IhavenoFREAKINclue Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Is honesty really the BEST policy? Lately it seems the more honest i am....the more trouble i get into. i went to court for a speeding ticket the other day. I was brutally honest and it got me nowhere! Judge: "Were you speeding" Me: " Yes Sir, I may have been going over the regulation speed" Judge "$300.00, 6 points and $100 court fees" Me: I was straight forward and honest and I guess the judge wasn't impressed with honesty. When I was with my ex, there was a situation where i could have lied and gotten away with it but instead I didn't. Next thing ya know there is a hole in the wall from a book flying past my head. I know there are some situations that require a little white lie "Do I look fat in these?" "That is the cutest baby I have ever seen"!! I'm looking for someone to tell me that honesty does pay off and people respect that. So again, my question is Is honesty really the BEST policy? Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Originally posted by IhavenoFREAKINclue So again, my question is Is honesty really the BEST policy? in some situations it is and in some situations it is not. Link to post Share on other sites
tiki Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Honesty is the best policy most of the time. Not all the time, by any means. Think about it.... Your sister looks fat as hell in her polka-dotted church dress. She asks you how she looks? Honesty not the best policy. You have a boyfriend and you kissed a guy when you were sloshey out at the club on Friday night. Ypu feel REALLY bad about it. Honesty is the best policy. Take it as you go. I woulda lied my brains out. Link to post Share on other sites
jade_nc Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 you can't have a relationship that's based on lies and deceit - even white ones. i have more respect for someone who can look me in the eye and tell me the truth about what they think, feel than someone who only tells me what i want to hear. Link to post Share on other sites
d'Arthez Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Originally posted by IhavenoFREAKINclue Is honesty really the BEST policy? Lately it seems the more honest i am....the more trouble i get into. i went to court for a speeding ticket the other day. I was brutally honest and it got me nowhere! Judge: "Were you speeding" Me: " Yes Sir, I may have been going over the regulation speed" Judge "$300.00, 6 points and $100 court fees" Me: I was straight forward and honest and I guess the judge wasn't impressed with honesty. Hey, what did you expect? Judge: "Wow IHNFC, I admire your honesty. Honesty makes speeding permissible. Next case!" Link to post Share on other sites
tiki Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Originally posted by jade_nc you can't have a relationship that's based on lies and deceit - even white ones. i have more respect for someone who can look me in the eye and tell me the truth about what they think, feel than someone who only tells me what i want to hear. Her ticket/court date wasn't based on a relationship though. And in the end, do you really think the judge thought to himself, "Wow...she was really honest"? Probably not. Link to post Share on other sites
LittleMiss Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 I agree with the others. Sometimes a white lie is necessary to spare someones feelings. In other cases you should be truthful. Especially with your SO. Big lies always have a way of coming back and biting you in the a$$. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Originally posted by jade_nc you can't have a relationship that's based on lies and deceit - even white ones. sure you can! the Bush Administration has a relationship with the American public that is mainly based upon lies and deceipt and it seems to be going OK so far! Link to post Share on other sites
jade_nc Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 tiki - i was just trying to answer the question the poster posed...... I'm looking for someone to tell me that honesty does pay off and people respect that. So again, my question is Is honesty really the BEST policy? to me, yes it's the best policy. yes, it does pay off when you're dealing with me. yes, i respect that. Link to post Share on other sites
TUDOR Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Honesty is like fire, it can keep you warm and safe but it can also burn the hell out of you. You will figure out when there is chance to get burned and just put on a coat and "cover up" instead playing with the fire. Link to post Share on other sites
tanbark813 Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Originally posted by alphamale sure you can! the Bush Administration has a relationship with the American public that is mainly based upon lies and deceipt and it seems to be going OK so far! Clinton wasn't exactly Mr. Truthful. As for the speeding ticket, I think you just got bad luck. I once got ticketed for 95 in a 65 and when I went to court and plead guilty, the judge cut the fine in half. He was harsher on people who tried to bs their way out of it because they were wasting his time. Also, I've learned that if you're honest with the cops when you get pulled over, 50% of the time they'll just let you off with a warning. As for romantic relationships, don't do shady s*** in the first place and then the question of honesty being the best policy becomes irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites
Author IhavenoFREAKINclue Posted May 4, 2005 Author Share Posted May 4, 2005 Originally posted by tanbark813 As for the speeding ticket, I think you just got bad luck. I once got ticketed for 95 in a 65 and when I went to court and plead guilty, the judge cut the fine in half. He was harsher on people who tried to bs their way out of it because they were wasting his time. Thats what I thought he would think. I got right to the point and figured he would appreciate me not beating around the bush....Guess not. Link to post Share on other sites
laRubiaBonita Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 As in life, there are always those "Exceptions" to every rule. maybe if you had lied about the ticket, the judge would have doubled it! so maybe you DID get off well. Plus~ 6 points!!! my god, how fast were you going? Link to post Share on other sites
Merin Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Damn For real? I just went to court last Month for a Pimp Mac Daddy speeding ticket and the Judge reduced it to a defective vehicle charge 2 points and court cost of 60 Bucks LOL Do you have a lot of other tickets girl? IF so that could explain the Judge not giving you a plea bargain... OH and to answer the question... Yeah being Honest is the best policy... Just remember it isn't a lie if you believe it's true... JK JK JK Link to post Share on other sites
Author IhavenoFREAKINclue Posted May 4, 2005 Author Share Posted May 4, 2005 Originally posted by Merin LOL Do you have a lot of other tickets girl? IF so that could explain the Judge not giving you a plea bargain... First one ever! LRB- I was goin 85 in a 55 Link to post Share on other sites
LittleMiss Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 What are these points that you all keep mentioning? Link to post Share on other sites
Merin Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Originally posted by IhavenoFREAKINclue First one ever! LRB- I was goin 85 in a 55 Noooo Way! All I can say is the Judge didn't get any a** the night before and he was a cranky MoFo! I was going a lot faster... but the Cop who pulled me over gave me a break on how fast he clocked me at... and the Judge gave me a plea... *Merin now feels lucky* Link to post Share on other sites
laRubiaBonita Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Originally posted by IhavenoFREAKINclue First one ever! LRB- I was goin 85 in a 55 well that is the reason! One can usually talk there way outta being 5-7 miles over the speed limit.....no 30! Link to post Share on other sites
Merin Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Originally posted by gtab What are these points that you all keep mentioning? You get a total of 12 points on your DL as an adult driver... but they can be taken away if you have tickets... so if you keep getting tickets and you lose all your points you also lose your DL Link to post Share on other sites
LittleMiss Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Is that in every state? I live in Texas and have never heard of this. Link to post Share on other sites
greenhorn Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Honesty is always the best policy, but it's ramifications might not be best.But the question is the act not the consequences of act? An enemy of yours might be honest but even then the result will be bad for you,but in the long run you would appreciate that. It takes a lot of courage to be honest, and is not everyone's cup of tea.In the same way it is not everyone's capability to appreciate honesty or even identify it. You can't be honest and please everyone else, so the hand book says if someone always agrees to you then be sure that the person is not honest and not turstworthy. Link to post Share on other sites
tanbark813 Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Originally posted by gtab Is that in every state? I live in Texas and have never heard of this. It varies. The points system in Cali works much differently than other states that have been mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites
TUDOR Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Originally posted by gtab Is that in every state? I live in Texas and have never heard of this. I live in TX too and have received many tickets and have never heard of it being implied in TX. Just called my wife who works for a law firm and she says no. The handled lots of DWI cases and I'm sure it would come up. You never know though. Link to post Share on other sites
Author IhavenoFREAKINclue Posted May 4, 2005 Author Share Posted May 4, 2005 To top that off when I got the ticket....b/c i was doing 30 over...he gave me reckless..... I was able to get that one dropped! He was in a pissy mood. 30 seconds and he had me by my nipples Link to post Share on other sites
Linlin Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Originally posted by greenhorn Honesty is always the best policy, but it's ramifications might not be best.But the question is the act not the consequences of act? Very true. I was just honest with someone I was dating and now he has disappeared and not spoken or emailed me for several days. It takes a lot of courage to be honest, and is not everyone's cup of tea.In the same way it is not everyone's capability to appreciate honesty or even identify it. Again, I though I was dealing with a man and not a boy. If someone asks you to talk to them and are honest, shutting down is not the way to deal with it. Right now I feel like not opening up and sharing for a long time. Link to post Share on other sites
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