) then she is going to ignore all new correspondance. Protect your ego by realising that OLD is strange, its not real and if you do succeed at it you have probably beaten odds greater than winning the lottery. Good advice. Thanks dude. Edited December 1, 2014 by JuneJulySeptember Link to post Share on other sites
sillyanswer Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 A couple of them didn't even bother to look at my profile. Not sure if this will happen to you, but I just got a profile visit tonight from someone I wrote to two weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 Not sure if this will happen to you, but I just got a profile visit tonight from someone I wrote to two weeks ago. .................. Link to post Share on other sites
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