Moose Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 I'm not meaning to preach here. Just a note to everyone, Easter should remind us all the Son of man has indeed risen from the dead and is alive today. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 Originally posted by Moose I'm not meaning to preach here. Easter should remind us all let me also remind you MOOSE, that not everyone is Christian. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Moose Posted March 27, 2005 Author Share Posted March 27, 2005 Excuse me [color=red][font=century gothic]ALPHA[/font][/color], Let me rephrase for your benefit then. Easter should remind all us Christians.......is that better for you? Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 Originally posted by Moose Excuse me [color=red][font=century gothic]ALPHA[/font][/color], Let me rephrase for your benefit then. Easter should remind all us Christians.......is that better for you? yes, thank you. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Moose Posted March 28, 2005 Author Share Posted March 28, 2005 I'd say you're welcome.........but, most people would've already understood I was speaking to fellow Christians. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 Originally posted by Moose I'd say you're welcome.........but, most people would've already understood I was speaking to fellow Christians. yeah i know i was just harassing you. even tho i am not christian i stll believe that Jesus was a prophet and a great man. Link to post Share on other sites
XNemesisX Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 Ditto. What is your religion Alpha? I'm just being nosey you don't have to answer. Link to post Share on other sites
greenhorn Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 Originally posted by YX32Nemesis Ditto. What is your religion Alpha? I'm just being nosey you don't have to answer. I think Non-Christian Link to post Share on other sites
skinut2234 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 boy Moose- For someone who appears to be religious- Kind of a bad way to snap back at someone- This is why I stay away from the whole thing- The people who are into it can rarely be nice to their neighbor. I choose to be more distant and live my life just being nice to others...... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Moose Posted April 14, 2005 Author Share Posted April 14, 2005 Originally posted by skinut2234 boy Moose- For someone who appears to be religious- Kind of a bad way to snap back at someone- This is why I stay away from the whole thing- The people who are into it can rarely be nice to their neighbor. I choose to be more distant and live my life just being nice to others...... Trust me, if you thought that was a bad way to snap back.....you should see me when I do get mad. What's the matter, don't you think that Christians have the right to get pissed too? Don't you think we have the right to face up to smart alecks? What.....are we supossed to be completley numb to the fact that people try to walk all over us.....I'm sorry....but you've been mis-guided if this is the way you think it's supposed to be. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Originally posted by Moose What's the matter, don't you think that Christians have the right to get pissed too? Don't you think we have the right to face up to smart alecks? What.....are we supossed to be completley numb to the fact that people try to walk all over us.....I'm sorry....but you've been mis-guided if this is the way you think it's supposed to be. Well MOOSE, I think everyone has a right to practice their religion and beliefs and be proud. I just think that people also need to be a bit sensitive of other faiths and remember that there are many belief systems out there of which none is better than the other. I mean, all religions basically preach the same message with some differences in the details. But we do need to keep in mind here that the only way all the different religous factions are going to get along is if the members respect the faiths of others. I think that all religions are good for people in moderation and that all religioins should be respected equally. I am a totally non-religious person myself but I do see the good in religion. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Moose Posted April 14, 2005 Author Share Posted April 14, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale Well MOOSE, I think everyone has a right to practice their religion and beliefs and be proud. I just think that people also need to be a bit sensitive of other faiths and remember that there are many belief systems out there of which none is better than the other. I mean, all religions basically preach the same message with some differences in the details. But we do need to keep in mind here that the only way all the different religous factions are going to get along is if the members respect the faiths of others. I think that all religions are good for people in moderation and that all religioins should be respected equally. I am a totally non-religious person myself but I do see the good in religion. I agree 110% Link to post Share on other sites
RecordProducer Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 When I first touched my BF's penis, it felt hard and thick and everything...I was thinking "OH, MY GOD!" Do you think god is mad at me for seeing him in my BF's dick? Link to post Share on other sites
Pocky Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Originally posted by RecordProducer When I first touched my BF's penis, it felt hard and thick and everything...I was thinking "OH, MY GOD!" Do you think god is mad at me for seeing him in my BF's dick? Link to post Share on other sites
Chris777 Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Originally posted by Moose I agree 110% I disagree completely. "Originally posted by alphamale I think everyone has a right to practice their religion and beliefs and be proud. I just think that people also need to be a bit sensitive of other faiths and remember that there are many belief systems out there of which none is better than the other. It is not a matter of better or worse it is a matter of truth and lie. I mean, all religions basically preach the same message with some differences in the details. I assume you are refering to evolution and reincarnation? seriously though have you looked carefully beyond the golden rule? On the surface They appear similar, with rules, and techings about how to act, and behave, however their is something extremely different about Jesus saying that he is the only way of salvation period. No If, no and, no also, no but, period. Many people preach peace and unity, but do not be decieved Jesus did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Note he brought it, and he shall use it as vengance belongs to God, not man. So dont assume I am speaking of being violent. But we do need to keep in mind here that the only way all the different religous factions are going to get along is if the members respect the faiths of others. I don't respect other "religions" any more or less than I respect a criminals parents ,blindly denying that he is innocent, wehn he was witnesses doing the crime, or even people who outright are duped into following some crackpot televangelist stealing the money of the poor telling them they are "sewing seeds" into the televangelist bank account. God will deal with them. and as for the parents, and women who write to prisoners and fall In love with them, as well as people blindly following a false religion or doctrine THEY ARE DECIEVED. As a Christian, I am not called to pat someone on the back and say good job, when they are blindly leading their friends into a pit. I am called to tell them the truth, and If they listen then Glory be to God. and If they do not, I am saddened, but I realize that many people will continue to return to their own vomit , no matter what you tell them or show them. Ultimately they will either believe the truth, or choose to remain in blindness to it. I am not going to endorse someone to stay In darkness. If you had been a passenger on the titanic back when the iceberg struck, and you KNEW it weas sinking, would you not tell them to get to a life boat? Or would you just allow them to go about their busness and stay in their own ignorance? The Bible never tells us to be at war with people, It tells us to hate the world. I am not going to endorse something that I hate. I hate abortion, but I can't stop it, I hate seeing people get taken advantage of, but all I can do is warn them, If they choose to continue in it, I cannto stand in their way. In the end It is God who changes the heart, and not man, but dont be decieved , and believe everything is God, and is of God, child molestation is not of God, rape is not of God. The thing about the bible Is it is consistent, God does not change. Yet how is it that all these different religions can be of an Immutable God, if they are diametrically opposed to each other on so many points? I think that all religions are good for people in moderation and that all religioins should be respected equally. I am a totally non-religious person myself but I do see the good in religion. Christianity at is core is NOT about morality, do not be fooled. You speak about religion as I once viewed it as a societal method of creating morality in the population. Faith without works is dead, I do not do good to prove anything, I do not do good to earn anything, I do good, because I KNOW with the very core of my being that the bible is TOTALLY TRUE, so therefore it will benefit someone because I believe it just as I believe in the very ground I walk on. Sin is like a row of dominoes Just one of my sins ends up toppling thousands of dominoes, their is no way I can personaly rectify them all, that is at its core what Jesus is, God Is going to clean up our mess soon, but not with water, but with Fire. Link to post Share on other sites
RecordProducer Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 I am not religious, but I don't see anything bad in what Moose did really. He didn't attack anyone. You have a right to love your faith. On the other hand, attacking him for loving his religion is a clear expression of intolerance! He didn't try to convert anyone into anything. Whoever is not Christian shouldn't be offended by another Christian talking about Easter and Jesus. Spirituality is included in the forum after all. People send me cards that say "Merry Christmas" and some catholic holidays that I don't even know of. I find it funny and cute, but not offensive. Even when Jehovah witnesses come at my door, I am not offended (I just want to get rid of them cuz they're wasting my time ). I respect your religion Alpha very much. Indian people are very peaceful. What I think of religion is my own business. Actually me joking about god is disrespectful, but I don't think people take me so seriously in that regard, because everyone believes that god is one so I don't insult any particular faith...just Mr. Godson. But he won't be mad at me cuz he doesn't login to LS. Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 The Bible never tells us to be at war with people, It tells us to hate the world Oh no it doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunner Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Has anyone ever noticed that the most widely known and quoted scripture from the Bible by unbelievers is the famous "judge not lest you be judged yourself" when a Christian makes a stand and says something is morally wrong or a sin. People don't understand that as a Christian we can judge the word or the deed and say that it is wrong by our moral standards and we are not judging the person individually as that is God's job. The Bible refers to believers as saints and says that the saints will judge angels. ie Satan and the other fallen angels. At least that is how I take it. Some of you other Christians correct me if I am wrong. Gunner Link to post Share on other sites
Gunner Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Originally posted by moimeme Oh no it doesn't. I think the person means hate the world as in worldly things, non Christian worldly values not the people of the world because we know that God loves the world so much that he sent his only Son to save it so He would never tell us to hate the people of the world. Romans 12:2 tells us "Do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind" Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 People don't understand that as a Christian we can judge the word or the deed and say that it is wrong by our moral standards and we are not judging the person individually You may not, Gunner, but there are plenty of people who call themselves 'Christian' who do just that. In spades. Hatefully. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunner Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Originally posted by moimeme You may not, Gunner, but there are plenty of people who call themselves 'Christian' who do just that. In spades. Hatefully. I agree with you moimeme. Their are a lot of hypocritical people who call themselves Christians. I hate it when people use hypocrits in the church as an excuse not to seek out God. We are all humans and sin. I'm sure I am hypocritical in some ways. Some people never recognize what they are doing and never change. Gunner Link to post Share on other sites
Chris777 Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Originally posted by moimeme Oh no it doesn't. 1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. John 12:25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. John 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. I don't hate people, I hate the things we have created, that lure many people into loving this place (the world) and the things that are here, more than loving God. The love of the world and the things of the world is like a mouse trap, in that it is a lure, and it can ,and does trap many and keep them from the truth, in that they be come so concerned with the doings of the world, that they have no concern of the world to come, as this world will eventually be totally consumed with fire , and everything in it destroyed. think of how ant poison works it is given to the drones to take into the anthill where it will kill the entire colony. its like a mob if you take a lynch mob they may all be chanting to kill, but if you seperate them from the crowd , you find that it is mostly people following the crowd to fit in, when in reality the majority don't want to perform the act the mob is purveying. Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 In the context of the rest of your post, I understood you to claim that the Bible told people to hate each other. But thanks for the quotes. I have a link to Bible Gateway too. Link to post Share on other sites
westernxer Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Originally posted by Chris777 its like a mob if you take a lynch mob they may all be chanting to kill, but if you seperate them from the crowd , you find that it is mostly people following the crowd to fit in, when in reality the majority don't want to perform the act the mob is purveying. Why do you think there is strength in numbers? We live in a society of pack rats... most humans, by nature, are gregarious. They want to be part of the status quo (they at least want to be a part of something). Jesus had his entourage, as did Moses, Muhammad, Buddha, Elvis, and the Beatles. Lynch mobs are no different. Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Why do you think there is strength in numbers? There is also weakness in numbers. People who might claim to have principles abandon them in order to gain acceptance by the rest of the herd. And the next thing you know, you have the SS. Link to post Share on other sites
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