empresario Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Heh, as a girl who's not always the most socially aware, I definitely get it. I'm a bit odd sometimes, definitely get called weird or awkward from time to time. But the people who call me weird do so endearingly. They like it. It's okay to be a little weird and a little odd. Cookie cutter isn't all that fun So while it's good to pay attention to social cues and do your best to be aware, it's good to be a little weird sometimes too Haha, well, cute women are allowed to be strange. Then it's "quirky". Men that are weird are quickly disregarded as "creepy". Link to post Share on other sites
lollipopspot Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Haha, well, cute women are allowed to be strange. Then it's "quirky". Men that are weird are quickly disregarded as "creepy". But according to this thread, attractive men are also allowed to be strange. Link to post Share on other sites
frogs88 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I actually have little time for TV. I am too busy doing things. Not all of them social, but some are... I dont think posting on a relationship/dating website counts as 'too busy'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rejected Rosebud Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Go to any social setting. You'll see it at play. Still dumbfounded that people wish to deny this. If alot of women like one guy that still doesn't mean that he is hoarding them! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
I_Squared_R Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I think the true idea of a top tier man is lost in qualitative wording like "extraordinary". When I had previously said "extraordinary" I had meant that it's striving to the best of our abilities. We are all influenced by society to like a certain type of person. Recall the fellow who said women are largely attracted to black men in Australia. The definition of beauty differs largely by geographical location. Striving to become that definition is important in increasing the odds in dating and thus becoming "extraordinary". I disagree with the wording of the sentence "Top tier men are hoarding all the women". It should be reworded to "Top tier individuals are attracting all of the opposite sex" because those individuals understand how the game works and how to increase the odds. It is a numbers game after all - the amount of effort put into dating is directly proportional to your success in dating. However the variables are dependent on whether you are observing the qualities of top tier individuals and attempting to emulate them to the best of your ability. Love isn't some mysterious sixth sense that can't be explained. Brains Do It: Lust, Attraction, and Attachment 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Toodaloo Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I dont think posting on a relationship/dating website counts as 'too busy'. I do this when stuck in an office... Not when I have free time to do what the hell I want where the hell I want to or choose what I do... And besides - this is rather entertaining... and with out people like me to give you a quick kick and point out the obvious you would all still be sitting behind your key boards instead of getting out and about. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
thefooloftheyear Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 It's true...We're hoarding them all... "To the victor go the spoils"..... TFY 3 Link to post Share on other sites
LookAtThisPOst Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 But according to this thread, attractive men are also allowed to be strange. right I know I'm attractive men to get away with feeling a woman up and it not be creepy but if an attractive man that is it then it sexual harassment. Link to post Share on other sites
empresario Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 But according to this thread, attractive men are also allowed to be strange. As an extremely ADHD male and attractive guy, I can assure you it is not OK to be weird. At least not at first. Once a woman meets you and decides she likes you, then you can spaz out on occasion and it's OK. On a first date, women frown upon things like random sprinting back and forth and constant OCD quipping after every comment. Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJulySeptember Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) The problem is when the only reason anyone improves themselves, is solely for the sake of attracting a mate. The self improvement, the steps to push oneself socially, be physically active, to study others and have interests - that should be done because it simply improves ones life! I'm always striving to improve myself. Not for men, but because it makes me happy and proud of myself to always be pushing my limits and experiencing new things. I think you should do it for yourself though. I think so much of us live life to sacrifice to get to point A to achieve happiness, and it goes something like this: OK, I'm going to major in something high paying, get a high paying job, workout and get buff, and improve all of my communication skills even though I have no interest in doing any of it, and when I get that hot, smoking girl on my level (point A), then I'll be happy. You're chasing goals that you think will bring you happiness while sacrificing the things that ACTUALLY do make you happy. I can say, that looking back, the times in my life when I have had women has not been markedly happier than the times I haven't. I'll disclaim that to get the very girlfriend out of the way is sort of important, because that releases the social taboo, feeling of embarrassment, and having other guys make fun of you, etc. Edited May 20, 2015 by JuneJulySeptember Link to post Share on other sites
endlessabyss Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) so, billy and timmy are owed something just because they're mediocre? Horrible reasoning when you brake this down, HORRIBLE. At the end of the day life isn't fair, and people don't get what they want. Life, for most people, is a form of punishment and suffering. Billy and Timmy got ****ed because they weren't born with the genetics for sports, maybe they are autistic, innately socially retarded, have some flaw that they can't shake. Maybe they were poor, and had a hard time fitting in because they couldn't bond with the others because of their socio-economic status. Was that their fault? Maybe the things they are passionate about people see weird. Maybe they weren't accepted in school, bullied, and were socially trained to isolate, because they were told they were unwanted. This has HUGE implications for ones life. You just don't delete the past, and forget all the bad stuff, and go about acting confidently after being messed with for years on end. The people who succeed most likely relied on something that was completely out of hand. Grant it, a small minority finds a way to make it off sheer will power, but even for them luck sprouts up somewhere down the line. People that act confidently are the ones who society has praised and accepted. Why are they accepted? Looks, athletic capabilities, maybe a natural propensity to be good with people i.e charisma/status, wealth, whatever. The following usually propels people to success, and a large amount of it was not earned from working for it. People have minimal control of their lives. Life dictates to us, not vice versa. You think Billy and Timmy chose to be bullied? You think they chose their flaws? Do you think they to be friendless? We had no control of entering the world, and for the most part, we don't have any control of when we leave. The whole quote is wrong. Edited May 20, 2015 by endlessabyss 2 Link to post Share on other sites
No Limit Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Woah guys... get a suit, shop a few shirts at Marco Polo's and you'll get interest from women alright. Rent a hotel room and a Porsche for a day while you're at it and your "50 Shades of Grey" style is going to be a sex-guarantee, even if only for a single weekend! Or why else do you think that story went from simple online fanfiction to its own movie? Link to post Share on other sites
lino Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 For those who perhaps have a section of their brain missing: I don't think anyone is suggesting any man is literally hoarding women. Now we can also cease with the cheesey and unfunny jokes as well. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
OldRover Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Wow, what an interesting thread.... For sure there are some horders... and for sure the are some guys that never get a nice woman, as there are women that never get a nice guy. I've seen it many, many times. And the really cool Chads don't always horde the women. I'm probably in that class (not bragging) but I'm good looking, in shape, very successful professional, well educated, etc..... but I've always been a one women guy.... never had two at once. Never a one nite stand. However, never had a problem getting a date, partner or a marriage partner. From high school on..... But I've had friends that have had women just begging for them and others that could get a date if it was staring them in the face. Same with the ladies. Some have it, some don't. I have one friend, that is not really that good looking, has nothing, and has had more women that most of us could imagine. He has finally settled down with a wealthy good looking lady. So.... it all depends. Now, the older you get the more the man has the advantage..... and once you get to the seniors range, the man has a huge advantage. Link to post Share on other sites
loveweary11 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) Woah guys... get a suit, shop a few shirts at Marco Polo's and you'll get interest from women alright. Rent a hotel room and a Porsche for a day while you're at it and your "50 Shades of Grey" style is going to be a sex-guarantee, even if only for a single weekend! Or why else do you think that story went from simple online fanfiction to its own movie? So interesting you say this. I burned all my suits long ago. I hate 50 shades of grey and the domination in it, I just sold my car to ride a bicycle as my main form of transportation. It's fascinating to me how polar opposite this is. It's got to be more than these superficial things that separate the Chads from the Timmays. The theme is correct though. Plenty of time spent moaning and complaining about the lack of chicks, no self improvement. Directed toward another poster above: He says we had no control over genetics or socioeconomic backgrounds. I'll concede that. You have the lazy gene. I was not born into anything. Stopped looking like a geek, stopped being lame, made money, worked out every other day for years to get the right shape. So many people are so lazy, yet complain. I'm not sure women should mate with lazy people. Ruins our human genetics. Edited May 21, 2015 by loveweary11 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Horrible reasoning when you brake this down, HORRIBLE. At the end of the day life isn't fair, and people don't get what they want. Life, for most people, is a form of punishment and suffering. Billy and Timmy got ****ed because they weren't born with the genetics for sports, maybe they are autistic, innately socially retarded, have some flaw that they can't shake. Maybe they were poor, and had a hard time fitting in because they couldn't bond with the others because of their socio-economic status. Was that their fault? Maybe the things they are passionate about people see weird. Maybe they weren't accepted in school, bullied, and were socially trained to isolate, because they were told they were unwanted. This has HUGE implications for ones life. You just don't delete the past, and forget all the bad stuff, and go about acting confidently after being messed with for years on end. The people who succeed most likely relied on something that was completely out of hand. Grant it, a small minority finds a way to make it off sheer will power, but even for them luck sprouts up somewhere down the line. People that act confidently are the ones who society has praised and accepted. Why are they accepted? Looks, athletic capabilities, maybe a natural propensity to be good with people i.e charisma/status, wealth, whatever. The following usually propels people to success, and a large amount of it was not earned from working for it. People have minimal control of their lives. Life dictates to us, not vice versa. You think Billy and Timmy chose to be bullied? You think they chose their flaws? Do you think they to be friendless? We had no control of entering the world, and for the most part, we don't have any control of when we leave. The whole quote is wrong. We're talking about mating here, not basic kindness, respect, and pursuit of happiness. It's literally the survival of the fittest genes. No one is owed a mate, or the right to reproduce. 8 Link to post Share on other sites
kendahke Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) Horrible reasoning when you brake this down, HORRIBLE. At the end of the day life isn't fair, and people don't get what they want. Life, for most people, is a form of punishment and suffering. Billy and Timmy got ****ed because they weren't born with the genetics for sports, maybe they are autistic, innately socially retarded, have some flaw that they can't shake. Maybe they were poor, and had a hard time fitting in because they couldn't bond with the others because of their socio-economic status. Was that their fault? Maybe the things they are passionate about people see weird. Maybe they weren't accepted in school, bullied, and were socially trained to isolate, because they were told they were unwanted. This has HUGE implications for ones life. You just don't delete the past, and forget all the bad stuff, and go about acting confidently after being messed with for years on end. The people who succeed most likely relied on something that was completely out of hand. Grant it, a small minority finds a way to make it off sheer will power, but even for them luck sprouts up somewhere down the line. People that act confidently are the ones who society has praised and accepted. Why are they accepted? Looks, athletic capabilities, maybe a natural propensity to be good with people i.e charisma/status, wealth, whatever. The following usually propels people to success, and a large amount of it was not earned from working for it. People have minimal control of their lives. Life dictates to us, not vice versa. You think Billy and Timmy chose to be bullied? You think they chose their flaws? Do you think they to be friendless? We had no control of entering the world, and for the most part, we don't have any control of when we leave. The whole quote is wrong. Life ain't fair. Never was, never will be. whatever hand they were dealt in this life still doesn't mean they're owed something, especially when it comes to another human and that person's right to preferences in a mate and self determination for their own life. If you feel that strongly, then why don't you date timmy and billy? Edited May 21, 2015 by kendahke 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Rejected Rosebud Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 right I know I'm attractive men to get away with feeling a woman up and it not be creepy but if an attractive man that is it then it sexual harassment. I'm not sure if I can understand this post but if it says what I think is says then you are pretty off base legally and socially, ANY man "feeling a woman up" unless they are in a consensual situation is MORE than creepy he is a sex offender!!! Puleeeze!! Next are we gonna be told that we are ok being RAPED by a "hot" guy but we dislike it if he is not???:sick: Link to post Share on other sites
GorillaTheater Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I'm not sure if I can understand this post but if it says what I think is says then you are pretty off base legally and socially, ANY man "feeling a woman up" unless they are in a consensual situation is MORE than creepy he is a sex offender!!! Puleeeze!! Next are we gonna be told that we are ok being RAPED by a "hot" guy but we dislike it if he is not???:sick: I'm seeing a lot of truly amazing thought processes here that, if changed significantly, would really improve some of these guys' chances of reproductive success. Maybe it's Nature's way of controlling population growth. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Toodaloo Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I'm not sure women should mate with lazy people. Ruins our human genetics. I am inclined to agree for once but then I also have a very strong bias against laziness... and many other things as well... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJulySeptember Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I'm seeing a lot of truly amazing thought processes here that, if changed significantly, would really improve some of these guys' chances of reproductive success. Maybe it's Nature's way of controlling population growth. What he said was I'll admit an extreme representation of a joke that's been ongoing forever. He probably mis-spoke. See Tom Brady SNL skit and Chris Rock Live. Rock went as far as to say that if Clarence Thomas looked like Denzel Washington, then women wouldn't think it was sexual harassment. That's pretty much verbatim. And yes, women laughed. We all make bad jokes and make immature statements every now and then, women too. The correlation of human character to success with the opposite sex is in general a bad one, but I'll just leave it at that. Link to post Share on other sites
LookAtThisPOst Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I'm not sure if I can understand this post but if it says what I think is says then you are pretty off base legally and socially, ANY man "feeling a woman up" unless they are in a consensual situation is MORE than creepy he is a sex offender!!! Puleeeze!! Next are we gonna be told that we are ok being RAPED by a "hot" guy but we dislike it if he is not???:sick: Hey, I've seen women let guys do it. LOL. There's even a Facebook picture of a woman with a guy feeling her T & A with her doing the "finger on the chin and O-face" pose (if you can imagine that image). Must be an ego thing with her. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJulySeptember Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Hey, I've seen women let guys do it. LOL. There's even a Facebook picture of a woman with a guy feeling her T & A with her doing the "finger on the chin and O-face" pose (if you can imagine that image). Must be an ego thing with her. Can you send me that picture? Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Hey, I've seen women let guys do it. LOL. There's even a Facebook picture of a woman with a guy feeling her T & A with her doing the "finger on the chin and O-face" pose (if you can imagine that image). Must be an ego thing with her. The bolded: that's what consensual means. If she welcomes it, of course it's ok. We are sexual beings, after all. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
elaine567 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Consensual: agreed to by the people involved : done with the consent of the people involved 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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