Jan. 1 the world goes on a diet

[FitChick]

Will you be joining them? I need to drop the three (four?) pounds I've gained in the past two months. Daily sugar shock!

 

I tend to agree with her, very controversial in the UK. She did a brave thing to prove a point. She makes sense which makes her very unpopular when it comes to people taking responsibility for their own poor choices.

[HazyCosmicJive]

Will you be joining them? I need to drop the three (four?) pounds I've gained in the past two months. Daily sugar shock!

 

I tend to agree with her, very controversial in the UK. She did a brave thing to prove a point. She makes sense which makes her very unpopular when it comes to people taking responsibility for their own poor choices.

 

 

I don't diet because I think controlling what you eat shouldn't have a start and an end. It should be a habit. If anything, I do it the other way around - sometimes I'll splurge and eat like a pig, but then I have to pay it back somehow.

[Imported]

I don't agree with her that fat people are lazy workers. I know some guys that are fat and they are some of the best people I have worked with and I know some people that are bean pole skinny and I don't like working with them because they do not have good work ethics.

 

However, I do think 99.99% of people that are fat can get in shape if they actually tried. This includes the people that will post later proclaiming they really workout hard and eat next to nothing and gain weight.

[Robert Z]

I agree that most people can get fit if they put in the effort. But I also place a lot of the blame with the food industry. They specifically target our natural defenses against overeating - bliss point engineering - and create foods that aren't even food. There are people who never eat real food anymore!

 

There is one really easy way to begin to lose weight: Eat all natural foods. That eliminates the addictive qualities designed into processed foods.

 

And the value of eating fruit is oversold. Fruit tends to be very high in sugar. Since going low carb, I can hardly tell the difference between fruit and candy. To me, a piece of fruit is like candy. Sugar sugar sugar. Vegetables are the way to go. Or better yet, eat foods that have a low glycemic index. That is the best way to avoid the sugar rush to fat problem.

 

 

I was off of my program with a couple of injuries and had been bulking, so I'm already cutting. Did 5 miles on a 10-20% uphill grade today on the elliptical. [i was running 15%-20% before I was injured so I'm still getting back up to speed]

Edited December 31, 2014 by Robert Z

[ufo8mycat]

I don't agree with her that fat people are lazy workers. I know some guys that are fat and they are some of the best people I have worked with and I know some people that are bean pole skinny and I don't like working with them because they do not have good work ethics.

 

However, I do think 99.99% of people that are fat can get in shape if they actually tried. This includes the people that will post later proclaiming they really workout hard and eat next to nothing and gain weight.

 

Agree with this, but some times it is more than just "putting in enough effort". In professional services its called the qantas 10. The 10kgs you put on in the first there months because you spend four nights a week travelling, in a hotel, out with clients. Where you spend weeks on end at site-hotel-airport-site-hotel-airport. When the pressure is on and you are always in a different city, unable to prepare your own food, maintaining a routine in hard. Not impossible but pretty challenging.

 

So in my experience people put weight on BECAUSE they are hard workers and put everything else before their physical wellbeing. We usually all burn out and start running ultra marathons.

 

I don't do diets either as they don't work and as said above, nourishing your body and soul with good food choices, movement and people you cherish shouldn't have a start or an end.

 

But that isn't to say that the new year isn't a good opportunity to refocus and manage some of the bad habits that sometimes creep in.

[Robert Z]

So in my experience people put weight on BECAUSE they are hard workers and put everything else before their physical wellbeing. We usually all burn out and start running ultra marathons.

 

That is absolutely true. I did a lot of professional travel that was grueling - crazy hours and super-high pressure. That played a huge role in my weight gain and the demise of my health - dying at $2K a day.

[guest569]

Yeah its at the point where I feel fat and hate myself. Time for my diet of bugger all and lots of exercise.

[EverLastluv]

its a mind thing, I started doing so well loosing the weight. As soon the holidays kick in that was it. I was back to eating sugar, cook out food etc. Thats not the way to go for me, so the New Year resolution for me is taking it seriously loosing my weight.

[Imported]

Agree with this, but.....

 

So in my experience people put weight on BECAUSE they are hard workers and put everything else before their physical wellbeing. We usually all burn out and start running ultra marathons.

 

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SOME people put on weight because they are hard workers. Sure isn't all the fat people..or even close. I'll give credit where credit is due, but I don't give out free passes just because. Fat ≠ hard worker

 

Also when they go home, they don't do much else. That's a choice. Most of us are not working 12+ hours a day 7 days a week. Most of us have enough free time to be active. Many of us are not active durring our free time. What you eat and how much is a choice as well. You have control. You can't blame everything on the things you have no control over. People can either choose to lose weight or come up with an excuse they believe, but I am not going to believe their excuse.

 

 

Also, I spend @ 4+ months out of the year living in hotels for work. At home, I usually eat chicken and rice. On the road, I usually eat chicken and rice, except someone else cooks it for me. Or steak.

 

On the road, I usually work longer hours, but still will hit the gym in the hotel.....I choose the hotels I stay at based on if they have a pool I can lap swim at, a nice gym in the hotel or access to a commercial gym near-by. Most of the times, we stay at resorts for work, so eating healthy and working out is a personal choice. You diffinitely are given enough rope to hang yourself with. You can easily overeat or be lazy after the work is done, but these are choices. Sometimes I work with other people when I go on the road and many of them do nothing when the work is done. That's on them.

[jm2013]

People who make resolutions only in a new year will probably fail. Being fit and healthy is a lifestyle change. They say is takes a couple weeks to form a new habit. It's too bad most people fail so fast out of the gate. If people could hold on just a bit longer to the change I think they'd surprise themselves that it would start feeling weird NOT working out or feel weird eating garbage food. In 2015 I'll be trying new things like lean gains and intermittent fasting.

[ufo8mycat]

Also when they go home, they don't do much else. That's a choice. Most of us are not working 12+ hours a day 7 days a week. Most of us have enough free time to be active. Many of us are not active durring our free time. What you eat and how much is a choice as well. You have control. You can't blame everything on the things you have no control over. People can either choose to lose weight or come up with an excuse they believe, but I am not going to believe their excuse.

 

 

Also, I spend @ 4+ months out of the year living in hotels for work. At home, I usually eat chicken and rice. On the road, I usually eat chicken and rice, except someone else cooks it for me. Or steak.

 

On the road, I usually work longer hours, but still will hit the gym in the hotel.....I choose the hotels I stay at based on if they have a pool I can lap swim at, a nice gym in the hotel or access to a commercial gym near-by. Most of the times, we stay at resorts for work, so eating healthy and working out is a personal choice. You diffinitely are given enough rope to hang yourself with. You can easily overeat or be lazy after the work is done, but these are choices. Sometimes I work with other people when I go on the road and many of them do nothing when the work is done. That's on them.

 

Oh very true, most of us do have a choice. I am just talking about my experience and those of my many colleagues. I do over 120 flights a year and with limited time you end up eating the gruel on the plane.

 

Not everyone travels to areas with choices in food, hotels, gyms or pools. I spent 10 weeks in a town of 400 people with no gym, pool and the only place to stay is an airconditioned dog box. Can't run outside either because of the road trains and feral dogs. This is really common for people working in remote and regional areas. I get this isn't everyone but it is my experience that "put in more effort" always isn't simple. I tried taking my own food and snacks before only to have to dump it all at the airport as you can't take fruit and veggies across quite a few state borders!

 

So I got fat and it was really frustrating because so much was beyond my control. A big part of accepting and solving the issue was accepting that some stuff WAS beyond my control so not worth a second thought. Instead to focus on the stuff that was in my control.

 

With any goal of weightloss I am a big believer in small and sustainable changes. One at a time.

[FitChick]

Some people gain weight on vacation for the same reason some people say they are working too hard so gain weight. In both instances it's down to eating more than you burn. Eat less food if you are getting less exercise.

 

I always lose weight on vacation because I am constantly on the go seeing and doing things. No gym or any workout beyond walking. I snack during the day and occasionally will have one full meal, usually breakfast or lunch. I also get to bed early. More sleep equals weight loss since your hormones stabilize plus you aren't awake to shovel in the food.

 

If you have a computer on the road and really want to exercise, besides the walking you can watch youtube videos with plenty of bodyweight exercises.

[Danda]

Knowledge is power, in my opinion, but shaming usually doesn't do anything but cause people to stress eat and give up on themselves. People just need to keep reading and keep experimenting until they figure out what works for them. Encouragement is key, not shaming, in my perception.

 

For example I read so many raving reviews about the ketogenic diet. I tried it and it made me feel extremely sick even 9 days into it. I lost a lot of water weight initially but didn't notice any ground breaking transformations in my body and gave it up after two weeks.

 

I actually tend to do much better on a high-carb diet in which the carbs are al natural and not processed or processed as little as possible. Lots and lots of fruit, my body seems to love fruit + Greek yogurt, in all of its high-carb, sugary glory, yet it fills me up and allows me to lose or maintain while also being nutrient dense.

 

What works for my body flies in the face of every Carbs Are The Devil article and blog out there. But for some people, very low carb or even full blown ketogenic works miracles for them. We're all different and owe it to ourselves to research and experiment until we find what's right for us.

 

As far as exercise, when it comes to weight loss only, I think some people do better with different approaches than others. I mean it's a bottom line of burning calories, eh? When it comes to just trying to lose excess fat.

 

If I plan to jog 3 miles per day, that will last probably 2 days before I say **** it and don't exercise at all anymore. But if I make a song list for myself and agree to do 3mph on the treadmill in the basement through the whole song list while daydreaming, that I can do, and it's much better than nothing at all. Hard aerobics in general I just don't like and have a hard time sticking with, but squats to music I actually enjoy. To each their own.

[Robert Z]

Oh very true, most of us do have a choice. I am just talking about my experience and those of my many colleagues. I do over 120 flights a year and with limited time you end up eating the gruel on the plane.

 

 

Same here. I was working up to 36 hour shifts. There were times my only food source was vending machines. As for exercise, I was lucky if I could get more than five hours of sleep before the phone was ringing.

 

 

I did have not one, but two Christmas dinners in a factory, two years in a row... at the same factory!!! About that time I figured I had died and gone to hell but no one ever told me.

Edited December 31, 2014 by Robert Z

[FitChick]

Another article about Katie Hopkins' TV show. A fat woman threatened to call the police and report her for a hate crime. It sounds like a show where the audience screams, "I can't believe she said that!" Hope they have it available later online.

 

Her weight gain was 42 lbs. (3 stone).

[anne1707]

The woman is an obnoxious POS. About as classy and reliable as the Daily Mail

[Robert Z]

Knowledge is power, in my opinion, but shaming usually doesn't do anything but cause people to stress eat and give up on themselves. People just need to keep reading and keep experimenting until they figure out what works for them. Encouragement is key, not shaming, in my perception..

 

 

But also quit selling kids on the idea that fat is good. The fact is that people are giving up on health and fitness and making that fashionable

 

It's all about that Bass

 

It's all about that blood, blood pressure, blood pressure

It's all about that heart, heart attack, heart attack

It all about that cost, three trips to the ER

It's all about that burger, that burger, that burger

 

 

And then this is the game: If I say it is bad to be fat then I am calling you a bad person. No, you are a good person who needs to lose weight!

Edited January 1, 2015 by Robert Z

[Maleficent]

Another article about Katie Hopkins' TV show. A fat woman threatened to call the police and report her for a hate crime. It sounds like a show where the audience screams, "I can't believe she said that!" Hope they have it available later online.

 

Her weight gain was 42 lbs. (3 stone).

 

Hate crime?

Oh, facepalm.

[Maleficent]

But also quit selling kids on the idea that fat is good. The fact is that people are giving up on health and fitness and making that fashionable

 

It's all about that Bass

 

It's all about that blood, blood pressure, blood pressure

It's all about that heart, heart attack, heart attack

It all about that cost, three trips to the ER

It's all about that burger, that burger, that burger

 

 

And then this is the game: If I say it is bad to be fat then I am calling you a bad person. No, you are a good person who needs to lose weight!

 

No one is trying to sell anyone that being fat is good.

As a matter of fact, society is just as bad glorifying super skinny women. All about that bass is more about body acceptance than glorifying being fat.

 

Encouraging people to lose weight would work so much better without all the shaming. This lady just seems like a bully to me - she isn't encouraging anyone to do anything. All she is doing is 'look, I'm good I can do it - you can't or won't so you're disgusting.'

 

It's one thing to tell someone the fact they are overweight is a health hazard, it's another to call them disgusting pigs.

[Darren2013]

SOME people put on weight because they are hard workers. Sure isn't all the fat people..or even close. I'll give credit where credit is due, but I don't give out free passes just because. Fat ≠ hard worker

 

Also when they go home, they don't do much else. That's a choice. Most of us are not working 12+ hours a day 7 days a week. Most of us have enough free time to be active. Many of us are not active durring our free time. What you eat and how much is a choice as well. You have control. You can't blame everything on the things you have no control over. People can either choose to lose weight or come up with an excuse they believe, but I am not going to believe their excuse.

 

 

Also, I spend @ 4+ months out of the year living in hotels for work. At home, I usually eat chicken and rice. On the road, I usually eat chicken and rice, except someone else cooks it for me. Or steak.

 

On the road, I usually work longer hours, but still will hit the gym in the hotel.....I choose the hotels I stay at based on if they have a pool I can lap swim at, a nice gym in the hotel or access to a commercial gym near-by. Most of the times, we stay at resorts for work, so eating healthy and working out is a personal choice. You diffinitely are given enough rope to hang yourself with. You can easily overeat or be lazy after the work is done, but these are choices. Sometimes I work with other people when I go on the road and many of them do nothing when the work is done. That's on them.

 

 

Well you are not their dietary police officer so I don't really think that they care whether or not you think they are just making excuses. The way you come across you make it sound like you are part of a Jury. You seem to be too overly concerned about what they are doing with their free time.

[Darren2013]

I am a civilian. I don't need to be shamed into exercising. That's why I did not join the Military because I knew that I would be shamed into staying in shape. As a civilian I don't have to worry about someone breathing down my neck about what I eat or how little I exercise. If you are in the service then yes a certain level of fitness is expected of you.

[Danda]

This all depends on what kind of person you are dealing with. A buddy of mine got fat, and I shamed the crap out of him for it. Told him he needs to put the cheeseburgers down and get his fat behind in the gym with me. A weak minded person might say I was shaming them, then go home and cry in a corner, but my friend laughed it off, agreed with me, and now he's working out 4 days a week.

 

That's not shaming, though. That's some frank heart-to-heart talk between two friends who get each other and have an established way of communicating. That is very different from broadcasting to overweight people that they are disgusting and lazy and so on. Usually they are just not informed enough and have not found a plan that works for them. They try one approach and it doesn't work, then they feel like a failure, are told they are lazy and pathetic, believe it and give up. The rest of my post was meant to demonstrate that it's a matter of informing and encouraging people to experiment. The ketogenic approach didn't work for me but it wasn't because I was lazy and pathetic or whatever. It just wasn't for me. I kept researching and trying stuff until I found what worked for me. It would not have helped my morale had a bunch of people aggressively insisted that because keto didn't work for me, that I am flawed to my core and a failure. That's the point I was trying to make.

 

But also quit selling kids on the idea that fat is good. The fact is that people are giving up on health and fitness and making that fashionable

 

 

And then this is the game: If I say it is bad to be fat then I am calling you a bad person. No, you are a good person who needs to lose weight!

 

The problem is that people focus on numbers, number on the scale, number on the pants, number of inches around whatever part of the body. It usually has nothing to do with health at all. It's not about genuine concern for the well-being of others. It's just narcissistic sadism, putting others down to prop themselves up internally, and anyone can spot it from miles away when there is no emphasis on health and encouragement, only on the vanity factor and shaming.

 

There are some excellent special exceptions out there, though, blogs, trainers, doctors, etc who have a heavy emphasis on health and keeping it positive and not giving up until you find what works for you. When people attack that type as being 'judgemental' or whatever then it's bogus.

[Danda]

Basically IMHO it boils down to the fact that when a person decides to get healthier the only way it's gonna work long-term is if they are doing it for him/herself. That requires them to respect and love themselves and not give up on themselves. Sending them messages like they are lazy and pathetic and so on does not help that factor at all. And if they try to do it for other people, just to be accepted or whatever, then as soon as that loses value to them (i.e. they stop caring what others think) then they stop caring about their health. From square one they've gotta be in it for themselves, and that requires healthy self-value, self-respect and self-esteem, having faith in themselves and so on. So if you attack their character to 'motivate' them it's just very counterproductive. On sensational shows it might appear to work but it's because the person is under constant pressure and fear. As soon as the show is over most of them return to unhealthy habits because they were never doing it for themselves in the first place.

[guest569]

I crept overweight in my late teens and i think those magazines may have assisted that. "Love your body, accept your body and make the most of it" ummm, no.

 

I had the idea that that was my body and I had to accept it. I couldn't change it, it was my genes. I felt that it was "my shape" and I couldn't do anything about it. I was a very active person and I thought i ate reasonably well. (I didnt)

 

It only changed by accident. I went on a healthy diet with a friend for support. I was shocked, I am really a skinny person! I think its important to be a little careful and closely monitor your weight and food intake. For some of us it might seem obsessive it its better than pretending you love yourself when you dont. It's ok to feel fat and ugly as that is the single thing for me that makes me change.

[Darren2013]

Obesity is always going to be a problem in America. No matter how many messages you send out there trying to shame others into losing weight the reality is that most of the American people you see in public on a daily basis will show at least a little bit of tummy sticking out. That's the way it is in our society and that probably won't change anytime soon.