madjac74 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I never approach a man. I would smile and make eye contact. I'm turned on by manly men, so it would be a turn off if I had to approach. My current girlfriends friend got my attention in a bar and told me that she liked my smile. It wasn't because I wasn't manly enough to approach her but because I was just spending time with a coworker after work and not looking for girls and never saw her. She sort of made the approach via a friend and we have been together 2 years. It is a good thing she didn't wait for a "manly man" who might have just missed her Link to post Share on other sites
BronzeAgeJaeger217 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 My current girlfriends friend got my attention in a bar and told me that she liked my smile. It wasn't because I wasn't manly enough to approach her but because I was just spending time with a coworker after work and not looking for girls and never saw her. She sort of made the approach via a friend and we have been together 2 years. It is a good thing she didn't wait for a "manly man" who might have just missed her God bless your girlfriend Link to post Share on other sites
toolforgrowth Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 There's a dichotomy in what men are hearing. For example, there's a thread in GRD that asks if catcalling and whistling at women should be considered harassment. Many women enthusiastically agreed. Then we have this thread shaming men for not having the balls to approach them. Well, which is it? You can't have it both ways. You can't imply there should be legal ramifications for a man expressing his desire for you and yet get upset when they stop approaching you. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I approve of catcalling, but if a law were passed that said "if a female is made uncomfortable by unwanted male advances, she may file harassment charges", where would you draw the line? I could be sued for simply introducing myself if made her uncomfortable. If you want men to approach you, the rewards have to be worth the risk. I wouldn't risk my livelihood if such a law were to pass...no way. You could say I'm ball-less to your heart's content...wouldn't sway me. Link to post Share on other sites
Maleficent Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Tooljforgrowth I don't know about you but there is a huge difference between approaching a woman and introducing yourself VS yelling "yio babe! Sup hot stuff" to a stranger. Not that I think catcalling is harrasment but I'll let you figure out which one is classy and which one isn't... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
toolforgrowth Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Tooljforgrowth I don't know about you but there is a huge difference between approaching a woman and introducing yourself VS yelling "yio babe! Sup hot stuff" to a stranger. Not that I think catcalling is harrasment but I'll let you figure out which one is classy and which one isn't... Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. But my point is that who is to say whether one is harassment and the other isn't? The person being approached. It's all on how they choose to perceive the intent of the person approaching them. The experience is completely determined by the approachee. Women want to be approached, but only on their terms. I can honestly understand that. But each woman's terms are different. To attempt to legislate those terms and legally place control completely in the hands of one group of people is a recipe for disaster. My point is that it does no good to deride men for not approaching them while simultaneously making it more difficult for them to do so. Link to post Share on other sites
BronzeAgeJaeger217 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 "If a female giraffe sees a male giraffe that she wishes to mate with, she often goes up to the male and rubs her neck on his", it says that in this article right here, so if female giraffes can do it, so can human females. How Do Giraffes Mate? | eHow 1 Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 "If a female giraffe sees a male giraffe that she wishes to mate with, she often goes up to the male and rubs her neck on his", it says that in this article right here, so if female giraffes can do it, so can human females. How Do Giraffes Mate? | eHow And other species, the female kills the male as soon as she's gotten herself fertilized. And still others have a knockdown dragout because the female isn't interested. My little sparrows out back, a male has been pursuing the female for a couple of weeks now. She has a favorite place she perches on a small piece of iron sticking up on a planter. He keeps coming over and trying to mount her but he can't because there's nothing to stand on, so he ends up standing on her back and just irritating her. My old mare used to kick and bite the crap out of most of the males who came around, and she only liked a certain one. It was pretty obvious she liked him. Just sayin. Link to post Share on other sites
hotpotato Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 "If a female giraffe sees a male giraffe that she wishes to mate with, she often goes up to the male and rubs her neck on his", it says that in this article right here, so if female giraffes can do it, so can human females. How Do Giraffes Mate? | eHow Maybe the human equivalent is smiling, eye contact, etc. A lot of women do that. Anyway, there are things that work for animals that don't work for humans. For example, when a male dog sees a female dog, and she's close enough, he attempts to hump her whether or not she's interested. Def wouldn't work for people. Link to post Share on other sites
hotpotato Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 And other species, the female kills the male as soon as she's gotten herself fertilized. And still others have a knockdown dragout because the female isn't interested. My little sparrows out back, a male has been pursuing the female for a couple of weeks now. She has a favorite place she perches on a small piece of iron sticking up on a planter. He keeps coming over and trying to mount her but he can't because there's nothing to stand on, so he ends up standing on her back and just irritating her. My old mare used to kick and bite the crap out of most of the males who came around, and she only liked a certain one. It was pretty obvious she liked him. Just sayin. Truth lol. Watch a female rhino shove a horn up a horny rhinos a** Link to post Share on other sites
BronzeAgeJaeger217 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Maybe the human equivalent is smiling, eye contact, etc. A lot of women do that. Anyway, there are things that work for animals that don't work for humans. For example, when a male dog sees a female dog, and she's close enough, he attempts to hump her whether or not she's interested. Def wouldn't work for people. If women never look at me or smile at me when I go out, maybe I'm not attractive enough? Even I have lost a lot of weight Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 If women never look at me or smile at me when I go out, maybe I'm not attractive enough? Even I have lost a lot of weight Maybe you just don't look approachable. For people to feel comfortable smiling openly at you, first they want to see you standing around a circle of people laughing and smiling with them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
autumnnight Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I'm gonna try that...What do you think this particular person would do if I just went up to him and rubbed my neck against his..... I'll let y'all know if someone has to bail me out of jail 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hotpotato Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I'm gonna try that...What do you think this particular person would do if I just went up to him and rubbed my neck against his..... I'll let y'all know if someone has to bail me out of jail I was thinking maybe I could turn around, poke out my booty seductively, and that would be less likely to get me a restraining order... Link to post Share on other sites
Frank2thepoint Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Some women will complain about being approached, some will complain about not being approached. For a man, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Because all I ever hear is that they dont want approached at any store, gas station, library, gym, sporting event, bank, bar, club, wedding, church, park, festival, car show, restaurant, museum, etc, etc. There was a thread a while back where many women chimed in saying this exact thing. They don't want to be approached in these locations, except for a bar or club. In reality, approaching a woman in a store, library, gym, wedding, or wherever are ideal because they don't have their guard up, like it would be in a bar or club. Link to post Share on other sites
hotpotato Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Some women will complain about being approached, some will complain about not being approached. For a man, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. There was a thread a while back where many women chimed in saying this exact thing. They don't want to be approached in these locations, except for a bar or club. In reality, approaching a woman in a store, library, gym, wedding, or wherever are ideal because they don't have their guard up, like it would be in a bar or club. Gym is totally not a good place to hit on people in general imo. Gym and library people are very likely to be busy. When I go to the store, im operating under time constraints so I dont have time to socialize. I would be very irritated. If it were at a wedding, id think he was on the prowl for vulnerable women a la Wedding Crashers. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Tooljforgrowth I don't know about you but there is a huge difference between approaching a woman and introducing yourself VS yelling "yio babe! Sup hot stuff" to a stranger. Not that I think catcalling is harrasment but I'll let you figure out which one is classy and which one isn't... True to a point but the gender warriors are constantly moving the goal post. Guys walk a very fine tight rope and if we fall then some are ready to tear us to shreds. I don't believe all women feel this way but men get the impression from media that they do so some decide to just opt out completely. Link to post Share on other sites
Rejected Rosebud Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Gloria, what do you mean by women at the end of the day look up to men to... "control" them? I really have no interest to control any woman. Too much work and not loving, I believe. I don't think that Gloria is speaking for women in general even if she means to - that might be what SHE is looking for in a man but not me boy howdy!! If I started wanting my guy to control me he would probably leave me!! He doesn't like weak women at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Rejected Rosebud Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Guys walk a very fine tight rope and if we fall then some are ready to tear us to shreds. I don't believe all women feel this way but men get the impression from media that they do so some decide to just opt out completely. I get the impression from the media and from this site also that women are only valuable as long as we are skinny and young and can bear children but fortunately I know that is a load of hooey and shake it off!! Whoever believes everything they read or hear on the media is asking for it!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
autumnnight Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I don't think that Gloria is speaking for women in general even if she means to - that might be what SHE is looking for in a man but not me boy howdy!! If I started wanting my guy to control me he would probably leave me!! He doesn't like weak women at all. I probably shouldn't even bother trying to point out that women who tend to be submissive are not weak. But hey, I'll toss it out there. Just because you want to wear the pants doesn't mean women who don't are weak. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AD1980 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I probably shouldn't even bother trying to point out that women who tend to be submissive are not weak. But hey, I'll toss it out there. Just because you want to wear the pants doesn't mean women who don't are weak. It's not just because she's submissive she said she wants to be controlled..that seems like an odd thing for an adult to want 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Maleficent Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. But my point is that who is to say whether one is harassment and the other isn't? The person being approached. It's all on how they choose to perceive the intent of the person approaching them. The experience is completely determined by the approachee. Women want to be approached, but only on their terms. I can honestly understand that. But each woman's terms are different. To attempt to legislate those terms and legally place control completely in the hands of one group of people is a recipe for disaster. My point is that it does no good to deride men for not approaching them while simultaneously making it more difficult for them to do so. We want to be approached like a human being. With respect. Catcalling is not respectful, not a compliment and not pleasant. We don't have to tolerate being treated like a piece of meat. Link to post Share on other sites
toolforgrowth Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) We want to be approached like a human being. With respect. Catcalling is not respectful, not a compliment and not pleasant. We don't have to tolerate being treated like a piece of meat. I'm not saying you shouldn't be approached like a human. I'm saying that legislating your morality by making catcalling a crime only further demonstrates the actions of women that give normal men the perception that approaching them is dangerous, even if he has honorable intentions. I'm also saying that women don't have a leg to stand on by complaining that men don't have the balls to approach them if they make approaching them a potential crime. There is far too much room for it to be abused. All it takes is for one decent guy to approach a woman at the wrong time in order for him to have a lawsuit slapped in his face. As I said, you can't have it both ways by making men coming on to women a crime and still expect them to take that risk. No woman is worth a criminal record. EDIT: sorry, I'm getting my threads confused. I thought this was the one about catcalling. I posted in both and got them confused! Edited May 12, 2015 by toolforgrowth Link to post Share on other sites
BronzeAgeJaeger217 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 We want to be approached like a human being. With respect. Catcalling is not respectful, not a compliment and not pleasant. We don't have to tolerate being treated like a piece of meat. Care to elaborate what is the logic behind why going for what you want, being a go-getter is a masculine thing? Link to post Share on other sites
Maleficent Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Care to elaborate what is the logic behind why going for what you want, being a go-getter is a masculine thing? Care to elaborate on why I should elaborate on an opinion I did not express? Link to post Share on other sites
BronzeAgeJaeger217 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Care to elaborate on why I should elaborate on an opinion I did not express? Well people stubbornly argue pretty often that going after what you want, making things happen is a masculine thing Link to post Share on other sites
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