Is honesty really the BEST policy?

[tiki]

But complete honesty could entail hurtful things being said. Like such:

 

Hello officer. Yes, I was speeding. I was late for school and had the need to drive at reckless speeds to get there on time. I woke up late, in a fog....had a little too much weed last night. By the way, did you know that you have a booger hanging out of your left nostril? No sir....I won't speed again. That shirt is way too tight on you, for that big buddah belly of yours. And that Enrique Englesias mole should be checked, it looks a little crusty. Thanks so much for this ticket officer, now I can't pay by bills this month. You have a good day too...right after you KISS MY ASS!!!!

 

See....you can't be brutally, totally honest. Come on. You'd hurt people left and right.

 

Imagine if people were completely honest with YOU. Even I wouldn't want that!

[tanbark813]

Originally posted by tiki

Hello officer. Yes, I was speeding. I was late for school and had the need to drive at reckless speeds to get there on time. I woke up late, in a fog....had a little too much weed last night. By the way, did you know that you have a booger hanging out of your left nostril? No sir....I won't speed again. That shirt is way too tight on you, for that big buddah belly of yours. And that Enrique Englesias mole should be checked, it looks a little crusty. Thanks so much for this ticket officer, now I can't pay by bills this month. You have a good day too...right after you KISS MY ASS!!!!

 

There's a difference between being honest and being retarded.

[greenhorn]

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[tiki]

Originally posted by tanbark813

There's a difference between being honest and being retarded.

 

So when do you draw the line? When you're hurting someone else's feelings?

 

EXACTLY!!!

[tanbark813]

Originally posted by tiki

So when do you draw the line? When you're hurting someone else's feelings?

 

EXACTLY!!!

 

I guess. But this is what I meant:

 

Dishonesty:

Cop: "Do you know why I pulled you over?"

Person: "Ummm.. no."

Cop: "Do you know how fast you were going?"

Person: "Ummm... maybe 55?"

 

Bam. Instant ticket.

 

Honesty:

Cop: "Do you know why I pulled you over?"

Person: "Speeding, sir."

Cop: "Yes. Do you know how fast you were going?"

Person: "About 80."

 

There's a good chance you'll just get a warning.

 

Retardation:

Cop: "Do you know why I pulled you over?"

Person: "F*ck yeah I do! Wooooo!!! I was f*cking flying!!!!"

 

 

[d'Arthez]

Originally posted by tiki

But complete honesty could entail hurtful things being said. Like such:

 

Hello officer. Yes, I was speeding. I was late for school and had the need to drive at reckless speeds to get there on time. I woke up late, in a fog....had a little too much weed last night. By the way, did you know that you have a booger hanging out of your left nostril? No sir....I won't speed again. That shirt is way too tight on you, for that big buddah belly of yours. And that Enrique Englesias mole should be checked, it looks a little crusty. Thanks so much for this ticket officer, now I can't pay by bills this month. You have a good day too...right after you KISS MY ASS!!!!

 

See....you can't be brutally, totally honest. Come on. You'd hurt people left and right.

 

Imagine if people were completely honest with YOU. Even I wouldn't want that!

 

I don't see why the honesty would be so bad. If you were such an idiot, you'd better be telling so, so that people around you are warned. There is a reason why reckless driving is prohibited, as is driving under influence.

[tiki]

Originally posted by tanbark813

I guess. But this is what I meant:

 

Dishonesty:

Cop: "Do you know why I pulled you over?"

Person: "Ummm.. no."

Cop: "Do you know how fast you were going?"

Person: "Ummm... maybe 55?"

 

Bam. Instant ticket.

 

Honesty:

Cop: "Do you know why I pulled you over?"

Person: "Speeding, sir."

Cop: "Yes. Do you know how fast you were going?"

Person: "About 80."

 

There's a good chance you'll just get a warning.

 

Retardation:

Cop: "Do you know why I pulled you over?"

Person: "F*ck yeah I do! Wooooo!!! I was f*cking flying!!!!"

 

 

 

:lmao: You outta get into journalism kid! You have such a way with words.

[RecordProducer]

I guess it turns out that in situations when you can get away with lies and not get caught it is better to lie and save your ass or spare others the pain. I agree with you, IhavenoFREAKINclue. Brutal honesty is stupid. You only have one life to live. You can lie sometimes and still be a good person. For example, you don't have to tell people things from your past (even if they pose the questions) if you think that they will project your past deeds on the future. Why do I have to explain my new BF that I cheated on my ex-BF, because I wanted to dump him but changed my mind, another time because I knew he didn't love, etc. I know I will never cheat on a guy in a normal relationship. I know that if I say some things, I will be considered something that I am not. People jump into conclusions because of various reasons. If I am brutally honest, I need to spend my life defending myself for everything I did.

However, I am honest 99% of my life and don't pretend to be something that I am not.

[tanbark813]

Originally posted by tiki

:lmao: You outta get into journalism kid! You have such a way with words.

 

Thanks.

[alphamale]

Another example based upon TANBARK's post:

 

Man and woman after she just gave him a terrible blow job:

 

Dishonesty:

Her: "How was that blow job baby?"

Him: "Ummm.. great, best I ever had, your technique is superb."

Her: "I love you honey"

Him: "I love you too" (he cleans up then hits computer to surf match.com for more talent)

 

 

Honesty:

Her: "How was that blow job baby?"

Him: "Ummm.. i've had better, my ex was the best at it"

Her: "You're an a-hole, I'm leaving you for your brother"

Him: "Great, don't shred his dick up too much, oh, and could u make me a sandwich before u split?"

 

 

Retardation:

Her: "How was that blow job baby?"

Him: "It sucked big time you dumb biotch"

Her: "You're an a-hole, I'm leaving you for your ex-wife"

Him: "Do I smell threesome?"

 

 

[tiki]

That was great, alpha.

 

he cleans up then hits computer to surf match.com for more talent

 

 

Honesty is not always the best policy, especially when it's brutal honesty. Forward with caution!

[alphamale]

Originally posted by tiki

That was great, alpha.

thanx TIKI

[IhavenoFREAKINclue]

So not telling the whole truth is ok. Complete honesty will get you in trouble.

[dgiirl]

Do what makes you more comfortable. If you want honesty from people, you should give honesty.

 

My x believed that withholding the truth was NOT a lie. I believe it is. He withheld the fact that he's unhappy for years and then he split. I believe he lied!

[laRubiaBonita]

well at least when you are honest about something, it is less stress in the long run.

[jade_nc]

and being honest doesn't HAVE to be brutal. you choose to make it that way.

 

for ex......i can say - i don't care for strawberries, instead of saying - i think strawberries are the worst freaking mistake god ever made. blech!

 

being honest doesn't mean you have to be rude, crude, or hurtful.

[mental_traveller]

Originally posted by RecordProducer

You can lie sometimes and still be a good person. For example, you don't have to tell people things from your past (even if they pose the questions) if you think that they will project your past deeds on the future. Why do I have to explain my new BF that I cheated on my ex-BF, because I wanted to dump him but changed my mind, another time because I knew he didn't love, etc. I know I will never cheat on a guy in a normal relationship. I know that if I say some things, I will be considered something that I am not.

 

The trouble with this approach is you get used to lying and rationalising things away to make life easier for yourself. It's a slippery slope and very easy to drift into more harmful lies. If you cheated, regret it, and had your reasons, then why lie about it? Just say you had a bad relationship and don't want to discuss that topic. Don't invent something that could come back to haunt you - what if your bf finds out later that you lied to him about being unfaithful? He may well dump you, whereas if you just were honest about it, he would probably understand. Also wouldn't it feel so much better if things were out in the open? Hiding secrets from your serious bf is just storing up trouble down the road, IMO.

 

Lying is good when you are dealing with enemies, bad people, business competitors, etc. Being tactful, as opposed to brutally honest, is also useful with a lot of people you meet day to day. But outright deceit is a bad idea in most cases, and especially with people you know well and care about. It's deceptive to them, and it corrupts your own character. People might be initially put out by honesty, but in the long run they will respect and trust you much more.

[RecordProducer]

Originally posted by mental_traveller

Lying is good when you are dealing with enemies, bad people, business competitors, etc. Being tactful, as opposed to brutally honest, is also useful with a lot of people you meet day to day. But outright deceit is a bad idea in most cases, and especially with people you know well and care about. It's deceptive to them, and it corrupts your own character. People might be initially put out by honesty, but in the long run they will respect and trust you much more.

 

You're completely right! I haven't lied to him so far. He hasn't asked me if I have cheated on my EX's yet and if he does I will tell him the truth. But maybe not the whole truth.

I work for myself, ya know.