Mangina Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I'm considering a rhinoplasty to reduce the size of my nose, jaw implants to make my jaw more manly and less childish looking, a skin peel and juvederm/sculptra injections. How is your facial hair, can you grow a beard? Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I'm considering a rhinoplasty to reduce the size of my nose, jaw implants to make my jaw more manly and less childish looking, a skin peel and juvederm/sculptra injections. That is not going to sort out your head and your panic attacks, is it? Do not go down the plastic surgery route until you are in a better place mentally. Surgery can go spectacularly wrong and then where would you be? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Sarabi Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 So let's say I'm 5'8" and she's 5'4" but wears pretty tall heels, she'll write-off the 5'8" guy because of this. Some times in dating profiles I see, "Must be taller than me...in my heels!" Just like those funny surveys ranging from Strongly Agree to Strongly Disagree...I somewhat disagree with what you said. Tall heels can be REALLY uncomfortable. No joke, if the heel is more than 4 or 4.5 inches then really, its difficult to walk and gives you leg pain. I am 5'3"...so consider myself lucky because even in heels, a 5'8" guy is about my height in the heels(if not slightly taller). That is me personally though. I wouldn't write him off. On the other hand, if she is turning you down because of your height but she can't even walk in her silly shoes...would you want her anyway? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Moy Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Just the fact that you are considering taking these steps to become more successful with women shows your deep insecurities. Your insecurities are why you fail with women not your jaw, nose, or even your height. My insecurities stem from negative feedback about my appearance (from girls) going back to my teens. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
True Gent Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 My insecurities stem from negative feedback about my appearance (from girls) going back to my teens. Have you ever been in a relationship? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Moy Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Have you ever been in a relationship? Two. Both cheated and left me for better men. Didn't lose my virginity until I was 24. Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Two. Both cheated and left me for better men. Didn't lose my virginity until I was 24. They may be both cheated on you yes, but leaving you for "better" men I doubt that. Anyone who is willing to go behind your back and sleep with your gf is NOT a better man. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Just the fact that you are considering taking these steps to become more successful with women shows your deep insecurities. Your insecurities are why you fail with women not your jaw, nose, or even your height. My insecurities stem from negative feedback about my appearance (from girls) going back to my teens. Exactly. Men become insecure because they have struggled with women. No guys start insecure. All boys pretty much start with a clean slate on how confident they are. Some boys have physical or other traits about them (like good at sports, or being popular) that the girls like and those boys go on to date and develop confidence. Other boys have traits that girls don't like, those boys don't date and they don't develop the confidence. Essentially things become easier for the men who have confidence and harder for the men who don't. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
AD1980 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Height is very important to women lets not be overly PC..Some won't care or will tolerate a short man but no women's ideal is a short man but not all women can get a good looking tall man.. As far as surgery I was thinking of getting a nose job as we'll.. People on here like to pretend it's how confident you are not how you look but the truth is to get your foot in the door with a member of the opposite sex she has to be at least somewhat physically attracted to you or you have no chance.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 No. Your insecurities were there before you got any feedback from women, or else you would just let that stuff go. I know some pretty ugly dudes that know they are ugly dudes, and they still live their life without the serious insecurities that you display here. More signs of insecurity. It doesn't matter what kind of crazy cosmetic surgery you have planned for your face, it won't help you with women. You are chasing women away with your attitude, not your face. You are better looking than I am, and I have a GF. Try being friend zoned by every girl you meet. Even the girls who are not conventionally attractive. You know the guy they cry to when something goes wrong? that's me. I have very good social skills, I just need to spark some kind of physical attraction. I have only had 2 girlfriends. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Moy Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Mangina's last two posts are right on the money. Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Mangina's last two posts are right on the money. Thanks man the reason I asked if you could grow a beard is because it covers weak jawlines and double chins. A lot of girls like beards I see it on their profile. My facial hair is very thin scraggly and patchy so I can grow a good beard. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Moy Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Thanks man the reason I asked if you could grow a beard is because it covers weak jawlines and double chins. A lot of girls like beards I see it on their profile. My facial hair is very thin scraggly and patchy so I can grow a good beard. I can grow a beard but they are itchy, mine is grey and I don't really want to look like a hipster in my 40s! Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I can grow a beard but they are itchy, mine is grey and I don't really want to look like a hipster in my 40s! Not the big hipster beard a gentleman's beard like Ben afflek you can just use the grey away color stuff 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Moy Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 They may be both cheated on you yes, but leaving you for "better" men I doubt that. Anyone who is willing to go behind your back and sleep with your gf is NOT a better man. Let's not label all of the men rats here, a common tactic of cheating girlfriends is to play the abused partner/already split, honest!/he's a psycho stalker ex who won't leave me alone card in order to get the other man to white knight her into bed. A few friends of mine have been stung by this particular tactic and would in no way have slept with them had they have known the truth of their relationship status. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Moy Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Height is very important to women lets not be overly PC..Some won't care or will tolerate a short man but no women's ideal is a short man but not all women can get a good looking tall man.. As far as surgery I was thinking of getting a nose job as we'll.. People on here like to pretend it's how confident you are not how you look but the truth is to get your foot in the door with a member of the opposite sex she has to be at least somewhat physically attracted to you or you have no chance.. We have a winner, folks! Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 We have a winner, folks! And that's just some girls. Other girls like the girls on dating sites will not give you the time of day if you are not a stud Link to post Share on other sites
DukeNukem47 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I agree that height is extremely important to women. At best, it's tolerated and, at worst, it's a deal breaker. Looks are a close second. However, in my opinion, cosmetic surgery is crazy and way too risky. I'd rather never get laid again than get plastic surgery on my face or have my legs broken for a few inches. But that's just me. Another (more viable) option is to take medications that will get you out of your depression and, as a side effect, kill your sex drive. This way, you'll be really happy all the time and won't care what women think about you. Link to post Share on other sites
guest569 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 being short is an utter death knell. Women refuse to even acknowledge a man as a human being if he's under 5ft 10. I learned all this through two years of old. youre not short. Link to post Share on other sites
guest569 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Kind of insulting to actual short people who really do struggle because of the fact they're 3-4 ft tall. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Toodaloo Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 My experiences on POF over the past two year say otherwise. "Don't even message me unless you're at least 5ft 10." "Every time I see your profile pic, it makes me sick. Grosssssss" "Don't message me unless you're attractive. You're not attractive, so don't message me." "You just look so weak compared to most other men." "LOL you're a shortarse PMSL" "Yeah, I get told that all the time, usually by better looking men than you, so there's no point in you messaging me, really, is there?" A brief selection of the kind of messages that I receive due to my appearance. Want me to go on? Moy The women (I really don't want to call them that...) who sent these messages are clearly bitter and vile. I am sorry but no matter where you go there will always be people like this. You don't need work on your nose. Your nose is just fine as it is. You have a lovely handsome chizeled jaw, gorgeous eyes and as I keep telling you that smile is just amazing! As for the comments about you being weak... tell me again what the total amount of lbs you were lifting the other day was? That is far from weak. You are going out and confronting your fears, that is far from weak. Please start liking yourself more and giving yourself a chance. Going out on a busy Saturday night when you have enormous problems with your confidence and panic attacks is NOT going to help you. What about going out on a quieter night for an hour first? Start small and build up. Think of it in the same terms as your body building. You couldn't go straight in and lift enormous weights. You had to build up to that. So this is you starting at the beginning. You have to go easy at first or you will do yourself an injury and be set back. 1. you are not short 2. you are not ugly 3. you are not weak 4. you do not need to accept comments like this from nasty people! 5. would you really want to date such vile women anyway? I certainly would not give women or men who spoke to others in such a way the time of day. I am off to read the rest of the thread. But I will be back. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Toodaloo Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Going to see a cosmetic surgeon in town later (open on Sundays) about getting some work done. Going to ask some gymheads about where I can get hold of some testosterone and dianabol. So.....plastic surgery and steroids are required just to get something nicer than 'Ewww, f*** off!' from a woman. It begs the question why I'm attracted to a species so shallow and spiteful in the first place. No no no no and in case you did not read that - NO! Moy this is NOT the way. Still not finished reading. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Toodaloo Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Two. Both cheated and left me for other men. Seriously Moy. I think what you need to do is concentrate on your lack of confidence and also change the people around you. Anyone living with this sort of negativity all the time will go mad! You need to find good people, people who are not going to treat others this way. Get yourself out of the damned gutter. This all sounds like an episode of Eastenders. I haven't spent much time up north but I have never known people to be this way. Whenever I have been up there the people have been welcoming, friendly and in general lovely. With just a few a-holes mixed in for good measure. This says to me that you are meeting the wrong sort of people and going to the wrong sort of places. People who are good and nice avoid people who are bastards (no matter what sex), its how you end up with the rough bars and pubs. Hence you need to go where the better people are going to meet them. Bad People are the ones who; Make negative comments about others Druggies Alcoholics People who start fights People who are selfish People who are spiteful Good People are the ones who; Make positive comments about others Enjoy life and smile Don't over do it on the booze etc Walk away from fights Are generous with time and other resources that they may have Don't hold any truck with nasty people and walk away If you get a whiff of nasty behavior walk away from it no matter what the sex or who it is from. Do not get involved in it do not accept it. Move on and go somewhere else. You do not have to accept this from anyone. You do not have to spend your time with this. How about this weekend seeing if your mates will out out for a meal and a couple of beers in a quieter pub, perhaps not one in the city, but try one in an outlying village for a change? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Winston_Smith Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Hello, LSers. I'm new here. I'm kind of in the same boat of as you, Moy. I opened up to someone whom I felt very compatible with. We share the same interest, we laugh at the same things, we share similar views with regards to politics and religion, and more importantly we just love each other's company. We only differ in that she likes to workout at the gym, while I don't. Her response to me was, while she likes me as a friend, I'm not the type she'd "mate" with. Yes, she used the word "mate." Read more about it here if you'd like. Then she proceeds to describe her ideal reproductive partner: an Alpha type, taller than 5'8," dark and with facial hair. None of which describes me. I wanted to die right there and then. I can't control the physical traits I'm born with! Having to listen to that was very emasculating and is taking a toll on my self-esteem. Alas, I've no advice to give. But, know that you're alone in this struggle. Link to post Share on other sites
Toodaloo Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Her response to me was, while she likes me as a friend, I'm not the type she'd "mate" with. Yes, she used the word "mate." Read more about it here if you'd like. Then she proceeds to describe her ideal reproductive partner: an Alpha type, taller than 5'8," dark and with facial hair. None of which describes me. I wanted to die right there and then. I can't control the physical traits I'm born with! Hi Winston. First off welcome. Second did she think you were a horse or a dog or something? Perhaps she should just nip down to the sperm bank instead of dating? Sorry but you have to laugh that she is referring herself to some sort of farm yard animal by talking like that! Poor you but thank goodness you dodged that bullet! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
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