Why do women feel they own you after you've slept together?

[NewBabe]

Originally posted by curiousnycgirl

 

 

Secondly - I am so very tired of everyone disparaging women who have sex after only one or two dates. We have needs too! My friends knew I was serious with my current b/f when I actually let him spend the night. The fact that we had sex early (on the first date as a matter of fact) was only our being honest that we both had needs and luckily we were there to fill them for eachother.

 

 

Exactamondo. For every woman that has sex on the 1st or 2nd date, there is also a man who has sex on the 1st or 2nd date.

[followingthru]

Originally posted by alphamale

too early to tell rite now EC. it has started off as a sexual thing and will most likely end as that.

 

you say too early to tell, but it sounds like you have made up your mind already. i understand not being honest with friends about things like that, but you should be honest on the forum you are posting in for advice.

 

you seem to recognize that a lot of women think differently about these things than a lot of men do. that gives you power. and with great power comes great responsibility!

 

this didn't start off sexual - it started with a date, not f*cking the same night you met. and you said it was the 2nd date when you had sex, right? so it wasn't immediately sexual, it was dating. you called it dating yourself.

 

and this woman gave you some signals. even tho she f*cked you that night, she said she wasn't going to. that is a signal. combined with the fact that she did pull you back in and sleep with you, it is the signal for "i am not looking to be slutty here, but i like you, and if this isn't a one night stand, then we can do it"

 

so anyway, back to the responsibility part, i think you knew that she wanted more than just a good f*ck or two. since you knew it, you don't get to complain about it after you took advantage of the situation to get what you wanted. further, it is my contention that if you did know that, then it was your responsibility to tell her that f*cking her was just f*cking her - that you weren't ready to commit to even the possibility of a relationship blooming just yet.

[blue17]

Well, atleast we've proven that alphamales' theory of women who ask for the guys' number but don't give out their own.

 

Either

 

a) they don't give out their number because they aren't interested (don't want the guy calling) so they ask for the guys' number instead just to make it an easier rejection.

 

or...

 

b) they're insecure/desperate and want to make sure they can get in contact with the guy later because they are unsure of whether he would call or not if she gave her number.

 

Of course these doesn't apply to EVERY SINGLE situation, but from what i've heard here and from my experience, I believe it's true.

[alphamale]

Originally posted by goodnbad

Perhaps you should avoid professional, college educated women? Although logically you would think that people with a higher education would be LESS needy, since they don't need a man to take care of them, monetarily-speaking. Sadly, standing by my previous opinion, loonies know no bounds.

that's funny GOODNBAD. Maybe I should start scouring the trailer parks looking for new talent?

 

Originally posted by curiousnycgirl

Secondly - I am so very tired of everyone disparaging women who have sex after only one or two dates. We have needs too!

 

Alpha I think your first mistake was spending the night.

you're prob right CURIOUSNYGURL. But when the dust settles it is the woman who has the key to her vagina and should try to make the man wait. Most men will have sex at the drop of a hat cause we are weak this way. If she is looking for a relationship then she should not have given up the nookie so quick. It also makes me respect her less.

 

The last woman I dated did not give up the nookie until we had been dating for almost 2 months and I liked that although I would have banged her before that had she given me the chance.

 

Originally posted by NewBabe

Exactamondo. For every woman that has sex on the 1st or 2nd date, there is also a man who has sex on the 1st or 2nd date.

A man will have sex whenever he can. It is the mans job to try to get nookie as soon as possible and the womans job to make him hold off until she is ready.

 

 

Originally posted by followingthru

so anyway, back to the responsibility part, i think you knew that she wanted more than just a good f*ck or two. since you knew it, you don't get to complain about it after you took advantage of the situation to get what you wanted. further, it is my contention that if you did know that, then it was your responsibility to tell her that f*cking her was just f*cking her - that you weren't ready to commit to even the possibility of a relationship blooming just yet.

I already told her that but not in those words exactly "f***ing you is just f***ing you". I have not committed to anything and tried to keep everything nebulous.

 

 

Originally posted by blue17

Well, atleast we've proven that alphamales' theory of women who ask for the guys' number but don't give out their own.

 

Either

 

a) they don't give out their number because they aren't interested (don't want the guy calling) so they ask for the guys' number instead just to make it an easier rejection.

 

or...

 

b) they're insecure/desperate and want to make sure they can get in contact with the guy later because they are unsure of whether he would call or not if she gave her number.

 

Of course these doesn't apply to EVERY SINGLE situation, but from what i've heard here and from my experience, I believe it's true.

 

that's funny BLUE17.

[Lil Honey]

A’male:

 

Yes, I agree that SOME women may want to suck the life out of a man, but the tone of a lot of your posts is that you feel ALL women do. Although I’ve never had experience in this, I would think it’s exactly like the women who get PG and the guy leaves – her life has changed for LIFE . . . one scenario is much is easier to change than the other.

 

why do they become so posessive and demanding once you've had sex??

I dunno. I’ve never been in a short term relationship, nor have I been possessive or demanding. Maybe this reoccurrence is a sign that you need to think before you . . . ahem . . . sleep with someone.

 

I am aware of the above and could probably write a book on it.

If you have that much info, then you probably already know the answers to your questions.

 

After a few dates, who the hell knows? The wiring thing comes in later,

Which makes me wonder what ever happened to dating, which used to mean “learning about someone first”. It’s amazing how folks are willing to risk so much – except feelings - by having sex. Further, we are supposed to be a civilized society with logic, priorities, etc.

 

it is the woman who has the key to her vagina Most men will have sex at the drop of a hat cause we are weak this way.

Sooooo . . . women need to be in control because men don’t have the ability to be? ? ? ? ? *snickering*

[moimeme]

I am aware of the above and could probably write a book on it.

 

Then it's a little precious of you to be asking the question at all, isn't it? Are you just bragging about your 'conquest'?

[Moose]

Originally posted by moimeme

Then it's a little precious of you to be asking the question at all, isn't it? Are you just bragging about your 'conquest'?

It's about time someone said that!

[alphamale]

Originally posted by moimeme

Then it's a little precious of you to be asking the question at all, isn't it? Are you just bragging about your 'conquest'?

maybe a bit. and i know most of this alreeady but it is a good discussion topic and i'm interested in what others have to say.

[Moose]

I have an idea for you. Why don't you just copy, paste all of your quotes, (I compiled from your thread), print it off and hand it to her. One of two things can happen.

 

A. She'll cut bait and run.

 

B. She'll see the incredible amount of respect you have for all women, and dedicate her every waking moment serving her Alpha god.

 

A man will have sex whenever he can. It is the mans job to try to get nookie as soon as possible and the womans job to make him hold off until she is ready.

If she is looking for a relationship then she should not have given up the nookie so quick. It also makes me respect her less.

I would have banged her before that had she given me the chance.

It is the mans job to try to get nookie as soon as possible

I already told her that but not in those words exactly "f***ing you is just f***ing you".

That's sorta hard to say to a woman after she's given u the BJ of the century and let you splooge all over her face.

Maybe I'll just string her along for the sex until I find someone else.

She seemed disapointed but still wanted a hard f***.

You know, the totally normal biotch who becomes this raving jealous crazy insane female after she's been dissed by a man.

 

This isn't meant as an attack on you Alpha.....sometimes it just helps to listen to yourself once and awhile. It's obvious that you know what you want or don't want from this woman....you just haven't been crystal clear with her......stringing her along and using her to get your rocks off.......come on......do you have respect for any woman?

[CurlyIam]

Originally posted by alphamale

maybe a bit. and i know most of this alreeady but it is a good discussion topic and i'm interested in what others have to say.

 

I've only read the beginning of this tread because after that I felt I was about to get angry and ... it certainly doesn't worth the effort, because it's not like you're actually writing this to learn something or to change something within yourself. Not that it would be easy, but a little sign that you're at least thinking about what people with a different opinion of yours have to say would be ... a huge change.

 

All that being said... writing a book about what? As I see it, you've only got... let's say 10 pages tops to fill - unless you're planning to write porn and describe in detail what you did to whom.

 

I mean your pattern is so perdictable. You meet the gal - if she fits your phisical request you go on a date with her. At some moment she falls for you and you hit the sack. After that, it's the part "oh, she's such a demanding, life s!cking b!tch" and you leave. Pretty boring, if you ask me.

 

 

 

Alpha, you're 40. Most women you are about to date usually (let's say after 30) are looking for something serious. So unless you're planning to hit the early 20 years old gals, I say get used to this fact.

 

Curly

 

P.S. I was thinking about your pattern and about all those women who fall for your trick. And I realised that the best thing that is actually happening to them is the fact that within... a month, you're leaving .

[whichwayisup]

maybe a bit. and i know most of this alreeady but it is a good discussion topic and i'm interested in what others have to say.

 

Yup, and it always turns into an interesting convo flow...

[alphamale]

Originally posted by Moose

This isn't meant as an attack on you Alpha.....sometimes it just helps to listen to yourself once and awhile. It's obvious that you know what you want or don't want from this woman....you just haven't been crystal clear with her......stringing her along and using her to get your rocks off.......come on......do you have respect for any woman?

 

No offense taken MOOSE. You must keep in mind at all times that I like to come off as the "shock jock" of LS. I like to create controversy and fuel discussion whilst playing devil's advocate. It is mostly to boost my ratings. There is a difference betwwen my LS persona and my real-life persona.

 

Originally posted by CurlyIam

I've only read the beginning of this tread because after that I felt I was about to get angry and ... it certainly doesn't worth the effort, because it's not like you're actually writing this to learn something or to change something within yourself. Not that it would be easy, but a little sign that you're at least thinking about what people with a different opinion of yours have to say would be ... a huge change.

I am very interested in what others think and their viewpoints.

 

I mean your pattern is so perdictable. You meet the gal - if she fits your phisical request you go on a date with her.

Well CURLYIAM, this woman is nice, giving, smart, and has nice boobs but u know what. I'm really not that physically attracted to her. That is the problem. I don't think I could get involved with her long-term cause although I am attracted to her other qualities there is not enuf physical attraction from my end.

 

Alpha, you're 40. Most women you are about to date usually (let's say after 30) are looking for something serious. So unless you're planning to hit the early 20 years old gals, I say get used to this fact.

Yes I know this but thanks for reminiding me. THere are, however, many older women in their 30s and 40s with kids who are interested in more casual relationships cause they are too busy raising their children. Maybe that is a sub-group i should look at more. These women with kids tend to be much less demanding and clingy.

 

P.S. I was thinking about your pattern and about all those women who fall for your trick. And I realised that the best thing that is actually happening to them is the fact that within... a month, you're leaving .

[Lil Honey]

Originally posted by alphamale

You must keep in mind at all times that I like to come off as the "shock jock" of LS.

 

I'm not so sure that I believe this statement, but what I believe is irrelavent and doesn't matter.

 

With the way the world is, things don't shock me, just sadden me.

[CurlyIam]

Originally posted by alphamale

I am very interested in what others think and their viewpoints.

 

Yes, that's why you keep posting. But.. you're NEVER listening!

 

Originally posted by alphamale

Well CURLYIAM, this woman is nice, giving, smart, and has nice boobs but u know what. I'm really not that physically attracted to her. That is the problem. I don't think I could get involved with her long-term cause although I am attracted to her other qualities there is not enuf physical attraction from my end. .

 

Excuses, excuses.

 

Originally posted by alphamale

Yes I know this but thanks for reminiding me. THere are, however, many older women in their 30s and 40s with kids who are interested in more casual relationships cause they are too busy raising their children. Maybe that is a sub-group i should look at more. These women with kids tend to be much less demanding and clingy.

 

Don't tell me you actually believe that. I'm not saying it's not possible to run into someone like that, but generally speaking, if they have a kid, they would like someone stable, because jongling jobs, kids, and casual sex tends to be a bit too much work, don't you think? For cheap fun, that is, 'cause that's what meaningless sex is, agree?

 

 

What exactly do you want? The minute the woman seems interested you're off faster than lightening. The mere fact that you're getting intimate for a woman is a sign that... jeez, I don't know, she's definately interested in you and she's hoping for more, maybe?!? Don't let marketing experts fool you, most women do want a family, 2 kids, 2 family cars .. you know, the whole package!

 

 

I think you're so afraid to be happy and have a relationship that you are looking for a gal to treat you like a sex object, use you, eventually abuse you whenever she feels like it, so that it would be you the one that hurts and is clingy! I have no idea if you keep doing what you're doing because you're afraid to be happy or because you like to hurt.

 

I tend to believe it's second. And that's no problem. You're crazy about mind games. What can I say, whatever makes your day, baby!

[glow2]

Originally posted by Moose

sometimes it just helps to listen to yourself once and awhile. It's obvious that you know what you want or don't want from this woman....you just haven't been crystal clear with her......stringing her along and using her to get your rocks off.......come on......do you have respect for any woman?

 

Oh, and lets not forget this one :

Originally posted by alphamale on on April 11/2005

i am single and dating around and having casual sex with random women.

[whichwayisup]

Hey, he's been real honest and upfront about what he wants to share and not share with LSer's...Why all of a sudden the Roast of the day here on Alpha????

 

Not that this is bugging him...I'm sure he's amused of it all.

[Moose]

i'm interested in what others have to say.

I'm sure he can handle it.

[CurlyIam]

I do believe that he's honest. I'm being honest right back.

[Moose]

Besides, I'm just trying to make sure that the rest of the LS'rs understand that not all men think, act, do as the type of man Alpha seems to be.......men who think the way he does makes it's truly hard for the rest of us who know and understand what and who women truly are.

[laRubiaBonita]

Originally posted by Moose

Besides, I'm just trying to make sure that the rest of the LS'rs understand that not all men think, act, do as the type of man Alpha seems to be.......men who think the way he does makes it's truly hard for the rest of us who know and understand what and who women truly are.

 

Right. And not all women are like they are here on LS........ beautiful, independent, smart, caring.

 

which is why i love this place..... it is so amazing to me that soem people think the way that they do.

[alphamale]

Originally posted by Moose

Besides, I'm just trying to make sure that the rest of the LS'rs understand that not all men think, act, do as the type of man Alpha seems to be.......men who think the way he does makes it's truly hard for the rest of us who know and understand what and who women truly are.

I believe you will find MOOSE, that even some women on LS would agree that I know something about women and their nature. I get agreement and validation from them all the time here on LS.

[Lil Honey]

Originally posted by whichwayisup

Hey, he's been real honest and upfront about what he wants to share and not share with LSer's...Why all of a sudden the Roast of the day here on Alpha????

 

I wasn't "roasting" him. I simply said that I didn't necessarily "buy" his statement that he has said all that he said for the "fun" of it. It seems to me that if he was just funning, his attitude about women wouldn't be so awful nor so consistent over the course of time.

 

There was a thread once about something like a woman worrying about her boyfriend calling her when he said he would (or something similar). A'male kept saying how she was anchoring herself to her man, blah, blah, blah. And frankly, however the story went, I saw it more as a matter of respect in the relationship. There have been other posts in which A'male gives the impression that some woman yanked his chain and that's how he feels about ALL women.

 

With the tone of his past posts, I think that the above statement was made, because some posters on this thread are right, but he doesn't want to hear it, so made a "joke" out of it.

 

At any rate, if he is THAT certain that all women are out to boss men around, he probably isn't over whatever happened to him. If he is just telling us of his escapades for the "shock" value, not only did he fail, but he is in desperate need of attention.

 

There's an old saying about people getting treated the way they allow others to treat them.

[whichwayisup]

but he doesn't want to hear it, so maked a "joke" out of it.

 

I do that too! Just ask my hubby!

 

Yeah I was just teasing about. Alpha loves all this attention though!

[Moose]

Originally posted by alphamale

I believe you will find MOOSE, that even some women on LS would agree that I know something about women and their nature. I get agreement and validation from them all the time here on LS.

Just about everyone can say that with all honesty ALPHA. Diversity is a good thing.....especially when you're seeking different views on the same subject.

 

When you post, you make it sound as though you're speaking for all men. I'm making it clear that you're no authority.

[laRubiaBonita]

well HOPEFULLY the women on LS could tell from ALPHA's posts.........well any guy here really, that they were NOT the ultimate authority on Women.

 

Hell, half of us women think the guys mates are totally wack anyways!