hamlet95 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I consider myself a strong believer in Jesus Christ. I believe He is the Son of God. Here's where I differ with Christians. I don't believe in an eternal hell. I believe that Jesus saved the whole world when He died on the cross & rose again. Universal Salvation belief is way outside the lines of what many consider orthodox Christianity. They won't sell universal salvation books in Christian bookstores for that reason. Because of my belief that everybody goes to heaven I probably would not be compatible with Christian women. They would be bothered by the fact that I don't believe in hell. If for no other reason they could consider us incompatible to date. Furthermore most Christians would consider me to be on my way to hell for believing that everyone goes to heaven. If you even question the doctrine of hell then according to many hell believing Christians you are probably in danger of going there. That's how they try to protect this sadistic doctrine. I believe even Satan and the demons will be saved at some point. All creation is reconciled to God through the work of the cross of Christ. For this reason I think I pretty much would be better off dating an atheist than a Christian. I don't make it a high priority to date someone with the same beliefs as I do because in my view I don't have to go to sleep at night worrying myself sick about my significant other's salvation even if they don't believe in Jesus because God has them just as covered in grace as believers are. But that's a burden many Christians have to carry every night when they go to bed if they really take seriously their belief in an eternal hell. Link to post Share on other sites
Author hamlet95 Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 Latest studies indicate that more Christian women these days are marrying unbelievers than fellow Christians anyway. Why? because lots of unbelieving men know how to live lives of integrity and being devoted to their wives and providing for them and being loyal and hard working. It doesn't take a belief in Jesus for any man to be a decent husband to his wife and father to his children. It's actually condescending to presume otherwise. Some Christians don't even do the basic things that unbelievers do when it comes to managing a household and supporting a family. Just goes to show that having a belief in Jesus does not necessarily make one a better person. No one needs religion for a self improvement program. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
endlessabyss Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Oy vey. (10 characters) Link to post Share on other sites
NGC1300 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 If you follow Jesus, then you're a Christian. Also, there's no hell in the old testament. It isn't until gentle Jesus that you're threatened with hell for not following him. Honestly, the whole thing is a fairy tale, like any other religion. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 You are better off not marrying an extremist no matter what they are extreme about. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 If you follow Jesus, then you're a Christian. Also, there's no hell in the old testament. It isn't until gentle Jesus that you're threatened with hell for not following him. Honestly, the whole thing is a fairy tale, like any other religion. Sheol is the Hebrew word for hell/underworld. 'Pit' and 'hole' are also used to describe hell in the O/T. Link to post Share on other sites
LookAtThisPOst Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I kind of know how you feel with the topic of this thread, but I don't think I could ever fathom the possibility that has not one inkling of such an existence of at least some higher power. The idea that atheists only think that the oblivion exists for us after death is something I can't comprehend and with the spiritual things I've experienced just strengthens my faith. I consider myself a strong believer in Jesus Christ. I believe He is the Son of God. Here's where I differ with Christians. I don't believe in an eternal hell. I believe that Jesus saved the whole world when He died on the cross & rose again. Universal Salvation belief is way outside the lines of what many consider orthodox Christianity. They won't sell universal salvation books in Christian bookstores for that reason. Because of my belief that everybody goes to heaven I probably would not be compatible with Christian women. They would be bothered by the fact that I don't believe in hell. If for no other reason they could consider us incompatible to date. Furthermore most Christians would consider me to be on my way to hell for believing that everyone goes to heaven. If you even question the doctrine of hell then according to many hell believing Christians you are probably in danger of going there. That's how they try to protect this sadistic doctrine. I believe even Satan and the demons will be saved at some point. All creation is reconciled to God through the work of the cross of Christ. For this reason I think I pretty much would be better off dating an atheist than a Christian. I don't make it a high priority to date someone with the same beliefs as I do because in my view I don't have to go to sleep at night worrying myself sick about my significant other's salvation even if they don't believe in Jesus because God has them just as covered in grace as believers are. But that's a burden many Christians have to carry every night when they go to bed if they really take seriously their belief in an eternal hell. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Physics Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 You are better off not marrying an extremist no matter what they are extreme about. Atheism is not an extreme. An extremist is one who tries to push their beliefs on the other person. Most atheists don't care what anyone believes as long as they don't try to legislate their beliefs into government policies. Christians on the other hand do care what others believe because they are convinced that anyone who does not believe like they believe will end up in hell after they die. That's what drives Christians who believe in hell. They think they are doing others a favor to try to convince them hell is real because they think people need to be saved from hell. That's what allows room for extremism in their belief system but from their point of view they have created a justification in their mind to be an extremist. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I consider myself a strong believer in Jesus Christ. I believe He is the Son of God. Here's where I differ with Christians. I don't believe in an eternal hell. I believe that Jesus saved the whole world when He died on the cross & rose again. Universal Salvation belief is way outside the lines of what many consider orthodox Christianity. They won't sell universal salvation books in Christian bookstores for that reason. Because of my belief that everybody goes to heaven I probably would not be compatible with Christian women. They would be bothered by the fact that I don't believe in hell. If for no other reason they could consider us incompatible to date. Furthermore most Christians would consider me to be on my way to hell for believing that everyone goes to heaven. If you even question the doctrine of hell then according to many hell believing Christians you are probably in danger of going there. That's how they try to protect this sadistic doctrine. I believe even Satan and the demons will be saved at some point. All creation is reconciled to God through the work of the cross of Christ. For this reason I think I pretty much would be better off dating an atheist than a Christian. I don't make it a high priority to date someone with the same beliefs as I do because in my view I don't have to go to sleep at night worrying myself sick about my significant other's salvation even if they don't believe in Jesus because God has them just as covered in grace as believers are. But that's a burden many Christians have to carry every night when they go to bed if they really take seriously their belief in an eternal hell. Well you've pretty much got it figured out what you want. Good luck to you and your Athiest. Link to post Share on other sites
Michelle ma Belle Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I consider myself to be a Christian but I no longer subscribe to any particular religion. I also do not go around trying to convince people of anything never mind arguing over who gets saves and who is damned. I struggle every day in my own journey and trying to make sense of things that I don't have time or the energy to worry about everyone else. I agree with OP in your second post that claiming to be a Christian or practicing Christianity does NOT make you any better or faithful or honest or worthy than someone who isn't a Christian. In fact, it's been my experience that anyone who goes around strongly professing any belief they might have and trying so hard to convince others that their way is the "right" way are dangerous and often more hypocritical than the average person. As for dating a Christian vs Atheist, who cares? Just find someone you're compatible with and forget about the rest. Unless your faith is paramount in your life, don't worry about labeling people and dating inside a box. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 As for dating a Christian vs Atheist, who cares? Just find someone you're compatible with and forget about the rest. Unless your faith is paramount in your life, don't worry about labeling people and dating inside a box. I agree Michelle. Why even question it if that's what he wants. Just do it. Link to post Share on other sites
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