Ninjainpajamas Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) OK, but if a woman posted photos that made her look a bit frumpy and fat and she showed up for the date looking svelte and fit, how many men would drive away in their car, because she "lied". Can't believe this actually had an affect on people...that's a pretty ridiculous example If you got hired for a job, and you got paid double your agreed salary...are you going to complain? But of course, you'd whip up a firestorm if it was half your agreed salary. If a tv show steals your (general) piece of junk car...crushes it right before my eyes as a prank, but pulls out with a brand new ideal car, then yes...you will be happy. It's an improvement, it is beyond your expectations...an improvement of the threshold of what you are already approved of, it's not a two steps in the opposite direction. They may have "lied", but it stands for my benefit and gain...if the woman is better looking, or in better shape, she is actually in the right direction. The misrepresentation comes from the person knowing there is a consequence of revealing the truth, it's a bait and switch...but you wouldn't argue with the guy selling you something if he cut the price down in half, because you already expected to pay more, not less...but he's not making you pay more for something that you didn't agree to pay. This is common sense...let's try to be adults in our examples here instead of children. I've already given this way more credit than it deserves, but c'mon people...you're clearly here to to cause a ruckus over something you dislike. Edited June 9, 2015 by Ninjainpajamas Link to post Share on other sites
Author fitnessfan365 Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Once again, nowhere in this thread has the OP stated or implied he has *rigid* standards with respect to a woman's weight or any thing else. In fact, to the contrary, he has stated numerous times he has NO issue with a woman's weight....he said he even PREFERS a woman who carries a few extra pounds and some "meat" on her bones. For the umpteenth time, this is NOT about how fat women are and the men who who refuse to date them...due to rigid standards. This thread is about the OP meeting women who "misrepresent" themselves to him, by claiming to be one thing via their cleverly manipulated photos... when in reality they are something else altogether when he meets them in person. It is their lying and misrepresenting themselves to him that he takes issue with. NOT the fact they are overweight. Understand? Thanks Katie. I saw a woman today that I wanted instantly who was easily 30-40lbs over weight. But it wasn't just her curves. Her body language was confident, and she had on the sexiest workout attire. Now some women in a size 12-14 would not want to wear the outfit. But she was rocking it like a size 4. This is the type of woman who would answer honestly on a dating profile and say she had "a few extra lbs". But since I was pulling out into traffic and she was out walking with headphones on, no cold approach for me. However, to hammer home the point once again. It isn't about larger women in general. Hell, I am very attracted to women that are larger. It's about deception, My example of deception just happens to be with extremely heavyset women who intentionally misrepresent themselves. Link to post Share on other sites
Vercetti Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Call me a Pollyana if you must, but I disagree. Just because some people are rigid and shallow doesn't mean we all are. It's like the cheater who always thinks everyone cheats, or the thief convinced everyone steals, people are just "in denial". No. Just no. So some people completely lack any self worth, have absolutely zero standards, and nothing that turns them off. They are completely mutable with no identity or integrity, have no fixed routine that works for anything, and they are never influanced by the physical world they live in ( not even a golden ratio catchs thier eye ). I wouldn't want to be such Non-entity and call it altruistic. Everyone is superficial and rigid to some degree. Babies with no pretense respound to symmetry. The most open person has some things they just will not do. Link to post Share on other sites
joseb Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 It's like men taking their picture down when they're not online. At first when I was new to online I did not assume anything but with time and a few bad stories now I know that a man that takes his pictures down when he's not online it's because he doesn't want to be found on there by a wife or a woman he's dating. Ah wow! I noticed a couple of women I had seen on OKC where there pictures seemed to have "disappeared" - I had no idea why but this makes total sense. OLD is really a bit of a minefield isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites
kendahke Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 The thread is pertaining to women on dating sites. Yes they are very visual and shallow. everyone is entitled to their preferences... I prefer men who are 6'+ because I"m 5'9 1/2". I have nothing for shorter men and I have dated shorter men. Just got finished dating one. I think a huge problem is that a lot of younger men feel that women are not entitled to their own preferences if they have an interest in the woman but the woman doesn't reciprocate her interest; while at the same time, they would never abandon their preferences for a woman they aren't attracted to--as if all the rights to that action belong to them alone. It doesn't. It's as if the guy's interest should be enough to override her preferences. That ain't going to happen. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
toscaroscura Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 So some people completely lack any self worth, have absolutely zero standards, and nothing that turns them off. They are completely mutable with no identity or integrity, have no fixed routine that works for anything, and they are never influanced by the physical world they live in ( not even a golden ratio catchs thier eye ). I wouldn't want to be such Non-entity and call it altruistic. Everyone is superficial and rigid to some degree. Babies with no pretense respound to symmetry. The most open person has some things they just will not do. I never said anything like that; now we are just going into the absurd. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
kitkatleen Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 On the other hand, i've always tell people that i'm huge & look different from my picture as i'm photogenic. I'm 5'7 and weigh around 170 pounds. Guys seems to be mad that i'm telling them that i'm huge. I'm not joking about this or trying to fish for compliments but i'm often told that i'm huge here. (i gain weight only on the upper body) So what is the definition of "fat" to guys? Link to post Share on other sites
jay1983 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 everyone is entitled to their preferences... I prefer men who are 6'+ because I"m 5'9 1/2". I have nothing for shorter men and I have dated shorter men. Just got finished dating one. I think a huge problem is that a lot of younger men feel that women are not entitled to their own preferences if they have an interest in the woman but the woman doesn't reciprocate her interest; while at the same time, they would never abandon their preferences for a woman they aren't attracted to--as if all the rights to that action belong to them alone. It doesn't. It's as if the guy's interest should be enough to override her preferences. That ain't going to happen. Would you make an exception for 5'11" The thread's about ladies who misrepresent themselves by hiding their weight in their pics or use angles to make themselves appear more attractive than they are in person. Some of the ladies here though it was shallow when the guys were disappointed. The comment I responded to said sexual women aren't necessarily shallow is why I brought up women online being equally as shallow. So the problem you speak of goes both ways. Link to post Share on other sites
Erised Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 On the other hand, i've always tell people that i'm huge & look different from my picture as i'm photogenic. I'm 5'7 and weigh around 170 pounds. Guys seems to be mad that i'm telling them that i'm huge. I'm not joking about this or trying to fish for compliments but i'm often told that i'm huge here. (i gain weight only on the upper body) So what is the definition of "fat" to guys? Height and weight say nothing. I have two friends who are around 5'4, so several inches shorter than you and 165. One is a size 6 or 8 depending on brand and I wouldn't call her overweight although she does. The other is a size 16 and she's definitely overweight (though sexy. She's an hourglass aside.) Taller, I imagine there's an even wider range. Even size depends on height. 5'4 and a size 10 is large. 5'9 and a size 10 isn't so much. And size says more than weight. And none of these tell you the storage pattern. Every guy also has different preferences. Link to post Share on other sites
toscaroscura Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 On the other hand, i've always tell people that i'm huge & look different from my picture as i'm photogenic. I'm 5'7 and weigh around 170 pounds. Guys seems to be mad that i'm telling them that i'm huge. I'm not joking about this or trying to fish for compliments but i'm often told that i'm huge here. (i gain weight only on the upper body) So what is the definition of "fat" to guys? I see guys stating much higher weights than mine as completely fat, disgusting and undateable! I'm heavier than I look (a lot of people are!) and I think lots of men have no clue about a woman's weight simply by eyeballing her and guessing. Link to post Share on other sites
Gaeta Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 On the other hand, i've always tell people that i'm huge & look different from my picture as i'm photogenic. I'm 5'7 and weigh around 170 pounds. Guys seems to be mad that i'm telling them that i'm huge. I'm not joking about this or trying to fish for compliments but i'm often told that i'm huge here. (i gain weight only on the upper body) So what is the definition of "fat" to guys? Depends on the man and depends where your fat is. I get away with murder at size 9-10 cause my fat is on my hips and boobs with a flat stomach. My best friend is the same weight as me except she carries her fat on her stomach, she has a hell of a hard time dating. So it's known science it does not matter what size you are, what matters is your shape. An hour glass shape is attractive at size 4 and also attractive at size 14. Link to post Share on other sites
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