StanMusial Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 My point being is that I am guessing many basic preferences as regards body type are influenced by the people a person grows up with, and the people they admire and respect. I grew up with three sisters and I can honestly say I never thought of them in comparison to anyone I ever dated or considered dating, in terms of their height or weight or body type. I know that it helped me in gauging women's behaviors though from an early age. Seeing how they acted around the various guys who came sniffing around and their bf's and whatnot. I never really thought about it too much and it's a topic for another thread anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Yep..its primal... Just like a 65 lb "low to the ground" pit bull, looks wayyyy more intimidating than a 100 lb + Great Dane... But the point is this... Some men have a "Commanders" presence...And it has nothing to do with height or even size...A 6'3" guy can give off a vibe that he couldnt chase a kitty cat off the porch, while a 5'4" guy can make you feel like you would survive a rampage from a group of marauding beasts...Its about confidence and self assuredness...the capability to be quick on their feet.. Without ever having to have had to actually prove it...And women pick up on this stuff.. TFY 1 Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 i don't share that opinion. i'm 5'10 and have never really felt "safe" with a short guy, i always feel like i have to be more aware because i won't be able to rely on them if i needed to. my brother is 6'4 and looks like a linebacker - he's a huge guy - when i walk down a street with him he looks imposing and that makes me feel safe, because who is going to approach him and cause trouble? height/body frame on a guy definitely makes me feel safer. i work with a guy so short and petite he looks like tinkerbell (seriously) - who is he going to protect? what women will feel safe with him? i asked him to kill a bug for me once and he picked it up and took it outside, lol. i still tease him about that 4 years later, and 4 years later he's still girlfriendless. My husband is 6'4 and straping, he will take a bug outside and free it also. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ethan78 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 We are sexually attracted to who we are sexually attracted to, you cannot change your core preferences any more than I can. I doubt this is true. I have been attracted to petite women, then years later to taller women. I have been attracted to slim women, but now only like curvy women. I have been attracted to dark skinned brunettes, but now it doesn't bother me at all if they are pale and blonde. I think if we made an effort to change these "core preferences" we could probably influence them, but that would require effort against our egos which always seems to be difficult in life. Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Taking a bug outside and freeing it is actually a good thing to do. Killing little bugs is not the sign of an alpha man. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RedRobin Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 um do you mind if I ask your measurements including cup size? this is just for research purposes 32-34 B, depending on the bra. I'm built like a dancer/runner... Like this. http://media.tumblr.com/c4d7a6b28f7c0d20cb7a114a22ca8e7a/tumblr_inline_mfe3fuRXIO1qaeee7.jpg ... and to stay on topic... there is at least one guy on this thread who would say I'm too skinny or muscular *shrug*. That's ok. I've never been attracted to heavier men, or even men with pudge, a belly, or are 'soft'. Height has never been a variable to me... but fitness is. I'd take a 5'-6" in shape guy over a 6'+ skinny/heavy/soft guy any day. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
SolG Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 As one of the other posters wrote, I think it's about attraction. I've never had a partner under 6', but not by conscious effort. I certainly have never gone around actively discounting men based on height. It's just turned out that way because now that I think about it, I'm largely attracted to taller men. And I've never connected with someone I'm not attracted to. I think it has a biological behaviour basis. We are partially still a tournament species looking for the best prospect to produce strong, healthy progeny with. And as in all tournament species, there will be a (laregly innate) set of biological criteria that indicate the probability of successfully achieving this with a given partner. For men, the almost universal attractiveness of waist to hip ratio is part of this. For a lot of women, relative height is similar. But of course we are evolved, so socialisation and thought come into the process. But it is hard to argue with base level attraction! Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 As one of the other posters wrote, I think it's about attraction. I've never had a partner under 6', but not by conscious effort. I certainly have never gone around actively discounting men based on height. It's just turned out that way because now that I think about it, I'm largely attracted to taller men. And I've never connected with someone I'm not attracted to. I think it has a biological behaviour basis. We are partially still a tournament species looking for the best prospect to produce strong, healthy progeny with. And as in all tournament species, there will be a (laregly innate) set of biological criteria that indicate the probability of successfully achieving this with a given partner. For men, the almost universal attractiveness of waist to hip ratio is part of this. For a lot of women, relative height is similar. But of course we are evolved, so socialisation and thought come into the process. But it is hard to argue with base level attraction! lol yeah okay. You all of a sudden just noticed now that you only dated taller men? Link to post Share on other sites
contact1 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Taking a bug outside and freeing it is actually a good thing to do. Killing little bugs is not the sign of an alpha man. I like to exert my dominance by squishing every single spider in my household But on a serious note, how is picking up a bug and taking it outside considered "weak"? I mean there are some bugs I do kill (like the spiders or ants), but there are others I don't kill and actually take out (crickets would be the main one) due to them being completely harmless and most likely just having gotten into the home due to a door being left open. Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I like to exert my dominance by squishing every single spider in my household But on a serious note, how is picking up a bug and taking it outside considered "weak"? I mean there are some bugs I do kill (like the spiders or ants), but there are others I don't kill and actually take out (crickets would be the main one) due to them being completely harmless and most likely just having gotten into the home due to a door being left open. I take crickets outside too. Also ladybugs. When I see a spider I always kill it though. Link to post Share on other sites
MissBee Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Yeah, that's why women always go for the most attractive guys for casual sex. Women know what's attractive, but sometimes due to different things they have to make exceptions in relationships on some things even if they really don't want to. False. Women go for men they are attracted to. Who they are attracted to may not necessarily be "the most attractive guy", whatever that even means. This argument gets rehashed over and over and it's still not understood so I know this will make no difference, but just to say it again with the hope that some confused person gets it: women sleep with men they are attracted to. Period. This attraction is not solely about a man being the best looking, but how he makes her feel, other things about him like how he carries himself, the way he smells, how he looks at her, the way he touches her, the quality of his voice that makes something inside her melt, all of which can be unexplainable and not something she logically thinks about. While of course a really hot guy can inspire those feelings, this is not THE ONLY man who can do that. Women can feel that primal desire to rip a man's clothes off and have sex with him even if he isn't the conventional idea of the most attractive. Edited February 22, 2015 by MissBee 2 Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 False. Women go for men they are attracted to. Who they are attracted to may not necessarily be "the most attractive guy", whatever that even means. This argument gets rehashed over and over and it's still not understood so I know this will make no difference, but just to say it again with the hope that some confused person gets it: women sleep with men they are attracted to. Period. This attraction is not solely about a man being the best looking, but how he makes her feel, other things about him like how he carries himself, the way he smells, how he looks at her, the way he touches her, all of which can be explainable. While of course a really hot guy can inspire those feelings, this is not THE ONLY man who can do that. Women can feel that primal desire to rip a man's clothes off and have sex with him even if he isn't the conventional idea of the most attractive. The women in the casual sex thread already admitted they have sex with their ideal looking guy for casual sex. Than said they overlook some things for relationships if they have similar life interests & goals, and good career etc. What I take from that is the women are having relationships with guys that are not as attractive as their casual sex partners. Link to post Share on other sites
SolG Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 lol yeah okay. You all of a sudden just noticed now that you only dated taller men? No, that's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that I've never even really thought about the why. We (or at least me anyway) look for someone we ARE, not who we're NOT attracted to. If that makes sense. That I'm yet to be attracted to someone less than 6' does not mean I won't, or can't be in the future. But it does probably point to a biological preference; which isn't everything. Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 No, that's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that I've never even really thought about the why. We (or at least me anyway) look for someone we ARE, not who we're NOT attracted to. If that makes sense. That I'm yet to be attracted to someone less than 6' does not mean I won't, or can't be in the future. But it does probably point to a biological preference; which isn't everything. Perhaps. But how come there's some women that don't care about height at all? It's weird how some women are neutral on it, while so many more than not have their precise preference for it. Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) No, that's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that I've never even really thought about the why. We (or at least me anyway) look for someone we ARE, not who we're NOT attracted to. If that makes sense. That I'm yet to be attracted to someone less than 6' does not mean I won't, or can't be in the future. But it does probably point to a biological preference; which isn't everything. That's good because due to numbers, 14.5% of men 6' or over (that's all of them including unattractive faces) you may never get one. Edited February 22, 2015 by Mangina Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 That's good because due to numbers, 14.5% of men 6' or over (that's all of them including unattractive faces) you may never get one. I'm genuinely still wondering what all these women are doing to get their tall man if there's not enough of them to go around. To me if they prefer a tall guy, and don't get it, than their settling. Than I hear, there's other stuff that goes into it than just height. Than why do they say they prefer a tall guy than? The logic doesn't make sense if it doesn't matter all that much for a relationship to them. Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I'm genuinely still wondering what all these women are doing to get their tall man if there's not enough of them to go around. To me if they prefer a tall guy, and don't get it, than their settling. Than I hear, there's other stuff that goes into it than just height. Than why do they say they prefer a tall guy than? The logic doesn't make sense if it doesn't matter all that much for a relationship to them. I think what they are trying to say is they would like their man to be 6' but that's not that big of a deal. Dating sites say otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 In my opinion (and I grew up in a country with a ridiculously high crime rate, so I have a fairly good idea of what I'm talking about), the three things that ACTUALLY matter most for safety are: 1) Caution/wisdom - some places and times and situations are riskier than others. Just avoid them if at all possible 2) Money - sad but true, being able to afford a decent place in a good, low-crime neighbourhood makes a huge difference. Same goes with not having to take a late night shift in a seedy location or a high risk occupation just to stay afloat 3) Observational skills/knowledge/quick thinking All of the above will benefit one's safety far more than having a big man as one's partner (or, conversely, being a big man). That being said, I think this argument is frequently dredged up just to try and bash women's preferences. Which is really quite silly. People are entitled to their own preferences, full stop. Every single man and woman has preferences, and bashing other people for their preferences just because they exclude you is really not an attractive trait, and is exceptionally hypocritical when you consider your own preferences to be 'more valid' than theirs. Perhaps. But how come there's some women that don't care about height at all? It's weird how some women are neutral on it, while so many more than not have their precise preference for it. Just like how some men don't care about breast size and some men do. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I think what they are trying to say is they would like their man to be 6' but that's not that big of a deal. Dating sites say otherwise. Well forget OLD sites. It's not worth being on there for a guy that's shorter than 5'9". Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Well forget OLD sites. It's not worth being on there for a guy that's shorter than 5'9". i don't think 5'9" cuts it's like I told you my roommate is 5'9" and very handsome and his experience was dissatisfactory. His ex girl friends were prettier than the girls he met from okcupid. He deleted his profile. It's like the girls on the other thread told you, online dating is the worst. It's full of girls who want somebody more attractive than themselves. That's what it is. Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 i don't think 5'9" cuts it's like I told you my roommate is 5'9" and very handsome and his experience was dissatisfactory. His ex girl friends were prettier than the girls he met from okcupid. He deleted his profile. It's like the girls on the other thread told you, online dating is the worst. It's full of girls who want somebody more attractive than themselves. That's what it is. Yeah pretty much. I remember I was on there a long time ago & than made another profile awhile later. And I seen a huge amount of the same women still on there. There's obviously something going on for a lot of the same women to still be on there after so long. Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Yeah pretty much. I remember I was on there a long time ago & than made another profile awhile later. And I seen a huge amount of the same women still on there. There's obviously something going on for a lot of the same women to still be on there after so long. Sleep good knowing 85.5% of them won't find their prince charming and it will all come crashing down when they hit their mid thirties and suddenly the quality of men messaging them takes a downturn. Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Sleep good knowing 85.5% of them won't find their prince charming and it will all come crashing down when they hit their mid thirties and suddenly the quality of men messaging them takes a downturn. lol well I mean I have nothing against them or anything. But a lot of women just can't seem to ever admit that they have just as high of standards that men do. It definitely goes both ways. But it always starts an argument every time. Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 lol well I mean I have nothing against them or anything. But a lot of women just can't seem to ever admit that they have just as high of standards that men do. It definitely goes both ways. But it always starts an argument every time. Don't even worry about it, just let them screw themselves while you find a real girl who does not use a dating sites or loveshack lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites
StanMusial Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I've been looking at this forum for a couple of years now. Much of what I have read is based around online dating. Which makes sense, given that it's an online forum about "relationships". But this is where you have to be careful about the ideas and advice you read on here. I mean, I've seen women post on here about how they have had over 100 dates in a year with different suitors. That's just one example of the disconnect with reality. I mean, how many women are walking around with a yardstick? Unless a guy is obviously outside the norm in some way I don't see this as an issue. If he chooses the OLD route, well expect to see any number of fickle requirements. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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