How do people take steroids? Is it by pill or injection?

[Lonestar]

I need to know the answer to this. Anyone know? Anyone here ever take steroids?

[bubblygrl5]

At the risk of sounding like a SUPER NERD - I just learned today in class that hormones can be taken in pill form because they do not get degraded by the body and then go directly into the blood stream....

 

 

Bubbly

[Groovy]

Prescription steroids for things like allergies or hormones are usually given in a pill form. From what I have seen bodybuilders and people who do it illegally do it by injection typically.

[tanbark813]

Bodybuilders will/can do steroids either way, though it's generally more effective to do it via injection.

[westernxer]

Ever heard of the "cream" and the "clear?" Barry Bonds thought it was flaxseed oil, according to his leaked grand jury testimony. No need for needles or pills... just massage it into your skin like lotion.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by tanbark813

Bodybuilders will/can do steroids either way, though it's generally more effective to do it via injection.

 

Yeah, that's what I was talking about, but neglected to mention in my post - bodybuilders and illegal steriod use.

[tanbark813]

You lookin' to get swole, Lonestar?

[IhavenoFREAKINclue]

Did you know that illegal steroids are actually hormones they give to dogs. My ex used to take them and on the box had a picture of a dog. He said that they were used for animals. Ha, who knew?

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by tanbark813

You lookin' to get swole, Lonestar?

 

Hell no, Tanbark, but I recently discovered someone else I know is taking this path, and I'm a bit

 

Can you say "court date?"

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by IhavenoFREAKINclue

Did you know that illegal steroids are actually hormones they give to dogs. My ex used to take them and on the box had a picture of a dog. He said that they were used for animals. Ha, who knew?

 

I had a pharmacist tell me that they also use horse steroids. I think it's insane to play with your hormones and moods this way. Not to mention they can make you drop dead from a heart attack or brain aneuryism (sp?).

[tanbark813]

Ohhh, dang. Sorry to hear that.

[tiki]

Ah, how'd I know?

 

Oral and injectable. I don't know how they get their hands on the injectables though. I guess it's probably rather easy out on the streets, eh?

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by tiki

Ah, how'd I know?

 

Oral and injectable. I don't know how they get their hands on the injectables though. I guess it's probably rather easy out on the streets, eh?

 

Same way they get their hands on cocaine and other things. Supposedly, roids are rampant in gym environments.

[tiki]

Eh, two words:

 

Small weenies.

[westernxer]

Hell, you can order them off the Internet, or just take a trip to Mexico, where you can get them for cheap.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by tiki

Eh, two words:

 

Small weenies.

 

not too metion "Mr. Softie"

[westernxer]

I know people who have taken steroids, and, yes, they work great, but you have to do them in cycles. Guys on my football team used to do them, and I couldn't believe how strong they'd gotten in such a short period of time. Also, their muscular development was incredible. They'd put on all this weight that they chiseled into mountains of muscle. It made it nearly impossible to compete with them as far as strength was concerned. Almost unfair, but it's happening in professional baseball and football, too.

[miggsbucks]

lonestar, i just wondered what you thought of this, p.s how are you doin as well? lol

my current scenario

sorry for not commenting here, promise i will do, it was just lonestars last post

[Bigmo]

hi tankbark i got a question where can i get some steriods i am looking to buy and what kind should i get u think for me i am 6 2 280 starting linemen for a football team center heh so can u tell me what kind i should get info please thanks

[yuv]

Saw this thread and wanted to clear up some misinformation, nothing personal but a lot of this info posted here is... Not quite right.

 

I also wanted to add, FWIW, that some guys have to take steroids. In fact, I use (anabolic) steroids by prescription for a legit medical condition.

 

There are two types of steroids, generally speaking. Anabolic and catabolic. Catabolic are prescribed for allergies and given in pill form. Anabolic steroids are those abused by athletes and used for building muscle and replacing Testosterone in deficient men, such as in cases of premature andropause.

 

The most common prescription steroid is Testosterone Cypionate, followed by Testosterone Enanthate. A steroid user will use a long-acting Testosterone and inject it once a week for a short acting form, and once every two weeks for longer forms. The different forms also require different amounts to inject. Illegal steroids could conceivably be earmarked for animal use (though equine, not canine) and redirected by a vet. More often than not, illegal steroids are prescription steroids intended for human use written by unethical health professionals (it's simply more common). And maybe you have heard about a guy buying steroids in Mexico? There's about a 99% chance that it's pure Sesame oil he's injecting -- he's been scammed.

 

Preferred dosing is in the form of an intramuscular injection given in the side of either thigh with an IM needle (if you're curious, a large needle works well because the steroid, usually Testosterone, is in a suspension of oil, and that takes a lot of time to push through a small needle. A 20 guage needle is fine. 18 will hurt a bit but the injection will go faster. 22 will hurt very little but the injection will take forever.) Alternate injection sites include the deltoid of either arm, and the gluteus, though this one is painful.

 

Anabolic steroids do not go directly to the bloodstream when taken orally. Male hormones _can_ be taken orally but their first pass is liver clearance. They are VERY damaging to the liver, and oral prescriptions (such as for Testosterone Undecanoate) are no longer given. Steroids also come in the form of gels and creams, but these must be used daily and therefore are not well tolerated by most who have to use the drug, because Testosterone levels drop back to what they were within 24 hours. Bonds knew d*ned well what he was doing.

 

Remember those oral supplements? They became illegal as of January, 2005. The one Mark McGuire claimed to use, the supplement Androstenedione, is a steroid precursor. It converts to a little Testosterone and, ironcially, a lot of Estrogen! I must emphasize the precursors are not steroids. Precursors are much worse for the user's liver. A chemist named Patrick Arnold had recently (2002, I think?) created a supplement called 1-AD that avoided liver damage and converted entirely to Testosterone, but 1) it was not Testosterone but a precursor, 2) it had no dosing information, and 3) it had some abuse potential, because it removes a physician's supervision and proper monitoring from the picture!

 

Testosterone converts to Estrogen in a man via a process called aromatization. Testosterone users will experience water retention typically within the first half dozen injections, unless they take 1) something to block the conversion from Test to Estrogen, called an "Aromatase Inhibitor," or 2) something to block the binding of Estrogen in the body, so that it still converts, but the body doesn't use it. Both drugs, such as (1) Arimidex or (2) Tamoxifen are used also in breast cancer so that cancer cells that depend on Estrogen to thrive don't get it.

 

There are steroids for human and animal use that do not aromatize into Estrogen at all. These steroids are not Testosterone but chemically similar and bodybuilders will go to great lengths to get them, as they don't need drugs to kill the Estrogen.

 

Using steroids requires cycling, as has been pointed out here accurately. If you are a normal male taking steroids, they will eventually shut your natural production down. This is usually the case with athletes. They will inject once a week for three or four weeks, then stop for one or two weeks. The reason for this is that exogenous (outside the body) Testosterone will inhibit other hormones necessary to keep a healthy set of testicles working!

 

This leads into the next thing... Testicular atrophy. The testicles will indeed get smaller. Penis size will typically increase, though only marginally. Testosterone makes testicles shrink because it suppresses what is called the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis. The penis doesn't have that going on, and will return to it's pre-anabolic steroid size shortly after steroids are discontinued. Again, the size gain is negligent and it's no reason to do steroids.

 

If Testosterone levels in the blood are checked, and a male is maintaining a range between 600 and 1,000, things will be fine, and no behavioral changes would be expected. Above the therapeutic range, which is 1,100 nanograms per deciliter of blood, you'd start to see irrational anger that "hijacks" the user, confrontation behavior, a short fuse, etc.

 

Anabolic steroids even administered on the high side will not cause heart problems or brain aneurisms. Test can cause an increase in both LDL and HDL, and if this increase in bad cholesterol is not dealt with, it can lead to heart disease or stroke (but then, a LOT of things can also increase bad cholesterol). Test in excess can cause severe acne, stretch marks (rapid muscle size increases), and in some men, baldness (because Test can convert to DHT, or DihydroTestosterone, which causes hair loss), male breast formation (gynecomastia), increased blood pressure (stroke risk), and sodium retention (bllod pressure, kidney problems). None of them worth any gains in muscle mass.

 

As for size gains, guys taking Testosterone only need a little time in the gym to make tremendous gains. The thing is, since muscle fatigue takes longer to happen and the muscle repair process (all of us build muscle by making microscopic tears, which heal) is much faster, guys on anabolic steroids feel fine lifting twice as long as they used to, every single day. Even guys like me, taking it as a prescription, make quick gains. An added factor is that Test will speed up metabolism and seriously speed up fat loss, so that muscular appearance (despite some water weight gain due to Estrogen) happens fast.

 

The complication: stop lifting or doing anything athletic, or stop the Test, and within a few short months -- I'm talking about four -- and the muscles will go away. It's like trying to fill a bucket with water, and the bucket's got a big hole in the bottom.

 

There are few legit medical uses for Test, and believe me when I say that I wish I never had to do this -- I'd prefer not to have what I have because injecting Test just sucks. What I have to deal with isn't worth it. I've been using Test on and off for over five years now and I hate to have to think that I will need a shot every 11 days (roughly) for about another 9 or 10 years.