endlessabyss Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I think it would interesting to give them a try if the risk is minimal. Link to post Share on other sites
WhatYouWantToHear Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Seriously? Is this how people get health advice in this day and age? Posting to random forums and hoping you get a good answer? Come on, you obivously have access to the internet, so get on it and find out the answer. From what I know (which you shouldn't take as gospel) is yes, steriods are fine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SomeDude16 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The risk is "minimal" unless you're a idiot and don't do your research. You'd be amazed at the number of people that use steroids. Link to post Share on other sites
Author endlessabyss Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Personally, I have looked to a degree, and have found mixed results. From what I have gathered there are different kinds of steroids, so I guess, depending on which kind you take, each would have there own different affect on your body. Some have said no big deal, others make it out to be the end of the world. I would ask a doctor, but I have no health insurance at the time. I mean, don't professionals who take HGH do it under a doctors supervision to decrease risks? I'm not really worried about the physical affects, I'm only concerned about psychological. I weigh this from a cost benefit approach. I have a buddy that gets them, and I may just try it out for a month to see where it goes. No need for you guys to get butt hurt either lol. It was just a simple question, and for all I know, someone here could have experimented with steroids in the past, and could have shed light on things a little more in depth. Link to post Share on other sites
Satu Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Steroids are some of the most potent substances used in medicine. Even a 1% Hydrocortisone cream can cause serious problems if used incorrectly. Link to post Share on other sites
SomeDude16 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Personally, I have looked to a degree, and have found mixed results. From what I have gathered there are different kinds of steroids, so I guess, depending on which kind you take, each would have there own different affect on your body. Some have said no big deal, others make it out to be the end of the world. I would ask a doctor, but I have no health insurance at the time. I mean, don't professionals who take HGH do it under a doctors supervision to decrease risks? I'm not really worried about the physical affects, I'm only concerned about psychological. I weigh this from a cost benefit approach. I have a buddy that gets them, and I may just try it out for a month to see where it goes. No need for you guys to get butt hurt either lol. It was just a simple question, and for all I know, someone here could have experimented with steroids in the past, and could have shed light on things a little more in depth. Just know your steroid composition and manufacturer. This is important when you cycle your steroids. You don't just pop the pills every day for a month then stop. That's a great way to **** up your liver. You then must take the estrogen and other hormones to balance out you body to natural levels. It's more then just taking a pill. Link to post Share on other sites
dichotomy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 To what end? With testosterone, many men take it as medical replace or supplement low levels. There is minimal risk and some noted health benefits of this - as long as its used to boost/replace within normal ranges . But that's not to say side effects don't happen even in those medically justified reasons. Still others take testosterone at high levels, or other hormones, for performance, abilities, or appearance reasons such as athletes and body builders. Limiting risks in these cases requires very careful cycling and mixtures of counter drugs to rebalanced and recycle normal functioning. But I guess some are able to do it. Link to post Share on other sites
NGC1300 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Of course they can be used safely. All the negative hype comes from the drug stigma, where people don't even differentiate between drugs. But you have to, because drugs are different. Pills are rough on the liver, and shouldn't be used beyond 6 weeks or so. It's actually safer to inject, but you have to be willing to do that. I've done it with testosterone and it's no big deal. If you want to "test the waters", there are legal "supplements" many people aren't aware of. Often they're marketed as "pro hormones", but mostly all of them are genuine designer anabolic steroids. Keep in mind these will be pill form, so cycles are usually short. One thing I've learned from them is it's not a magic bullet. If your diet or training isn't on point, it's not worth messing with your hormones. You still have to put in the work. Also I don't know why someone on here said you have to "take estrogen" post cycle. That's ridiculous. There are post cycle drugs though, so do your research above all. Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The point that makes me laugh is so many people who are self proscribed "experts" and claim to have cycled, look like shyt and couldnt bench 250. So, as another poster said....Whats the point??? The main problem is three fold... 1) Yes, there are doctors who will prescribe it ..While its safer and you can assure that its pharmaceutical grade, you will never be able to get enough to make a difference...By law, they just cant give you enough to make a significant difference.. 2) So then if you decide to go the route of the underground, you are committing a felony, and the stuff they are selling is of dubious merit...Most is fake, and it can also be unsterile/tainted.....I know a guy that nearly had to have his leg amputated after a hideously ugly and disfiguring reaction after an injection..Wound up that the vial was contaminated...Most of the stuff in the black market is made in peoples basements with no care for cleanliness/sterility or potency..And the dealers dont offer refunds... 3) If you are lucky enough to secure stuff thats "good", then any gains you get(especially if you arent genetically gifted) are going to disappear the minute you go off...so be prepared to start to spend a mountain of money trying to not let your gains literally go down the toilet... Thats not to mention the negative sides...The worst arent even physical..Read about the amount of ex WWE wrestlers that have died and/or committed suicide..Its astounding..The more garden variety sides like pea sized testicles, gynecomastia, acne, etc..are also worth noting.. At the end of the day, just dont see the point.. TFY 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NGC1300 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Thats not to mention the negative sides...The worst arent even physical..Read about the amount of ex WWE wrestlers that have died and/or committed suicide..Its astounding Those kind of anecdotal stories don't have any weight. I've read into those cases, and more than half of them were abusing all sorts of psychoactive drugs. This is in addition to constantly getting their heads smashed into a pad. Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Those kind of anecdotal stories don't have any weight. I've read into those cases, and more than half of them were abusing all sorts of psychoactive drugs. This is in addition to constantly getting their heads smashed into a pad. If you think that steroids dont have serious psychological side effects, then you dont know anything about these drugs.... I have watched my own friends turn into people that were so different than they used to be, that just talking to them made me wonder if I was on the phone with someone else..I dont know if you are old enough, but some years ago, when it was pretty obvious that Roger Clemens was juicing, how he threw a broken bat at Mike Piazza? WHo the hell does that? And no one needs to be reminded how much of a douchebag Barry Bonds was....Funny how now he seems like a nice guy... Look at what happens to women when they are on their period...Many turn into...at best...emotional....at worst....jekyll and Hyde...same type of deal.. So, believe what you want....I dont have to accept what anyone on the net says and neither do you...I just see whats around me and draw my own conclusions...Im no dope.. TFY Edited January 5, 2015 by thefooloftheyear Link to post Share on other sites
NGC1300 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 If you think that steroids dont have serious psychological side effects, then you dont know anything about these drugs.... I have watched my own friends turn into people that were so different than they used to be, that just talking to them made me wonder if I was on the phone with someone else..I dont know if you are old enough, but some years ago, when it was pretty obvious that Roger Clemens was juicing, how he threw a broken bat at Mike Piazza? WHo the hell does that? And no one needs to be reminded how much of a douchebag Barry Bonds was....Funny how now he seems like a nice guy... Look at what happens to women when they are on their period...Many turn into...at best...emotional....at worst....jekyll and Hyde...same type of deal.. So, believe what you want....I dont have to accept what anyone on the net says and neither do you...I just see whats around me and draw my own conclusions...Im no dope.. TFY So where's all the pro bodybuilders smacking people around or dropping dead? I'm sorry, you are referencing anecdotal stories and have no proof steroids had anything to do with it. Not to mention a good many people fly off the handle every day and were never on steroids. But if they were, suddenly it's the steroids to blame. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 So where's all the pro bodybuilders smacking people around or dropping dead? Actually you would be surprised.... Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Actually you would be surprised.... https://www.google.com/search?q=died+from+steriod+abuse&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=died+from+steroid+abuse&spell=1 No good stories to tell on those pages, not one... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 So where's all the pro bodybuilders smacking people around or dropping dead? I'm sorry, you are referencing anecdotal stories and have no proof steroids had anything to do with it. Not to mention a good many people fly off the handle every day and were never on steroids. But if they were, suddenly it's the steroids to blame. You can believe what you want...Ive seen it first hand... This guy was actually someone I met several times...Great guy...Too bad he passed on way early.. UPDATE: MIKE MATARAZZO IS DEAD but BLAMED STEROIDS WHILE ALIVE! « Steroid Analysis I am sure you have heard the term "roid rage", no? Its real, I didnt make it up...Its the same reason that male animals get especially unpredictable during mating season..Heck, my yard is full of deer....During rut, I dont trust any of the males....they grunt, and can possibly charge...During the rest of the year, they are tame as a housecat...Its the exact same principle.. The thing that is most ironic is that most guys go on gear because they think it will help them get laid...Never does..Even if you come across as more attractive, you will immediately get rejected once they notice all the other crap that comes along with using... But do what you want....who cares what a bunch of people on the net say...Then you can decide if its right or wrong.. TFY Link to post Share on other sites
d0nnivain Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Under certain circumstances doctors prescribe steroid injections to help heal injuries. I have heard the maximum safe usage is 3 injections over a period of time. They are not a good idea in an otherwise healthy system. Link to post Share on other sites
Imported Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 There are forums devoted to this and you should read there. One I was reading gave out honest and unbiased information and not the anecdotal accounts I am seeing here. Not saying they were trying to convince people to take it or not take it. They just gave out good information, lots of which would probably convince people to not take it. Do you even lift OP? Personally, I would say steroids cannot be used safely if you're buying it black/grey market, not getting bloodwork done and know so little about it that your posting on loveshack's "fitness" boards to get informed. And unless you're planning to use it for the rest of your life, you're better off not using it at all. And why do you want to use steroids? For the admiration of women? Trust me, even if you're super skinny and find it difficult to put on lean size....you can and it'll be enough for most women. There are guys at my gym that are obviously on it and they don't do that well with women. Being huge is niche market, you're better off being fit and somewhat muscular for the majority share and you don't need steroids for that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NGC1300 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 https://www.google.com/search?q=died+from+steriod+abuse&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=died+from+steroid+abuse&spell=1 No good stories to tell on those pages, not one... Yes, died from ABUSE is right. You will notice that whenever illicit drugs are involved, many people refuse to make distinctions between use and abuse. Heroin, steroids; it's all the same to them. Link to post Share on other sites
NGC1300 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) You can believe what you want...Ive seen it first hand... This guy was actually someone I met several times...Great guy...Too bad he passed on way early.. UPDATE: MIKE MATARAZZO IS DEAD but BLAMED STEROIDS WHILE ALIVE! « Steroid Analysis I am sure you have heard the term "roid rage", no? Its real, I didnt make it up...Its the same reason that male animals get especially unpredictable during mating season..Heck, my yard is full of deer....During rut, I dont trust any of the males....they grunt, and can possibly charge...During the rest of the year, they are tame as a housecat...Its the exact same principle.. The thing that is most ironic is that most guys go on gear because they think it will help them get laid...Never does..Even if you come across as more attractive, you will immediately get rejected once they notice all the other crap that comes along with using... But do what you want....who cares what a bunch of people on the net say...Then you can decide if its right or wrong.. TFY You do realize that guy wasn't JUST taking steroids, right? He's on the record having used (and abused) growth hormone as well. FYI, growth hormone has a lot more potential nasty side effects than anabolic steroids. They are entirely different drugs. Roid rage? Not buying it. If you're an ill-tempered a-hole I can see steroids making you worse. I can see them making certain people cocky or arrogant. But to suggest they will take an otherwise level-headed person and turn them into a short-fused, violent person is just not true. That's media and soap opera drama. Also yes I've run a few cycles and know plenty of people who have. We never flew off the handle, broke out in acne, or had testicles turn to tic-tacs. Of course, this is just anecdotal, which is why I didn't originally bring it up. However I'll fully agree taking them to "get laid" is ridiculous. Nobody should touch steroids unless they've been training seriously for some years. Edited January 5, 2015 by NGC1300 Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 If you have to come on to Loveshack to ask questions about steroids, you should stay away from them. Questions on LoveShack or steroids? My only interaction beyond those rx'd for medical reasons was building tooling for a bodybuilding guru who designed and built his own line of machines when such was relatively new back in the 70's and 80's. When he was 'on his program' (his words), he was often very twitchy and it was difficult to interact with him on matters of design and construction. He also seemed a lot angrier, in general, while on the program. Maybe it was just more assertive but came across as unreasonably aggressive and unbusinesslike, compared to his customary demeanor. Like another local guy, Flex Wheeler, who later went on to more notable achievements, he was also skilled in martial arts and was who first introduced them to myself. Still, when 'on the program', I had to watch my words and actions because I really didn't know which way things would go and he certainly could have killed me if he wanted to. That said, being around drug use back then, mainly coke and MJ, steroid use wasn't anything out of the ordinary in and of itself, socially. I do often wonder what happened to Pete long-term though. People have their opinions about Flex's drug use but I never got a chance to see any effects personally. They were all young and apparently healthy back then. Like any external substance introduced into the body, there are risks and rewards. To the OP, do your due diligence and make a decision. It's your life. Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) You do realize that guy wasn't JUST taking steroids, right? He's on the record having used (and abused) growth hormone as well. FYI, growth hormone has a lot more potential nasty side effects than anabolic steroids. They are entirely different drugs. Roid rage? Not buying it. If you're an ill-tempered a-hole I can see steroids making you worse. I can see them making certain people cocky or arrogant. But to suggest they will take an otherwise level-headed person and turn them into a short-fused, violent person is just not true. That's media and soap opera drama. Also yes I've run a few cycles and know plenty of people who have. We never flew off the handle, broke out in acne, or had testicles turn to tic-tacs. Of course, this is just anecdotal, which is why I didn't originally bring it up. However I'll fully agree taking them to "get laid" is ridiculous. Nobody should touch steroids unless they've been training seriously for some years. If you never got any side effects, then its a pretty safe bet the stuff you took was actually bogus...Ive never heard of anyone that didnt have any side effects from legit stuff...Some worse than others, but nothing? Nah.....And practically all report shrunken testes.. Pound for pound, GH is actually safer than AAS.....Sorry, bud...I dont think you have your facts straight....But I give up...lol TFY Edited January 6, 2015 by thefooloftheyear Link to post Share on other sites
NGC1300 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) If you never got any side effects, then its a pretty safe bet the stuff you took was actually bogus...Ive never heard of anyone that didnt have any side effects from legit stuff...Some worse than others, but nothing? Nah.....And practically all report shrunken testes.. Pound for pound, GH is actually safer than AAS.....Sorry, bud...I dont think you have your facts straight....But I give up...lol TFY Strawn man argument. I never said I didn't have side effects. I experienced: Increased appetite Back pumps Lethargy Increased libido Increased endurance Increased strength Increased body weight Yes, it was most certainly bunk. It was all placebo. Apparently your position is unless someone experiences the negative side effects, the drug can't possibly be real. Ok, Nancy Reagan. Thanks indeed for "giving up". Edited January 6, 2015 by NGC1300 Link to post Share on other sites
Author endlessabyss Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 If you have to come on to Loveshack to ask questions about steroids, you should stay away from them. Well, I think after all the great feedback I got here I'm definitely going to go through with it now! Link to post Share on other sites
Rko28 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Wow I can't believe what I'm reading here! How about you just look at what food to eat to help you bulk up or get the body you need? Much safer, healthier and enjoyable experience. Steroids are bad news, look at all the wrestlers from the 90s, most of them dead due to heart failure because of use of them. Nothing, I repeat nothing, will be as good for you as a good well balanced diet and good work out routine. Please don't use them. Ever Link to post Share on other sites
PogoStick Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Are steroids some mystical drug that doesn't follow the rules of other drugs? No. Can steroids be used with relative safety? Yes. Can YOU use steroids safely? Unknown. edit: Note that currently about 11 million women in the US are taking steroids daily. aka progesterone, aka the birth control pill. Edited January 13, 2015 by PogoStick Link to post Share on other sites
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