can you trust an escort?

[Robert Z]

Correction: On my first trip to Nevada I didn't know the ropes [so to speak] and saw a couple of girls who were second tier [300-400 per hour range]. It was an amazing weekend and I have great memories. In fact the one was exceedingly kind. When I told her my story, that I hadn't had sex in over ten years, even though she knew she would never see me again, she threw out the book and treated me like a king with no regard for the clock. Then she called her friend and asked her to join us. They were both an absolute pleasure and we had a wonderful time.

[todreaminblue]

Con people and escorts are one in the same....

 

Their job is to "trick" you into spending money on them. Hence the urban slang "trick" comes from.....

 

 

prostitution slang is turning tricks.....i think it came more from trick sex than from actual con jobs done by hookers.....the art of using the hand in place of the vagina...trick sex........the guys get what they pay for the majority of the time..if not more than what they pay for.......deb

[Toodaloo]

We all come from bad circumstances, but how we handle them speaks to our character, values, and morality.

 

When I got old enough, I cleaned houses, tutored, studied hard (graduated top 10% of the whole school - despite Spanish being a second language to me) and I was getting ready to join a "tech" university (where math was emphasized and I passed the test, but couldn't afford tuition).

 

I had no choice but to leave my home with $20.00 in my pocket and joined the military.

 

Did I think of doing something in the sex trade? Yes, I actually went to a stripper place and when the woman told me to get naked so she could check me out, I said "no thanks".

 

There are other stories I'd have to drum up, but point is, someone who jumps into the sex trade to make an "easy buck" doesn't get my sympathies. Even "if" you started in that, look at the OP's hustler friend....she hasn't done one thing to take herself out of the situation.

 

I've seen on shows where some Asian women who were forced into the sex trade as kids grow up to get out of the biz and even start support groups to help other women get out of it. The OP's "hustler" friend hasn't done a thing to improve herself, therefore, her entry into the sex trade isn't/wasn't a matter of circumstance, but lack of character/morals/values.

 

But, I'm sure she's already trying to spin that story on him and/or other guys - which is "now she is going to school to be nurse and is changing her life, and if he could only support her"...booo freakin' hooo:rolleyes:

 

And, as you can see, these people's character doesn't change. The OP says she moved on to get paid to marry a guy and dragged an innocent child into her horror of a life.

 

So yea, trust them all you want. You'll end up dead, in jail, broke - or all three.

 

Gloria honey - I really do think you are great and part of me agrees with every single sentence you have written.

 

However another part of me understands that people who have completely F'ed up lives sometimes need help to get out of it.

 

You got that in the form of your Grandparents and the Military. Both of which have clearly installed a very strong set of morals within you. This is great it really is. They have formed the sassy, fun, wonderful woman you are.

 

Some people just don't have that. They need help to see the other side and learn how to live another way. Its hard to turn your life around and become the person you want to be when you don't know how...

 

We don't know this girl. I suspect that if OP lets her too close she will rob them blind because she doesn't know any better...

[TrevorDia]

I've been conned by an escort before.

 

Well, that sounds really shady, so I'll back it up a bit.

 

A few years ago I met this lass, she'd just been accepted into university and I had too. Turns out we had a lot in common so we kept writing (completely platonic, I had a gf at the time). Anyway, she'd been offered an opportunity by this really shady guy to meet with a couple of friends of his and she'd be paid well for meeting up with them. You can fill in the blanks between her meeting these guys and her getting paid yourself.

 

So she decided she didn't need university, she could make good money as an escort. She told me most of the time it wasn't even sexual - she "specialised" in the "girlfriend experience". She's a very attractive young woman and was well aware of that.

 

Anyway, every so often business would die down and she'd have no source of income so she'd be a sweet talker. She knew exactly what to say and exactly when to say it. She'd start by pulling on the "we're friends, right?" string. Then she'd try the "I'll do things your gf won't". Ultimately when I rejected that, she'd say "Please, I'll lose my home" and guilt tripped me with how she'd have to try get work out on the street. Usually I wouldn't fall for that, I expected that it was all talk to get money out of me. Then a former friend of mine started bragging about how he'd paid her £10 deposit, said he'd pay £100 for the night, but ran off before she had time to collect. I don't like it when my friends are getting conned, even when they're doing questionable work. So I paid her what she was owed and - well, we'll just say I set the guy straight on how he should approach women in the future (he didn't have the other £90).

 

A few nights later, remarkably, I get a call from her saying it's happened again. 2 weeks later, it happened again. She never got kicked out of her flat - and she was always buying new clothes, she even got a new phone. So when she inevitably calls up again crying down the phone, I tell her I can't help. She had the nerve to ask if I could pawn some of my stuff or she'd be kicked out. Respectfully I said no. And remarkably, she didn't get kicked out.

 

There's a saying that a fool and his money are soon parted. And I was foolish enough to pay her under the guise of caring for my friend. By the time I realised, I was about £600 down. Every part of me wanted to call the police, but there was that one small annoying part of me that wanted to make sure she came to no harm or trouble. For all the deceit, she had been there for me during some difficult times, and I was thankful for the friendship.

 

I believe that she was trustworthy up until the point that money became an issue. So I guess what I'm saying is that an escort can be trusted like any other person up until money becomes an issue. Don't allow yourself to pay any money to her no matter what, and don't allow her to guilt you.

[loveweary11]

I know more escorts than anyone here, I'd venture to say. No, not because I've slept with them...

 

I can tell you for a fact they are, as group, identical to any other cross section of the population.

 

They will have the same traits as female Walmart cashiers and female investment bankers.

 

The one key difference is they will mentally group guys into ones they can make money off of, or ones they don't look at that way.

 

So, OP... be sure you are firm about not giving her a dime and make sure she doesn't think you have any money. .

 

99% of escorts, just as 99% of Walmart cashiers won't rob you. I'd say that drops to 50% as we discuss investment bankers!! However, most drug addicts WILL rob you, so watch out for that.

 

A fair number of lower end escorts do it to support a drug habit. Be concerned about that only.

[preraph]

There are plenty of men who are willing to pay for the woman to be like they want and to say what they want to hear. But any who don't get that that is what is going on simply have the wool pulled over their eyes and don't want to see it.

 

I have been around sex workers on every level, unfortunately. Some were just complete skanks, some were sucked into doing favors for entertainment people and used to entertain their clients, some were straight up call girls. All had one thing in common and that was they were prepared to tell the john or client they were misunderstood, the most wonderful person in the world, deserved better than they were getting at home, and do whatever in bed -- and it's all for one reason, and that is to make money or get what they want (like access to celebs), and usually both. One of them is a nice older lady now who has grandchildren but has days she won't get out of bed and doesn't see anything wrong with having a bondage sex photo on the dining room wall with grandkids around and who still likes to hit on waiters and seek validation on her looks. She's the best one of the ones I've known.

 

The others were homewreckers and just straight-up con artists. I met all but the one I described above through my time in the music industry. One was kept by a label, her and her sister, who did threeways. She told me if no one took her to dinner, she didn't eat. She relied on the label and the clients they sic'd her on to keep her fed and tipped. Her father was a serial cheater airline pilot, which explains her cavalier attitude toward all the homewrecking she was doing. I didn't hate her, but nonetheless, anyone who thinks she's being nice to them for any other reason than profit is just a sucker. And whoever married her, if anyone did, is just a long-term john, because I never once heard her talk about love.

[todreaminblue]

this thread so reminds me of one of my exes......

 

the reason being he says to me all the time...you sit in church you are such a hypocrite nothing but a fat whore......think they would want to know you if they knew ......i should tell them then see how welcome you feel.....

 

in my heart of hearts...i think to myself....no...they accept me it wouldnt matter to them......thats my past i dont do it anymore....

 

i have sat at their tables i have shared food with them ...i have laughed with them i have cried with them...i have supported them and they have supported me......i teach their children in sunday school...i give talks on the podium about friendship.......

 

i have not been an escort for over twenty years.....and yet it hangs over my head like a forgotten darkness i must remember and reminded of and feel all over again humiliated by .......

 

none of you people bar the op know this woman or what her story is...yet you all sit in judgement and derision about her.....what a shame......to me that isnt having high morals or standards ..not any sign of it.......its called being judgmental when you have no right or knowledge to judge her inferior to yourselves no matter how stunning a history you have of good and right choices.....

 

 

may you all fel shame...doubt you will....but maybe more justified .......

 

 

mary magdalene was an ex hooker..yet she was a close and trusted confidante of the greatest man on earth......and forever immortalized the best thing ever said......let he who is sinless cast the first stone.......

 

its possible people change...and the fact remains the op said she is now an ex hooker......with a child now......people can change...and thats fact....i did.......and as far as having low morals......i never did......even when i was a working girl

 

it is not the sum of who i am now...or even the sum of who i was back then........so this woman the op talks about may be the same......whose to know...she never gets a chance in the first place to defend herself....as you label her a thief a liar and a whore she shouldnt forget should she.even though she4 has done nothing to the op at all...........deb

 

 

good luck op......i hope whatever happens.......you let her be.....deb

Edited March 26, 2015 by todreaminblue

[loveweary11]

And if I may add...

 

A secret to take to the grave. Not because it's wrong or because you can't walk proud with your head held high, but because of all the misguided hate, judgement and cruelty other people dish out.

 

It's about time people respected all women.

 

At least these girls are working, contributing to the economy and are financially free. More than can be said for a lot of their critics.

 

 

 

this thread so reminds me of one of my exes......

 

the reason being he says to me all the time...you sit in church you are such a hypocrite nothing but a fat whore......think they would want to know you if they knew ......i should tell them then see how welcome you feel.....

 

in my heart of hearts...i think to myself....no...they accept me it wouldnt matter to them......thats my past i dont do it anymore....

 

i have sat at their tables i have shared food with them ...i have laughed with them i have cried with them...i have supported them and they have supported me......i teach their children in sunday school...i give talks on the podium about friendship.......

 

i have not been an escort for over twenty years.....and yet it hangs over my head like a forgotten darkness i must remember and reminded of and feel all over again humiliated by .......

 

none of you people bar the op know this woman or what her story is...yet you all sit in judgement and derision about her.....what a shame......to me that isnt having high morals or standards ..not any sign of it.......its called being judgmental when you have no right or knowledge to judge her inferior to yourselves no matter how stunning a history you have of good and right choices.....

 

 

may you all fel shame...doubt you will....but maybe more justified .......

 

 

mary magdalene was an ex hooker..yet she was a close and trusted confidante of the greatest man on earth......and forever immortalized the best thing ever said......let he who is sinless cast the first stone.......

 

its possible people change...and the fact remains the op said she is now an ex hooker......with a child now......people can change...and thats fact....i did.......and as far as having low morals......i never did......even when i was a working girl

 

it is not the sum of who i am now...or even the sum of who i was back then........so this woman the op talks about may be the same......whose to know...she never gets a chance in the first place to defend herself....as you label her a thief a liar and a whore she shouldnt forget should she.even though she4 has done nothing to the op at all...........deb

 

 

good luck op......i hope whatever happens.......you let her be.....deb

[todreaminblue]

And if I may add...

 

A secret to take to the grave. Not because it's wrong or because you can't walk proud with your head held high, but because of all the misguided hate, judgement and cruelty other people dish out.

 

It's about time people respected all women.

 

At least these girls are working, contributing to the economy and are financially free. More than can be said for a lot of their critics.

 

 

i have found time and time again hiding secrets .....its a matter fo time only before they are out.......i prefer to tell than to be outed.......i prefer to have that control......my secret wont be taken to my grave.......as hers wont...deb

[Wackkkk]

this thread so reminds me of one of my exes......

 

the reason being he says to me all the time...you sit in church you are such a hypocrite nothing but a fat whore......think they would want to know you if they knew ......i should tell them then see how welcome you feel.....

 

in my heart of hearts...i think to myself....no...they accept me it wouldnt matter to them......thats my past i dont do it anymore....

 

i have sat at their tables i have shared food with them ...i have laughed with them i have cried with them...i have supported them and they have supported me......i teach their children in sunday school...i give talks on the podium about friendship.......

 

i have not been an escort for over twenty years.....and yet it hangs over my head like a forgotten darkness i must remember and reminded of and feel all over again humiliated by .......

 

none of you people bar the op know this woman or what her story is...yet you all sit in judgement and derision about her.....what a shame......to me that isnt having high morals or standards ..not any sign of it.......its called being judgmental when you have no right or knowledge to judge her inferior to yourselves no matter how stunning a history you have of good and right choices.....

 

 

may you all fel shame...doubt you will....but maybe more justified .......

 

 

mary magdalene was an ex hooker..yet she was a close and trusted confidante of the greatest man on earth......and forever immortalized the best thing ever said......let he who is sinless cast the first stone.......

 

its possible people change...and the fact remains the op said she is now an ex hooker......with a child now......people can change...and thats fact....i did.......and as far as having low morals......i never did......even when i was a working girl

 

it is not the sum of who i am now...or even the sum of who i was back then........so this woman the op talks about may be the same......whose to know...she never gets a chance in the first place to defend herself....as you label her a thief a liar and a whore she shouldnt forget should she.even though she4 has done nothing to the op at all...........deb

 

 

good luck op......i hope whatever happens.......you let her be.....deb

 

I know her story, she grew up struggling and always hungry. Her mom was always out and about. I still love her, she was always a cool friend to me. she went down the wrong path, when you're hungry u will hussle and do anything, and then you get addicted to the money. I don't care, it was other people putting doubt in my head.

[Wackkkk]

OP I don't know if you're male or female so it's hard for me to read what this woman's intentions might be. If you're a female, then maybe she is regretting her choices and she is looking for a friend to talk to. That's the first thought that comes to me.

 

I'm a female. I can tell when she was telling me that she does regret it.

All I can do is be a good friend to her, be there for her when she needs someone. She needs good people in her life, she's got with the wrong people and went down the wrong path. I saw the life she lived when we were 14 15 in highschool. She thought I was " rich" just because my parents gave me lunch money and a five bedroom house, the basics.