Physics Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) I mean there's hundreds of denominations out there all claiming that they are from God and have the one and only correct interpretation of the Bible. Why is there so much division in the Christian community? I mean if you talk to 2 Christians in the same room it's unlikely they do not agree on what is required for a person to go to heaven. They probably don't agree on the issue of whether or not masturbation is a sin. Some believe you can lose your salvation while others believe once saved always saved. No matter what doctrinal position anyone takes they all sound sincere and they think they have a strong case from the Bible to support their position. Some believe it's a sin to watch R rated movies. Other Christian denominations are more liberal and say it's ok to watch R rated movies. Each denomination has a different level of strictness or looseness. Some believe water baptism is necessary for salvation and others don't. Yet all these denominations are basically trying to convince the world to follow their specific denomination and not the others. Any chance that maybe they've all got it wrong? It seems like in Christianity you can make up your own flavor of it if you don't like what these other denominations believe and teach. Just start your own. Why not? There's new denominations being birthed every month. Whose to say one denomination's interpretation of the Bible is correct and the others are wrong? Maybe the whole thing is a big joke because of all this division. If I were to ask is masturbation a sin I'm going to come up with different responses and probably each christian who takes any belief on this subject thinks they have strong biblical support for why it is a sin or it is not a sin. If Christians can't even agree with each other on what it takes to go to heaven and what it takes to please God then something's wrong with the whole system. Edited April 15, 2015 by Physics Link to post Share on other sites
Tayla Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Hmmm.....Makes ya validate how unique we are in your interpretations. Just as it should be. Believe what you want, question what you will. I am not a bible thumper and certainly do not adhere to the literal in it. Yet the golden rule exist, and has been part of societies..... I'm glad you are questioning ...it means you are teachable and can decide on your own. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Physics Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 Any chance that nothing is required of humanity to go to heaven? Any chance that there's nothing required of us to please God? More importantly could God save humans without requiring anything of them? Whatever requirements there were could God fulfill all of the requirements for us through His Son Jesus Christ? Could He even fulfill the requirement to believe? I'm not asking if He did it but the issue is could He have done it that way? If He is not able then why call Him God? Does God have limitations? If so then is He really God or just a superior version of the human race? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Physics Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 Hmmm.....Makes ya validate how unique we are in your interpretations. Just as it should be. Believe what you want, question what you will. I am not a bible thumper and certainly do not adhere to the literal in it. Yet the golden rule exist, and has been part of societies..... I'm glad you are questioning ...it means you are teachable and can decide on your own. Not having a literal interpretation is an interpretation in itself. You are convinced that not having a literal interpretation is the only correct interpretation and the others are wrong. So it's really no different even if you take a more symbolic approach. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Physics Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) And I don't believe in the Golden Rule. I think it's overrated. "Treat others the way you want to be treated". Well what if a person enjoys inflicting pain and misery on themselves? Does that mean they should treat others the same way? The golden rule assumes that everybody wants to be treated a certain way and that's just not the case. Some folks are masochistic and get pleasure out of receiving pain to themselves. They're not happy with receiving good treatment from others. We're not mind readers and can't presume to know how a person wants to be treated unless they communicate honestly. The kind of treatment I appreciate may be way different than the treatment you appreciate. I'm not you. You are your own person. By the way this whole thing about striving to imitate Jesus is also overrated. Why not just be yourself? Jesus did His thing and He was His own person. I'm not Jesus Christ and have no plans to imitate Him in my lifestyle. I am my own person. I am unique. I think this world would be boring if everyone became a carbon copy of Jesus in their lifestyle. Diversity is something I appreciate. Edited April 15, 2015 by Physics Link to post Share on other sites
Tayla Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I love your spunk! Human ethics exist. Choose to follow it or not, Free will. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFinalWord Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 You're right, I think Christian universalism is the answer. Link to post Share on other sites
LookAtThisPOst Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Yeah, it kind of blows my mind, too. I think it all started when the pilgrams came over on the Mayflower and wanted to have the freedom to "worship in their own way." This likely happened when there was something about their initial religion they didn't like. For instance, like King Martin Luther forumed the Lutheran church, because he was attracted to the option of having to divorce ...where the Catholic church didn't allow divorce. Later one, there came other objections certain individuals had with certain "rules" and thought, "I don't like this rule(s), so lets form another religion that doesn't take issue with such a rule." And it just snowballed. Also, some churches tried to adapt to modern culture by going from traditional organ music to rock bands and the ability to be a "cool" church, esp. to the youth. When I was a guest at some of these churches, it got uncomfortable with me with the whole "close your eyes and hold your hands to the sky" gestures. lol. Quite weird...some churches have this "flare for the dramatic." I mean there's hundreds of denominations out there all claiming that they are from God and have the one and only correct interpretation of the Bible. Why is there so much division in the Christian community? I mean if you talk to 2 Christians in the same room it's unlikely they do not agree on what is required for a person to go to heaven. They probably don't agree on the issue of whether or not masturbation is a sin. Some believe you can lose your salvation while others believe once saved always saved. No matter what doctrinal position anyone takes they all sound sincere and they think they have a strong case from the Bible to support their position. Some believe it's a sin to watch R rated movies. Other Christian denominations are more liberal and say it's ok to watch R rated movies. Each denomination has a different level of strictness or looseness. Some believe water baptism is necessary for salvation and others don't. Yet all these denominations are basically trying to convince the world to follow their specific denomination and not the others. Any chance that maybe they've all got it wrong? It seems like in Christianity you can make up your own flavor of it if you don't like what these other denominations believe and teach. Just start your own. Why not? There's new denominations being birthed every month. Whose to say one denomination's interpretation of the Bible is correct and the others are wrong? Maybe the whole thing is a big joke because of all this division. If I were to ask is masturbation a sin I'm going to come up with different responses and probably each christian who takes any belief on this subject thinks they have strong biblical support for why it is a sin or it is not a sin. If Christians can't even agree with each other on what it takes to go to heaven and what it takes to please God then something's wrong with the whole system. Link to post Share on other sites
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