Women don't want a good man now days.

[loveweary11]

I can say this exact same thing about dudes. :lmao:

 

Dudes aren't looking for anything serious, they just want to spin as many plates as they possibly can.

 

Dudes don't want down to earth, sane, mentally stable women. They want immature drama seekers who are "exciting."

 

I have a career, I'm smart, funny, attractive, fun, adventurous, blah blah freaking blah. I haven't had a boyfriend in three years.

 

Meanwhile all around me if you're an: addict, promiscuous person, lunatic, emotionally all over the map, you can get a boyfriend. I have literally thought, on more than one occasion, that maybe I should just pretend to be absolutely bats_h!t crazy.

 

 

This is a great post and counter point. Totally true.

 

I regret using the word exciting in my post as it wasn't meant as a positive. It was meant as a double edge sword quality. Exciting is the last thing I'd look for in a relationship.

 

Where are all you normal types hiding, anyway? I don't find you online or on line (at whole foods and whatnot)

Edited April 21, 2015 by loveweary11

[Krieger]

Six!

 

 

So you like the semi big one's?

 

 

 

 

 

what ever Rachael Ray says she a size 6 and I find her sexy but that just me.

[road]

what ever Rachael Ray says she a size 6 and I find her sexy but that just me.

 

 

 

 

Was just poking fun in general to both sex's on here.

 

 

However not calling R Ray ugly though she doe not do anything for me.

[alsudduth]

Krieger - maybe you just aren't looking in the right place. What age range of girls are you looking for? I would say for what you are looking for (If I'm correct you want a normal relationship with someone ready to start a family and settle down) I would say look for someone in the 28-35 age range.

 

I've never done OLD (I've been with my husband since we were 15) but it just seems so impersonal to me. I have a friend who I talked into signing up for this singles club here in PHX, and within a week he met a girl and three years later they are engaged. A singles club may help you find a girl who is motivated to go out and do fun stuff vs sitting at home doing nothing, and who has similar interests as you....

 

Trust me, not all women want a "bad boy". They might think they do - but once reality sets in with one, they are going to be looking for a knight in shining armor to save them. I have several friends (I'm 34) who are tired of dealing with drama from men (YES MEN HAVE DRAMA TOO) and just want a nice guy who motivates them to be the best version of themselves.

 

Good Luck!

[KatZee]

This is a great post and counter point. Totally true.

 

I regret using the word exciting in my post as it wasn't meant as a positive. It was meant as a double edge sword quality. Exciting is the last thing I'd look for in a relationship.

 

Where are all you normal types hiding, anyway? I don't find you online or on line (at whole foods and whatnot)

 

I'll tell you where I'm hiding! (Since you're in my city too!) It's not online. Don't own any online dating profiles. And it's not on line in the Whole Foods. (I shop at Trader Joe's.)

[dataluxe]

Ok so i am pretty upset with the dating scene nowadays after noticing what is going on...i mean why do women like douchebags that treat them like trash(in most of the cases)?

 

I am pretty sociable, good looking (with good career) and i even tried the "lower your standards" thing and guess what? Even the average looking girl (smart one too) that i find turns me down for a date altough i treated her with respect and she gave me signs that my flirting was working....and guess what when i asked her if she has a BF she told me "it's complicated"! What in the name of general Patton does that even mean? Boyfriend, you have it or you dont does that compute to you??

I am convinced that she has a douchebag that treats her poorly and she only wanted me to have intelligent and fun conversations that the douche does not provide...

 

So yeah even the "good", well educated and average looking girls like *******s, so no hopes for decent guys!

 

And i am not gonna become an ******* or change myself radically just for the sake of providing a girl with her much needed "drama" dosage, it' s not who i am!

 

What can i say more, if you have young boys educate them to be *******s towards women, problem solved on the dating department!

[fitnessfan365]

Ok so i am pretty upset with the dating scene nowadays after noticing what is going on...i mean why do women like douchebags that treat them like trash(in most of the cases)?

 

I am pretty sociable, good looking (with good career) and i even tried the "lower your standards" thing and guess what? Even the average looking girl (smart one too) that i find turns me down for a date altough i treated her with respect and she gave me signs that my flirting was working....and guess what when i asked her if she has a BF she told me "it's complicated"! What in the name of general Patton does that even mean? Boyfriend, you have it or you dont does that compute to you??

I am convinced that she has a douchebag that treats her poorly and she only wanted me to have intelligent and fun conversations that the douche does not provide...

 

So yeah even the "good", well educated and average looking girls like *******s, so no hopes for decent guys!

 

And i am not gonna become an ******* or change myself radically just for the sake of providing a girl with her much needed "drama" dosage, it' s not who i am!

 

What can i say more, if you have young boys educate them to be *******s towards women, problem solved on the dating department!

 

1) Your looks, social skills, and career have NOTHING to do with how you interact with women. For example. Never ask a woman if she has a boyfriend. That's why it went south after you did. It's like you're communicating that you're looking to fill that role if she's single. If you had just kept things low key, stayed in the moment, and asked for her number, you most likely would have gotten it and wound up on a future date with her.

 

2) Just because a woman has a man in her life that isn't you, doesn't mean that he is a "d-bag". Unless you know the guy personally and observe his bad behavior, it's really just sour grapes over you being rejected. "Nice guys" tend to make excuses and blame others instead of taking a hard look at their own behavior. I personally haven't seen you try to pick up women, but I'm guessing that you make some mistakes in your interaction with women that turn them off. Fixing those won't mean you're becoming an "a-hole". It will just mean that you're finally learning how the male/female seduction dance goes. There are many confident, well adjusted, genuinely good guys that get women every day.

[loveweary11]

Damn, people don't get women.

 

All they want is a guy who is decent, strong, not too hard on the eyes and not boring.

 

It's really not as complicated as people make it seem.

[KatZee]

Damn, people don't get women.

 

All they want is a guy who is decent, strong, not too hard on the eyes and not boring.

 

It's really not as complicated as people make it seem.

 

I mean really!

 

I can't even tell you how many dates I've gone on with dudes who are just absolutely clueless, who play these "games" of, push/pull, "let me just pretend I have a life and I'm not totally boring", I'll ignore her for a couple days and then pop back up.

 

Where is this information being circulated!!!?

 

Just be decent, don't smother me, and date me like a normal human being!

[fitnessfan365]

I mean really!

 

I can't even tell you how many dates I've gone on with dudes who are just absolutely clueless, who play these "games" of, push/pull, "let me just pretend I have a life and I'm not totally boring", I'll ignore her for a couple days and then pop back up.

 

Where is this information being circulated!!!?

 

Just be decent, don't smother me, and date me like a normal human being!

 

In my opinion, I think that people who play dating games do so out of insecurity. They feel like they have to put on a show because they could never rely on just being themselves. However, even though "absence makes the heart grow fonder" is a cliche, it's also true. A guy that's a bit of a mystery and not clingy will always be more attractive than a guy who's over eager.

 

So I am very direct and to the point when making plans. I don't pull that waiting three days crap. However, after plans are made, that is when I give a woman some space. If the date frequency goes up over time, I'll initiate more communication between dates. In the beginning though, she's a lower priority because I don't know her that well. If I make plans for 2-3 days out, I usually just talk to her again then. That allows her to think about me and anticipate seeing me.

 

BTW - Kat, commented on you album pic. You're just WOWZA!

Edited April 22, 2015 by fitnessfan365

[KatZee]

In my opinion, I think that people who play dating games do so out of insecurity. They feel like they have to put on a show because they could never rely on just being themselves. However, even though "absence makes the heart grow fonder" is a cliche, it's also true. A guy that's a bit of a mystery and not clingy will always be more attractive than a guy who's over eager.

 

So I am very direct and to the point when making plans. I don't pull that waiting three days crap. However, after plans are made, that is when I give a woman some space. If the date frequency goes up over time, I'll initiate more communication between dates. In the beginning though, she's a lower priority because I don't know her that well. If I make plans for 2-3 days out, I usually just talk to her again then. That allows her to think about me and anticipate seeing me.

 

Agreed. In regards to OLD though, when I was OLD, the whole "absence makes the heart grow fonder" did not work on me. If a guy started talking to me and then played that game, I forgot all about him.

 

My whole game plan for OLD was, talk for a couple days, ask me on a date, meet me, and then either we never speak again, or we proceed to date two.

 

For some reason I'm a HUGE magnet for dudes who just want a pen pal or a text buddy. I actually had four, one right after the other. What the hell even is this??

 

They just want to talk to me every day, all day, and never ask to meet me. Really???

[fitnessfan365]

Agreed. In regards to OLD though, when I was OLD, the whole "absence makes the heart grow fonder" did not work on me. If a guy started talking to me and then played that game, I forgot all about him.

 

My whole game plan for OLD was, talk for a couple days, ask me on a date, meet me, and then either we never speak again, or we proceed to date two.

 

For some reason I'm a HUGE magnet for dudes who just want a pen pal or a text buddy. I actually had four, one right after the other. What the hell even is this??

 

They just want to talk to me every day, all day, and never ask to meet me. Really???

 

Well let's be honest Kat. You're INSANELY HOT. So let's take into account the types of guys that go online. I'd guess that the majority are socially awkward that don't approach in real life. So based on your looks, they're probably trying to work up the nerve to ask you out.

 

Now for me, it all depends on personality. But I will tell you this. If we exchanged a few emails, and I enjoyed the basic vibe, I'd have your number and on the phone with me that same day. Then if I liked the call, I'd be asking when you're free. When a beautiful woman that I enjoy talking to gives me her number, I want her out with me. Texting would be the last thing on my mind. Just saying..

[ascendotum]

Even the average looking girl (smart one too) that i find turns me down for a date altough i treated her with respect and she gave me signs that my flirting was working....and guess what when i asked her if she has a BF she told me "it's complicated"! What in the name of general Patton does that even mean?

lol. I've got that before. Its short odds I'd say it means she is having an affiar with a married man or is in a FWB with one (or maybe more) guys. She's not after a guy for a serious committed relationship or if she is and is going to jump from the guy she is currently have sex with you need to be better then him. She still enjoys the attention and flirting regardless.

Edited April 22, 2015 by ascendotum

[KatZee]

Well let's be honest Kat. You're INSANELY HOT. So let's take into account the types of guys that go online. I'd guess that the majority are socially awkward that don't approach in real life. So based on your looks, they're probably trying to work up the nerve to ask you out.

 

Now for me, it all depends on personality. But I will tell you this. If we exchanged a few emails, and I enjoyed the basic vibe, I'd have your number and on the phone with me that same day. Then if I liked the call, I'd be asking when you're free. When a beautiful woman that I enjoy talking to gives me her number, I want her out with me. Texting would be the last thing on my mind. Just saying..

 

Oh stoppp.

 

But seriously though, that's why I had to delete my OLD profile, it just got really stupid.

 

I'm just a person. I really wish people WOULD approach me in real life! Strangers don't even come up to me. (where is the sobbing emoji?)

 

I get random cat calls, that's about it.

 

Where do I need to go to meet a good man!!!!! LOL

[fitnessfan365]

Oh stoppp.

 

But seriously though, that's why I had to delete my OLD profile, it just got really stupid.

 

I'm just a person. I really wish people WOULD approach me in real life! Strangers don't even come up to me. (where is the sobbing emoji?)

 

I get random cat calls, that's about it.

 

Where do I need to go to meet a good man!!!!! LOL

 

Haha.. It's funny because working as a personal trainer around beautiful women over the years gets me access to all their rants and stories on dating. It's actually quite useful. One thing they love to comment on is cat calls and how they hate it. For some reason guys think that it works.

 

I'd walk up to you and chat. However, you could be a weirdo and make me wish that I didn't.

[KatZee]

and guess what when i asked her if she has a BF she told me "it's complicated"! What in the name of general Patton does that even mean? Boyfriend, you have it or you dont does that compute to you??

 

Straight up, this means: I'm not interested in you at all, but I'm not sure how to go about saying that without sounding incredibly a) rude, b) shallow, c) like a person who's just led you on either intentionally or unintentionally just for some ego stroking.

 

It's "complicated" because it's not real. She doesn't have a boyfriend. More than likely, she's just dating around, not wanting to make a commitment to anyone unless she's knows he's IT.

 

I've been single for over 3 years now. I've had some guys want to take me on dates, and I wasn't interested in them at all. I also didn't want to be like, "I just don't want to date you because I'm not attracted to you, and you just don't do it for me." So you kinda have to skirt around the question.

[GravityMan]

If being "nice" is all that you've got going for you...then you're going to be boring to a lot of women, and hell people in general. Being perceived as "boring" is highly likely going to be an attraction-killer.

 

Grow a pair. Suck it up and quit whining. Lose the bitterness. Get a life. Grab life by the horns. Live a little. Lighten the hell up. Stop trying so hard. Don't be a people-pleaser. Take a chance, a leap of faith every now and then. Don't be so invested in "acquiring" a woman...for God's sake, dating isn't some "critical mission" that you MUST pour your heart and soul into and MUST succeed at in order to "ascend to true manhood". Be a normal, civilized and fun human being when interacting with women (and people in general)...part of that includes not being agreeable to everything they say, and being comfortably willing to state your mind in a non-***hole manner. And perhaps most importantly, get to a point where you're HAPPY with and RESPECT yourself and your life. Get a bit of pride. Based on your post history OP...you really seem to dislike yourself.

 

Oh and BTW Krieger, all of the above can easily be accomplished without resorting to being a friggin' thug. It's not difficult or complicated, and there are tons of different types of guys who have the above...including many who are introverted and some that are mildly shy. They will naturally draw positive attention to themselves, which translates to dating opportunities. What you described in your OP is a thug. Good women generally don't date thugs.

 

And don't take "rejection" personally. Good lord, many times when a woman doesn't say yes...it's not because she has any issue with you. She simply wasn't interested in you romantically, period...she may have felt that you were a great guy who's funny, smart, good-looking, confident and all that...but she simply wasn't FEELING IT in any romantic or sexual way. Attraction is not logical, predictable, rational or practical. This is a major reason why a lot of people give the advice to just get out there. To an extent, it's sort of similar to not being hired for a job because you weren't the right cultural fit for that SPECIFIC company environment...and eventually you do get hired elsewhere where you ARE a great fit, and as a result you're happy there, you perform very well there and you connect well with a lot of your coworkers. People have vastly different tastes and preferences and you simply aren't going to be everyone's cup of tea, no matter what kind of person you are. That's just life, and you have got to come to grips with that. There are plenty of reasons why someone may turn down someone else for a date...issue(s) with that person (his appearance, his behavior, his "approach", his "vibe" or "energy", etc.) only comprise a small portion of such possible reasons.

 

You are making this WAY too hard on yourself. Please get out of your own way. Being a person who's attractive to at least a few women, and going on one or more dates with them, should not be that hard. Out of all the people I know at least somewhat well, women and men...aside from the one or two that are whiners themselves, they almost universally find whiners very irritating. Relatively speaking, even mild shyness is FAR more appealing to a lot of people than constant whining.

 

Many guys who are in happy relationships don't put too much focus, time or effort in trying to "get" a woman. Often, the attraction is mutual and pretty clear from the get-go. Sure, some of them may have had to "work" a bit in winning her over (that depends on the woman), but even then, those guys still have self-worth, and don't ridiculously devote 24/7 of their time (including mentally i.e. thinking) towards the woman. Their own lives (career, friends, family, hobbies, etc.) are still vitally important to them, and a lot of them try to integrate or include their girlfriends into some parts of their lives - and vice versa.

[Krieger]

Damn, people don't get women.

 

All they want is a guy who is decent, strong, not too hard on the eyes and not boring.

 

It's really not as complicated as people make it seem.

 

It is in some ways my standards are high as they should be.

 

 

• I like Non white more mostly Asian, Ethiopian , and Somali, don't LOL hey are tall, surprisingly curvy . Also any other woman of color .Open to dating white woman just do not find too many of them attractive .
  
• NO kids
  
• Mom and dad still together a plus
  
• Can not be over wight or obese but thick woman that are naturally thick are OK.
  
• Have a career or be working towards something or own a business
  
• down to earth fun loving and so on
  
• NO extreme feminism for me no thanks the world does own you or me anything
  
• Has to take care of her self sorry woman where I live do not shave anymore even in the summer yes you see woman with hairy legs
  
• Have a college degree
  
• knows how to act womanly in public and still can be for woman rights
  
• The biggest one of them all she has to be good in bed sorry to many woman just want to lay there and have the men do all the work I need more than that.
  
• Family oriented
  
• One last one dress like a female not all the time but where I live the dress like guys and I am willing to bet most have never worn I dress in there whole life. When all you clothes are from the men department it not a good thing.LOL
  
• Good mother instincts
  
• OH burp in public that is low class if we are at home it cool not when we are out with people having dinner.
  
• Likes the outdoors and to stay active.
  
• Knows how to cook and clean sorry if we have kids and I die what are you going to do ? Fast food ? Also I know how to cook as well so you do not have to do it all the time but if you cant how you going to feed the kids ? When I am not home?
  
• being good with money
  
• work no one wants to but if she cant keep a job for what ever reason not cool.
  
• Oh they to have a good relationship with there dad no daddy issues.
  

I think that is it of the top of my head .

 

 

Like I said it is complicated to find all that in one woman . I just picked the most important ones as must haves.

[Hawaii51]

It is in some ways my standards are high as they should be. Like I said it is complicated to find all that in one woman . I just picked the most important ones as must haves.

 

 

You should probably just limit it to; Women who are alive, of sound mental capability and who don't hiss at you. We can always add stuff later.

[Krieger]

You should probably just limit it to; Women who are alive, of sound mental capability and who don't hiss at you. We can always add stuff later.

 

 

I know right but Asian woman meet the important things like not being a single mother is a big one. I am not interested in dating a woman with three kids by three different men .

 

Funny story in one of my classes there was this Asian chick and a few other woman and there were talking about there kids and stuff Most of these woman had there kids out of wedlock .

 

Any way they asked the Asian girl she about late 20;s if she had any kids. At first she LOL than said If I had a kid with out being married my mom would beat my A@@ like I stole something.

 

The look on the females faces that have kids was priceless it was like she cracked the DA vinci code righ in front of them. :laugh::laugh:

 

 

I just want a decent feminine woman with good character and values that will treat me right.

Edited April 22, 2015 by Krieger

[Rejected Rosebud]

I have a better idea I will just play theses woman like tiger woods played golf back in the day. That is all there good for anyway.

 

Women love drama than I will just play games with her and keep her on her toes and talk to other woman in flirt with them in front of her.

Boy that really sounds like fun, you must be a pretty cool guy to plan stuff like that!! That's all were good for too:bunny: your write!!

[Krieger]

If being "nice" is all that you've got going for you...then you're going to be boring to a lot of women, and hell people in general. Being perceived as "boring" is highly likely going to be an attraction-killer.

 

Grow a pair. Suck it up and quit whining. Lose the bitterness. Get a life. Grab life by the horns. Live a little. Lighten the hell up. Stop trying so hard. Don't be a people-pleaser. Take a chance, a leap of faith every now and then. Don't be so invested in "acquiring" a woman...for God's sake, dating isn't some "critical mission" that you MUST pour your heart and soul into and MUST succeed at in order to "ascend to true manhood". Be a normal, civilized and fun human being when interacting with women (and people in general)...part of that includes not being agreeable to everything they say, and being comfortably willing to state your mind in a non-***hole manner. And perhaps most importantly, get to a point where you're HAPPY with and RESPECT yourself and your life. Get a bit of pride. Based on your post history OP...you really seem to dislike yourself.

 

Oh and BTW Krieger, all of the above can easily be accomplished without resorting to being a friggin' thug. It's not difficult or complicated, and there are tons of different types of guys who have the above...including many who are introverted and some that are mildly shy. They will naturally draw positive attention to themselves, which translates to dating opportunities. What you described in your OP is a thug. Good women generally don't date thugs.

 

And don't take "rejection" personally. Good lord, many times when a woman doesn't say yes...it's not because she has any issue with you. She simply wasn't interested in you romantically, period...she may have felt that you were a great guy who's funny, smart, good-looking, confident and all that...but she simply wasn't FEELING IT in any romantic or sexual way. Attraction is not logical, predictable, rational or practical. This is a major reason why a lot of people give the advice to just get out there. To an extent, it's sort of similar to not being hired for a job because you weren't the right cultural fit for that SPECIFIC company environment...and eventually you do get hired elsewhere where you ARE a great fit, and as a result you're happy there, you perform very well there and you connect well with a lot of your coworkers. People have vastly different tastes and preferences and you simply aren't going to be everyone's cup of tea, no matter what kind of person you are. That's just life, and you have got to come to grips with that. There are plenty of reasons why someone may turn down someone else for a date...issue(s) with that person (his appearance, his behavior, his "approach", his "vibe" or "energy", etc.) only comprise a small portion of such possible reasons.

 

You are making this WAY too hard on yourself. Please get out of your own way. Being a person who's attractive to at least a few women, and going on one or more dates with them, should not be that hard. Out of all the people I know at least somewhat well, women and men...aside from the one or two that are whiners themselves, they almost universally find whiners very irritating. Relatively speaking, even mild shyness is FAR more appealing to a lot of people than constant whining.

 

Many guys who are in happy relationships don't put too much focus, time or effort in trying to "get" a woman. Often, the attraction is mutual and pretty clear from the get-go. Sure, some of them may have had to "work" a bit in winning her over (that depends on the woman), but even then, those guys still have self-worth, and don't ridiculously devote 24/7 of their time (including mentally i.e. thinking) towards the woman. Their own lives (career, friends, family, hobbies, etc.) are still vitally important to them, and a lot of them try to integrate or include their girlfriends into some parts of their lives - and vice versa.

 

 

Right now I do not have much time to date going back to college full time and working full time takes up all my time for the most part.

 

I am giving up dating , friends , family , tv, Xbox ,drinking, partying, sports, working out , meeting new people, sleep , sex, going out , and every thing I once enjoyed to get to my goals.

 

 

Also what kind of woman going to give a guy the time of day that works a dead end job with no money and no room for advancement sure I make enough to pay my bills and college out of pocket and car payment with a few bucks left over. Also on top of that I nor make almost $20 an hour and it will not feed a family that way I want \them to be feed.

 

Retail suck big time no upward moblity unless you suck up or lay on your back. I just cant see myself working retail until I am 60 years old than be a Wall-mart greeter that not a life goal.

 

I think it would help if I got more sleep but I am not giving up the adderall I can function fine with out it but chose not to.

 

I would say an average I get 30 hours of sleep a week some times 26 hours of sleep it overrated.

 

As far as the thug thing goes you can feel that way I don't feel that way about myself . Hell I had a ton more friends back then .

 

I sometimes get so irritated with people who are overly happy and social. No, it is not envy. IT IS IRRITATION. It scares me to think about trusting tons of people and letting them into your life.

 

Usually the more positive a person is, the more negative and out of touch of reality they are.

 

Why Intelligent People Tend To Be Unhappy interesting read

Why Intelligent People Tend To Be Unhappy

 

I feel I like myself most days . I am Happy when I accomplish things and get a good grade on a test.

 

I try not to get too happy because I know bad stuff coming around the bend to punch my in the mouth.

 

What is so wrong with using the fear for hating your self as motivation. It is more of I do not want to be saying paper or plastic for the rest of my life . I do not want to be 60 working a dead end job crying myself to sleep every night with no family but 13 crazy cats.

 

People say be happy for what you have well what if you do not have anything than what?

[KatZee]

Jesus.

 

And I thought I WAS picky!

 

The funny thing is, there is a legit bulleted list... around 25 bullets deep of "requirements" that this guy needs from a woman in order to date her.

 

What's that sound? Crickets? The echo of high-fives? "yeahh mann you go get your Queen!"

 

Meanwhile, if a woman on here so much as just says she prefers her date to have a college degree it's like taking a stroll through Jalalabad, firefights left and right.

 

"Nah girl you're wayyyy too picky. He doesn't need a degree. I'VE dated someone without a degree. Enjoy being single. You'll NEVER get a boyfriend being as picky as you are."

 

What... the...

[loveweary11]

My post was directed mostly at a guy above it, not at your original post, but....

 

 

It is in some ways my standards are high as they should be.

 

 

• I like Non white more mostly Asian, Ethiopian , and Somali, don't LOL hey are tall, surprisingly curvy . Also any other woman of color .Open to dating white woman just do not find too many of them attractive .
   
  ++Easiest women in the world for a white guy to get. If you start asking some out, they will ALL say yes.
   
  
• NO kids
  
• Mom and dad still together a plus
   
  ++Can be more difficult to find, but they are there
   
  
• Can not be over wight or obese but thick woman that are naturally thick are OK.
   
  ++Thick is not obese, but we all have the same size skeleton. These are heavier chicks. Most common type. They are everywhere. Again, all will say yes.
   
  
• Have a career or be working towards something or own a business
   
  ++Not always easy to find.
   
  
• down to earth fun loving and so on
  
• NO extreme feminism for me no thanks the world does own you or me anything
  
• Has to take care of her self sorry woman where I live do not shave anymore even in the summer yes you see woman with hairy legs
   
  ++These are ok, but what?? What part of the country do you live in? Even hippie type girls I know are fully shaven... everywhere.
   
  
• Have a college degree
  
• knows how to act womanly in public and still can be for woman rights
  
• The biggest one of them all she has to be good in bed sorry to many woman just want to lay there and have the men do all the work I need more than that.
   
  The list is getting a little harder now. How about they go to school now or express tye desire to go to college? And usually, the prettier they are, the less they do in bed because they don't have to. A general rule I've discovered over the years.
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• Family oriented
  
• One last one dress like a female not all the time but where I live the dress like guys and I am willing to bet most have never worn I dress in there whole life. When all you clothes are from the men department it not a good thing.LOL
  
• Good mother instincts
  
• OH burp in public that is low class if we are at home it cool not when we are out with people having dinner.
  
• Likes the outdoors and to stay active.
  
• Knows how to cook and clean sorry if we have kids and I die what are you going to do ? Fast food ? Also I know how to cook as well so you do not have to do it all the time but if you cant how you going to feed the kids ? When I am not home?
  
• being good with money
  
• work no one wants to but if she cant keep a job for what ever reason not cool.
  
• Oh they to have a good relationship with there dad no daddy issues.
  

I think that is it of the top of my head .

 

 

Like I said it is complicated to find all that in one woman . I just picked the most important ones as must haves.

 

That's a big list. You're going to have to make a lot of compromises to have a human being that's a female to be with.

 

I'd think hard about pruning the list way down.

 

My list has always been this one: Someone I'm attracted to who isva good person inside.

/End List

 

A few preferences can be added, but I start with a completely open mind, get to know the girl, then get a feeling if she's right or not. Checklists make people lonely.

Edited April 22, 2015 by loveweary11

[KatZee]

I sometimes get so irritated with people who are overly happy and social. No, it is not envy. IT IS IRRITATION. It scares me to think about trusting tons of people and letting them into your life.

 

Usually the more positive a person is, the more negative and out of touch of reality they are.

 

Why Intelligent People Tend To Be Unhappy interesting read

Why Intelligent People Tend To Be Unhappy

 

LOL

 

I am one of these "happy and social" people you are so irritated with.

 

Can you explain to me how the more positive I am, the more negative I am? I'm not quite grasping this. Then again, I may not be as intelligent as you are.

 

Seriously though, I'm very intelligent. Not only book smart but common sense, and street smart. I'm a very happy person. I always see the good in the day, I'm not a complainer at all, the sun shining on my face is all it takes for me to have an amazing day.

 

I'm a very simple person. I don't chase materialism, I chase experience. I follow that which makes me happy and I leave everything else behind me.

 

Out of touch with reality? I think people who are out of touch with reality, are just out. of. touch. with. reality.

 

It has nothing to do with how you go about viewing life, either glass half full, or half empty.

 

Also, it's possible to be happy and social, and limit who you let into your life. I don't let JUST ANYONE into my little oasis bubble that surrounds me. Are you a bad judge of character? Do you lack boundaries where people are just free to do whatever they want?