The Duggar Family is so Inspirational!!

[writergal]

More Duggar interview highlights:

 

The 7 most horrifying exchanges from the Duggars? interview with Megyn Kelly - Salon.com

 

Megyn Kelly’s interview with Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar last night about their son Josh’s sexual abuse of several sisters and a babysitter was a shocking and horrifying spectacle.

 

Kelly put the right questions before the Duggars, who seemed, again and again, despite all their media training, not to grasp the real issues — and not to feel the same empathy for their daughters as they did for Josh.

 

Here are the seven key exchanges from the interview.

 

1. “He said he was just curious about girls”

 

MEGYN KELLY: This is a young boy who has come to you with shocking information. What did you say? I mean, how did you respond to him? What was that like, that exchange?

 

MICHELLE. DUGGAR: There was so much grief in our hearts. I think as parents we felt, we’re failures. You know, here we tried to raise our kids to do what’s right, to know what’s right. And yet one of our children made some really bad choices, and I think as a parent, we were just — we were devastated.

 

KELLY: Did he explain why? I mean, was that a question that you asked?

 

JIM BOB DUGGAR: He said he was just curious about girls, and he had gone in and just basically touched them over their clothes while they were sleeping. They didn’t even know he had done it. And so we went, and the first thing was to protect the girls.

 

2. “That’s when we pulled him out of the house”

 

KELLY: Did legal ever pop into your mind? Like we may have legal obligations?

 

J. B. DUGGAR: You know, what? As parents you’re not mandatory reporters. The law allows for parents to do what they think is best for their child. And so we got him out of the home, and we sent him down to this place, and that was really probably the best decision we made through this whole process, because it was at that place — this was the first time Josh has been out of the home.

 

KELLY: He was 15 at this point.

 

J. B. DUGGAR: He had just turned 15. And it was that the point that he came into himself, and God really worked in his life. As a matter of fact, he broke. And he went and asked God to forgive him. He went back and asked those who he had offended to forgive him. But we felt like the last jurisdiction of who did to do make things right with was the law.

 

KELLY: And we’ll going to get to that in one second. The subsequent incident after the first one involved daughters who were awake, at least a couple of them?

 

J. B. DUGGAR: There was a couple, yes. And they didn’t really understand, though, what happened.

 

KELLY: Yes. What –

 

M. DUGGAR: It was more his heart, his intent. He knew that it was wrong. But they weren’t even aware. They were like, you know, it wasn’t – - to them they didn’t probably even understand that it was an improper touch.

 

KELLY: I know that the ultimate one before you really got help involved a very young daughter, and I’ll avoid the age because I don’t want to identify anyone specifically, but a single digit. I mean, what was that like for you to hear? You know, one, you must have thought for some time this is a pubescent boy, I don’t know what he’s going through, but he’s testing. But when it moves to a young daughter –

 

J. B. DUGGAR: Right. At that point, that’s when we pulled him out of the house and we said, he can’t be here. And so, we pulled him out and then, he went through working with that man –

 

KELLY: Yes. He goes through counseling.

 

J. B. DUGGAR: Yes.

 

KELLY: And then when he was done with the counseling, this is not like a licensed therapist, it’s somebody, a Christian-based –

 

J. B. DUGGAR: Christian based. But I’ll tell you why.

 

3. “The ray of hope was that Josh had come and told us and his heart was still soft.”

 

KELLY: Did it feel at all like a “Sophie’s Choice,” you know, I have to protect my daughters at the expense of my son or vice versa?

 

J. B. DUGGAR: You know, I think it was a situation where we felt like our son’s heart had gone astray. I think Jesus shared a story about he had a hundred sheep and one went astray, and there he was. He took care of the 99 but he also went after the one that went astray. And so, as parents we still loved Josh and we love our other ones, but we’re going to protect those that are in our hands, but also we’re going to make sure Josh doesn’t make any wrong choices.

 

M. DUGGAR: It doesn’t mean that you’re not a good shepherd. Jesus is a good shepherd but he went after that one that went astray. And so I think as parents we were trying to do the best that we knew how to help this one and protect these. And I feel like through that, as we came to that point where, you know, Josh shared, you know, improperly touching a young one, we were devastated and we said, we’ve got to send him out of the home. He has got to go and seek counsel and get help.

 

KELLY: Did you feel –

 

M. DUGGAR: And I mean, it was like that evening when they left and took him that same day, he just was weeping and shared immediately what he had done. And so, we were weeping and the little one was like, what’s wrong? Why are daddy and Josh leaving? And as we’re all weeping, the next day and for days and days I was saying, you know, Josh has done some very bad things, and he’s very sorry.

 

J. B. DUGGAR: Yes. But I was thankful. The ray of hope was that Josh had come and told us and his heart was still soft. Because we wouldn’t have known about any of these things if he hadn’t come and told us.

 

Despite the fact that the TLC's Duggar show sponsors have been pulling out, TLC still hasn't cancelled the show. And did anyone else think that Megyn Kelly was light on the Duggars because she was trying to help them clear their name from this scandal? Or is it just me?

 

The train wreck interview continues tomorrow night on Fox News.

[OpenBook]

"J. B. DUGGAR: Yes. But I was thankful. The ray of hope was that Josh had come and told us and his heart was still soft. Because we wouldn’t have known about any of these things if he hadn’t come and told us."

 

Really??? I thought he or Michelle claimed earlier that the girls went to their parents and that's how they found out about it. I also read (in the reader comments of an online article discussing the police report) that at one point Jim Bob caught him climbing out his sister's bedroom window.

 

Welp - so much for safeguards... and for my assumption that the girls trust their parents enough to report it.

 

Other things I read in reader comments (again, those who claimed to have read the police report) - that it wasn't just fondling that Josh did, there was actual digital (finger) penetration. If that's the case, Josh is a rapist too. And their parents lied about the crimes committed in the interview last night.

 

"J. B. DUGGAR: This was not rape or anything like that."

 

Are they really that dumb to think the public will accept anything they say without verifying it?

[whichwayisup]

Been watching Nancy Grace and some CNN tonight.

 

This family is so messed up, the parents are beyond NOT normal, their way of thinking and processing is f'ed up too.

 

I feel for those victims who now have to live with this for the rest of their lives.

 

I hope they get the professional help they need.

 

TLC SUCKS, fact they ran re run marathon episodes while all this hit the news is absolutely disgusting. They've taken the show off the air but not canceled it!!

 

$$ drives these people (Duggars and TLC) to lower themselves and sell their souls to the devil!

[autumnnight]

Been watching Nancy Grace and some CNN tonight.

 

This family is so messed up, the parents are beyond NOT normal, their way of thinking and processing is f'ed up too.

 

I feel for those victims who now have to live with this for the rest of their lives.

 

I hope they get the professional help they need.

 

TLC SUCKS, fact they ran re run marathon episodes while all this hit the news is absolutely disgusting. They've taken the show off the air but not canceled it!!

 

$$ drives these people (Duggars and TLC) to lower themselves and sell their souls to the devil!

 

This is what happens when legalism is twisted and not allowed to be questioned.

[pie2]

And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” John 8:7

 

Wow that is so disturbing. Just proves my point about how rampant sexual abuse is across pretty much all religious sects. ....Since it is sure to be a train wreck I plan to watch it for the entertainment factor.

 

Sad that this is entertainment for you, writergal.

 

And no, one case of abuse does not prove how rampant sexual abuse is in all religious sects.

 

What I really couldn't believe is when their daughter Jessa, one of the victims, defended her brother Josh's actions. She is in serious denial. Very sad.

 

So much judgement (please see the quote above). Above all, I don't think anyone has a right to judge the victims here. Jessa is an adult, and is allowed to react however she wants. Plus, I didn't see defense of her brother's actions; I saw her defend her brother against attacks he is receiving today...there is a difference. Why do you insist that she react differently? How should she react? With perpetual anger, disgust and hatred towards her brother, for eternity?

 

Nevermind, I already know how many people would hold on to their anger and hatred for eons. And to each his own. I guess they just don't know the freeing love found in Jesus, which allows the heart to forgive in even the most dire circumstances.

[Charles in Charge]

In all the media frenzy over the Duggars, only in occasional bits and pieces do I see the victims even being mentioned. All the focus is on Josh, the perpe-traitor. Well, here is one article that gives voice to a victim. I wish all media outlets would pick this up and replay it over and over again, until we REALLY GET IT what we as a society are doing when we don't adequately address sexual abuse. We are creating a very real House of Horrors. This is what hell must be like.

 

WARNING: Reading this article was devastating - it made me weep, gag, and tense up with visceral white-hot anger. The article itself starts with a warning that it may "trigger" victims who read it. I am not a victim myself, but I identify with the devastation that results when no one believes you or comes to help you or STOPS THE NIGHTMARE.

 

Sexually assaulted in a Christian home: A victim speaks - Rhymes with Religion

 

The victims are family members.

[amaysngrace]

It's weird that the parents spoke to another family about it because it was happening in the other family's home too...the son there was fondling his sisters also.

 

It makes me think somebody messed with these boys at a very young age to make them both behave the same way.

 

It sounds like a cult.

[autumnnight]

It's weird that the parents spoke to another family about it because it was happening in the other family's home too...the son there was fondling his sisters also.

 

It makes me think somebody messed with these boys at a very young age to make them both behave the same way.

 

It sounds like a cult.

 

Here's a thought that fundamentalists will wig over:

 

Sexual feelings are normal, and if you vilify every normal expression of them, they WILL come out abnormally. Maybe Josh should have been allowed to have a girlfriend he kissed goodnight instead of denying and repressing normal biology to the point that he did this.

 

NOT taking any blame away from him for his choices....but like it or not, we are sexual creatures, and the God they think hates sex created us that way.

[writergal]

Here's a thought that fundamentalists will wig over:

 

Sexual feelings are normal, and if you vilify every normal expression of them, they WILL come out abnormally. Maybe Josh should have been allowed to have a girlfriend he kissed goodnight instead of denying and repressing normal biology to the point that he did this.

NOT taking any blame away from him for his choices....but like it or not, we are sexual creatures, and the God they think hates sex created us that way.

 

 

Fundamentalists? Fundamentalists believe that statements in the Bible are literally true.

 

Who is your post directed at? I'm an Atheist, not a Fundamentalist. Are you a Fundamentalist?

 

I'm not sure what your point is. Is your point that unless humans are getting a constant supply of sex, then they will molest others?

 

Are you saying that only Fundamentalist Christians believe that Josh Duggar is innocent, because he didn't have a girlfriend?

 

Let's apply your logic to all the sexual molesters of the world. Maybe if they'd had a girlfriend or boyfriend, then they wouldn't have sexually molested their victims? Do you really believe that? Say, for example, Ariel Castro. So, because he got divorced from his wife, and wasn't in a new relationship with a woman to satisfy his sexual needs - that's why he kidnapped, starved, raped, and impregnated his 3 female victims?

 

And are you defending Josh Duggar's actions? Do you really believe that if Josh Duggar had been in a relationship at 15 years old, then he wouldn't have molested his sisters and babysitters?

 

I think that Josh Duggar sexually molested his sisters and his babysitter because he is mentally ill. There are psychological reasons why juveniles like Josh Duggar was at the time, molest other children.

 

From Childpreventionmolestation.org

 

Focus on the cause. To do that, we must know the cause. What could possibly cause someone to suddenly molest a child? In general, sexual abusers act because they fit into one of four broad categories. They act because:

 

• They are children or teenagers who are sexually curious or experimenting.
  
• They have a medical or mental problem that needs treatment.
  
• They are opportunists, who lack feelings for others and who have an antisocial personality disorder.
  
• They have an ongoing sex drive directed toward children.
  

 

Pedophiles start as young as 16 years old.

 

Is Josh Duggar a pedophile or child molester?

 

According to crisisconnectioninc.org

 

Pedophile or Child Molester?

 

All Pedophiles are child molesters, but very few child molesters are Pedophiles. Pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation that involves exclusive attraction to prepubescent children (male or female, generally not both).

 

Child sexual molesters may be sexually attracted to males and/or females and are generally not particular about their age; convenience and easy access are their prime concerns.

 

Active Pedophiles are generally single men between the ages of 16 and 35.

 

Child molesters are generally married men, of any age, who are primarily drawn to their own children and step-children.

 

Pedophiles primarily engage in fondling and oral-genital sex; they "court" and "groom" their victims as if engaged in a consensual relationship with an adult. Child molesters will fondle and engage in oral-genital sex, but also frequently sexually penetrate their victims, force children to watch while the molester abuses their mother or others and partake of pornography with children in the immediate vicinity.

 

Pedophiles are master rationalizers, while child molesters are master liars and manipulators.

 

Pedophiles may believe that they have not harmed the child (ego-syntonic) and may convince themselves that they truly "love" the child with no acceptance that they have used their power and influence to overpower their victim. Child molesters do not engage in a "relationship" with their victim, their interest is strictly overpowering the victim by means of sexual degradation and control.

 

Pedophilic behavior/fantasy rarely varies. If the Pedophile prefers 8 year-old boys, he will be "grooming" 6 or 7 year-olds to replace his current 8-year-old victims when they "age-out" of his preference parameters. Child molesters may continue victimizing the same child or children for years; convenience and accessibility are paramount to the molester.

 

Both Pedophiles and child molesters are primarily heterosexual males. Active pedophilic behavior generally starts slowing down around age 35; the child molester generally continues his victimization until he is no longer physically able due to age, illness, injury, or incarceration.

 

Female Pedophiles are extremely rare; this disorder is considered an affliction of heterosexual males. Child molesters are primarily males, although there are a small but significant percentage of female offenders.

 

 

I disagree that all child molesters are married. Josh Duggar was 15 years old, not married or in a relationship when he molested his sisters and babysitters.

Edited June 5, 2015 by writergal

[Fugu]

It's disturbing to me that the law didn't force the Duggars to report the offenses, that they were allowed to just handle it themselves. I think they're trying to save face and spin this as "inappropriate touching," but I don't think the victims are really buying into that narrative. They're clearly traumatized, and will be for a long, long time.

 

I don't know if taking a teenager and throwing him in the clink for life is the answer, and the threat of that is probably why the family kept it to themselves. But clearly there should have be a mechanism for dealing with this sort of thing. Mandatory psychiatric confinement maybe?

Edited June 5, 2015 by Fugu

[autumnnight]

Fundamentalists? Fundamentalists believe that statements in the Bible are literally true.

 

$*@%&($(&^

 

I officially give up.

 

I was saying that extreme and legalistic religious grpups often act as if sexual feelings of any kind should not exist. I made it clear that none of that excuses Josh's behavior. It was and is very wrong.

 

My other point was that you can try to defy biology with stringent rules, but people ARE going to have sexual feelings, so instead of trying to crush them, make HEALTHY outlets okay.

 

Being intentionally misunderstood on a regular basis really gets on my nerves.

 

I'm done.

[writergal]

It's disturbing to me that the law didn't force the Duggars to report the offenses, that they were allowed to just handle it themselves. I think they're trying to save face and spin this as "inappropriate touching," but I don't think the victims are really buying into that narrative. They're clearly traumatized, and will be for a long, long time.

 

I don't know if taking a teenager and throwing him in the clink for life is the answer, and the threat of that is probably why the family kept it to themselves. But clearly there should have be a mechanism for dealing with this sort of thing. Mandatory psychiatric confinement maybe?

 

Oh the Duggars are definiattely doing spin-control on their contribution to their son Josh Duggar's molestation acts. They are a conservative, Christian family who believes that homosexuality is evil, that transgender women are sexual predators, that abortion is wrong, the list goes on. Michelle even did Robo calls to her community warning them of the evils of transgendered women.

 

Do the Duggars practice what they preach to the public? They have 19 children (they preach chastity). Did they protect their daughters Jessa and Jill after Josh Duggar molested them both the 1st time, from being molested 4 more times? Nope. Did they report their son to the authorities right away once they found out about Josh's molesting his sisters and babysitter? Nope.

 

They lied and hid it from their church community, from the Arkansas police Dept., probably because the knew they'd be held accountable for Josh's behavior since he was a juvenile at the time.

 

Since this took place in Arkansas, Josh Duggar, if he had been convicted of sibling to sibling sex molestation as a 15 year old, he could have potentially been put on the Arkansas Sex Offender Registry and had his name added to the website that tracks sex offenders in Arkansas - the ACIC.

 

What the Duggars should have done with their son Josh was report him to the police, who would have then conducted SOSRSA - Sex Offender Screening and Risk Assessment. Then send Josh to a psychiatric residential facility that provides help for juveniles ages 3-17 and has a group home living arrangement on-site for residents who successfully complete the sex offender program that the facility provides.

 

The Duggars sent Josh to do construction work with a family friend then let him back in their house where he repeatedly molested his sisters and the babysitter. Their so-called "safe guards" were not realistic for the size of their family, and the Duggars didn't discuss the consequences if their children violated those safeguards.

 

Now, Josh is protected by law because his parents didn't report him and the statute of limitations ran out. And, he has all these Arkansas conservative politicians showing their public support for him, so you have to wonder if those same politicians would just throw money at Josh's "publicity" problem to make it disappear from the public eye.

 

In their interview with Megyn Kelly, the Duggars mentioned that they will work to have juvenile crime records sealed so that they can never be accessed. Well gee, that was an obvious reference to the fact that In Touch magazine got Josh's police record and published it. And in their interview with Kelly, the Duggars never platformed for sexual abuse victims, so they clearly put Josh's reputation above the mental health of their daughters who were victims of their brother Josh. My guess is their daughters never received professional counseling, because if they had, the professional counselor is a mandated reporter and would have reported the daughters' sexual abuse to authorities and thwarted the Duggars plan for a profitable reality tv show, which they did, after they covered up their son's abuse.

 

Those parents are hypocrites. Take "God" out of the equation and see the Duggars for who they really are: sadistic opportunists who sacrificed the well-being of their own children's welfare for a reality tv show.

 

According to the adc.arkansas.gov:

 

© Knowingly engages or attempts to engage in a sexual act with another

person who has not attained the age of twelve (12) years; or knowingly

engages or attempts to engage in a sexual act under the circumstances in A

and B above with another person who has attained the age of twelve (12)

years but has not attained the age of sixteen (16) years and is at least four (4) years younger than the alleged offender.

 

Determination as to whether an offense qualifies as an “Aggravated Sex

Offense” may depend on the circumstances surrounding the offense. The

court must indicate on the judgment and commitment or judgment and

disposition form whether or not the offense is an aggravated sex offense.

 

Should there be any confusion regarding whether a sex offense qualifies as

an “Aggravated Sex Offense” the Court will be contacted during the course

of the assessment.

 

Assessment Process

Community Notification Assessments may include, but are not limited to,

the following:

 

• A review of the sex offender’s criminal history, with particular

attention given to any offense that was sexual or violent in nature.

• An interview of the sex offender completed by SOSRA staff.

• A polygraph examination or a Computerized Voice Stress Analysis

in cases in which SOSRA staff believe truth verification will help

provide a more accurate assessment.

• A thorough review of any mental health or treatment records

available to SOSRA staff at the time of assessment which may be

relevant to the offender’s risk to the community.

• Psychological testing when deemed necessary by SOSRA

psychologists.

• Child maltreatment reports, incident reports, disciplinary charges

from correctional facilities, and criminal offenses for which the

offender was charged but not convicted.

• Other information that is relevant to the offender’s offense history

and/or pattern of behavior.

• Completion of appropriate actuarial instruments designed to assess

individuals convicted of sexual offenses.

[autumnnight]

It's disturbing to me that the law didn't force the Duggars to report the offenses, that they were allowed to just handle it themselves. I think they're trying to save face and spin this as "inappropriate touching," but I don't think the victims are really buying into that narrative. They're clearly traumatized, and will be for a long, long time.

 

I don't know if taking a teenager and throwing him in the clink for life is the answer, and the threat of that is probably why the family kept it to themselves. But clearly there should have be a mechanism for dealing with this sort of thing. Mandatory psychiatric confinement maybe?

 

REAL, authentic counseling at least.

[writergal]

$*@%&($(&^

 

I officially give up.

 

I was saying that extreme and legalistic religious grpups often act as if sexual feelings of any kind should not exist. I made it clear that none of that excuses Josh's behavior. It was and is very wrong.

 

My other point was that you can try to defy biology with stringent rules, but people ARE going to have sexual feelings, so instead of trying to crush them, make HEALTHY outlets okay.

 

Being intentionally misunderstood on a regular basis really gets on my nerves.

 

I'm done.

 

I'm not intentionally misunderstanding you. I asked you for clarity because you were not clear (for me). I clearly stated that your post made it sound like you were defending Josh Duggar, so I asked you for clarity. How you interpret my questions is out of my control.

 

No one here has argued that sexual feelings aren't ok. So I'm not sure why you brought that up? If the Fundamentalists believe that, then you need to clearly write that is what Fundamentalists believe.

 

And what healthy outlets are you referring to for people, with regards to having sex? That doesn't make any sense. There is birth control pills, and condoms for safe sex. Clarifying question: Are birth control methods the healthy outlets you were referring to? If you aren't specific, it's hard to understand what you are referring to.

 

Birth control for safe sex doesn't prevent people from becoming sexual molesters if that's what you're implying? Kids are taught safe sex at school and if they're lucky, by their parents. But that doesn't necessarily mean those kids will practice safe sex, or not molest another kid.

[autumnnight]

I'm not intentionally misunderstanding you. I asked you for clarity because you were not clear (for me). I clearly stated that your post made it sound like you were defending Josh Duggar, so I asked you for clarity. How you interpret my questions is out of my control.

 

And in my initial post I stated that it does not excuse or justify. As have repeated posts of mine throughout the thread

 

No one here has argued that sexual feelings aren't ok. So I'm not sure why you brought that up? If the Fundamentalists believe that, then you need to clearly write that is what Fundamentalists believe.

 

You have made several statements about how religion stifles and represses. This should not be news to you. There are many strict Christian groups (Gothardites included) that basically think any type of physical contact outside marriage is wrong, and they harp on it so much that it is all just considered dirty. I believe that is unhealthy.

And what healthy outlets are you referring to for people, with regards to having sex? That doesn't make any sense. There is birth control pills, and condoms for safe sex. Clarifying question: Are birth control methods the healthy outlets you were referring to? If you aren't specific, it's hard to understand what you are referring to.

 

My point is that these groups may successfully damage and repress SOME of their followers, but for many others, they are just going to end up twisted and find secretive ways to express these feelings. That does not excuse any behavior. But it is fact.

 

Birth control for safe sex doesn't prevent people from becoming sexual molesters if that's what you're implying? Kids are taught safe sex at school and if they're lucky, by their parents. But that doesn't necessarily mean those kids will practice safe sex, or not molest another kid.

 

Where on God's green earth did I even begin to imply that having safe sex keeps people from being pedophiles. I have a hard time believeing anyone else could have possibly made that stretch.

 

All I really did was make an observation about groups like Gothard's that have extremely legalistic views that often backfire. There was no complex nefarious Josh-excusing agenda behind it. It was an observation. No hidden hoopla. Just something that I know Gothardites don't like hearing....not to mention the Josh Harris "kissed dating goodbye" people and so on.

 

In case my dozen or so other posts are not clear: What Josh did was wrong. There was no excuse for it. It was handled abominably.

 

I feel like I'm in some variation of the movie 50 First Dates

[Quiet Storm]

It happens to religious people, but it happens to people who aren't religious, too. To as many as 1 in 3 American girls and 1 in 5 boys. So it's definitely not something happening is extreme religious homes only. It's an epidemic.

 

It's been America's secret for many generations. There is a ripple effect. Many addicts and alcoholics were sexually abused, some personality disorders are triggered by sexual abuse, bad coping skills such as detachment are attributed to sexual abuse... many issues later in life are caused by this trauma. It affects relationships, parenting, confidence, success, etc.

 

In my family, my grandfather abused my sister when she was 5 and also some of my cousins. It triggered her Borderline PD, it filled my parents with guilt and broke my dad (it was his dad that did it). My dad would've killed him no doubt, but by the time he found out my grandfather had already died a slow, painful death from asbestos. My dad's side of the family was Cherokee and wasn't religious. It's also happened on my mom's side of the family, who were Irish decent and were religious.

 

Here are the ripple effects of my sister (just one of his victims). It affected my relationship with her because I felt guilty he didn't pick me instead. Her BPD makes it impossible to have a real sisterly relationship with her because she lies and manipulates. I look back and remember the day she changed from a singing, happy five year old to becoming anxious and clinging to my arm, but she didn't tell me why .

 

She hurt her ex husband badly due to her BPD, lost custody of her son. He now lives with his father 3000 miles away and is having abandonment issues. Who knows how he'll deal with those issues and what kind of parent he'll be? All these people affected. It trickles down like a slow leak, pervasive and hidden.

 

People of all faiths or no faith cover it up, because many of them have experienced it and think its not that big of a deal. Even the law treats it like no big deal- a three year statute of limitations? There's no statute of limitations on burglary, a crime against property...but a three year limit for something that can change a child's life, and their children's life, forever?

 

I just hope the media coverage and reaction to this will show people- look this is a big deal and it's not OK to cover this up.

Edited June 6, 2015 by Quiet Storm

[autumnnight]

So now I keep hearing all these comparisons of the non-event of Lena Dunham's book as compared with the frenzy over the Duggars. But I can't really find anything about it. Does anyone know about that?