Woman ARE less superficial than men. With Proof.

[Million.to.1]

Yes, I'm here to start a gender war.

 

No really. I thought these were interesting.

 

 

 

What do you guys think?

[Toodaloo]

Can't you just spend your time doing something more productive that winding everyone up yet again...

 

Boring subject. Been done to death. Responses will go as follows.

 

Men are great - women are a-holes

 

No women are great - men are a-holes

 

Wash dry and repeat...

 

Yadda yadda yadda...

 

Topic over after a few members have insulted each other and got upset. Well done. Have a nice weekend everyone.

[Chemist]

Yes, I'm here to start a gender war.

 

No really. I thought these were interesting.

 

 

 

What do you guys think?

 

It proves nothing, IMO. It shows that shallow men showed up and continued to be shallow. That these women weren't particularly shallow... Put a picture of a fat guy up and fat girl up, and see who gets more messages and responses on dating sites Not even obese, let's say a bit heavy, like a good 50 lbs overweight. Then see just how non shallow girls are

[GemmaUK]

 

 

I am going to have to respectfully disagree here MT1.

 

 

I think what this shows is that women, from little girls are taught to be kinder to people and more accepting. I am not saying that men are not taught this at all - just that I think some of their tolerance levels are lower than in an equally attractive woman.

 

 

The actual proof though - nah! I don't think the proof is in these videos. The proof would be from whether and how many of those ladies wanted to meet that guy again for a second 'date' (notice I say date and not just a friends meet up).

 

 

Being a shallow woman myself (and embracing it) I met that guy!

No, not him in the suit but a guy from OLD who looked about the same in is photos and looked about the same IRL as the guy with the suit on.

I walked past the guy three times and figured I had been stood up ...then he called out my name..t was the only way I recognised him.

I didn't see him again - not that his size was the entire reason though - it was a strange night and he said some strange stuff!

 

 

I also dated another chap - he turned out to be the master of breathing in.

Being one not to jump into intimacy it was a good 2/3 months before I saw him minus his clothes. It was a shock to be honest.

I will admit I battled to ignore my feelings. I did actually try to make a go of things and had his personality not changed from when I first met him then I would probably still be with him.

I have seen some recent pics of him (friends on FB are still friends with him) and he was about 5/6 stone overweight when I dated him. He has put on a couple of stone since then. It's clear from the photos I saw.

He would now weigh three times as much as me as I am 8st.

[elaine567]

It maybe only showed that the women were politer and possibly more dishonest than the men, as they didn't want to upset or disappoint him.

How many would actually go on second date with him ie actually show up, may be more revealing. Of course some women may see him as non threatening and that can be a bonus too.

 

I found the male perspective although more honest maybe, was pretty selfish and not very nice. Surely it isn't a big deal to just stay have a coffee or have a chat with someone, or is the pursuit of booty too pressing for them to even waste 10 minutes?

Or were they just so worried about being seen with a non-hot women in case it ruined their image?

[Maleficent]

More fake profiles for social experiments?

 

Great...

[elaine567]

Good point Maleficient, very "interesting", but those guinea pigs were people who were actually looking for relationships and they totally wasted their time. All that hope, anticipation and excitement reduced to entertainment on a youtube video.

[Danda]

I didn't really notice a difference in reactions? None of the men or women acted like douches. They were all obviously surprised and felt awkward, they had been deliberately deceived after all, and they knew it. For the most part I think they all tried to handle it gracefully, given the circumstances. I mean it wasn't blind dating. They were deceived and it was obvious that they had been purposefully deceived. That never feels good. Some were more assertive than others, but that was about it.

 

The tests themselves seem a little sexist to me, though, although maybe it wasn't intentional. When the guy role played he went out of his way to be obnoxious. (Hates dogs, only likes fit women, etc - they made his character a total ass.) But they made the female fat suit character much more pleasant conversation-wise. It's like they were trying to provoke the women to be more upset or something?

 

But across the board I don't think anyone behaved terribly. Maybe the topic is skewed itself.

 

I mean I am 26. If I meet up with a guy who used someone else's photos and claimed her was 27, and he shows up and is 68, would anyone judge me for being startled, awkward and a little irritated? The issue is the deception involved.

[ponchsox]

Lol :laugh:

[elaine567]

I mean I am 26. If I meet up with a guy who used someone else's photos and claimed he was 27, and he shows up and is 68, would anyone judge me for being startled, awkward and a little irritated? The issue is the deception involved.

Yes if he said he was 68 or 18, 20st or 8st, 7'2 or 3'7, then you judge on the reality and it is up to you whether you want to go there.

To deceive is always going to cause problems, as the one that is deceived feels duped and upset. No-one likes to be made a fool of especially whilst dating. Dating makes everyone feel a bit emotionally exposed and vulnerable.

[Imported]

I found the male perspective although more honest maybe, was pretty selfish and not very nice. Surely it isn't a big deal to just stay have a coffee or have a chat with someone, or is the pursuit of booty too pressing for them to even waste 10 minutes?

Or were they just so worried about being seen with a non-hot women in case it ruined their image?

 

 

Don't like being lied to. Not going to sit and entertain someone that lied to me for long.

 

Honestly, I think I'd be perfectly correct to just walk on by and keep going. It is a waste of time. I could be working on getting 10,000 post on Loveshack instead!

 

But I am just too damn nice. I'd probably sit there and try to be nice...but not too nice as I don't want her to think anything will come of it. Probably pay for everything too.

 

Luckily I don't online date and any girl I ask out, I have already seen in person.

[Frank2thepoint]

Yes, I'm here to start a gender war.

 

No really. I thought these were interesting.

 

 

 

What do you guys think?

 

These videos have been posted before, somewhere in the shuffle of threads on LS. What I'm surprised is not one person realized each subject was wearing a fat suit. You can just tell there is something unnatural about the "fat".

 

 

More fake profiles for social experiments?

 

Great...

 

Good point Maleficient, very "interesting", but those guinea pigs were people who were actually looking for relationships and they totally wasted their time. All that hope, anticipation and excitement reduced to entertainment on a youtube video.

 

That's the implied message the countless videos convey. Don't do OLD because it has a bunch of fake profiles (such as my thread on the topic: Fake dating profiles created through Facebook - article) and a bunch that seem legitimate are being used for some experiment to be featured as a video on Youtube.

[Revolver]

Men find a higher percentage of the female population(within their age range) attractive than women do.

[HereNorThere]

Post the fat guy's bank account statement with a million dollars next to his picture and watch what happens!

[elaine567]

Post the fat guy's bank account statement with a million dollars next to his picture and watch what happens!

 

That's cynical.

[bubbletea]

i saw this video a while ago... the women were more polite, the men were more rude (the ones ditching or verbalizing that they were offended).

 

to be fair some of those guys look more like they want a hook up instead of seeming like a nice gentlemanly type. they should have chosen a different range of guys. then maybe they all wouldn't have been so shallow.

[Gloria25]

I just think women are less picky about a guy's looks - especially if he lets himself go after they start a RL.

 

On Seinfeld, one time Elaine said that men's bodies are more "utilitarian" and not as sexy/beautiful as women's bodies.

 

And yea, men are more visual creatures than we women are.

[elaine567]

i saw this video a while ago... the women were more polite, the men were more rude (the ones ditching or verbalizing that they were offended).

 

to be fair some of those guys look more like they want a hook up instead of seeming like a nice gentlemanly type. they should have chosen a different range of guys. then maybe they all wouldn't have been so shallow.

 

Well that is how the results could be easily skewed to show whatever they wanted to show ie women are nice and men are jerks.

Choose a bunch of empathetic women looking for a relationship who state on their profile that they are not much fussed about looks

And choose a bunch of men who are obviously players or who are looking for a hook up and who state that conventional good looks are everything or very important to them.

 

Social experiment thus proven, women ARE nice and men in the majority ARE jerks. Easy.

[NJ123]

Well that is how the results could be easily skewed to show whatever they wanted to show ie women are nice and men are jerks.

Choose a bunch of empathetic women looking for a relationship who state on their profile that they are not much fussed about looks

And choose a bunch of men who are obviously players or who are looking for a hook up and who state that conventional good looks are everything or very important to them.

 

Social experiment thus proven, women ARE nice and men in the majority ARE jerks. Easy.

 

The women were nice, but highly doubt they would have given the guy a second date. Maybe only because they enjoy his company they would, but not for it to get anything further than being a friend to the guy.

[Shining One]

Yes, I'm here to start a gender war.

 

No really. I thought these were interesting.

 

 

 

 

What do you guys think?

The experiment is fundamentally flawed in several ways. It also provides insufficient information to make the claim that women are less superficial than men. A true experiment would involve testing other physical aspects too: Height, skin color (race), hair color, eye color, eye color, etc. This simply tests one aspect.

 

 

Men find a higher percentage of the female population(within their age range) attractive than women do.

I haven't done any research on this to confirm, but my experience backs this up. Within my circle of friends and family, the women generally have more stringent physical standards than men. Yes, the women are more accepting of body shapes, but they are less willing to compromise on height and race. This is just a small sample size, so it's not enough to draw a real conclusion. I would be interested on seeing some actual statistics on this.

[NJ123]

Pretty much what I was trying to say. I think keeping the game up into the 2nd date and beyond would have been a better test. The women acted more polite, but that was all.

 

If they really want to see how shallow people are, just create profiles with fat pictures. See how many men and women actually want to talk to and meet with those fat picture profiles.

 

Of course. None of these women would have met up with him if he was fat to begin with on his profile pics. But we live in a shallow world.

[Million.to.1]

Thanks for the responses guys. I think most people are right and that the experiment is a little flawed/skewed.

 

What I did find interesting though was how both men and woman were up front about their initial surprise of their dates weight. The woman were more forgiving though and still were polite gave him a chance and the guy did get another "date/meet-up" out of some of the woman. (even a friends)

The men were just p#*sed off that they were lied to, (fair enough) but acted quite poorly regardless.

The fat suit girl would probably not go on another date with any of those guys except the one who stayed after the whole "it was a fat suit/i'm actually hot" thing was revealed. The guy had a few woman he could see again in RL who I'm sure would all be happy that it was just a fat suit and not embarrassed by their behaviour in the experiment.

 

I was being provocative with my choice of thread title BTW.

[Radu]

Yes, I'm here to start a gender war.

 

No really. I thought these were interesting.

 

 

 

What do you guys think?

 

This thing where men are expected to be more discriminatory than women totally proves everything !!!

 

I suggest a bill is passed to put more power, money and resources to help women achieve stuff ... as they are the better sex !!!

[Imported]

Of course. None of these women would have met up with him if he was fat to begin with on his profile pics. But we live in a shallow world.

 

 

No.

 

We live in a world full of people that eat too much food and are too sedentary and then expect people of the opposite sex that actually take the time to workout and eat only enough to satisfy hunger and not gourge themselves to be attracted to the end result of fat peoples life style.

 

Watch that Megan Trainor video "All about the bass". It's supposedly about inner beauty and being big is good, but her love interest in that vid is a skinny/in-shape guy. Why didn't she find that fat guy dancing attractive enough to fill that roll instead?

 

So what I get from that is even fat people are not attracted to fat people.

[mario_C]

Post the fat guy's bank account statement with a million dollars next to his picture and watch what happens!

O.L.D. profiles ask you to fill in your salary, and you can search with that criteria selected (usually).

And recently I had the pleasure of doubling my income statement on my O.L.D. proflies. Did nothing to increase or decrease my visitors.