What upsets women about porn?

[curiousnycgirl]

I just have to ask this question since it is a topic that seems to come up all the time on LS. I am a single woman and I don't have any problem with porn - or with the fact that my b/f reads it/watches it, etc.

 

Its funny because recently I was helping my b/f unpack his house and when he opened a box of playboys, penthouses, etc. he immediately said he would throw them out. I never asked him to - and it had never occurred to me to ask.

 

My response was to say that was too bad since he seemed to have quite an impressive collection. Apparently he had never thrown out a single issue.

 

I can only assume he thought it would bother me and therefore said he would throw them out, but it really doesn't bother me at all. Nor do all the porn videos. He lived in asia for 2 years and DVDs were around $1 a piece there - so he bought a bunch - so what?

 

I am very happy he has a healthy interest in sex and fell even better that he has chosen to spend his time and express his affection (amoung other things) with me.

 

So ladies - can you please tell me what I am missing here? What upsets you so much about porn?

[SadAndLonely]

In today's society, a lot of women have a poor self-image. We're bombarded with the "idea" woman everywhere we go - big boobs, skinny otherwise, young-looking, and almost flawless. In addition, some women have been in relationships where abuse accompanied their men viewing porn, so they associate porn with feeling bad about themselves.

 

It's great that you don't have a problem with porn, and I don't either, but it's hard to judge someone without knowing what she's been through.

[moimeme]

Darned if I know. Makes no sense to me.

[Thinkalot]

Through various ways, perhaps society, upbringing, media, movies, women seem to have a romantic /set view of love, which says their man should devote all his interest, love on them. If he starts getting excited watching porn, instead of JUST the woman he is with, it can therefore be threatening for her.

Plus some women also forget that men are different to women, they forget men can simply get sexual satisfaction, release, without having emotional feelings attached, and without valuing the woman they are with less etc etc.

 

Other times, porn is truly a problem, because the man might get addicted to porn, and the porn may replace his sex life with his partner.

 

Or some are opposed for religious regions.

 

A whole swag of things really.

 

Me personally, I dont mind watching/reading porn myself sometimes...I dont mind my fiance doing so either. He doesnt watch much porn though, so who knows how I'd feel if he watched it a lot?

 

I think I can see both sides of the porn issue. Often it becomes not about watching porn itself, but about the male partner actually respecting that it makes his partner uncomfortable etc. The issue starts small, and then gets big and becomes about other things, it seems, from reading all the LS posts on the subject.

[slubberdegullion]

I think - for those who asked - that some women dislike their men viewing porn because it seems so, well, wasteful. I mean, when there's a beautiful, intelligent, sexual and provocative young woman sitting in the next room, why would a fellow resort to porn? I just don't get that.

[Adunaphel]

These are only my personal reasons:

 

- I hate the fact that my bf fantasizes about other women on a daily basis.

(I know that many men don't fantasize about being with the women in the porn, but my partner does and told me so)

 

- I feel like i have to compete with the girls in the porn.

 

- I hate the fact that my partner spends more time fantasizing about other women than fantasizing about me.

 

- I feel that all the effort that I put into looking pretty for my bf is wasted because he'll look at porn pics anyway.

 

- I feel that porn takes something away from my relationship.

 

- my partner is so used to watching porn that me being naked is not special to him, while I feel that it should be.

 

- I feel that if my partner spent more time fantasizing about having sex with me and less time fantasizing about having sex with porn-stars he would love me more and desire me more.

 

- when my partner watches a lot of porn, many things that I considered a special thing between us (anal sex, or some kinds of sex play) feel no longer special to me but feel dirty instead.

 

- I see a lot of things in a different perspective according to whether my partner watches porn or not.

 

- I don't fantasize about other men, I don't read romance novels and **** like that, so why should he look at porn?

 

- "Am I not enough for him????"

 

- If I know that my bf has been fantasizing about other women it is a huge turnoff for me.

 

- Why spend so much time surfing the internet for porn when you could spend that time with or for your partner?

 

- i genuinely believe that whenever you fantasize about other people you are taking away from your partner and from your relationship.

 

- if the relationship with my current boyfriend will continue or if my next bf will watch porn....well, i'm worried about the future. How am I going to feel about porn when I get old, or - worse- when I get pregnant?

 

- I find that it is disrespectful (yes, I know how so many loveshackers hate this word) to look at porn (or to read romance novels, or to develop an addiction to romance movies, or to collect stuff about an actor/actress/singer of the opposite sex that you find attractive) when you are in a relationship.

[MySugaree]

A brilliant Brief against porn, Adunaphel. Your indictment is pragmatic, personal and filled with particulars. LS's porn fan boys and girls will have no effective rebuttal. They'll only blame the relationship (or, cruelly, the victimized woman) for the havoc that porn can cause in an otherwise good relationship.

 

For them, it's blame the woman, never the porn.

[alphamale]

Originally posted by MySugaree

For them, it's blame the woman, never the porn.

 

If women refused to be involved in the making of porn in the 1st place then the only porn out there would be man-on-man porn. And very few hetero males would be interested in that!

[Merin]

I'm all okay with Porn..

 

It's never been an issue for me in my relationships...

 

I believe the people (regardless of gender) that pornography becomes an issue for is when one or both partners in the relationship begin to view pornography as thier FIRST choice in stimulation or worse thier ONLY choice in sexual satisfaction and it interferes with the REAL LIFE relationship.

[Bubbles]

MySugaree could not have said it any better than he did!

 

Unfortunatly that seems to be the concensious here. I agree with if one person is hurt by something that the other person does? Then maybe that one thing should stop for the good of the relationship.

 

JMHO,

 

bubbles

[Pocky]

Porn is ,and in my opinion will always be, best approached on a case by case basis. Some people have issues with it that are absurd and unrealistic and some people have issues with it that are reasonable and understandable.

 

It depends on the people and it depends on the impact porn has within the relationship. To give a general statement that porn is either always okay and acceptable or never okay or acceptable is to simple for something that can have dramatic affects on a relationship.

 

I've had my own issues with porn in my relationship and I've tried to consistently approach it with logic and understanding. I continue to, when dealing with porn advice, try to decipher if it is in fact the porn that is a problem or the people that are the problem.

 

While some have never and may never experience the negative affects of pornography, many people have and will experience it. To flippantly disregard the issue regardless of the situation just exacerbates the issue of pornography and widens the chasm between the pro-porn and anti-porn groups.

[faux]

Originally posted by MySugaree

A brilliant Brief against porn, Adunaphel. Your indictment is pragmatic, personal and filled with particulars. LS's porn fan boys and girls will have no effective rebuttal. They'll only blame the relationship (or, cruelly, the victimized woman) for the havoc that porn can cause in an otherwise good relationship.

 

For them, it's blame the woman, never the porn.

 

Very rarely is porn the real issue. As for Adunaphel's reasonings, they are all personal views; she believes that things ought to be a certain way, and if things are not that way then she is not happy, and she chooses to find a problem with pornography. It appears as though she has strong beliefs about sexuality, yet finds it difficult to respect her partner's differing views. Her partner does have a right to hold his own belief system regarding his privacy and sexuality, independent of her own.

 

It does not seem that Adunaphel's partner does not appreciate her sexually, and does not find her to be a loving and supportive individual, and does not value his relationship with her. It seems more that Adunaphel has developed a certain idea of how things ought to be, and in the face of having those beliefs challenged, she chooses to focus on pornography as the source of her discomfort. The source of discomfort seems to be her partner's differing belief system, and her partner's behavior, and a little bit of misunderstanding, perhaps.

 

If two people are in a committed relationship, whatever they share is special. If Adunaphel feels that certain things are not special anymore, then that is Adunaphel's issue alone. If an act of love had no more meaning, and felt empty, I doubt that Adunaphel's partner would want to partake in it, let alone initiate it.

 

There is nothing wrong with fantasizing about other people, or taking the time to be private by oneself, or to pleasure oneself. Viewing porn is most likely a very natural and normal thing to Adunaphel's partner; something he has been doing since his teenage days. Doing so is a part of his life, and it seems that he has no problem choosing to share his life with her. If it would help to have this man express how important it is to share intimacy with Adunaphel, then perhaps that is a conversation which should be had between them.

 

As for blaming women, I do not understand how a person could come to this conclusion; I have not noticed that people claim everything to be the women's fault. Maybe words are misunderstood. Porn usually does not seem to be the problem in the situations I read here on LoveShack, and it does not seem that anything is ever the women's fault. It does, however, appear that there are problems unique to the women that go unnoticed, or there are deeper, obscured problems between couples that are hard to see.

 

It would seem to me that if Adunaphel were made to feel more wanted, and more special, and that the acts of intimacy shared between herself and her partner had a deeper meaning, the problem might be helped. When two people are together for a while, often times a man will no longer spring to sexual attention when he sees his partner nude, but this does not mean he does not view her as a sexual creature.

 

Originally posted by Bubbles

MySugaree could not have said it any better than he did!

 

Unfortunatly that seems to be the concensious here. I agree with if one person is hurt by something that the other person does? Then maybe that one thing should stop for the good of the relationship.

 

JMHO,

 

bubbles

 

To me, it is wrong to even request that a person stop something so ingrained in his life. Each of us have private rituals that we have grown into from a very young age. Many men look at pornography and masturbate to it; they have done this since they were young. This is a thing which provides them with pleasure, and it is something that they can do all on their own. I would imagine that this would be a very hard thing to give up, if a man ever wanted to try.

 

I will agree that some men might do well to make their partners feel more special. I think it is OK to become stimulated by pornography, to pleasure oneself, and to fantasize about other impossible situations, with untouchable people. I do not think it is OK to stop showing how much a man cares for his partner, to neglect reminding her how beautiful he finds her, and how special it is that she chooses to share intimacy with only him. I think a lot of men feel these things do not need to be mentioned.

 

I look at pornography several times a week, whether my girlfriend is staying in her dorm in another state, or if she is in her home down the street from me. I always take the time to show her how much I care for her, and to tell her that what we share together is special. I took a great deal of time to try and explain to her why I look at pornography, why I masturbate, and why I feel that I have the right to do those things. I also tell her how important she is to me, and how grateful I am to be in her company, and how honored I feel that she chooses to be with me. My girlfriend knows why I look at pornography, and she is OK with it. My girlfriend also thinks that it would be wrong to tell someone to stop looking at pornography, as does my own mother.

 

As for the mention of my mother: I do not think that any subject should be taboo with my mother.

[Bubbles]

Always and interesting and fact filled post from faux. Thanks for YOUR insight into the situation.

 

Personally I think the woman is afraid that if her partner encourages his son to view pornography that she is next going to have girls coming and going in her house and really? I don't think that she is prepared for or wants that to happen. She is looking down the road at the possibility of "HORMONES RUNNING A MUCK" can't say I balme her for that but on the other hand, do you think that maybe her husband should have discussed his intentions with her or is it alright that she just finds pornography on the computer?

 

Do you not think that her biggest fear would be to walk-in on her husbands son while he's jacking off? Do you not think that maybe she would prefer that there be NO pornography in the house so that she feels assured that this situation will not happen?

 

There could be a thousand different answers and only one will be correct.........the one SHE chooses. If she does not like pornography, then she does not like pornography nothing we say or do will make her change her mind so why do we even bother trying to teach her that she is wrong?

 

Maybe we could find an answer for her by encouraging her to have well thought out conversations with her husband. I agree that SHE should not delegate what goes on in the house but she should try and at least give some boundaries.

IE.....clean up the history on the computer when they are finished. Do not view while she is in the house.....it make her uncomfortable.

 

And what about this? What if she was molested or raped when she was younger? Would that come into play here considering how she feels about pornography?

 

JMHO,

 

bubbles

[MySugaree]

she chooses to find a problem with pornography. It appears as though she has strong beliefs about sexuality, yet finds it difficult to respect her partner's differing views. Her partner does have a right to hold his own belief system regarding his privacy and sexuality, independent of her own.

 

So the aggrieved porn victim "chooses" to "find" a problem with porn. That a lover/husband jacks-off to sexual depictions, rather than be intimate with her, is the woman's hang-up. It's only a question of respect and tolerance, which the woman apparently lacks for her partner's "belief system." The porn problem will be solved only when women become open, tolerant and pluralist regarding their partners' sexual entertainment choices.

 

If only life, love and relationships were as antiseptically rational as faux believes. Porn consumption is not stamp collecting, it is not a "belief system." Porn consumption is, at bottom, about sex, desire, choice of partner and respect. Why is it that the aggrieved woman must "respect" her porn addled partner's viewing of teen anal sex but her partner can, with impunity, disregard her belief system, desires and wishes? That's a one way street.

 

At bottom, relationships are messy. Life is not as rational as bold face type. And men don't jerk-off to belief systems. Rather, they masturbate to pictures of young pretty women fuccking and getting fuccked.

 

To me, it is wrong to even request that a person stop something so ingrained in his life. Each of us have private rituals that we have grown into from a very young age. Many men look at pornography and masturbate to it; they have done this since they were young. This is a thing which provides them with pleasure, and it is something that they can do all on their own. I would imagine that this would be a very hard thing to give up, if a man ever wanted to try.

 

There's the real reason why women who oppose their partners' porn consumption are made to feel incompetent, illegitimate and intolerant. Boys love to jack-off to porn and woe to the woman who challenges this "ingrained" gender right to jerk-off. She, not porn, will be viewed as part of the problem. This debate is about power, not porn. And men still wield the power--and their right hands.

 

Porn is a cancer to many relationships--regardless of how good it makes Johnny Jack-off feel.

[HokeyReligions]

This might make me unpopular, but I don't care.

 

If you want to watch porn, that's fine. I don't care. Your life is not my business and I'm not going to tell you how to live it, so if I have less respect for someone who participates in pornography, believe it immoral and disgusting and exploitive - it shouldn't matter to anyone else.

 

There is a pornography boundary in my home. If my husband were to cross it he would keep on walking. I think it is slutty and cheap and disgusting.

 

I think that sex should be between two people who have a loving commitment to each other. I did not say marriage, I'm not a prude and I'm certainly not a religious person who believes that pre-marital sex is a sin. I just think that it's been degraded to a cheap "me me me" physical thrill that often leaves a path of emotional destruction for one, or both, people. Pornography supports that and to me that is beyond just sad, but a tragedy of society. Unwillingness to let go of pornography in favor of a loving relationship is a character flaw to me and I will not tolerate it.

 

Pornography has been around forever and people are curious. I was curious to see what people were talking about and I've seen some porn movies and magazines and smutty books. I don't see anything fulfilling about it, and I'm not talking about self-pleasure-- people don't need pornography for that. It's empty and lonely and takes what should and could be an essential display of love and bonding between a couple, and makes it into nothing more than a cheap thrill and does not encourage bonding in a loving way. I think that too many people confuse sex and pleasure for love and commitment, or use it as a foundation for a relationship and don't understand why it crumbles.

 

Pornography is a deal-breaker for a lot of people and that is fine. If its not for others, that is fine too. To each his own. I don't judge a person who indulges in pornography as being a bad person because pornography is only one part of a person. I can have the utmost respect for people in other areas, but I do not respect the viewing of, or participation in pornography and anyone that I have a relationship with understands and respects that. It is one of my priorities and if it doesn't match with someone else - then we are not a match. I dated a guy once that was perfect in every way for me, except that. He didn't understand my priorities so he went bye-bye, which is great because my husband and I agree on this.

 

Sometimes pornography IS the culprit--no matter how much people want to analyze things and pretend that it isn't. For those who say "just deal with pornography" I say "just deal without it."

[quankanne]

To me, it is wrong to even request that a person stop something so ingrained in his life

 

I really enjoyed sex when I was single, and it was an activity ingrained in my lifestyle before I took the plunge; therefore my vow to my husband to forsake all others can be disregarded so I can maintain my wants and desires over those we have as a couple, following this line of thinking. Especially since I don't really get any ...

 

:eek:

 

somehow, I don't think this will float with my husband; his respecting my belief that pornography addiction or a desire to hang out at strip clubs to "see the latest dance steps" is along the same line as my not screwing around on him.

 

I realize an anti-porn stance is not popular among those who don't have an issue with it, but this is my view, one that defines my relationship with my husband, and really can't be compared to what someone feels in their own relationship. Regardless of how I feel about my own situation, I refuse discredit the hurt or anger a person feels when they consider themselves robbed of an intimacy that's being given to a relationship with a fantasy magazine or film.

[curiousnycgirl]

Wow I want to thank everyone for their input here. I was genuinely asking the question, and I believe I got some really good insights here.

 

I just want to say, in case it was not clear, that I was in no way disparaging anyone for their beliefs. I was only trying to understand the other point of view. I hope you all understand that.

[moimeme]

when they consider themselves robbed of an intimacy that's being given to a relationship with a fantasy magazine or film.

 

People ought not be encouraged to believe hurtful lies. In Adunaphel's case, unfortunately, she seems to have an insensitive bf who isn't tending to their relationship as he ought. Faux needs to give him lessons.

 

However, plenty of perfectly normal male and female humans do watch porn but NOT to fantasize about the strangers in it. And to believe that your partner wants the porn people when he does not calls him a liar and shows utter distrust and disrespect. Just as it would if he accused you of cheating when you're not. And I will never agree that just because person X 'feels' or 'thinks' the person Y thinks a certain way, that person X should be encouraged to maintain these irrational, untrue, and unfair beliefs and then, on top of it, to berate, accuse, and otherwise abuse the person who was honest in the first place.

 

If this were an issue of men being irrationally jealous of women who are not cheating or flirting, every poster (including the hypocrites who claim to support these women but who look at porn themselves ) would leap to deem these men horribly unfair and worthy of leaving for accusing the innocent parties of doing something they are not doing. Yet when it's men being accused of this BS version of 'cheating' even despite their protestations that they do not lust after the porn stars, the men are the evil filthy dogs.

 

The bottom line is that both partners owe it to each other to trust each other - and this BS about porn being 'cheating', when the men are not even close to 'cheating' is just that and needs to be squelched as irrational, unfair, and just plain stupid.

[quankanne]

The bottom line is that both partners owe it to each other to trust each other - and this BS about porn being 'cheating', when the men are not even close to 'cheating' is just that and needs to be squelched as irrational, unfair, and just plain stupid

 

which is why I qualified my thoughts as those that "define my relationship with my husband." Many couples have the porn issue worked out, and there's no question of unfaithfulness or cheating because they're on the same page with each other, be they for or against.

 

it's when there is no common ground on porn's place in a relationship that the implied threat to intimacy is felt by the betrayed partner, and it is a very valid issue to the relationship. It's not your place or mine to say this person's feelings are bull, are irrational or stupid because it's not our reality, but theirs. And to assume so is simply foolish.

[moimeme]

Feelings, dearest Quank, are the most irrational of things. Which is why we must govern them and keep them in check when we can. Feelings are unfair. That's why we have minds - to tell us that we are being unfair or irrational and make us change our ways. We owe it to ourselves and our fellow-humans (particularly those we claim to love) to not allow our feelings to drag us around like so many hapless boobs.

 

You think I'm saying I never have irrational emotions? There you'd be wrong. But thanks to Ellis and some Buddhism and a bunch of other great authors, my requirement of me is that I be fair so I do battle with the emotions and make them behave. My feelings can be every bit as unfair, stupid, and ridiculous - but I will *not* let them lead me into being unfair so I fight them.

[MySugaree]

quankanne writes:

 

 

It's not your place or mine to say this person's feelings are bull, are irrational or stupid because it's not our reality, but theirs. And to assume so is simply foolish.

 

Bullseye, quakeanne. I don't know who's worse: Pornheads, or their "attack dog" apologists.

 

HokeyReligions writes:

 

 

 

Sometimes pornography IS the culprit--no matter how much people want to analyze things and pretend that it isn't. For those who say "just deal with pornography" I say "just deal without it."

 

Right on the money, Hokey: Sometimes porn is the problem, and all the psychobabble rationalizations cannot alter that basic fact.

[Grinning Maniac]

Sometimes porn is the problem...but sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's a symptom of something bothering the person that disrupts the intimacy for them. Sometimes a guy's just really horny and doesn't have the time (or isn't in the mood) to actually have sex and not only that, try and make sure his partner is satisfied during it... and instead takes a quick jerk to relieve the tension. Unfortunately, a lot of womem seem to not know the difference between those situations and they all get lumped into "Box A- Porn Freak".

 

As a quick aside, how many women would instead be perfectly fine with the following situation when we were horny and short on time: Call you over. yank your clothes off, orgasm as quickly as we possibly can, clean ourselves up, and *immediately* go back to what we were previously doing... without having said a word to you, or having made any effort to please you, for the entire time.

 

I can only speak for myself but that's how masturbation is for ME. Mostly just a quick wank to take the edge off the day. One notch above scratching my ass on the Intimacy-O-Meter. From my point of view, all of the women who make things sound as if their men are having a deep, loving, passionate "affair" with a *still image* of a, for all intents and purposes, *fictional* person...are idiots. Hear that? You're idiots. Sorry. You lose. Cry me a river.

 

I know I've seen a few threads where the situation was in reality, a very minor one (i.e: sex life was still good, no money problems generated by the porn use, relationship satisfactory, etc) and the girl would still be screaming:

 

"OMG MY BF'S **ADDICTED** TO PORN!!!!"

 

Also, Moi brought up a very good point and I think it deserves repeating.

 

The bottom line is that both partners owe it to each other to trust each other - and this BS about porn being 'cheating', when the men are not even close to 'cheating' is just that and needs to be squelched as irrational, unfair, and just plain stupid

 

Some of you ladies are dealing with men with legitimate problems, no doubt in my mind. But can we all agree that *some* of you are making a mountain out of a molehill and driving yourselves crazy over nothing? To most guys, jerking off is about as normal as toothbrushing, and just about as harmful. I think it would really help if some of you would just ask your partners, ***non-judgementally**, why they look at porn, L-I-S-T-E-N to what they tell you...and believe them.

 

 

[Again, this is just another rant by me. Not in response to any specific thing here that I can recall]

[HokeyReligions]

Originally posted by Grinning Maniac

Sometimes porn is the problem...but sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's a symptom of something bothering the person that disrupts the intimacy for them. Sometimes a guy's just really horny and doesn't have the time (or isn't in the mood) to actually have sex and not only that, try and make sure his partner is satisfied during it... and instead takes a quick jerk to relieve the tension. Unfortunately, a lot of womem seem to not know the difference between those situations and they all get lumped into "Box A- Porn Freak".

 

As a quick aside, how many women would instead be perfectly fine with the following situation when we were horny and short on time: Call you over. yank your clothes off, orgasm as quickly as we possibly can, clean ourselves up, and *immediately* go back to what we were previously doing... without having said a word to you, or having made any effort to please you, for the entire time.

 

I can only speak for myself but that's how masturbation is for ME. Mostly just a quick wank to take the edge off the day. One notch above scratching my ass on the Intimacy-O-Meter. From my point of view, all of the women who make things sound as if their men are having a deep, loving, passionate "affair" with a *still image* of a, for all intents and purposes, *fictional* person...are idiots. Hear that? You're idiots. Sorry. You lose. Cry me a river.

 

I know I've seen a few threads where the situation was in reality, a very minor one (i.e: sex life was still good, no money problems generated by the porn use, relationship satisfactory, etc) and the girl would still be screaming:

 

"OMG MY BF'S **ADDICTED** TO PORN!!!!"

 

Also, Moi brought up a very good point and I think it deserves repeating.

 

The bottom line is that both partners owe it to each other to trust each other - and this BS about porn being 'cheating', when the men are not even close to 'cheating' is just that and needs to be squelched as irrational, unfair, and just plain stupid

 

Some of you ladies are dealing with men with legitimate problems, no doubt in my mind. But can we all agree that *some* of you are making a mountain out of a molehill and driving yourselves crazy over nothing? To most guys, jerking off is about as normal as toothbrushing, and just about as harmful. I think it would really help if some of you would just ask your partners, ***non-judgementally**, why they look at porn, L-I-S-T-E-N to what they tell you...and believe them.

 

 

[Again, this is just another rant by me. Not in response to any specific thing here that I can recall]

 

Me thinks you have totally confused PORN with MASTURBATION. Two entirely different things!

 

You might want to re-read the posts again and clarify what you are talking about.

 

Also, if anyone believes that viewing pornography is cheating the relationship--they are not wrong, and to qualify everyone's belief by the standards of a few is pure arrogance and ignorance. If they are cheated out of intimacy, or the specialness of sex because of their SO's porn viewing, it's still cheating and this is something that couples need to define for each other. People do not have to tolerate any kind of activity that is detrimental to their feelings or views. They need t address it and either make changes or learn to accept it or decide that they are not right for each other and move on to others who share the same views. Its no different than drinking or smoking or religious differences.

[Moose]

But can we all agree that *some* of you are making a mountain out of a molehill and driving yourselves crazy over nothing?

I don't think you get it. At all.

[Bubbles]

No Moose they don't get it.

 

I think it has something to do with the "generation gap".......that's what I'm chalking it up to. Unfortunatly there are things that my kids are exposed to on a day to day basis and there would be no way that I as a child would have ever have known about.

 

Look at the Walt Disney commericials......at the risk of sounding like a pornography maniac........what's up with the big boobed lady wiggling her boobs behind the guys head? I didn't know that Walt Disney had to resort to using old lady boobs to get revenue?

 

The kids today are immune to pornography, gay marriage, homosexual activities, all sorts of different and/or offending religions........they are exposed to the world because of a bunch of maniacs in the 70's that said we should stop trying to protect our children and start educating them to the different ways of human nature.....well........I have a question..................WHEN THE HELL IS IT GOING TO FRIGGEN STOP? I'll be damned if my grandchildren and I are going to sit around the dinner table and talk about some kind of creepy sex **** that should be illegal but it's not because we all have to accept that fact that people are different and like different things............WHEN DOES IT STOP???

 

As a Mother, a survivor of molestation, rape, drug and alcohol abuse, physically and emotionally abusive Mother......I have come out on top but thanks to the "world" I had to suffer a lot of things that I should have NEVER known about!!!!!

 

Fed Up being told that I AM WRONG!!! If you don't like where I stand than do not reply to my post. I HATE INTERNET PORNOGRAPHY! It has destroyed more lives and marriages than it has saved!

 

 

bubbles