DukeNukem47 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yes, but than why don't women just stop saying they want a tall guy than if it's not anywhere near the most important thing? Why can't they say they want a handsome guy with a good personality? It's always "tall, dark & handsome". And than of course a good job is a big plus to a lot of women since they don't want a bum or a guy that makes 20 grand a year. Women would easily take a man that is tall, dark, and handsome over a guy with a good job. Now that women can make their own money, they don't really care about stability. Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yes, but than why don't women just stop saying they want a tall guy than if it's not anywhere near the most important thing? Why can't they say they want a handsome guy with a good personality? It's always "tall, dark & handsome". And than of course a good job is a big plus to a lot of women since they don't want a bum or a guy that makes 20 grand a year. Because society puts this fairy tale in their heads, who cares just let them die alone Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I believe that OLD reflects the unspoken real world views of women. It is representative of all women. Again, as I stated, I believe that women SETTLE for shorter men when they realize (consciously or not) that tall men are out of their league or if they simply don't meet any of them. I think as OLD becomes the norm for dating, you will see less and less people getting married, simply because women will have more increasing access to sleep with tall men that may or may not be already married. lol that might be a bit extreme to say. But you do have some point in that why is it when the women all of a sudden go on OLD their standards become way higher? Link to post Share on other sites
DukeNukem47 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 lol that might be a bit extreme to say. But you do have some point in that why is it when the women all of a sudden go on OLD their standards become way higher? Their standards were already extremely high. They were just trying to be PC. Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Because society puts this fairy tale in their heads, who cares just let them die alone Well, but it's pretty much hard for most people to find a good match. That's why relationships more often than not don't work out. And half of marriages end. Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I wholeheartedly disagree with this. Height matters more than all of these, by far. If it didn't, you would see more mismatched couples height-wise, yet just about every couple features a man that taller than the woman. There's a reason for this. It's the #1 preference from women, without question. Dude in real life, not loveshack or match.com, the guys with the pretty faces get the girls who are shorter than them. I see it every day, face,, muscles, money, game (which let's be honest is usually an arrogant, self centered liar) wins. Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Women would easily take a man that is tall, dark, and handsome over a guy with a good job. Now that women can make their own money, they don't really care about stability. Yeah realistically you're right there as long as the woman herself had a good job. So of course they would take their ideal man over the guy with a good job. As long as he has a good personality as well. Money wouldn't matter in that case. Link to post Share on other sites
DukeNukem47 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Here's a good story for this thread. I'm a (barely) late 20s 5'6 guy with a reasonably attractive (so I'm told face), intelligence, reasonably good social skills, and a good job with a 6 figure income. (As an aside, job and income doesn't matter at all UNLESS you use that income to buy something that signifies high status....you heard it hear first, folks.) Anyway, I have frequently gone to clubs over the past several years. I put a lot of time into learning the dynamics and how to approach women. I have also taken hip hop dance classes and I'm a very good dancer. In addition, I've built up multiple connections at these clubs (bouncers, owners, bar tenders, etc). I do WAY better in clubs than the average guy. However, my tall friends are able to just waltz right in, put in no work, suck at dancing, and get whatever girls they want. I mean you can't buy these kinds of responses. The sole exception is when I take out my good friend's Lamborghini and stand outside of it hitting on women. Women assume it's mine and that I'm SUPER rich (multi-millionaire). Then, they don't care about my height as much. Go figure. Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Height maybe number 1 but for the realistic it means taller than them. Note I said the realistic, not the online daters. Link to post Share on other sites
DukeNukem47 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Dude in real life, not loveshack or match.com, the guys with the pretty faces get the girls who are shorter than them. I see it every day, face,, muscles, money, game (which let's be honest is usually an arrogant, self centered liar) wins. Yes, exactly. This is the key phrase. If you have a pretty guy that is just too short, he will not get any women. He needs to meet a certain height requirement for the woman to consider him, making height the most important aspect, as it is considered before all else, and will be a deal breaker before anything else is considered. Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yes, exactly. This is the key phrase. If you have a pretty guy that is just too short, he will not get any women. He needs to meet a certain height requirement for the woman to consider him, making height the most important aspect, as it is considered before all else, and will be a deal breaker before anything else is considered. What type of women are you talking about here though? Just attractive women, or do you mean average & unattractive women as well who need to lower their standards if they really want someone. Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yes, exactly. This is the key phrase. If you have a pretty guy that is just too short, he will not get any women. He needs to meet a certain height requirement for the woman to consider him, making height the most important aspect, as it is considered before all else, and will be a deal breaker before anything else is considered. I think 5'5" or 5'6" cuts it. That is what it seems like in the real world, I see couples and people dating everyday Link to post Share on other sites
DukeNukem47 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 What type of women are you talking about here though? Just attractive women, or do you mean average & unattractive women as well who need to lower their standards if they really want someone. Any woman that is having difficulty. From what I've seen, there are far more attractive women out there than men over 6'2 (or whatever height is considered "tall" these days). So some attractive women and, certainly, average and unattractive women will have to lower their standards. Link to post Share on other sites
DukeNukem47 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I think 5'5" or 5'6" cuts it. That is what it seems like in the real world, I see couples and people dating everyday I'm that height (ie: barely normal) and I certainly have to put in more work than the average height/taller guys that I know. ETA: Except for maybe Asian guys. They seem to have it just as rough as us shorties (doubly so if they're also short). Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm that height (ie: barely normal) and I certainly have to put in more work than the average height/taller guys that I know. ETA: Except for maybe Asian guys. They seem to have it just as rough as us shorties (doubly so if they're also short). Well I'm ugly, yeah it sucks, but that's just life. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Well I'm ugly, yeah it sucks, but that's just life. Basically, there's always going to be others who have it easy in certain aspects of life. For example, if both of us were to become famous actors tomorrow, we'd have literally millions of options. Everywhere we'd go, there would be women throwing themselves at us all of a sudden. I remember 2Pac in an interview said when he became famous all of a sudden women were throwing themselves at him when no one ever gave him the time of day before. I believe some were the same women that rejected him before he was famous. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DukeNukem47 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Well I'm ugly, yeah it sucks, but that's just life. Just think: If we were alive 60 years ago, we'd be valued more for our accomplishment than our looks/height. Do I dare to dream? Link to post Share on other sites
toolforgrowth Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 OK, I'm just gonna say it. I cannot tell you how I HATED being tall all through junior high and high school and part of college. I hated it. It WAS a reason that certain people did not approach me or ask me out. Even now, it is very apparent that most men go for the pixies. I have a couple of choices: I can kick rocks like a spoiled toddler and blame all men and their "unreasonable expectations" I can give up I can be a grownup, play my assets to my advantage, and hold out for a man who will choose me as I am I choose the latter. That means I'll be at home on Saturday nights some...or a lot. So what? It is not a man's responsibility to alter his preferences to make me feel better. No man owes me his interest. And no woman owes a man her interest, no matter how totally awesome a victim he thinks he is. This has got to be my favorite post of the month. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm going to get jaw surgery to fix my underbite and implant a jaw line. I have a good personality and a lot of girls like me after talking to me (I'm the friend zone guy) I still won't look great but that should ease things up for girls who like my personality. If not then it wasn't meant to be. Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 This has got to be my favorite post of the month. Well it is a good way to look at it to just accept it as is. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DukeNukem47 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm going to get jaw surgery to fix my underbite and implant a jaw line. I have a good personality and a lot of girls like me after talking to me (I'm the friend zone guy) I still won't look great but that should ease things up for girls who like my personality. If not then it wasn't meant to be. I don't think that getting surgery is the answer, man. Have you tried learning game? Sure, it's a lot of effort and you will get shot down a bunch, but it does work and won't leave you with potentially lifelong side effects of the surgery. Link to post Share on other sites
DukeNukem47 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Well it is a good way to look at it to just accept it as is. It's also easier for her to say because, as a woman, height doesn't matter as much and she could just jump online and have multiple dates. I've known many women that "struggled" IRL, only to go online and get a boyfriend instantly. Link to post Share on other sites
Mangina Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) It's also easier for her to say because, as a woman, height doesn't matter as much and she could just jump online and have multiple dates. I've known many women that "struggled" IRL, only to go online and get a boyfriend instantly. She is 5'10" there are not that many single 6' guys so she has it pretty tough Edited February 23, 2015 by Mangina stupid auto correct Link to post Share on other sites
NJ123 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 She is 5'10" there are not that many single 6' guys so she has it pretty though I think there's no point of really complaining much about this height stuff anymore though. It's not going to change what women want regardless of what anyone says. Majority of women like tall guys the most, just have to accept it basically. All it takes is 1 woman who doesn't give a **** about height. Most people are bound to find someone. Some do unfortunately stay single for most of their life though even while looking for a g/f which is unfortunate. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
DukeNukem47 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) I think there's no point of really complaining much about this height stuff anymore though. It's not going to change what women want regardless of what anyone says. Majority of women like tall guys the most, just have to accept it basically. All it takes is 1 woman who doesn't give a **** about height. Most people are bound to find someone. Some do unfortunately stay single for most of their life though even while looking for a g/f which is unfortunate. Yeah, I guess this is true. As I said, even casual sex from new women every week isn't that difficult for a short guy, provided the guy builds up connections, has access to drugs, hits on enough women at a club, willing to get hookers, etc. As for something more long-term, yes, this will be difficult for a short guy. But, again, a lot of it is due to the social circles that you hang out with. I've been set up by women with their friends. Unfortunately, these women tended to have multiple kids, or bipolar disorder, or some other such ailment that would be okay for a short fling, but not marriage. These women were all hot too. Also, I have met girlfriends on cold approach before when I used to do it a lot. Had an almost year long relationship from a very attractive German girl that was actually taller than me and just 21 that I met at 7/11. A friend of mine married an extremely attractive Asian girl that is now a doctor and 10 years younger than him. He met her at the gym. So cold approach can work, for sure. Edited February 23, 2015 by DukeNukem47 Link to post Share on other sites
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