csny111 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 So, really... I find my peers obnoxious, annoying, over sexual, too left leaning & not trusting in God enough. I don't know if it's my age, and I just need to give them more time, but I prefer the company of my parents, to my peers. I've just recently met a guy I could actually like (as much) as my parents, and while that definitely got my excitement, it was short lived, because it turns out he is taken. *sigh* Well, at least with that one, I can understand WHY he is taken... I just need someone so much more mature, and wise & intelligent to talk to. I can't talk to any of my friends about religion... (at least not the ones I'm closest to). I can't talk to them about politics. They either don't care, or the ones who do, have no idea what they are talking about. I mean, I know there are some friends I have who are just as intelligent, and advanced for their age that I am... it's just that, I am so nervous to reach out to new people. I meet people, get to know them, and then get stuck relying on just them to talk to. And then they reject me, when they get to know the real me, or I dare say how I really feel about something. Like, by blocking me on fb or something. I don't get it. And the church.... people are trying to change the church. And the church is kind of going along with it. I see little glimpses of comments, in plays that they put on, that all sounds very modern. Instead of just doing the old fashioned, big production around Easter, we have some modern play with certain comments about modern day life. Obvs, all leading towards, "believe in Jesus". But, you can't be a follower of Jesus, unless you actually FOLLOW Jesus! Anyway. My parents have their moments, granted. But, I just so prefer their knowledge and wisdom on so many things, and I honestly feel my most comfortable when I am with them. I have even gone as far as to turn down friends invitations to do stuff on the weekends, stating, "Sorry, but I hang out with the rents that day". *shrugs* Whatr'ya gonna do? *sigh* Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 If you're happy and all that's working for you, then great. It just sounds like it's not really working for you because you don't sound happy. And the main thing I'm getting from your post is that you are afraid of new ideas and change. Life is change. Life is not a rock. It is a growing, breathing live organism. Religion is a combination of tradition and speculative beliefs. No one knows. There are roughly 4200 formal religions in the world, with each believing this is the truth. The truth is there is a different religion for each individual because no two people believe exactly the same thing or have the same devotion to it. If you treat it as an intractable fact, you cheat yourself out of personal spiritual growth. You are probably having trouble with friends because you are too rigid in your beliefs, which I assume you got from your parents, which is probably why they are the only ones you feel comfortable with. Unfortunately, it sounds like you have gotten a little social anxiety from it. I hope you'll try to open up some and realize you're probably no more "advanced" than anyone else but that you are just different than many people in some aspects. One of the signs of maturing is when you stop believing that all people should basically hold the same beliefs and think the same as you. We are all different with different experiences, traditions, and influences that led us to who we are. The best thing for you to do at this stage of your life is to get out into the world and see how many types people there are and put it all into perspective. To seek only those who believe exactly as you are is very self-limiting. Remember that a good foundation allows exploration and growth. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author csny111 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) Actually, no, I am more conservative and religious than my mom. Like, I said... "They have their moments, granted". More specifically, my mom. She has always leaned further left than my dad and I, and then my dad just sort of doesn't stick to his guns, and goes along with it. I'm not perfect, but I do believe in this... "If anything you do contradicts the Bible, guess which one of you is wrong?" - Rick Warren ...and yes, I am perfectly happy. I'm NOT happy with my peers. I want them to change, and grow up. And it kind of defeats your post, eh... "Get out there and meet new people"... Well, if I wasn't meeting new people, with different views, I wouldn't be having this problem, no? Yes, I am happy in my situation. If I could cut contact with all my friends, except girls from church and just have my parents and a boyfriend/courtship going, I would do that. So many of my friends are so immature. -_- Edited April 29, 2015 by csny111 Link to post Share on other sites
d0nnivain Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 "If anything you do contradicts the Bible, guess which one of you is wrong?" - Rick Warren Di you know the Bible condemns eating shell fish (shrimp & lobster) more than homosexuality? It also allows stoning and precludes people from eating pork and escargot. The Bible hates pigs so much you can't even play American football: Leviticus 11:7–8 reads: “And the pig, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. You shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you.” As a woman the Bible says you can't speak in Church. 1 Corinthians 14:34 reads: “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.” Leviticus is so tough that you can't even wear polyester or other man made fabrics. Leviticus 19:19 reads: “You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together.” Hope all your clothes are cotton or wool. Cheeseburgers are also out: no blood & fat together. Sorry. Nobody is allowed to work on Saturday or Sunday, the Sabbath. So every doctor, nurse, cop, military service member, firefighter & the wait staff where you go for brunch after church are all horrible sinners. The Bible is not a literal road map. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 CSNY, you can't make people change. You can only change yourself. Life will be a frustrating uphill battle for you if you hold onto that mindset that everyone must change or you don't want them around. Everyone is different. Everyone is meant to be different. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 OP, if you are happy with your life the way it is I don't understand why you started this thread. Link to post Share on other sites
Author csny111 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 To state that millennials are a bunch of irresponsible, pigs. Link to post Share on other sites
Author csny111 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Di you know the Bible condemns eating shell fish (shrimp & lobster) more than homosexuality? It also allows stoning and precludes people from eating pork and escargot. The Bible hates pigs so much you can't even play American football: Leviticus 11:7–8 reads: “And the pig, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. You shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you.” As a woman the Bible says you can't speak in Church. 1 Corinthians 14:34 reads: “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.” Leviticus is so tough that you can't even wear polyester or other man made fabrics. Leviticus 19:19 reads: “You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together.” Hope all your clothes are cotton or wool. Cheeseburgers are also out: no blood & fat together. Sorry. Nobody is allowed to work on Saturday or Sunday, the Sabbath. So every doctor, nurse, cop, military service member, firefighter & the wait staff where you go for brunch after church are all horrible sinners. The Bible is not a literal road map. You're stating some Old Testament times. If you read the entire Bible, instead of cherry picking from Old VS New, you will get to the part where God says that now all those foods is acceptable to eat. Except rare meat, I'm not sure if he ever made that okay... though, that's gross anyways, so who cares? Also... sexual immorality is held at a higher judgment, than wearing certain clothing or eating certain foods. Just like a thief is supposed to be punished with having to pay back his debt tenfold, a murderer is justified in also death. Each sin is equal in God's eyes, but each sin holds a different kind of judgment. I'll refrain from citing Romans, where they say what they do with fornicators (and homosexuals). Link to post Share on other sites
Author csny111 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 OP, if you are happy with your life the way it is I don't understand why you started this thread. I'm happy with my life, I just want to find a sexually pure guy to marry. I can't find that, and even when I do find a conservative, Christian guy, he isn't refraining from sexual sin. That's wrong. IMO Link to post Share on other sites
pteromom Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 To state that millennials are a bunch of irresponsible, pigs. You sound very angry. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Diezel Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 To state that millennials are a bunch of irresponsible, pigs. Gonna go ahead and guess you are a millenial as well. Link to post Share on other sites
pteromom Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 You can find what you are looking for - you just have to realize your search may be a little more difficult. But there is no need to be angry at those who aren't a match for you. They are free to live as they wish as well. Link to post Share on other sites
baloon Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 i understand what you say im not friends with my parents. but i find that people my age are too immature and ignorant for me, i feel like i relate to the older generation especially my grandparents generation i feel more wise and more emotionally mature than people of my generation. there is something about them that is repelling and i feel more like a babysitter when around people my age. i prefer to spend time with the older generations because they know what they are talking about, they know how to live life people my age are superficial, materialistic,entitled, fast paced, bratty, over sexual, judgemental and shallow. and they are always right, they are know it alls, they are right and you are wrong always according to them even tho they dont know half of what you know they are immature and i cannot relate and i often feel hurt around them, because they judge me, and are ignorant and snotty and have no emotional tolerance for others. they want everything their way and now and expect everyone to conform to their dumb way becase alot of them got spoiled and told they are special by their parents so they are adults thinking they are the most special thing and everyone else is wrong and less than them it is like a bunch of grown up babies walking around in their 30s who are still toddlers. they put themself first and they want everything on time and when they want. they wont admit to any of their faults, they think they are perfect and that everyone is a competition a bunch of idiots obsessed with social media and posting selfies and upping their friend count on facebook i feel like my maturity level in some ways is more like the 60-100 yr olds and in some ways im very much still a kid at heart. but my emotional maturity in alot of ways is that of the older people things were simple back then in their time i could not care less about a smart phone or my facebook friend count or parties or alcohol or stupid fads and trends 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author csny111 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) i understand what you say im not friends with my parents. but i find that people my age are too immature and ignorant for me, i feel like i relate to the older generation especially my grandparents generation i feel more wise and more emotionally mature than people of my generation. there is something about them that is repelling and i feel more like a babysitter when around people my age. i prefer to spend time with the older generations because they know what they are talking about, they know how to live life people my age are superficial, materialistic,entitled, fast paced, bratty, over sexual, judgemental and shallow. and they are always right, they are know it alls, they are right and you are wrong always according to them even tho they dont know half of what you know they are immature and i cannot relate and i often feel hurt around them, because they judge me, and are ignorant and snotty and have no emotional tolerance for others. they want everything their way and now and expect everyone to conform to their dumb way becase alot of them got spoiled and told they are special by their parents so they are adults thinking they are the most special thing and everyone else is wrong and less than them it is like a bunch of grown up babies walking around in their 30s who are still toddlers. they put themself first and they want everything on time and when they want. they wont admit to any of their faults, they think they are perfect and that everyone is a competition a bunch of idiots obsessed with social media and posting selfies and upping their friend count on facebook i feel like my maturity level in some ways is more like the 60-100 yr olds and in some ways im very much still a kid at heart. but my emotional maturity in alot of ways is that of the older people things were simple back then in their time i could not care less about a smart phone or my facebook friend count or parties or alcohol or stupid fads and trends While I do care about social media, I can agree with you on pretty much everything else! The majority of the reason I care about social media, is because I do spend (willingly) a lot of time at home, and that is how I socialize. I talk to my friends on facebook a lot, because I do not care to see them in person. Also, every single guy I like seems to wanna live in my computer. They meet me... figure out how conservative I am. Then live in my computer. i.e., only talking to me on facebook/insta/twitter etc. This doesn't discourage me, and I still like them (though, I'm not sure why), but it can get frustrating. Thank you so much balloon, for responding to my post! I'm glad I'm not the only one, and I KNOW I'm not the only one, we are just a dying breed in our generation. I want to debunk the myth that all millennials are irresponsible brats, and purposefully play the Devil's Advocate, because I am sick of waiting for my peers to grow up. I want an ulterior opinion out there, coming from the same generation I am in myself. And I will not shut up. There is so much wrong with this country, and it's mainly our fault. I will not stand for it, and I will not shut up. I want change. Kind of like how millennials want. Only, I want to go backwards in time. I am happy I am living in 2015, as opposed to 1950, but not EVERYTHING needed to change!! With time, comes progress, and pitfalls. Know what needs to change, and what does not. That is true knowledge. Edited April 29, 2015 by csny111 Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I thought a big tenet of your religion was to not be judgmental. You are extremely judgemental. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author csny111 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 I thought a big tenet of your religion was to not be judgmental. You are extremely judgemental. If Jesus acted like Jesus today, a bunch of so called Christians would be telling Jesus, he wasn't acting like Jesus. Jesus got crucified over politics, and throwing a fit in the town square (lack of a better word for it), for over charging in taxes and using his church as something it was not. That's the first line of defense everyone uses. The problem with that, is if we didn't have human appointed judges, murderers would go free, thieves would go free... .our society would be a living Heck. Which is the direction it is headed... You can't be stupid enough to not see the need for judgment? Even if it's human appointed. Don't answer that... Link to post Share on other sites
Diezel Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Only, I want to go backwards in time. All the way back to the old testament? The time when women weren't allowed to have opinions? You wouldn't be allowed to speak about any of this. Link to post Share on other sites
Author csny111 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 All the way back to the old testament? The time when women weren't allowed to have opinions? You wouldn't be allowed to speak about any of this. Don't put words in my mouth. You failed to copy the next thing I said. Link to post Share on other sites
Diezel Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Seeing as how you're other thread has been derailed, I'll just stay on topic and say... I am happy for you that your parents are your best friends. Link to post Share on other sites
Author csny111 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Don't put words in my mouth. You failed to copy the next thing I said. I am happy I am living in 2015, as opposed to 1950, but not EVERYTHING needed to change!! With time, comes progress, and pitfalls. Know what needs to change, and what does not. That is true knowledge. It's a Christian nation, that has allowed women to progress as far as they have! Society shows that Christians are the nicest to women, and that women succeed in Christians nations!! I just think feminism, and women who are not true Christians, have derailed that, and pretty soon we won't have freedoms anymore. They are undermining themselves, by undermining the Christian way. Link to post Share on other sites
Author csny111 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Seeing as how you're other thread has been derailed, I'll just stay on topic and say... I am happy for you that your parents are your best friends. Thank you. I am, too. Link to post Share on other sites
baloon Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 While I do care about social media, I can agree with you on pretty much everything else! The majority of the reason I care about social media, is because I do spend (willingly) a lot of time at home, and that is how I socialize. I talk to my friends on facebook a lot, because I do not care to see them in person. Also, every single guy I like seems to wanna live in my computer. They meet me... figure out how conservative I am. Then live in my computer. i.e., only talking to me on facebook/insta/twitter etc. This doesn't discourage me, and I still like them (though, I'm not sure why), but it can get frustrating. Thank you so much balloon, for responding to my post! I'm glad I'm not the only one, and I KNOW I'm not the only one, we are just a dying breed in our generation. I want to debunk the myth that all millennials are irresponsible brats, and purposefully play the Devil's Advocate, because I am sick of waiting for my peers to grow up. I want an ulterior opinion out there, coming from the same generation I am in myself. And I will not shut up. There is so much wrong with this country, and it's mainly our fault. I will not stand for it, and I will not shut up. I want change. Kind of like how millennials want. Only, I want to go backwards in time. I am happy I am living in 2015, as opposed to 1950, but not EVERYTHING needed to change!! With time, comes progress, and pitfalls. Know what needs to change, and what does not. That is true knowledge. it can be difficult waiting for things to change. especially as you watch people make things worse. you wonder if they ever will grow up. i dont think they will. they will be 80 acting like the same 2 yr old brat it could take a few life times for people to learn basic things and lessons. if any of you believe in reincarnation. but some people will never understand their entire life and they will make many big mistakes any wise person admits that they are never done learning no matter how wise they are , and they are never perfect and can admit to some faults and religion has gone down the drain. people act however and then go to church like it will make a difference. if you are a horrible person then stopping by a church on sunday does not mean you are ok. they have to own up to their garbage and not hide behind religion if they are not really religous or good people. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SpiralOut Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 ..and yes, I am perfectly happy. I'm NOT happy with my peers. I want them to change, and grow up. Maybe they will change in time but for now, they are who they are. Have you tried approaching older people for friendships? Yes, I am happy in my situation. If I could cut contact with all my friends, except girls from church and just have my parents and a boyfriend/courtship going, I would do that. So many of my friends are so immature. -_- Why don't you do that? What is stopping you from cutting contact from your friends? Link to post Share on other sites
Author csny111 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 Maybe they will change in time but for now, they are who they are. Have you tried approaching older people for friendships? Why don't you do that? What is stopping you from cutting contact from your friends? They kind of cut contact with me, and I have been trying to get to church more. Like I said, as soon as I refuse to watch a lusty video of some kind, or something like that, I get blocked on facebook. I spend the majority of my time at home, so I talk to them online because I don't care to see them in person. Plus, a lot of them are out of state, so that defeats that anyway. I do have some older folks as friends, one of whom is one my friend's mom. Her own daughter (who I am friends with) rejects her mom's advice on relationships, and takes the advice of ex's friends etc etc etc.... I've even heard her utter, "That's sexist" to her mom before, when her mom was just looking out for her safety. I just feel so much more advanced, and further along than the majority of my peers. Like I said, I've even turned down friends invitations, to hang out with my folks. I really wanna bring a guy into the picture, but he is going to have to be mature and understand that I am looking for a *courtship*. Not a dating experience. I could get into that, but that will derail the convo again. So, for now, I'll just keep on keeping on. Let my friends annoy the crap out of me online, and hang out with my parents/church on the weekends. *sigh* Oh well. Link to post Share on other sites
Author csny111 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 Oh well. I don't know why, but I am much more comfortable talking to the ones who are immature. Maybe it's because the ones that I feel have it together, and are mature, I care more about what they think? So, I'm less likely to open up to them... whereas, the friends who annoy me, I can kind of be like a spiritual "leader" of some kind, and be an influence on them. As opposed to the other way around. People I have a ton of respect for, can kind of be an influence on ME, and that is scarier to accept and be in contact with. I think it just all boils down to the fact, that the friends I have less respect for, I also care less about what they think of me. So, it's easy to open up to them, because if they judge me, it's no sweat off my back. But, that in turn, stops me from having meaningful relationships with people I actually DO respect. I think I'm also afraid of finding faults in the people I respect, but I would never try and counsel them. My church friends, and my Christian friends, I just naturally have so much more respect for. Link to post Share on other sites
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