: Super Sexual Girl Says She Wants to Go Slow?

[DaisyBug]

I'm surprised how much of a frenzy this thread is sending some people into. Hot topic, I guess.

 

I'm probably just going to call her in a couple of days and ask her out again, and see how that goes.

 

Good luck. I hope all goes well.

[katiegrl]

Okay katie, I'll read more... but I warn you, that might not change my opinion.... after all, you know how good my reading comprehension is.... are ya laughin' yet?!

 

Read my post 44.....:bunny:

[yxalitis]

She might be very sexual, but just not with you. She's just not that into you. If she does not want to kiss you on date one, she probably never will.

 

No problem - there are plenty of other fish in the sea, and you only need one good one.

 

So every girl who doesn't kiss on the first date never will..

Wow, what parallel universe do you reside in Gary...?

[Popsicle]

I'm surprised how much of a frenzy this thread is sending some people into. Hot topic, I guess.

 

I'm probably just going to call her in a couple of days and ask her out again, and see how that goes.

 

Of course you will.

[JJCaliGirl]

I'm surprised how much of a frenzy this thread is sending some people into. Hot topic, I guess.

 

I'm probably just going to call her in a couple of days and ask her out again, and see how that goes.

 

Good on you! It's great that you are going to give her a second chance. There may have been something that happened earlier that day or perhaps she's recently broke up with someone. I think it's easy to get distracted on "rejection" without considering another person's situation.

 

For instance, I had my first date after breaking up with my guy this past weekend, and I know I would have rejected the guy's attempt had he tried to kiss me. I like him enough to give him a second date, but I'm still a little reserved even though my OLD profiles say the exact opposite.

[yxalitis]

Good on you! There may have been something that happened earlier that day or perhaps she's recently broke up with someone. I think it's easy to get distracted on "rejection" without considering another person's situation.

 

For instance, I had my first date after breaking up with my guy this past weekend, and I know I would have rejected the guy's attempt had he tried to kiss me. I like him enough to give him a second date, but I'm still a little reserved even though my OLD profiles say the exact opposite.

 

Wait...ARE YOU THAT GIRL??

 

OP..she's here!

[JJCaliGirl]

Wait...ARE YOU THAT GIRL??

 

OP..she's here!

 

 

I'm not her, and the boy I went out with did not try to kiss me...thankfully!

[yxalitis]

 

I'm not her, and the boy I went out with did not try to kiss me...thankfully!

 

Oh,I misread your name as JJCallGirl

 

Sorry!

[Gary S]

Katie.... I read that he stroked her hair and they held hands.... big deal.... I've held hands with plenty of women who liked me to a degree, but not enough.

 

And I don't care what she wrote in her profile, or if she's a former pornstar.... I don't care if she's Debbie Does Dallas..... whether they are from Tennessee or Timbuktu, everywhere around the world, women are women... and when dealing with love and women, talk is cheap, but actions scream.... read my lips.... if a woman is really into a guy, she will kiss him on date one.

 

This is going to be one of the most controversial posts that I've made (again!) When I was just a wittle wuv doctor, there were at least two instances where I had attractive women come up to me and kiss me out of the blue... these were women I did not even have time to learn their names. Granted, in my younger years, I did look like a young Richard Gere, that may have worked in my favor (now, I look more like Pitt Bull, lol). Here, we are talking about less than that, we are simply talking about the man making the move, not the woman.

 

I can also tell you of many occasions where, when I was dating, I've kissed a woman full on the lips on a first internet meet/date... I'm sure it happened at least as many as fifteen times (or more)... now granted, most of those kisses, in reality, were nothing more than pecks... but others were passionate, long, searching kisses... these are not the kind of kisses you give your momma, lol! In fact, there have even been a few makeout sessions on the very first meet - These are on the first day I've ever met these women. Additionally, because I'm a relationship writer, I also written down the date stories to prove it... if that isn't enough, I have wing-women / lady friends who have been privy to these date stories... some of the women I have texted the play-by-play in real time, on the date (maybe I need to do that twitter thing?!) and one of those wing-women is around... in fact you know her well (I'll never name names publicly, I'll never talk - names are withheld to protect the guilty)! In short, I have proof, daddy comes packin'

 

I really don't like tooting my own horn, because many people would not believe me... but I have had it! I'm going to lay it all on the line in this post.... when I was dating, I dated everything from rock stars to rocket scientists, spies (the spy who loved me?!), and soccer mom's (go USA!), and everything in between. I've never been turned down for a kiss by a woman, when I went for it (okay, once I was turned down!). I have unusually strong intuition for a man, and can tell when getting close to a woman, as in hugging her, whether or not she wants to kiss me, going in, within a split second. I even took a crack at being a love psychic once (that was not entirely successful - the psychic fans expect miracles, lol!).

 

You know I love you and agree with a whole lot of what you say, you are a remarkable young woman. Every time you speak, people should listen, because you have common sense - which today, is uncommon. I enjoy reading your posts. But things can change drastically depending on a person's state of mind... a woman who realizes a special attraction to a man early on can act very differently from a woman who feels nothing special... a high love level out of the gate, a little dose of love at first sight can change a person's outlook and demeanor real quick. A rush of high initial attraction can change everything - believe it.

 

The bottom line? - A woman who is really into a man will kiss him on date one - all you have to do is, as a woman, ask yourself: have you ever kissed a guy on date one? Like I said, talk is cheap, but actions scream - this man had confidence, I commend him going for the first kiss (but after the first one, it was all over except for the cryin', he should have stopped there - next time he will know).... not all guys are that brave... but after the first rejection, honestly, he'd be a fool to go back for a second date... the odds say she won't ever want to kiss him, he''l probably just set himself up for rejection again, sorry. Foll me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me.

 

You pays your money and you picks your horse, but if you want a winner, pick one that will run right out of the gate. Why? - because if you are doing it right, dating is about efficiency, and making life easier, not harder. And in the end, you only need one good girlfriend who loves you too much, which is oh-so right. Women in love do it better. Like that old song by Kenny Rogers, the Gambler says, "You've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, Know when to walk away, know when to run."

 

Check out this article: WHAT DO YOU DO WITH A WOMAN WHO TELLS A MAN, “I DON’T KISS ON THE FIRST DATE”?

Edited July 6, 2015 by Gary S

[TheBathWater]

Katie.... I read that he stroked her hair and they held hands.... big deal.... I've held hands with plenty of women who liked me to a degree, but not enough.

 

And I don't care what she wrote in her profile, or if she's a former pornstar.... I don't care if she's Debbie Does Dallas..... whether they are from Tennessee or Timbuktu, everywhere around the world, women are women... and when dealing with love and women, talk is cheap, but actions scream.... read my lips.... if a woman is really into a guy, she will kiss him on date one.

 

This is going to be one of the most controversial posts that I've made (again!) When I was just a wittle wuv doctor, there were at least two instances where I had attractive women come up to me and kiss me out of the blue... these were women I did not even have time to learn their names. Granted, in my younger years, I did look like a young Richard Gere, that may have worked in my favor (now, I look more like Pitt Bull, lol). Here, we are talking about less than that, we are simply talking about the man making the move, not the woman.

 

I can also tell you of many occasions where, when I was dating, I've kissed a woman full on the lips on a first internet meet/date... I'm sure it happened at least as many as fifteen times (or more)... now granted, most of those kisses, in reality, were nothing more than pecks... but others were passionate, long, searching kisses... these are not the kind of kisses you give your momma, lol! In fact, there have even been a few makeout sessions on the very first meet - These are on the first day I've ever met these women. Additionally, because I'm a relationship writer, I also wrote down the date stories to prove it... if that isn't enough, I have wing-women / lady friends who have been privy to these date stories... some of the women I have texted the play-by-play in real time, on the date (maybe I need to do that twitter thing?!) and one of those wing-women is around... in fact you know her well (I'll never name manes publicly, I'll never talk - names are withheld to protect the guilty)! In short, I have proof, daddy comes packin'

 

I really don't like tooting my own horn, because many people would not believe me... but I have had it! I'm going to lay it all on the line in this post.... when I was dating, I dated everything from rock stars to rocket scientists, spies (the spy who loved me?!), and soccer mom's (go USA!), and everything in between. I've never been turned down for a kiss by a woman, when I went for it (okay, once I was turned down!). I have unusually strong intuition for a man, and can tell when getting close to a woman, as in hugging her, whether or not she wants to kiss me, within a split second. I even took a crack at being a love psychic once (that was not entirely successful - the psychic fans expect miracles, lol!).

 

You know I love you and agree with a whole lot of what you say, you are a remarkable young woman. Every time you speak, people should listen, because you have common sense - which today, is uncommon. I enjoy reading your posts. But things can change drastically depending on a person's state of mind... a woman who realizes a special attraction to a man early on can act very differently from a woman who feels nothing special... a high love level out of the gate, a little dose of love at first sight can change a person's outlook and demeanor real quick. A rush of high initial attraction can change everything - believe it.

 

The bottom line? - A woman who is really into a man will kiss him on date one - all you have to do is, as a woman, ask yourself: have you ever kissed a guy on date one? Like I said, talk is cheap, but actions scream - this man had confidence, I commend him going for the first kiss (but after the first one, it was all over except for the cryin', he should have stopped there - next time he will know).... not all guys are that brave... but after the first rejection, honestly, he'd be a fool to go back for a second date... the odds say she won't ever want to kiss him, he''l probably just set himself up for rejection again, sorry. Foll me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me.

 

You pays your money and you picks your horse, but if you want a winner, pick one that will run right out of the gate. Why? - because if you are doing it right, dating is about efficiency, and making life easier, not harder. And in the end, you only need one good girlfriend who loves you too much, which is oh-so right. Women in love do it better. Like that old song by Kenny Rogers, the Gambler says, "You've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, Know when to walk away, know when to run."

 

Check out this article: WHAT DO YOU DO WITH A WOMAN WHO TELLS A MAN, “I DON’T KISS ON THE FIRST DATE”?

 

I have to say, I really agree with your line of thinking. Maybe we pursue women in similar ways, I don't know, but I am always on the make with a woman if I'm into her from minute one. Not disrespectful or presumptuous, but she knows without a doubt I'm not here to be her friend. Having said that, I have rarely NOT tried to kiss a woman on the first date. If I chose not to, for some reason, most of the time it never wound up happening ever. I would say 9.5/10 times that I do attempt on the first date, it lands. I agree that, generally, if a woman is into a guy she will kiss him, and if she doesn't then she is not (IME, this has always been true if she was the one to reject the kiss). I'm sure there are outliers where some women are consciously overriding their desires and trying to do things differently for whatever reason, but even then, I can't help but feel she would say something more encouraging ("we really shouldn't be doing this, though I want to") instead of lambasting a man for trying. Hmm... now I'm all confused.

[Popsicle]

To say that "all women who like you kiss on the first date" or "all women who like you will have sex on the first date" is ridiculous. There is no such thing as all women do this or all women do that. Women are as varied as the colors in a spectrum.

[katiegrl]

To say that "all women who like you kiss on the first date" or "all women who like you will have sex on the first date" is ridiculous. There is no such thing as all women do this or all women do that. Women are as varied as the colors in a spectrum.

 

First off, thank you to Gary for taking the time to write such a thought-provoking post.

 

And I love you too......but I gotta agree with Popsicle's post ^^ on this one.

 

JMO, but I don't believe in generalizing the actions of an entire gender based on how some, or even most, women (or men if roles were reversed) would behave, or have behaved, in the same situation.

 

Every woman is different, every situation is different, and as such, every response will be different.

 

Look, you may be right! Maybe she's not "really" into him....but I think it's worth, at the very least, a second date if she's open to it. If she's not, then fine, next.

 

But great post!

[yxalitis]

First off, thank you to Gary for taking the time to write such a thought-provoking post.

 

And I love you too......but I gotta agree with Popsicle's post ^^ on this one.

 

JMO, but I don't believe in generalizing the actions of an entire gender based on how some, or even most, women (or men if roles were reversed) would behave, or have behaved, in the same situation.

 

Every woman is different, every situation is different, and as such, every response will be different.

 

Look, you may be right! Maybe she's not "really" into him....but I think it's worth, at the very least, a second date if she's open to it. If she's not, then fine, next.

 

But great post!

*kicks can

 

*grumbles: I though my post was good....

To Gary.

Your personal experience does not the world make.

That's the very definition of "Anecdotal evidence"

And looking like a "young Richard Gere" certainly improved your chances...

A classic example where good looks has a subconscious and under appreciated impact of members of the opposite sex.

Ever heard girls talk like this:

"I was in the bar last night and some guy came up behind me and gave me this awful pick-up line, I was going to turn around and tell him to bugger off, but he was GORGEOUS!"

"What happened"

"lol, I took him home!"

[Popsicle]

I don't know, but I am always on the make with a woman if I'm into her from minute one. Not disrespectful or presumptuous, but she knows without a doubt I'm not here to be her friend.

 

That is a very good thing. Don't change that.

[Gary S]

Thank you Katie for saying it was a good post, it means a lot to me.

 

I told ya it would be a controversial post! If I'm lyin', I'm dyin'! This whole issue of, "will a woman kiss a man on the first date" is one of the most controversial! Thank you for being cordial with your arguments.

 

For my next argument, let me just remind you that certain unnamed people have done more than that on a first date - and kissing is NOT sex! Argue with that, lol - let's see you argue with that, lol! I wuv you (I'm may not git outta this thread alive, lol!).

 

All I'm saying is: which does a guy have a better chance with - the girl who kisses him on date one, or the girl who does not? Think about it. I mean, comeon, I've kissed tons of women on date one - and Pitt Bull ain't even got hair, lol!

 

I wuv you too Popsicle, please don't hurt me too bad, lol

[Popsicle]

I wuv you too Popsicle, please don't hurt me too bad, lol

 

If you really do look like a young Richard Gere (which I missed above) I might hurt you....

[Gary S]

If you really do look like a young Richard Gere (which I missed above) I might hurt you....

 

- Did Popsicle, as in a long time ago.... now I look more like Pitt Bull - whatever you do, don't ever grow up to be an old man... it's just not a pretty picture

[yxalitis]

Thank you Katie for saying it was a good post, it means a lot to me.

 

I told ya it would be a controversial post! If I'm lyin', I'm dyin'! This whole issue of, "will a woman kiss a man on the first date" is one of the most controversial! Thank you for being cordial with your arguments.

 

For my next argument, let me just remind you that certain unnamed people have done more than that on a first date - and kissing is NOT sex! Argue with that, lol - let's see you argue with that, lol! I wuv you (I'm may not git outta this thread alive, lol!).

 

All I'm saying is: which does a guy have a better chance with - the girl who kisses him on date one, or the girl who does not? Think about it. I mean, comeon, I've kissed tons of women on date one - and Pitt Bull ain't even got hair, lol!

 

I wuv you too Popsicle, please don't hurt me too bad, lol

The point remains (And I know you're ignoring me cos I aint got tits), but YOUR experience is NOT universal.

No one said that if a girl kisses a guy on the first date, that it's not an indication she's interested, more interested than if she didn't.

What you stated however was that if a girl is into a guy she will ALWAYS kiss him if he tries.

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Have you never heard of shy, introverted, religious, or just simply cautious woman who can wait for the 2nd date to kiss.

Oh, sorry, I'll come back when I have a pussy so you'll respond to me.

[yxalitis]

- Did Popsicle, as in a long time ago.... now I look more like Pitt Bull - whatever you do, don't ever grow up to be an old man... it's just not a pretty picture

And how the hell do you go from Richard Gere to Pitbull?

Surgery?

Car accident?

[DaisyBug]

Myself, on a first date, I'd just want to get to know a guy, and see if he's someone I'd be interested in kissin'. I don't kiss if I don't mean it.

Edited July 6, 2015 by DaisyBug

[katiegrl]

Thank you Katie for saying it was a good post, it means a lot to me.

 

I told ya it would be a controversial post! If I'm lyin', I'm dyin'! This whole issue of, "will a woman kiss a man on the first date" is one of the most controversial! Thank you for being cordial with your arguments.

 

***For my next argument, let me just remind you that certain unnamed people have done more than that on a first date - and kissing is NOT sex! Argue with that, lol - let's see you argue with that, lol! I wuv you (I'm may not git outta this thread alive, lol!).****

 

All I'm saying is: which does a guy have a better chance with - the girl who kisses him on date one, or the girl who does not? Think about it. I mean, comeon, I've kissed tons of women on date one - and Pitt Bull ain't even got hair, lol!

 

I wuv you too Popsicle, please don't hurt me too bad, lol

 

Quote in asterisk.... well you got me on that one, didn't yas! :bunny:

 

And yah, for ME, *I* would be having no problem kissing a man on the first date....and in my current relationship, a heck of a lot more than that! Lol

 

But not ALL women are like me, that's all I'm saying. And not all women feel "really" into a man on the first date either. Sometimes it takes two dates for her to *really* start feeling it!

 

Especially with OLD...those first dates can be awkward and nerve-wracking!

[Gary S]

Katiegirl, most SANE women are like you, on some basic levels, when it comes to love and relationships... when they meet the right man of course. Humans follow predictable patterns (waitaminnite - nobody is like you - I'm joking!).

 

But listen, I'm a lover, not a fighter - who was it that said that in a song? - was that the younger, black Micheal Jackson, or the older white version

[yxalitis]

Humans follow predictable patterns

 

I would strenuously disagree with that assertion.

Oh, Katigirl, can you type this for me so that Gary reads it?

Thanks!

[mindykaling]

Just because she lists such things in her profile doesn't mean she's going to take you to bed, and sure doesn't mean you should feel entitled to sleep with her, let alone kiss her. Idk why men think like this but they do! It's not like every sexually charged guy would sleep with every woman they come across...Or would they???? Maybe women have higher standards! :laugh:

[yxalitis]

Just because she lists such things in her profile doesn't mean she's going to take you to bed, and sure doesn't mean you should feel entitled to sleep with her, let alone kiss her. Idk why men think like this but they do! It's not like every sexually charged guy would sleep with every woman they come across...Or would they???? Maybe women have higher standards! :laugh:

Not higher standards, higher sensibilities