GorillaTheater Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 We will be persecuted for our faith, even if it is just on message boards. It's a fact of being a Christian. Especially if you're Catholic, apparently. 4
Author csny111 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Posted April 29, 2015 Why are you repeating yourself? Because everyone seemed to pass up, when I said I had a career goal in mind.
pteromom Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Being angry at the world the Devil runs and controls, is only natural for a Christian. No it isn't. I am a Christian. Not a Catholic either. I do not let the world control me or my emotions. I trust in God, and the promises He made. He is in control. There is no reason to be angry. We will be persecuted for our faith, even if it is just on message boards. It's a fact of being a Christian. The problem is that, if everyone believed in Jesus, nobody would be able to persecute anymore, and we would be living in a world of love, and compassion. Unfortunately not true. Someone can believe very strongly and still be misguided, damaged, and angry. Heck - you have admitted YOU are angry, and you are a strong believer, right? So just believing in Jesus isn't enough to fill your heart with only love and compassion. Unfortunately, because of the fall of man, the majority of the world will turn away from Jesus Christ, and that is sad. And infuriating. I'm mad, on BEHALF of God!! You don't need to be angry on His behalf. He knows what He is doing, and He already knows what is happening - today, tomorrow, and so on. If He wanted things to be different, He has the power to change them at any time. I am happy I am living in 2015, as opposed to 1950, but not EVERYTHING needed to change!!! Focus on that which is in YOUR control. You can live your own life true to your beliefs, and you can find a husband who shares your beliefs. 1
d0nnivain Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 ...and Yes. I am not going to take a Catholic seriously. See this is where Christians lose everybody. You refuse to even consider the views of other religions. Think about it. Jesus was Jewish but I'm guess you don't care for Jews either. Then everybody was Catholic because Jesus built His Church upon a Rock -- St. Peter who became the First Pope and from which everybody else derived. Then Martin Luther took issue with some of the Church's teachings & we started having all sorts of splinter groups until we got to the hate mongers who you have aligned with. I'm willing to consider other view points but I refuse to debate close minded individuals who spew hate and Judgment, that includes born again "Christians"; militant Muslims and angry atheists. Tolerance will get you farther & closer to God then hate. Remember, Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Nobody threw rocks that day.
William Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Folks, before I start passing out sanctions and looking deeper at the posters involved, I want to give everyone a chance starting at this post to steer this thread back to it's original topic which is "Who pays for the wedding?" ~Thank you 2
Author csny111 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Posted April 29, 2015 Let's take this to the Spiritual/Religion thread. If I happen to bring it up over there. Anyway. The bride's parents should pay for the wedding, like the Old Fashioned way. Seeing as I'm not sure my parents can afford it, I am starting a savings of my own to help pay. I want the groom to pay for the honeymoon/license, since the honeymoon is more for him, and the day is more for me.
MuddyFootprints Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 I suppose your groom will be requiring his herd of cattle and goats, too?
clia Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 I think the bride and groom should pay for their own wedding. If the parents on either side want to help out, that's great, but it should not be expected. Have you informed your parents that you expect them to pay for your wedding? 4
Hope Shimmers Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Is your fiance good with all of this? I would think he would have equal say in how the wedding is planned, who pays, etc. Sorry I haven't read the whole thread
spanz1 Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 it is nice if the brides parents can pay for the wedding. but it is by no means essential. we had to take out a loan to float our wedding, and we BOTH paid it off after we got hitched. it is not a big deal at all. Your only problem may be in getting a loan without any equity. BTW, go CHEAP!!!!! put a tent in a backyard somewhere, get some iTunes mixes and a big stereo, have some aunts cook up a storm, and get a bunch of beer and wine! you can have a WONDErFUL wedding for maybe $4000. IF you have a fancy affair instead, really cut the invite list to the bone.
SJS Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Even though it's "tradition", I would not feel comfortable expecting my parents to pay for anything of mine after I am an adult. So that probably tells you who paid for my wedding...
Hope Shimmers Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Even though it's "tradition", I would not feel comfortable expecting my parents to pay for anything of mine after I am an adult. So that probably tells you who paid for my wedding... Agree... that tradition is left over from the prehistoric days, when women literally went from parents to groom. I think weddings are a huge waste of money anyway. It's just a bunch of unnecessary stress.
SJS Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Agree... that tradition is left over from the prehistoric days, when women literally went from parents to groom. I think weddings are a huge waste of money anyway. It's just a bunch of unnecessary stress. I did do exactly that...lived with parents to groom (well, we lived together for a few years before we got married...)
Hope Shimmers Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 I did do exactly that...lived with parents to groom (well, we lived together for a few years before we got married...) Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that never happens anymore - just was thinking more in terms of dowries, etc. 1
Rejected Rosebud Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Women are hard wired to dream of their wedding day, and with whom it will be, and with whom they will spend their lives with. Sorry but heck no!! :eek: My opinion is that if you get married it is up to you and your fiance to plan how you will celebrate the wedding and pay for it together. I don't know how old you are I am 25 and engaged, and that is how we are doing it and it is so fun!!! I will say that my guy would be pretty freaked out if I had planned our wedding all by myself and before we even met!!! Also good luck finding one who wants to be the "financial breadwinner" all your life!! I guess they are out there but all the couples I know both have careers!!! 1
SJS Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that never happens anymore - just was thinking more in terms of dowries, etc. No offense taken, I just wanted to throw it out there for the OP. lol 2
d0nnivain Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Is your fiance good with all of this? I would think he would have equal say in how the wedding is planned, who pays, etc. Sorry I haven't read the whole thread The OP does not currently have a BF
Hope Shimmers Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 The OP does not currently have a BF Huh? I spot-read some posts and saw that there was a dress picked out, music, etc and plans made for a wedding? Guess I should read the whole thread. Thanks. 2
Author csny111 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Posted April 30, 2015 it is nice if the brides parents can pay for the wedding. but it is by no means essential. we had to take out a loan to float our wedding, and we BOTH paid it off after we got hitched. it is not a big deal at all. Your only problem may be in getting a loan without any equity. BTW, go CHEAP!!!!! put a tent in a backyard somewhere, get some iTunes mixes and a big stereo, have some aunts cook up a storm, and get a bunch of beer and wine! you can have a WONDErFUL wedding for maybe $4000. IF you have a fancy affair instead, really cut the invite list to the bone. Well, weddings do best if you don't do a big expense, but not THAT cheap!!! I have it planned out how I want it to look etc... the colors, the cake, the dress, etc... 'course I haven't TRIED the dress on, so I could hate it on, but me & my friend were looking at wedding dresses one day and she actually picked it out for me. I fell in love with it instantly. My parents know how traditional I am, and I am staying with them until I am married, and they know that.
Author csny111 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Posted April 30, 2015 OP, is this a religious thing for you? Let's stay on topic plz.
SJS Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Let's stay on topic plz. Doesn't tradition and religion go hand in hand a lot of the time? I'd say it is on topic.
Author csny111 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Posted April 30, 2015 I did do exactly that...lived with parents to groom (well, we lived together for a few years before we got married...) The only way I would consider living with a groom before the wedding, would be if he lived in my parents house, in a separate bedroom or something. But, we don't have that big of a house. I'd do it somewhat Duggar style, where the girl is never in the room alone with the guy. Speaking of the Duggars, I wonder who paid for THEIR weddings???? Is that off topic? I'm trying to steer it back to topic... I have brought it up to my parents about paying for the wedding, and my mom didn't even bat an eyelash. I figure I will wait until the time comes, to start to really bring it up, though. That's why I stated, I have taken it upon myself to start saving myself! The groom pays for the majority of life after that. No need for him to pay for the wedding. There's nothing wrong with being a stay at home mom, either. Or home schooling. Which is what I stated I wanted to do. Since he will put in the majority of the work and expense of a house/home, I can't expect him to pay for the wedding. I also don't want my bridesmaids, or maid of honor to pay for their dresses. I find that tacky. I was asked to be a bridesmaid once, I couldn't afford it. I was paying for school, and other expenses and I had to tell her no. I don't want to do that to any of my bridesmaids. Anyway.... What's up with asking your bridesmaids to pay for their dresses?!!!
goodyblue Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Whelp, you answered my question with the Duggar comment. I certainly didn't mean the religion comment to be negative, I just thought it may explain your thought process a little more. Btw, I am a stay at home mother of six. Do what makes you happy.
Hope Shimmers Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 The groom pays for the majority of life after that. No need for him to pay for the wedding. Really? That wasn't my experience at all. I paid for more or less everything, every step of the way. Your mileage may vary.
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