Message to guys: get primal

[Camaro Guy]

It really just shocks me how many guys think that once they get the car, the job, the clothes, or whatever, women will come flocking. They might, but it's certainly for all the wrong reasons. We already have everything we need to succeed with women inside of us. Our masculine core. Many men have fallen out of touch with this due to bull**** societal conditioning, bad food, or a miserable combination of the two.

 

Namely, I'm talking about testosterone. It's the one thing that separates us from females. It allows us to take risks. Be brave. Gain muscle. Be aggressive. And lots of other things. I have a feeling a lot of guys here are suffering from low t. It makes you feel not like a man and it really just makes you feel like a dead corpse. Not fun.

 

Having sex boosts testosterone. I feel so good when I'm just making a woman convulse in deep pleasure and she's just grabbing me for dear life. I didn't get laid for the past 4 days, when I have been having sex virtually every day for the past 3 weeks. One of the girls I'm having sex with is out of town, the other one is on her period, and the other one just lost her grandmother. I could have gone out and pulled a girl and had the sexy time with her but I said no. I'm gonna ride this and see what it can do for me.

 

I started to get agitated and extremely aggressive on the second day. I felt more...masculine. But I knew how to channel it. If you have low testosterone, do these things: work out with heavy weights, sleep well, have a good, clean diet, and cut fat. Fat is an inhibitor of testosterone. The more fat you have, the less testosterone you will have.

 

We men have two heads. We often let the "rational" head get in the way. Take your rational head out of the way and let the other one do the "thinking". If you feel that a girl makes you "tingly", by all means step to her. But you have to do it RIGHT.

 

I also don't masturbate or look at porn at all, so I have no sexual release whatsoever. When you put yourself on those terms, you have no choice to get laid or else you will go insane. I also have a feeling many men on here like masturbating to porn. Cut it out. Cut it all out. You have no reason to masturbate to porn unless you are having sex. Even then, you still have no reason.

 

Don't think that by acting out on your primal desires, you will offend girls. No. Women love raunchy, hot, dirty sex and they wanted it yesterday. They're just good at hiding it. If you think a girl is a "slut" for having sex, you will never make her feel free enough to unleash that side of her around you.

 

I also truly feel that many men get or want to get a girlfriend out of desperation. They want out of the dating game. They just want a girl to accept them as they are even though they aren't really that fun to be around. Even though they don't get a girl's motor going. They just want a cool, hot girlfriend even though they have done nothing do deserve it. They can't take the pain and they want out.

 

I laugh at guys like these because I used to be that guy. I know that if I want a cool, hot girlfriend, I'm going to have to approach and get rejected and get torn to pieces. Over and over and over again. Few of us get that lucky on the first try.

 

If you're in your twenties, there is no reason why you shouldn't be having sex and meeting new women. If you aren't, you are wasting your time and I feel deeply sorry for you. Step up, nut up, and do it. Scared of meeting women? I was too. I still am! But I push through that fear because I know that the possibility of me getting laid is higher if I approach! You don't approach out of fear of rejection because you feel your little ego can't take it. Guess what? Mine can't either. But I still do it.

 

Stop doing disservice to your ancestors guys. Approach women with masculine intent like you mean it. When you deprive yourself of any sexual stimulation, you'll be surprised what you can do.

Edited July 25, 2015 by Camaro Guy

[mrldii]

...Namely, I'm talking about testosterone. It's the one thing that separates us from females...

 

 

Nahhh...women have it, too. Younger males have it at higher levels than younger females, but as we age both women and men lose their levels of gender-defining hormones, making the opposite-gender's hormones to appear more prominent than before.

 

It one of the reasons that it's often difficult to determine (at first glance) the gender of humans who are 85+ years old.

 

 

If you'd like to learn more:

 

Hormones levels in (aging) men:

Male Hormone Restoration - Testosterone, Estrogen, Prostate - Life Extension Health Concern

 

Hormone levels in (aging) women:

Normal Testosterone and Estrogen Levels in Women

[Gloria25]

Can you send some of these primal dudes my way?

 

Cuz, looks like I'm heading towards another sexless weekend

 

Oh well, sucks to be Gloria25

 

Eh, but a beer tonite, porn and TLC with Lady J will have to do :/

[BronzeAgeJaeger217]

Well lately I've gotten some social momentum going, going out more lately, but one thing I suck at a lot is flirting, teasing, and bantering with girls, I think I've gotten a little bit with small talk, basic conversation, but flirting, teasing I struggle with, how did you learn how to flirt, tease, banter? Did you study any PUA's or dating coaches advice?

 

Or have you been able to get girls numbers, get laid, just from basic small talk, conversation, etc.?

[Camaro Guy]

Well lately I've gotten some social momentum going, going out more lately, but one thing I suck at a lot is flirting, teasing, and bantering with girls, I think I've gotten a little bit with small talk, basic conversation, but flirting, teasing I struggle with, how did you learn how to flirt, tease, banter? Did you study any PUA's or dating coaches advice?

 

Or have you been able to get girls numbers, get laid, just from basic small talk, conversation, etc.?

 

To me, the desire to get pussy overcame any of my perceived inadequacies. I knew what I had to do, so I did it. I'm a naturally flirtatious and playful person but I buried that throughout the years. Once I got in touch with my inner child of who I used to be, it was easy street.

[bachdude]

If you're in your twenties, there is no reason why you shouldn't be having sex and meeting new women. If you aren't, you are wasting your time and I feel deeply sorry for you.

 

Looking to bang as many women as possible is not a masculine trait. Maybe in the age of the Neanderthals it was. But not any more.

 

Self control (controlling one's primal urges) is a more masculine trait than trying to be a modern day Don Giovanni.

[ltjg45]

Looking to bang as many women as possible is not a masculine trait. Maybe in the age of the Neanderthals it was. But not any more.

 

Self control (controlling one's primal urges) is a more masculine trait than trying to be a modern day Don Giovanni.

 

With that said, I also add that most guys don't have the kind of energy necessary to pull it off.

 

As for me, I don't find any enjoyment from banging multiple random women especially with the financial and emotional costs necessary to do so.

 

I am already broke and I got enough stress and problems to begin with. Why add more just so I can say that I have entered my penis in a vagina for a few hours and possibly got her pregnant?

 

I rather just fine one woman for me to commit to. With that, I know that if she is up for it, is not holding back sex as a weapon against me, and I am willing, I can look forward to sex at any given time, which sounds like a far better deal with me than approaching hundreds of women over a month and trying to convince them to sleep with me.

 

It is just a matter of finding that one woman to consider commitment with first, which is difficult since it takes a lot for me to like a woman, let alone consider her as a relationship prospect.

[BronzeAgeJaeger217]

To me, the desire to get pussy overcame any of my perceived inadequacies. I knew what I had to do, so I did it. I'm a naturally flirtatious and playful person but I buried that throughout the years. Once I got in touch with my inner child of who I used to be, it was easy street.

 

Damn, there's gotta be way I can learn how to flirt, tease

[SycamoreCircle]

OP, I think what you're saying has validity and is complete bullroar all at the same time. It's the concern of a young man, in my opinion. A young man who NEEDS much from women.

 

I think there are a lot of men out there who want to be connected to women. And one way to do that is to be highly sexually engaged with them, lots of them, even.

 

I used to flip through Men's Health magazine when I was in my late teens and early twenties and thinking back on some of the things I read in those articles---they are totally playing up to the insecurities and fears of men. They encourage a kind of anguish for women. I feel, with your talk of conquering women, you're doing the same thing.

 

In short, as a man it's really nice having a woman in your life. It can really change you for the better. But...it's not everything.

[Camaro Guy]

Looking to bang as many women as possible is not a masculine trait. Maybe in the age of the Neanderthals it was. But not any more.

 

Self control (controlling one's primal urges) is a more masculine trait than trying to be a modern day Don Giovanni.

 

I always find it hilarious when guys talk as if they are offered sex on a platter. There is no nobility in turning down sex. There is nothing inherently moral in turning down sex. Unless you're in a relationship or want to avoid STDs.

 

How do I know? I was one of those guys, dude! I would rationalize and say that I wasn't "one of those guys". I also know lots of those types of guys.

 

I was never talking about banging as many women as possible. I was just talking about having as much sex as possible. There's a difference.

 

In my opinion, If you're a single man in his twenties, there is zero excuse why you should be having sex with either a willing partner in a long term relationship or with new women, you're wasting your life.

 

Either way, you should be going out there and getting relating to women (I'm talking to guys who aren't great with women). Talk to them. Tease them. See what they don't like. See what they do like.

 

They're not that different from us.

 

OP, I think what you're saying has validity and is complete bullroar all at the same time. It's the concern of a young man, in my opinion. A young man who NEEDS much from women.

 

In short, as a man it's really nice having a woman in your life. It can really change you for the better. But...it's not everything.

 

 

I don't NEED anything from women. Sex is nice. Kissing is nice. Snuggling is nice. However, I spent 25 years of my life without any female contact. I think I can throw that all away and start from where I was again.

 

I agree that it isn't everything.

[Gloria25]

The OP sounds like my last FWB (who was a dude in his early 40's) - who, upon finalization of his divorce decided he didn't wanna be "tied down" with me or "any" woman and wanted to play the field...

 

Ok, whatever...

 

I don't understand that mentality...I get it if you're hungry cuz you've been starved, but why do you feel you gotta check out every restaurant when you already are eating at one that is feeding your hunger ?

 

In other words, he went from a sexless and emotionally abusive marriage to me - who provided him attention, affection and great sex - but that wasn't enough for him. He felt now that he was "free" from the 'ball and chain' that what I was providing him with wasn't something he now wanted to be "tied down to"...ok, whatever...

 

I can guarantee that right now he's probably linked up with another wicked witch right now - like his ex-wife...That's how guys like that roll. They seem to enjoy abuse and run from anyone who dare treat them right.

[mike_89]

Looking to bang as many women as possible is not a masculine trait..

It is actually. Problem is girls talk, word will spread about you being a player and no girls with decent self esteem will want to build a relationship with you, because you're the guy that has had sex with at least 50 different girls and the only reason you're dating her is because you want to nail her.

[Camaro Guy]

The OP sounds like my last FWB (who was a dude in his early 40's) - who, upon finalization of his divorce decided he didn't wanna be "tied down" with me or "any" woman and wanted to play the field...

 

Ok, whatever...

 

I don't understand that mentality...I get it if you're hungry cuz you've been starved, but why do you feel you gotta check out every restaurant when you already are eating at one that is feeding your hunger ?

 

In other words, he went from a sexless and emotionally abusive marriage to me - who provided him attention, affection and great sex - but that wasn't enough for him. He felt now that he was "free" from the 'ball and chain' that what I was providing him with wasn't something he now wanted to be "tied down to"...ok, whatever...

 

I can guarantee that right now he's probably linked up with another wicked witch right now - like his ex-wife...That's how guys like that roll. They seem to enjoy abuse and run from anyone who dare treat them right.

 

 

Even before I started having sex regularly, I realized that I didn't want a relationship. Being in a relationship IS being tied down. If you want to get up and leave to a new city, you just can't do that. If you want to say "**** it, I'm going to Vegas with the boys" you just can't do that. A relationship keeps you bonded to a person for better or for worse. If you decide you want to go globetrotting for a few years, she isn't going to be ok with that.

 

I have no reason to be a in relationship. I'm not looking to get married. I'm not looking to "settle down". I just want to have fun. Why would you have sex with only one girl when you can amazing sex with a variety of different girls? It makes no sense to me.

 

I find it funny how you say that guys like girls who treat them terribly...because guys also say the same thing about girls!! Also, how do you know what this guy got into? For all you know, she could be a great woman.

[Grumpybutfun]

Do you actually enjoy women as human beings or are you just trying to feed your ego? "Getting pussy" is a vile way to put it, and you seem to be having sex as a numbers game which is childish and tells future potential partners you are a PUA idiot. Believe it or not, decent...healthy women won't find that a turn-on...but immature, dysfunctional train wrecks will and that doesn't make for a good relationship. You plan today for what you want tomorrow.

G

[TaraMaiden2]

OMG...^^ This ^^. a gazillion times, this.

 

You're a chump, and when you're ageing, getting old, lonely and can't bang chicks any more, you'll look back on all your pseudo-testosterone-fuelled garbage smart-talk and wonder just how you could have got it so wrong.

 

The objectification of women is an extremely unappealing trait, and frankly, not an attractive or desirable one.

Besides, sex is just one (minor) way to maintain your testosterone levels - which have seen a sharp and dramatic decline in recent years.

 

From the article, BTW:

 

This post concentrates on science, not objectification of women, relationships, ethics, or addictions … all important things to reflect on. I am an ethical, happily-married man with kids, and I value all of those things tremendously. But I also know that if I didn’t have a strong sex drive, my T levels would be lower.)

[Radu]

Hmmm, i think my personal opinions on the matter of love, sex and the overwhelming power the modern woman [up to 29 even more so] has over the modern man are well known.

 

However, as annoying as the fairer gender is ... they can also be absolutely charming and interesting.

I sometimes think that if they would be less problematic, we men would get bored much easier.

 

That being said, why do you feel the need to think of them as #'s, objects and body parts instead of women, why can't you accept that you want to be the perpetual 2 ships meeting in the night, sailing past each other ?

Is it really that hard to think of them as ... ppl ?

[Gloria25]

Even before I started having sex regularly, I realized that I didn't want a relationship. Being in a relationship IS being tied down. If you want to get up and leave to a new city, you just can't do that. If you want to say "**** it, I'm going to Vegas with the boys" you just can't do that. A relationship keeps you bonded to a person for better or for worse. If you decide you want to go globetrotting for a few years, she isn't going to be ok with that.

 

Then you're with the wrong woman...A healthy woman should be someone that would be cool with you having "guy" time and/or she'd be cool enough where you'd prefer surprising her with an impromptu weekend to Vegas rather than going "with the guys".

 

Then, ok, let's say you want to move to a new city. Why? Again, if you have a SO, yes, there's more logistics into making that decision (i.e. will she have to find a new job, career, etc), but still, couples move all the time for practical reasons (better schools, jobs, life, etc), so again, how is having "one" woman in your life going to make you tied to one place? But, I do understand that it is important to explore the world and get to know yourself before settling down - I just don't see how having sex with a bunch of woman is related to you exploring the world, moving around, and/or finding yourself.

 

I have no reason to be a in relationship. I'm not looking to get married. I'm not looking to "settle down". I just want to have fun. Why would you have sex with only one girl when you can amazing sex with a variety of different girls? It makes no sense to me.

 

Well again, what's the difference here? Puzzzzy is puzzzzy...Yes, some girls might do other things that other girls do and so what? My thing is, if you're with "one" chick and she does all that, then what more do you need? Just to "see" what's out there? Sounds immature to me. Paul Newman said about his beautiful wife, Joan Woodward, 'Why go out for hamburger if I have steak at home?'

 

Yes, I believe in dating around before you settle down - but IMO, that does not equate "sleeping" around. Dating around is necessary so you can figure out what you want in a mate, so the day you decide to "settle down" you know yourself and what you want/need in a good woman cuz you are experienced and not desperate.

 

Now, if you don't have sex while you're doing all this dating, will it affect your ability to know yourself sexually and/or pick someone who is compatible sexually? Depends. I know of people married and/or single in their 40's who suck at sex and they've "been around". Just cuz someone is sexually active doesn't mean they know what they're doing and/or are sexual/passionate/etc. For a lot of people, all the "sex" they've been having with more than once person consisted of some guy crawling between their legs and pumping away till he came and they "think" that is sex

 

I find it funny how you say that guys like girls who treat them terribly...because guys also say the same thing about girls!! Also, how do you know what this guy got into? For all you know, she could be a great woman.

 

When it came to my FWB, I believed what he said about her. He had no reason to "run a game" on me to get me to have sex with him. When I met him on OLD, his profile said he was married - so I knew that upfront. But, after we started sleeping together is when he started whinning about her. I think he was ready to leave her, but sorta was whinning to me in search of some validation of his decision to do what he did.

 

And yea, I checked out her Facebook and I'm not stupid, you can learn a lot about people from the crap they put on there and yep, ice cold manhating byach? Check....

 

Why do I believe that he'd go back to a woman like her? Cuz, like most people coming out from failed RLs and/or marriages, they don't take time to see what "their" role is in being married to/involved with that person (i.e. Captain Save a Ho), so they take their baggage into the next RL.

 

He jumped from her to me, divorced, and never sought counseling and/or really told me if he learned anything about himself from all of this. And yes, before him, I've seen it over and over...the guy/gal goes for the bad guy/gal and when they meet someone who means any good for them, they are turned off.

 

IMO, his thing was he wanted to be "Captain Save a Ho" - like most men do. And since I didn't need to be saved, he didn't feel useful with me. All he would talk about is how she was a pooor little thing and he just wanted to help her....oh, cry me a freakin' river already:rolleyes:

 

My fav podcaster, again, said something I need to remember...When you see certain people together, while you may think they are not right for each other, THEY ARE. Couples are like salt and pepper shakers. As sick as their situation may be, they are together for a reason.

 

Like a guy with a fatty? He may have intimacy issues and sought out a fatty so one day when she says she doesn't wanna have sex anymore, he could care less cuz now pressure is off of him to have sex and he can go to porn. So, while you may think he's a loser for being with a fatty? Nope, he's "safe" and that's what he wants.

 

And her? Ok, you may wonder why she's ok with a guy who doesn't wanna have sex with her? She may be lazy, has hangups about men, victim of sexual abuse, etc. So, she found someone who she can play "roommate I just have sex with when I want to get pregnant" game too.

 

So there, you go "salt and pepper shakers"...

 

Problem with my FWB is, while he wanted to play Captain Save a Ho, it got old after a while - like most dysfunctional "salt/pepper shakers" and he wanted out. But, again, cuz he didn't address why he picked his "pepper" shaker, he's probably gonna wind up back again in the same "salt/pepper shaker" paring he had with his ex...So, he can go and sleep around all he wants - but I don't see how that's gonna make him learn/experience anything about women and/or himself that he probably needed to get through counseling.

[Keenly]

Why am I going to listen to some one that's telling me I'm wasting my life because I don't want to live the same way they live?

 

 

Anyone who insists there way is the right way instantly discredits themselves.

[Rejected Rosebud]

I always find it hilarious when guys talk as if they are offered sex on a platter. There is no nobility in turning down sex. There is nothing inherently moral in turning down sex.

Who says there is some nobility or morality in turning down sex, maybe some people just think being discerning and not acting like a compuslive overeater at an all you can eat buffet is more their style!! Personally I would be 100% disinterested in a guy who looks at BANGING the way you do!! :laugh: But do what works for you I am just saying it is not really "THE way" for most.

[elaine567]

This is a guy who up till June 2015 was a 25 yo virgin.

 

NOW, he is the kid who just got the keys to the sweetie store.

He is experiencing a sugar rush.

[Rejected Rosebud]

This is a guy who up till June 2015 was a 25 yo virgin.

 

NOW, he is the kid who just got the keys to the sweetie store.

He is experiencing a sugar rush.

:sick: So very not sexy to me.

[carhill]

OP, I did note that unambiguous and respectful sexual desire did improve results from a more circumspect approach where respect toppled too much of the 'primal' part. Women apparently like the primal part where they otherwise found the man attractive since it sent the unambiguous message that they were sexually attractive to the man and had him in that way. IME, the key was balancing respect and being primal. Tip too far one way or another and one misses the midpoint, or largest concentration of, women in their demographic.

 

With this apparently newfound success, I'll offer one tidbit of advice relevant to popularity - Be careful of how you treat people on your way up, for you shall inevitably encounter them on your way down. Life, generally, is not linear. It ebbs and flows and people are always people, first. Good luck.

[BronzeAgeJaeger217]

how do you practice flirting and teasing girls, is it recommended to read books on it?

[Camaro Guy]

Hmmm, i think my personal opinions on the matter of love, sex and the overwhelming power the modern woman [up to 29 even more so] has over the modern man are well known.

 

However, as annoying as the fairer gender is ... they can also be absolutely charming and interesting.

I sometimes think that if they would be less problematic, we men would get bored much easier.

 

That being said, why do you feel the need to think of them as #'s, objects and body parts instead of women, why can't you accept that you want to be the perpetual 2 ships meeting in the night, sailing past each other ?

Is it really that hard to think of them as ... ppl ?

 

 

But that's what makes it so fun, that women are simultaneously different yet similar to us. I don't think of it as a numbers game but the fact that I am having sex with different women is enjoyable.

 

I truly think that the problem with a lot of men now a days is too much thinking, not enough reaction. I think, I think, I think, I think, I think she won't like me, I think this, I think that. When you get too caught up in thinking, you restrain yourself from what matters the most. Will you approach that girl or will you think she is out of your league? I used to be a victim to this too.

 

A group of friends and I were out this Saturday at an outside bar party. It was a fun event, we were just enjoying the vibe. One of my friends asked me how I was able to get success with women and how he could do the same. He had a girlfriend that recently broke up with him and he felt like she was very heavy-handed in the relationship. I was like dude...get going! Just get going. You'll encounter so much opportunity and growth along the way. You'll figure it out when you get better at it.

 

Later on, a stunning brunette chick came to our table out of the blue. She introduced herself and she immediately turned to my friend. They were talking and I saw chemistry. Then, he told me he was going to go get a beer. I was like wtf... Then she was with me. We were talking a bit and then she walked away. He came back and asked where she went. I told him she was only sticking around because he was here. "She came to talk to you, not me." She then came a second time to our table. They talked again. She mirrored his body language, flipped her hair, teased him, etc. I thought he was going to get her number or take her home. He did none of it. I was shocked. We never saw her again. I was rooting for him. He simply did not believe this girl was into him like that. I was so downhearted that he didn't go for it. She was clearly into him.

 

This same guy, about a year and a half ago was involved in a devastating motorcycle accident. I was standing over his hospital bed and he looked up at me and said "Life is so fragile. I'll never take it for granted again. If I get out of this in one piece, I will live it to the fullest." Then he asked me to hold him to it. So I did. I brought him back to that same mental state he was in and I told him "Enough. It's time to have some fun."

 

That's how I feel. After a lifetime of depression and misery I said it's time to have some fun. That's why I don't take any of this for granted. I cherish the women who have sex with me. I cherish the fact that this can happen. I cherish the fact that I'm making up for lost time that I didn't experience in high school and college. I cherish the fact that I got the nerve to approach and talk to women. I don't take any of it for granted.

 

We think we have all the time in the world. We don't we can go at any minute. I want to live my life how I want to live it. I don't want to be on my deathbed looking back on my life knowing I could have done something and that I could have done it. That would be the worst feeling in the world and it would all happen right before you die.

 

:sick: So very not sexy to me.

 

Yeah, I understand that virginity in older men is not a sexy trait. That's why I made it a duty to get as much experience in this area as soon as possible.

Edited July 26, 2015 by Camaro Guy

[Noideanow]

It really just shocks me how many guys think that once they get the car, the job, the clothes, or whatever, women will come flocking. They might, but it's certainly for all the wrong reasons. We already have everything we need to succeed with women inside of us. Our masculine core. Many men have fallen out of touch with this due to bull**** societal conditioning, bad food, or a miserable combination of the two.

 

Namely, I'm talking about testosterone. It's the one thing that separates us from females. It allows us to take risks. Be brave. Gain muscle. Be aggressive. And lots of other things. I have a feeling a lot of guys here are suffering from low t. It makes you feel not like a man and it really just makes you feel like a dead corpse. Not fun.

 

Having sex boosts testosterone. I feel so good when I'm just making a woman convulse in deep pleasure and she's just grabbing me for dear life. I didn't get laid for the past 4 days, when I have been having sex virtually every day for the past 3 weeks. One of the girls I'm having sex with is out of town, the other one is on her period, and the other one just lost her grandmother. I could have gone out and pulled a girl and had the sexy time with her but I said no. I'm gonna ride this and see what it can do for me.

 

I started to get agitated and extremely aggressive on the second day. I felt more...masculine. But I knew how to channel it. If you have low testosterone, do these things: work out with heavy weights, sleep well, have a good, clean diet, and cut fat. Fat is an inhibitor of testosterone. The more fat you have, the less testosterone you will have.

 

We men have two heads. We often let the "rational" head get in the way. Take your rational head out of the way and let the other one do the "thinking". If you feel that a girl makes you "tingly", by all means step to her. But you have to do it RIGHT.

 

I also don't masturbate or look at porn at all, so I have no sexual release whatsoever. When you put yourself on those terms, you have no choice to get laid or else you will go insane. I also have a feeling many men on here like masturbating to porn. Cut it out. Cut it all out. You have no reason to masturbate to porn unless you are having sex. Even then, you still have no reason.

 

Don't think that by acting out on your primal desires, you will offend girls. No. Women love raunchy, hot, dirty sex and they wanted it yesterday. They're just good at hiding it. If you think a girl is a "slut" for having sex, you will never make her feel free enough to unleash that side of her around you.

 

I also truly feel that many men get or want to get a girlfriend out of desperation. They want out of the dating game. They just want a girl to accept them as they are even though they aren't really that fun to be around. Even though they don't get a girl's motor going. They just want a cool, hot girlfriend even though they have done nothing do deserve it. They can't take the pain and they want out.

 

I laugh at guys like these because I used to be that guy. I know that if I want a cool, hot girlfriend, I'm going to have to approach and get rejected and get torn to pieces. Over and over and over again. Few of us get that lucky on the first try.

 

If you're in your twenties, there is no reason why you shouldn't be having sex and meeting new women. If you aren't, you are wasting your time and I feel deeply sorry for you. Step up, nut up, and do it. Scared of meeting women? I was too. I still am! But I push through that fear because I know that the possibility of me getting laid is higher if I approach! You don't approach out of fear of rejection because you feel your little ego can't take it. Guess what? Mine can't either. But I still do it.

 

Stop doing disservice to your ancestors guys. Approach women with masculine intent like you mean it. When you deprive yourself of any sexual stimulation, you'll be surprised what you can do.

 

I see this as a fase your in, gaining confidence and exploring life, i imagine your are Young and you have a lot to live and learn, but i like your optimism and that you Wont settle for anything less than what you Want, and if the girls know your just having fun you Will find likeminded at the time and hopefully no broken hearts here:cool: the thing with no porn and so on makes you Seem like a not so cheap man:cool: