xxoo Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Women should act feminine, not masculine. We like women because they are just that, women. Women should be fairly soft spoken, polite, and carry themselves with at least a certain degree of modesty and mystery. Dare I call it class. I not mind a woman who can be ‘one of the guys’, per se, but not at the cost of her femininity. Classy women want classy men. Are you classy? What do you mean by letting you be a man? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
BlueIvy Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Is it me or men that are worth a darn not bad enough? Well ladys I done things that will make your so called bad boy boyfriend look like a girl scout. Has you Bf been to juvenile correctional facility more than once? Also I done some drug trafficking with the intent to disrupt that if i was ever caught I would be seeing 5 to 20 years in jail so beat that. Oh not to brag but I am not talking about kids stuff I am talking about bottles full of schedule 2 prescription drugs. Now I do not do that anymore and do not talk to these people or want anything to do with them. I just grow up and done with that now. I said all that to prove a point that yes i can be a bad boy too try me. Well you know I am working and going to college now and getting my life in order sort of speak I am not going to tell you what I field I am going into. I just do not want people to think i am a bad person. That being said it seems to me that women don’t seek out comfort or stability in men anymore—they seek entertainment. They seek distraction. Once the entertainment or novelty you provide her declines—and it inevitably will she moves on to something or someone else. In essence, the only way you can keep a girl is if you adopt the mentality of a soap opera writer, adding a cliffhanger to the end of each episode that keeps a woman interested when being a good man no longer does. Woman to me are more into losers with no goals or dreams in life.I am not wired to sit around all day and play ps4 . I know too many woman that put up with a guy sitting at home not wanting to work or help around the house. It seems OK for a guy not to be able to hold down a job or even try to look for one. The only thing i can think of is woman want to be entertained so badly that him working will cut into that. My question is why is it so hard to find a woman that wants to start a family and have kids . Yes I am all for woman working and having equal rights. My issue is some woman see men as the enemy and some woman see this as a game to one up there BF. I sorry woman it not a game if we are building a future together we are a team . I will be good at things and you will be good at things and we support one another but it seem woman are not interested in that. BTW I feel I am a good man I not perfect but who is ? I Don’t care much what others think of me , great public speaker you know wakes things happen , Call people on their bull**** and have a sensitive side even thought I try to hide it some times. LOL I think morals and values are changing. It's funny to hear men say this because I hear women my age say this too. I disagree with you, I prefer a good man but seems they are a minority. Also, keep in mind a good man or good woman is subjective. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Krieger Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 Classy women want classy men. Are you classy? What do you mean by letting you be a man? Men want to love women, not compete with them. They want to provide for and protect their families are their DNA. A man needs to make decisions and take responsibility for the outcome. If he's reluctant to make decisions, she may resent him. If a man wants to be seen as worthy and have a good relationship with a woman, he has to show leadership. Yes, I am a classy guy I also went to a privet school for a little bit and had to be respectful or you get in trouble. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
William Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Thread starter, my apologies. You saw some of the pejorative crap before I could get it cleaned up. Trust that it's been handled. This thread is one of our sample threads for the new gender bashing policies scheduled to hit the forum presently. Hence, as a general directive, I'd strongly suggest adhering to topic and showing respect for fellow members. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Krieger Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 I hope woman do not think i am being a jerk. I am just frustrated with modern woman and dating. I know I am a good guy and will make a good dad. People can say what they want about me it is there opinion. Also if I am such a bad guy how come you will not find a person alive to say anything bad about me? Next I do things for people not because I have to I just want to . Link to post Share on other sites
Leigh 87 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I hope woman do not think i am being a jerk. I am just frustrated with modern woman and dating. I know I am a good guy and will make a good dad. People can say what they want about me it is there opinion. Also if I am such a bad guy how come you will not find a person alive to say anything bad about me? Next I do things for people not because I have to I just want to . That's Great. I am a good woman and would make a good mum. But the world doesn't owe it to me to provide for me the men I want. I hAve to work out, look nice and better myself and really make the most out of life IF I want the decent men to want to date me. Link to post Share on other sites
KatZee Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I hope woman do not think i am being a jerk. I am just frustrated with modern woman and dating. I know I am a good guy and will make a good dad. People can say what they want about me it is there opinion. Also if I am such a bad guy how come you will not find a person alive to say anything bad about me? Next I do things for people not because I have to I just want to . Maybe you should redirect your frustration from things you can't control, to things you can control. You're frustrated with modern "women" and dating, why? Because you've run into "women" who don't want a good man anymore? This is not even a little bit accurate. If you notice, I'm putting "women" in quotation marks. These are not women, but entitled overgrown girls. Yes, there are a ton of females on this planet who don't live in reality, but think they're entitled to things just because they are female. There are some who are so broken that all they do is run to the broken males, the abusers, the "a_s$holes." But the thing is, you don't WANT these broken females, so why are you so frustrated? Be glad that you can see their crazy dysfunction, and avoid them. There are a lot of great women in this world (cough cough) who hold their values close, and morals in their heart. In my earlier posts, I said that I can say the same thing about men. I'm a great catch. I have x, y, and z attributes. I'd make a great girlfriend, Unfortunately, it's extremely difficult for me to find a guy who even wants to date me. The majority of guys don't want to date me for whatever reason. They want to talk to me all the time. They want to "hang out," they try to get as much as they can from me with giving very little back. Unfortunately for all these guys, I'm not an idiot. I can smell them a mile away and I adjust MYSELF (the only person I can control), accordingly. I don't waste time with these people, as quickly as I am to be like "Oh maybe you're cool," I'll be just as quick to throw them back into the dating pond. No time for time wasters! The less time you waste on people who have little to no value, and who do little to nothing for you, is the second you get rid of them. And these people wave their red flags REAL early on, you just have to have your eyes open, and not go through life in a false reality. I've avoided many bullets by just being observant, and aware, and because of this, I can't sit here and say, "I'm so frustrateddd wahhhh." I don't give unworthy males the opportunity to even get me frustrated, it's just "next." And I know that if I always have my eyes open, I stay true to myself and what I want and need from a man, that one day I'm going to meet the decent guy that wants to actually date, seriously, and monogamously. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Men want to love women, not compete with them. They want to provide for and protect their families are their DNA. A man needs to make decisions and take responsibility for the outcome. If he's reluctant to make decisions, she may resent him. If a man wants to be seen as worthy and have a good relationship with a woman, he has to show leadership. Yes, I am a classy guy I also went to a privet school for a little bit and had to be respectful or you get in trouble. How does a woman not let you be a man? What do you mean by compete with men? You say you want a woman who works and makes at least as much money as you. Mothers also provide and protect. Believe me, I am one I understand the male drive to do so, but a woman is not competing with you, she is working with you, on the same team, to provide and protect. That needs to be respected. It sounds like you want a woman who will be your equal in providing, but in her place with regard to making decisions and speaking up. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
KatZee Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 This may or may not be a good example: just yesterday two guys asked me on a date. I've been talking to both from my OLD days. So, unrelated to that, last week I encountered a homeless man on the streets of NYC. He had a really sad sign up saying that his backpack was stolen and he lost everything. That night I went out and I made a care package for him, I bought him a whole bunch of essentials, food, water. Put it in a backpack to give to him. That day, I was talking to both of these guys. I told the story to both of them. Guy #1: "You're so nice, that's really sweet." He even asked more about the guy, and in the following days he actually inquired about it again, asking how it went, etc etc. He was interested in my life, what I had done. Guy #2: "haha." Do you see the difference? Yes, I have a date with guy #2 set up, but I already don't care. He doesn't seem like a person who aligns with my morals, and the way I go about life. I did something nice for someone and all he did was laugh and change the subject. He didn't care, he wasn't interested, selfless behavior completely blazed right over his head. He doesn't seem like a person who would do the same for a complete stranger, or anything caring for a stranger for that matter at all. Maybe I'm jumping the gun, but from speaking with him up until that point, and how I feel, it's not really worth it to me to invest anything more past this first date. Frustrated? Nah. Just weeding out more people I don't feel are right for me. I feel like the longer I date, the more hyper-aware I am of the people that cross my path. Does this make sense? Link to post Share on other sites
Leigh 87 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 This may or may not be a good example: just yesterday two guys asked me on a date. I've been talking to both from my OLD days. So, unrelated to that, last week I encountered a homeless man on the streets of NYC. He had a really sad sign up saying that his backpack was stolen and he lost everything. That night I went out and I made a care package for him, I bought him a whole bunch of essentials, food, water. Put it in a backpack to give to him. That day, I was talking to both of these guys. I told the story to both of them. Guy #1: "You're so nice, that's really sweet." He even asked more about the guy, and in the following days he actually inquired about it again, asking how it went, etc etc. He was interested in my life, what I had done. Guy #2: "haha." Do you see the difference? Yes, I have a date with guy #2 set up, but I already don't care. He doesn't seem like a person who aligns with my morals, and the way I go about life. I did something nice for someone and all he did was laugh and change the subject. He didn't care, he wasn't interested, selfless behavior completely blazed right over his head. He doesn't seem like a person who would do the same for a complete stranger, or anything caring for a stranger for that matter at all. Maybe I'm jumping the gun, but from speaking with him up until that point, and how I feel, it's not really worth it to me to invest anything more past this first date. Frustrated? Nah. Just weeding out more people I don't feel are right for me. I feel like the longer I date, the more hyper-aware I am of the people that cross my path. Does this make sense? Omg. I do the same thing to weed out men.. I tell them about my volunteer work with disadvantaged children. Nothing much, plenty of people volunteer and do nice things so I don't big note myself. They ask how my day went. I answer with " well I spent time with this kid today doing x y and a..... For this charitable organisation. My current bf said " aww that's so sweet " Men who don't take an interest aren't nice people. Plain and simple. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
road Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 That day, I was talking to both of these guys. I told the story to both of them. Guy #1: "You're so nice, that's really sweet." He even asked more about the guy, and in the following days he actually inquired about it again, asking how it went, etc etc. He was interested in my life, what I had done. Guy #2: "haha." Do you see the difference? ? The difference I see is No 1 is a man that knows all the right things to say to get into a woman's pants. No 2 is he laughing in approval as good for you or laughing at you for being a fool? Or just laughing because he does not have the social skills to come up with a better response. People are on OLD because they are players or have a hard time dating due too poor skills. Link to post Share on other sites
KatZee Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The difference I see is No 1 is a man that knows all the right things to say to get into a woman's pants. No 2 is he laughing in approval as good for you or laughing at you for being a fool? Or just laughing because he does not have the social skills to come up with a better response. People are on OLD because they are players or have a hard time dating due too poor skills. I've been talking to both for a little while now. #1 isn't a "smooth operator" believe me, I know what a "I wanna just get in your pants" dude looks like. There is no shortage of them orbiting around me. #2, I don't care what his reason for laughing was. And yes, he has social skills, he has no problem speaking about whatever it is he wants to speak about. #3 I was on OLD. I am not a player. I don't have an issue with social skills. Can't use a wide brush to paint the entire canvas. Link to post Share on other sites
loveweary11 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) Kat and Leigh's posts are interesting here. Interesting tests, because I'd pass Leigh's test and fail Kat's test. I'm quite interested in helping people. I do it all the time by favoring the disadvantaged in deciding who to hire or flat out giving things to people. I pay for people in check out lines who are short on money, help out people who get into bad situations. However, I'm going to guess Kat has lived in NY for less than 3 years? Once you are there a while, the sheer number of people accosting you for money, to buy this or that, to buy candy for their baseball team (they are like 26 years old) and to generally hassle you while you are going about your day causes you to give zero f's about any of them. I don't even see these people. They become part of the sidewalk and buildings, like a mailbox or a trash can. No joke. I don't hear them anymore either. So I have zero respect for beggars, while I do help lots of people in need on a daily basis. I am choosy about who I help. There is only one street guy I like in Manhattan. There is a guy on 44th and 6th by the Duane Reade that walks up and down the sidewalk screaming gibberish at the top of his lungs. He scares the hell out of a lot of people but keeps to himself. He collects bottles for redemption. One day, I was finishing a bottle while walking by. He was screaming at the top of his lungs, as usual. I was looking for a trash can and noticed his bottle stash, so I put the bottke directly in his stash bin. He stopped screaming, looked me in the eye, calm as can be and said thank you very sincerely in a calm and pleasant voice.... then went immediately back to screaming nonsense. ha ha ha Guy gets my respect because he's not asking for things on the street and hassling people. He collects his own bottles and is trying, not begging. Huge difference to me. Edited April 23, 2015 by loveweary11 1 Link to post Share on other sites
KatZee Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 However, I'm going to guess Kat has lived in NY for less than 3 years? Once you are there a while, the sheer number of people accosting you for money, to buy this or that, to buy candy for their baseball team (they are like 26 years old) and to generally hassle you while you are going about your day causes you to give zero f's about any of them. I don't even see these people. They become part of the sidewalk and buildings, like a mailbox or a trash can. No joke. I don't hear them anymore either. So I have zero respect for beggars, while I do help lots of people in need on a daily basis. I am choosy about who I help. Born and bred New Yorker of almost 31 years now. I kinda feel sorry for you when you say you don't even notice these people. They are "just part of the sidewalk." These are human beings, not scenery. They were once someone's baby. I make it a point to look at every homeless person I pass on the street. But of course you have the obnoxious one's who are full of garbage. I never hand out money to people peddling on the train, I don't give money to homeless on the street. You don't know where that money is going. I've been watching this particular homeless person for months. He's small. Twenty something. He's been on the street since before this brutal winter, and he's gone from being alert, speaking to people who pass him, to slumped, eyes closed, and like he's given up. I wanted to do something nice for him. But this of course isn't the point. My point was, if a guy I'm potentially going to date, literally does not give a crap about doing nice things for people, and who laughs at something kind I do, that is not a person I'm going to date seriously. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Conners Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Kat and Leigh's posts are interesting here. Interesting tests, because I'd pass Leigh's test and fail Kat's test. I'm quite interested in helping people. I do it all the time by favoring the disadvantaged in deciding who to hire or flat out giving things to people. I pay for people in check out lines who are short on money, help out people who get into bad situations. However, I'm going to guess Kat has lived in NY for less than 3 years? Once you are there a while, the sheer number of people accosting you for money, to buy this or that, to buy candy for their baseball team (they are like 26 years old) and to generally hassle you while you are going about your day causes you to give zero f's about any of them. I don't even see these people. They become part of the sidewalk and buildings, like a mailbox or a trash can. No joke. I don't hear them anymore either. So I have zero respect for beggars, while I do help lots of people in need on a daily basis. I am choosy about who I help. There is only one street guy I like in Manhattan. There is a guy on 44th and 6th by the Duane Reade that walks up and down the sidewalk screaming gibberish at the top of his lungs. He scares the hell out of a lot of people but keeps to himself. He collects bottles for redemption. One day, I was finishing a bottle while walking by. He was screaming at the top of his lungs, as usual. I was looking for a trash can and noticed his bottle stash, so I put the bottke directly in his stash bin. He stopped screaming, looked me in the eye, calm as can be and said thank you very sincerely in a calm and pleasant voice.... then went immediately back to screaming nonsense. ha ha ha Guy gets my respect because he's not asking for things on the street and hassling people. He collects his own bottles and is trying, not begging. Huge difference to me. I was in NYC for two weeks and didn't see the homeless people by the end of it. Same here in Australia, I see different beggers in the city all the time and laugh at the people who are stupid enough to give them money so they can spend it on drugs and alcohol. There are homeless shelters and the government gives out welfare so there is no need to be be begging on the streets for a smoke and change. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
KatZee Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 There are homeless shelters and the government gives out welfare so there is no need to be be begging on the streets for a smoke and change. This is severely off topic but you can't get welfare if you do not have a permanent address. Hence the word "home less." Also, shelters are so overrun, and so low on funds that they can't help all the homeless that even exist. There are a lot of churches that try to help the homeless and they have certain hours designated for food distribution. The information specifically will say, "Only 50 sandwiches to give out. First come first serve." People with jobs are struggling as is, there is not some limitless coffer of funds for the homeless. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Leigh 87 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 This is severely off topic but you can't get welfare if you do not have a permanent address. Hence the word "home less." Also, shelters are so overrun, and so low on funds that they can't help all the homeless that even exist. There are a lot of churches that try to help the homeless and they have certain hours designated for food distribution. The information specifically will say, "Only 50 sandwiches to give out. First come first serve." People with jobs are struggling as is, there is not some limitless coffer of funds for the homeless. Plus potential dating partners who lack the ability to see homelessness from the perspective of a homeless person, are no prize. I would be homeless. I took drugs and dropped out of college and was wayward for years. My parents have me a second change and now I'm top of my class in a podiatry degree. Also one of the only people in my cohort who works in the field already. So if a guy can't recognise that many of US normal looking people could have very easily been rendered homeless had we not been so fortunate in life, they definately lack depth in their character ( so as to simplify homelessness as " of they just made bad decisions, shame on them!). Link to post Share on other sites
KatZee Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Plus potential dating partners who lack the ability to see homelessness from the perspective of a homeless person, are no prize. I would be homeless. I took drugs and dropped out of college and was wayward for years. My parents have me a second change and now I'm top of my class in a podiatry degree. Also one of the only people in my cohort who works in the field already. So if a guy can't recognise that many of US normal looking people could have very easily been rendered homeless had we not been so fortunate in life, they definately lack depth in their character ( so as to simplify homelessness as " of they just made bad decisions, shame on them!). Good job moving this back on the dating track Yeah, I think a lot of the dating problems in the world would be solved, if people really just were patient, and weeded out the 99% of people who don't complement their own person. I see a lot of people getting into relationships with people who are clearly damaged, hung up on someone else, who have mismatched values, who has Red Flag #1, 2, and 3 waving in the wind but it just goes ignored. And then it's no wonder that people are so frustrated with dating. Nothing ever works out! I keep picking the wrong people! I think people like to project who they think their partner is, they project what they want them to be, and 9.5/10 that person is not going to be what they were imagined to be. So, I'm not going to date someone who thinks it's hilarious that I do nice things for the homeless. I'm not going to date someone who shows a clear lack of empathy, I'm not going to date someone who is so disinterested in how I spend my free time. If it takes me longer to find a boyfriend, oh well. By the time I DO find one, you know he's going to be a perfect fit, and match for me! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Leigh 87 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I wouldn't even be friends with someone who thought it was hilarious to help out the homeless I want a good man, as the title of this thread seems to conflict with. I don't understand why men think that women innately go for bad boys I mean, duh, the men we go for and who turn out to be less than delightful DO actually start out normal. WE wouldn't go for men who were openly laughing about helping the homeless. As KatZee highlighted. Link to post Share on other sites
loveweary11 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I feel sorry for you that you fall for these scams. Very few beggars are in as much need as they pretend to be. I don't care at all for anyone too lazy to even put a small effort in to help themselves. Even my man on 44th and 6th, so mentally ill he can't help but scream out verbal diarrhea all day long supports himself. If you want to contribute to drug and alcohol addiction, general laziness and people doing nothing but sitting and waiting for others to support them, you are part of the problem. More mental health funding would be a good step to get many of them off the streets. The other half, the lazy and addicted, you are enabling them. If the addicts don't make it, so be it. Natural selection. We all choose our paths in life, except the mentally ill. Those who aren't chose this path. Born and bred New Yorker of almost 31 years now. I kinda feel sorry for you when you say you don't even notice these people. They are "just part of the sidewalk." These are human beings, not scenery. They were once someone's baby. I make it a point to look at every homeless person I pass on the street. But of course you have the obnoxious one's who are full of garbage. I never hand out money to people peddling on the train, I don't give money to homeless on the street. You don't know where that money is going. I've been watching this particular homeless person for months. He's small. Twenty something. He's been on the street since before this brutal winter, and he's gone from being alert, speaking to people who pass him, to slumped, eyes closed, and like he's given up. I wanted to do something nice for him. But this of course isn't the point. My point was, if a guy I'm potentially going to date, literally does not give a crap about doing nice things for people, and who laughs at something kind I do, that is not a person I'm going to date seriously. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
loveweary11 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Plus potential dating partners who lack the ability to see homelessness from the perspective of a homeless person, are no prize. I would be homeless. I took drugs and dropped out of college and was wayward for years. My parents have me a second change and now I'm top of my class in a podiatry degree. Also one of the only people in my cohort who works in the field already. So if a guy can't recognise that many of US normal looking people could have very easily been rendered homeless had we not been so fortunate in life, they definately lack depth in their character ( so as to simplify homelessness as " of they just made bad decisions, shame on them!). Yeah. You chose that path. YOU took and became addicted to drugs. YOU chose to drop out of school. You live with your choices. I have been homeless myself. Had an abusive step father who beat me at 5am constantly. I was 17. Had to drop out of high school, get a GED. Lived in a car for a year and on friends' couches and spare rooms in their houses. (we didn't have actual streets...it was rural). From this start in life, I got a GED, a Masters in Physics and a minor in Computer Science. My first job out of college was NASA. I've worked many high end white collar jobs and my own startups and have owned my own businesses since 2000, never in that time working for anyone else. I chose NOT to take drugs or drop out of school, which I worked my ass off to get into from being a homeless teenager. So... i give zero f's about people who are beggars and who choose to take drugs. We all have choices in life. You make stupid ones, you live with them. Not my responsibility to help you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lokin4AReason Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) from what I can tell ( and have been trying some dating site(s) for sometime ), is that they don't want a safe guy ( a guy w/o any risks in cheating on them ) but they rather have the bad boy imagine ( at who has no respect of moral(s) except for himself its I don't hate the game, just the player(s) playing the game ... ( children play game(s) IMO ) but again everyone has a story and as mentioned, lifes nothing more than choice(s) ( either looking at it, the short term or for the long haul ) Edited April 23, 2015 by Lokin4AReason Link to post Share on other sites
Rejected Rosebud Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Where I live the PNW woman will not give you the time of day if you don't have a good job, nice car , dress nice, in shape, confident , outgoing , aloof, semi-A hole and challenge.Have a ton of friends and can keep her entertained and not be boring. I live in the PNW and I call BS on that sorry!! I know a lot of other girls too, not just speaking for myself!! Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I think that underscores the importance of demographics in such matters, in that different demographics can provide completely different experiences, relevant to person. As an example, where I'm moving to on the Oregon coast, there exists a completely different lifestyle than if I moved to Portland, the largest city in Oregon. Life is different, people are different, interactions are different and, for the OP, how he perceives the women wanting a good man can be completely different too. I experienced some of this when getting pushback from women who lived in big cities contemplating moving to a relatively rural lifestyle, my exW being one of them, having grown up in SoCal (Orange County to be precise). It's simply a different viewpoint. Sometimes it's reconcilable; other times not. Bottom line is, if there's no attraction, there's no attraction, good man or not. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Krieger Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 How does a woman not let you be a man? What do you mean by compete with men? You say you want a woman who works and makes at least as much money as you. Mothers also provide and protect. Believe me, I am one I understand the male drive to do so, but a woman is not competing with you, she is working with you, on the same team, to provide and protect. That needs to be respected. It sounds like you want a woman who will be your equal in providing, but in her place with regard to making decisions and speaking up. well lets say Me and a woman get married and both of us have careers. Well someone is going to have to fall back some to a more domestic role once we have kids. Lets say I get promoted but It longer hours and more time away from home I just do not want her to resent me for it . That I got promoted and she did not . I will never tell the mother of my kids she not doing enough and throw the fact I got promoted and she did not. I just do not what her to see this as she has to one up me if I get promoted and she does not. If she get promoted and I do not I will not sit there and feel like i have to one up her. I will admit I will feel like I am not providing and being a good husband . I just do not want her to get man because I clean a different then she does and yes I will make mistakes and it never going to be perfect but degrade me . That being said I am far from lazy . things around the houses are going to get done just not the way she would do them. She would also have to understand that if I worked and feel back into more of a domestic role it goes against my biology and the way I am wired . I know if I have a wife and kids to feed I will do every thing I can as a man to make sure we have every thing we need. In a perfect world I much rather give my woman the option to stay home with the kids as long as she wanted to and not feel like she has to work right away. I would be cool with her working part time and spend more time with the kids until there older and start school. I will support her in what ever she chooses to do. On the flip side if she got promoted I will full back into a more domestic role but she better not hold it over my head . I know to many guy the there woman makes more and they throw it in there face . As a man I would feel so disrespected and hurt . If i am working and taking on a more domestic role I want her to apprecat it not act like I am not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites
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