ASV Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Just curious to know, since I've always been atracted to the unknown, and 've been undergoing some meaningful strange events since I was a child. So how do you relate with such practices? Which current(s) do you follow? Any personal gateway to the occult which has proven to be easier to you? Which affects did it have to your personal life? As for my practices, I've only activated some sigils, with no result. I know that takes time and trust, which I have plenty of. Do you believe in such practice and has it proved its validity to you? P.S. Please abstain from posting if you're completely devoid at a spiritual level. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Timshel Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I do not and have never practiced magic. During theological studies I did read 2 books regarding Wicca. I can appreciate Wicca for it's respect of nature and more for the belief that everything you do will come back to you. That would be the end of any indulgence in the magical that I will absorb. Magic in the spiritual sense is the use of energy to manipulate an outcome. The possibility for corruption and a false sense of power turned me off. It goes against who I am. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
umirano Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I'm curious, if "activating sigils" never had an effect, what makes you think it ever will? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Satu Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Magick is the art of speaking to your subconscious in a way it understands. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
CarrieT Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I have been a practitioner of Magick (with a "k") for 30+ years. As an artist (Metalsmithing) I have created most of my own magickal tools (chalice, sword, crown, sigils, etc.) and more... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Timshel Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I'm sorry dudes and dudettes, Here's some magik. After I'm off, I carry the sword so......Lucks! Be careful what you will play with, you have no control of what you let in. None of us are smart enough. Even the smartest smarteist of you. Link to post Share on other sites
CarrieT Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Now that I am on a proper keyboard, I can answer more fully... Just curious to know, since I've always been atracted to the unknown, and 've been undergoing some meaningful strange events since I was a child. For me, it started when I was three years old; I had an imaginary friend (leprauchan-like being) that was so real to me to my family would even set a dinner place out for him and my father built him a separate door into my place house for him. So how do you relate with such practices? Unsure what your question is there. Which current(s) do you follow? I started in Wicca and Paganism and ended up in Thelema. Any personal gateway to the occult which has proven to be easier to you? Kabbalah, Goetia, and Enochian. Which affects did it have to your personal life? Way too loaded a question - and (honestly) I need to pack to go on vacation so I can't elaborate because I flying to Japan early tomorrow morning and have too much to do at the moment. As for my practices, I've only activated some sigils, with no result. How familiar are you with the sigils you are activating? And for what reason? I know that takes time and trust, which I have plenty of. Do you believe in such practice and has it proved its validity to you? It takes more than time and trust. It takes in-depth study and practice before engaging in such activities. Do you believe in such practice and has it proved its validity to you? Yes and yes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author ASV Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 I'm curious, if "activating sigils" never had an effect, what makes you think it ever will? After reading countless experiences from magicians and based on the thought that, in fact, sigils are not designed to have an immediate effect at all. CarrieT, I'm glad you answered the thread - I was eagerly waiting for you to appear since I've read elsewhere that you are really into such topics. In fact I'll PM you with some more thorough questions once I can send messages (damn, how many posts shall I send before?). As for my experience with sigils, I've mostly followed the Chaos trend, without implying any other influence than my own freedom of creativity at designing them. I've always had some kind of ritual (a specific illumination, amulets and music) for activating them through reaching gnosis, be it through meditation, extenuation or orgasm. As for the particular goals, I'll let you know when I'm ready to PM you. As for theory, I've been interested in Crowley's writings since very young. I like his concept of True Will and exercises of meditation and self-discipline (Book 4 opened me some doors which I haven't really followed due to lack of consistency...). I've read some basic books on concepts of Qabbalah but never been into its practices. I'll elaborate more on this later too. Glad to read you all on this, by the way. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
CarrieT Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Van Norden, you need to be here a minimum of 30 days and have a minimum number of posts (50?) before you can PM. Doesn't matter as starting tomorrow morning, I'm offline for about ten days. But I'll be back to answer questions after that. Personally, I believe self-styled Chaotics - i.e., utilizing one's "own freedom of creativity at designing them [rituals]" - is asking for a world of trouble. I firmly believe you have to have a comprehensive, solid basis of known, effective rituals before establishing one's own. I'm not surprised your activated sigil has had no effect if you are making it up as you go along... Hearken back to those that have been doing it for a while and learn from them before creating your own path. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Satu Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 As for my practices, I've only activated some sigils, with no result. If you're not getting any results with sigils: 1. The way you are charging them isn't working. The more power you can invest in them the better. You need to be in an exalted state, pouring huge quantities of energy into the sigil. On fire, Spiritually. Experiment, and find a way that works for you. The thing that will work for you will be unique to you. 2. Once you've made and charged the sigil, you need to 'forget' about it, so that the sigil can do its work, without you monitoring that working. If possible, 'forget' about it completely. If you can remember what the sigil looked like, it won't work. Keep trying until you know what works for you. Link to post Share on other sites
Author ASV Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 I firmly believe you have to have a comprehensive, solid basis of known, effective rituals before establishing one's own. I'm not surprised your activated sigil has had no effect if you are making it up as you go along... Hearken back to those that have been doing it for a while and learn from them before creating your own path. So is there any first source to get in touch with such topics? Any book or reference? Thanks in advance once again. Link to post Share on other sites
CarrieT Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 So is there any first source to get in touch with such topics? Any book or reference? Thanks in advance once again. I *highly* recommend the how-to books as written by Lon Milo DuQuette or, secondly, Donald Michael Kraig. DuQuette runs the gambit from Enochian, Tarot, Sex, Qabbalah, Goetia, and a definitive analysis of Crowley's rituals. My personal favorites are his Angels, Demons, and Gods of the New Millennium, Chicken Qabbalah, and his Magick of Aleister Crowley: A Handbook of the Rituals of Thelema. And DuQuette writes and sings really funny songs about Babylon... Link to post Share on other sites
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