I can't believe some of my coworkers would rather take unemployment than move to a

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It would be tough for them to get unemployment unless they were laid off. It looks like they will either have to quit or move. If you resign, it's not very easy to get unemployment unless you have just cause. A good example is lack of reliable transportation to the new location. If you don't own a car or rely on public transit, it would be considered a hardship if you lack the means to get to the new location. BUT, in the likely event they could get unemployment, they would first have to appeal the initial decision, because usually you are denied unemployment if you quit. It would probably take a few months before they could claim unemployment. If I were them, I would begin the job search immediately if they truly are unable to commute.

 

Exactly, they would definitely have to go through an appeal process because the UC Examiner will deny benefits after talking to the employer. And it's not a hardship because it's 15-20 mins away from where the current location is

[contact1]

To you it may not be a hardship, but to others who may not have the time to commute an extra 20 minutes (and that is I'm sure 20 minutes by car, not public transportation), it can make a huge difference. About 40 minutes extra (20 minutes each way), if someone has a child in daycare and they need to get back by a certain time, yes it is an issue for them.

 

On top of that, the fact that the new area may have a high crime rate, is a very valid reason for some to not work there. Not everyone is motivated by just having money / a job. There are many factors you consider when taking a job. So when a job moves further away, to a more dangerous area, and if you already didn't like the job, leaving to take unemployment and find work elsewhere is not being fool, it's doing what is best for you.

 

6 months of unemployment is a good amount of time to find work, and those already planning to leave are probably already applying to other locations while still at the job, giving them more than the 6 month limit to find a job. The only thing foolish is the shortsightedness of assuming just because it isn't hard for you, it must be the same for everyone else.

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To you it may not be a hardship, but to others who may not have the time to commute an extra 20 minutes (and that is I'm sure 20 minutes by car, not public transportation), it can make a huge difference. About 40 minutes extra (20 minutes each way), if someone has a child in daycare and they need to get back by a certain time, yes it is an issue for them.

 

On top of that, the fact that the new area may have a high crime rate, is a very valid reason for some to not work there. Not everyone is motivated by just having money / a job. There are many factors you consider when taking a job. So when a job moves further away, to a more dangerous area, and if you already didn't like the job, leaving to take unemployment and find work elsewhere is not being fool, it's doing what is best for you.

 

6 months of unemployment is a good amount of time to find work, and those already planning to leave are probably already applying to other locations while still at the job, giving them more than the 6 month limit to find a job. The only thing foolish is the shortsightedness of assuming just because it isn't hard for you, it must be the same for everyone else.

 

Well let me just say that I been unemployed 4 times between 2009 and 2013 and believe me six months is not a long time. You may not even get called for a interview until after your 3rd month. So I know how fast time can fly when you have no job which is why I have no intentions on leaving. Is the new area unattractive? YES but my plan is to always bring my lunch and only be outside when I am coming to work and leaving. And I was not planning to look for a job until maybe a year from now but since this move thing has happened I will start the process now and hope to be gone this time in 2017.

[pink_sugar]

Well let me just say that I been unemployed 4 times between 2009 and 2013 and believe me six months is not a long time. You may not even get called for a interview until after your 3rd month.

 

This is very true. I was on unemployment at the beginning of 2014 and I was going on my 3rd month of unemployment, so I took the first offer that was given to me even if it was only part time. It was still better than worrying about whether or not there was going to be another offer in that next 3 months of my search. 5 months later, that job ended a few weeks after I started another part time position, which went up to 30 hours now with potential for full time in the coming months.

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This is very true. I was on unemployment at the beginning of 2014 and I was going on my 3rd month of unemployment, so I took the first offer that was given to me even if it was only part time. It was still better than worrying about whether or not there was going to be another offer in that next 3 months of my search. 5 months later, that job ended a few weeks after I started another part time position, which went up to 30 hours now with potential for full time in the coming months.

 

Exactly, so I am going to the Ghetto with no issues lol. Plus I love the benefits like having 2 days off for Easter and Christmas and a nice health care package. So I am going to give all that up to sit home and look for something else?

[Almond_Joy]

Just chiming in to reiterate contacts point.

 

This move may not seem like a big deal to you, compared to being unemployed, and that's great, but I can see why this would be a deal-breaker for others.

 

If people have some money saved, they can get by while unemployed.

 

If they're living in a dual income household they may be able to get by while unemployed.

 

I've seen many colleagues move in with family members or get a cheaper place so they can get by while unemployed.

 

And, I didn't think this was possible, but some jobs may become so unbearable that the stress of unemployment may seem like the lesser evil, especially if you've got a backup plan or resources.

 

Everyone's situation is different, and for some being unemployed isn't a big deal.

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Just chiming in to reiterate contacts point.

 

This move may not seem like a big deal to you, compared to being unemployed, and that's great, but I can see why this would be a deal-breaker for others.

 

If people have some money saved, they can get by while unemployed.

 

If they're living in a dual income household they may be able to get by while unemployed.

 

I've seen many colleagues move in with family members or get a cheaper place so they can get by while unemployed.

 

And, I didn't think this was possible, but some jobs may become so unbearable that the stress of unemployment may seem like the lesser evil, especially if you've got a backup plan or resources.

 

Everyone's situation is different, and for some being unemployed isn't a big deal.

 

 

 

Yes for a woman who is married but not for a Man taking care of himself.

 

 

And even if someone does it with a dual income at some point her no income status will become a strain on the household

[whichwayisup]

new location.

 

That rumor that was going around has not been confirmed yet but a staff meeting was announced today and then pushed to next week. Everyone believes it's about us moving to the new location and some people don't want to go at all. Some even said they would accept unemployment than go to the new spot. Now I agree the new area is awful and I would not be crazy about working there but I have to follow the money. My commute now is 20 mins and it will go to about 35-40 when traveling to the new location.

 

And do these people really believe that they would layoff people off if they requested because of not wanting to go to the new spot? I didn't want to tell them but the only choices they have is moving or fired lol One girl said she would even go on welfare before going to the new area.

 

Since I been laid off 4 times between 2009 and 2013, moving to me is no big deal since Im still working

 

Maybe they don't like the job as much as you do or need the money like you do. Maybe they just don't want to do the commute, maybe some are driving far now and don't want to add another half an hour or so longer. You even say the new area is awful, so to them, they have a right to not want to continue working there. Everybody is different and who knows what is going on in their lives.

[whichwayisup]

And only a fool would take the option to be laid off because you only get 6 months in 2015. And sometimes it takes 3 months to get a interview so you would be forced to go from being a full-time employee to a temp

 

So I rather be a permanent employee in the ghetto instead of a temp in a nice neighborhood LOL

 

Just because that's what you would choose to do doesn't mean what others might choose is wrong for them. As I said, everybody is different and each have the right to decide for him/herself what is best for him/her. Guess I don't understand why what others choose to do upsets you so much?

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Maybe they don't like the job as much as you do or need the money like you do. Maybe they just don't want to do the commute, maybe some are driving far now and don't want to add another half an hour or so longer. You even say the new area is awful, so to them, they have a right to not want to continue working there. Everybody is different and who knows what is going on in their lives.

 

It takes people 6 to 9 months to find another job so it would be crazy to leave because of 15-20 mins extra commuting is crazy

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Just because that's what you would choose to do doesn't mean what others might choose is wrong for them. As I said, everybody is different and each have the right to decide for him/herself what is best for him/her. Guess I don't understand why what others choose to do upsets you so much?

 

Probably because 95% of them been employed since 2009 at the job and I been laid off 4 times since that time. Unemployment should never be a choice because most of the time for a position to be open a person has to be fired, resigned, or get promoted and that doesn't happen too often.

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Well it's official we are moving july 1st

 

 

Rent too high at current place

[Otter2569]

The extra commute may be a hassle but where I live that is not terrible. Maybe better to take or keep your job until you find something else. They say its easier to find a job when you already have a job.

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The extra commute may be a hassle but where I live that is not terrible. Maybe better to take or keep your job until you find something else. They say its easier to find a job when you already have a job.

 

I can't go anywhere because I only been at the job a little over a year. The people talking about leaving are the ones who been there working at that at pur current location for 5 years or more.