Love/Pedestal to Complete Crash and Burn -Final Story

[loveweary11]

I think I said this somewhere before, if it matters at all, but this is quite true in a lot of places - particularly dense metro areas. And even the 'good' girls. I even get a lot of it in Chicago forex, which I assume is more laid back than NY - women who expect to be profoundly impressed sexually right from the get-go. In other words, you better knock it out early or else.

 

Exactly. If I want the top tier (still love this phrase... ha ha ha) women, I have to be top tier too.

 

All the top women under 30 expect to be wowed right away.

 

If I don't do it, I don't get them.

 

This is real life.

 

Sorry. Kinda drunk. Met a super hot Israeli chick tonight in a bar.She got me wasted. and then went for drinks with yoga(never backsliding... just was drinks... done with her)

[jen1447]

What is it with Israeli women? To tie this into the vagina thread, I've got an Israeli girlfriend who has the hands-down most amazingly beautiful va-jay I've ever seen (and felt and tasted lol).

[Robert Z]

I'm so grossed out by her it's not even funny. Now completely disengaged, emotionally.

 

Wow! That's quite a turnaround. Bad-news bear to be sure.

[RedRobin]

You see what you want to see, OP, because good looks and dating women young enough to be your daughter is more important than a life without drama.

 

 

I don't feel sorry for you. You are old enough to know better.

[Phoe]

Exactly. If I want the top tier (still love this phrase... ha ha ha) women, I have to be top tier too.

 

All the top women under 30 expect to be wowed right away.

 

If I don't do it, I don't get them.

 

This is real life.

 

Sorry. Kinda drunk. Met a super hot Israeli chick tonight in a bar.She got me wasted. and then went for drinks with yoga(never backsliding... just was drinks... done with her)

 

 

Ok, so you aim to "wow" them.... that does NOT have to mean sexually. It simply means as a person. Wow them as a person.

 

You know what wows me? Having an amazing connection with someone. I am NOT wowed by a man I've only just met trying to bone me on the 1st date. No.

 

Why do you have drinks with a girl that you are done with and disgusted by? People that I am done with and disgusted by never see my face again... let alone have drinks!

 

Oh LW, what are we going to do with you!?

[S_A]

Met a super hot Israeli chick tonight

 

What is it with Israeli women?

 

I'm not Jewish/Israeli (so no bias)... They are extremely hot and their beauty underrated by mainstream society. Maybe it's just me though... They have certain features that are extremely appealing to my eye.

[Robert Z]

You see what you want to see, OP, because good looks and dating women young enough to be your daughter is more important than a life without drama.

 

So where do you get the notion that marrying an older woman means no drama? Show me that universe and I'm there.

 

 

I find that there is often less drama with younger women because they don't have so much baggage.

[serial muse]

Doesn't work that way in real life in my experience.

 

I have to "put out" by the first or second date to keep a chick around.

 

They're all into immediate sex and it better be good, or you're gone.

 

That's the world we live in.

 

If this is true, then maybe this is the type of girl you shouldn't keep dating?

[serial muse]

So where do you get the notion that marrying an older woman means no drama? Show me that universe and I'm there.

 

 

I find that there is often less drama with younger women because they don't have so much baggage.

 

I think that if one enjoys drama, one will find it wherever one looks for it: older women, older men, younger women, younger men. Drama is everywhere and baggage isn't exclusive to any age...or gender. I think that's actually part of LW's issue with his people-picker.

 

And in a more general sense, when people complain about how a particular group has more baggage, etc., and is more drama-prone, the truth usually comes out precisely as one would expect - the problem isn't with those other people.

 

One finds what one looks for.

Edited August 11, 2015 by serial muse

[loveweary11]

What is it with Israeli women? To tie this into the vagina thread, I've got an Israeli girlfriend who has the hands-down most amazingly beautiful va-jay I've ever seen (and felt and tasted lol).

 

I think they have an interesting power to them as well. Culturally, they are strong and not fearful. Combine that with the perfect body/face on this one, smokey eyes and black hair and damn!

 

This one approached me at a bar I was killing some time at.

 

That was pretty cool. Was nose down in my tablet and she came over. Nothing like having the hottest one in the whole place approach you. Quite a way to get past yoga.

 

So I'm showing her around Manhattan in the next day or two. Was not an instant hook up, since she's not American/local. Quite refreshing.

 

I am finding her more alluring since she has kept some mystery there.

 

I think I sealed the deal by knowing Israel well (Ive been there) and recognizing Hebrew. That went a long way.

[loveweary11]

If this is true, then maybe this is the type of girl you shouldn't keep dating?

 

It's the only type there are in urban areas.

 

Maybe 20% are old fashioned. The majority want to hook up instantly.

[loveweary11]

Ok, so you aim to "wow" them.... that does NOT have to mean sexually. It simply means as a person. Wow them as a person.

 

You know what wows me? Having an amazing connection with someone. I am NOT wowed by a man I've only just met trying to bone me on the 1st date. No.

 

Why do you have drinks with a girl that you are done with and disgusted by? People that I am done with and disgusted by never see my face again... let alone have drinks!

 

Oh LW, what are we going to do with you!?

 

That's you. You're a very unique, great person. A diamond among rocks.

 

Out there in the real world of dirty rocks is where I'm dating. It is what it is. I can't control who I meet. I meet them and keep or discard them.

 

Yoga, who I'm disgusted with as a person and have no interest in anything real with due to her morals/personality, is still ridiculously hot. Our lives are also a bit intertwined until about September. I still have to see her here and there until then.

 

So... she just got dropped into that evil category all women despise. Basically, I'll just use her for sex as she uses everyone else. Harsh, I know, but pretty much on par for how she treats others/me. I've essentially turned the tables on her.

 

I'm sure I'll catch a lot of heat on here for that, but she wants to do that too. Again, exactly as Writergal predicted. She went for FWB. I'll do that for a bit until someone else works out.

 

The next month is going to sound super crazy as my "rock pile" (looking for diamonds) is huge.. i have the following:

 

1) Yoga fwb (disqualified... a rock)

2) Interracial really white acting black chick with a heart of gold, but stuck in the local area

3) Another girl from last summer who I'm going out on more dates with

4) Israeli chick... temporary, obviously

5) Asian chick I'm just getting to know...college student

6) Second asian chick who has a little too expensive of taste

7) Some random POF ones i just don't have the free time for and need to cancel with

 

The rock pile is ridiculous. I hope there is a diamond hidden in here.

[loveweary11]

You see what you want to see, OP, because good looks and dating women young enough to be your daughter is more important than a life without drama.

 

 

I don't feel sorry for you. You are old enough to know better.

 

See? This type of comment is exactly why I don't date anyone my own age.

 

I'm on Earth to have a good time savoring life.

 

I'm not here looking for people to feel sorry for me.

 

Not every younger woman is loaded with drama. There are plenty of calm, intelligent people of all ages.

 

Yoga just wasn't one of them.

 

(next)

[Heatherknows]

That's you. You're a very unique, great person. A diamond among rocks.

 

Out there in the real world of dirty rocks is where I'm dating. It is what it is. I can't control who I meet. I meet them and keep or discard them.

 

Yoga, who I'm disgusted with as a person and have no interest in anything real with due to her morals/personality, is still ridiculously hot. Our lives are also a bit intertwined until about September. I still have to see her here and there until then.

 

So... she just got dropped into that evil category all women despise. Basically, I'll just use her for sex as she uses everyone else. Harsh, I know, but pretty much on par for how she treats others/me. I've essentially turned the tables on her.

 

I'm sure I'll catch a lot of heat on here for that, but she wants to do that too. Again, exactly as Writergal predicted. She went for FWB. I'll do that for a bit until someone else works out.

 

The next month is going to sound super crazy as my "rock pile" (looking for diamonds) is huge.. i have the following:

 

1) Yoga fwb (disqualified... a rock)

2) Interracial really white acting black chick with a heart of gold, but stuck in the local area

3) Another girl from last summer who I'm going out on more dates with

4) Israeli chick... temporary, obviously

5) Asian chick I'm just getting to know...college student

6) Second asian chick who has a little too expensive of taste

7) Some random POF ones i just don't have the free time for and need to cancel with

 

The rock pile is ridiculous. I hope there is a diamond hidden in here.

 

I'm married, just celebrated my 14 year anniversary. IMHO chemistry is probably the first thing that happens. You meet someone and you're attracted to them. The conversation flows and you find out if you have similar values. I think you know right away because you feel this connection that might be hard to describe but nice that it's there.

[Rejected Rosebud]

The more I read the more I feel like your whole approach to dating and women in your life is just convoluted. Your pile of rocks isn't likely to produce any diamonds but it's not because of women, living in NYC, the hookup culture, or any of that but because of how you are looking at everything. :(

[Got it]

I revealed the issues in order of lest problematic to most problematic. They were in perfect order.

 

The phone thing is what freed me from her spell.

 

I simply can't date people I'm not physically attracted to.

 

Putting it crassly and bluntly, I won't get a boner and sex will suck for them.,

 

Okay, then your narration didn't explain that so it read as if you put it in order of what was most forefront on your brain.

 

And the stealing of the phone was it? Not the drug use, the dependency and the self entitlement . . . ???

 

And maybe getting to know a personality will help you be attracted to someone. That, to me at least, is a major piece. You may be arm candy but less than interesting personality leaves me cold.

 

And as you have seen, your horizons have widen so much you will allow a bit of a "gut" so the skies the limit my friend.

[jen1447]

I think they have an interesting power to them as well. Culturally, they are strong and not fearful. Combine that with the perfect body/face on this one, smokey eyes and black hair and damn!

 

If you manage to get to her special place and that black hair is there too ....OMG, if it's nicely trimmed and manicured and soft and conditioned, that contrast against the white skin is insanely erotic. (Does she have fair skin?)

 

[S_A]

That was pretty cool. Was nose down in my tablet and she came over.

 

Dude... I don't know what it is.... but stuff like this works. Like if you're at a place that will have some in-n-out traffic and you're focused and working on your tablet or notebook, the women tend to notice you more. Combine that with a button down shirt and rolled up sleeves. It's like you're working, but you're casual.

 

Say whatever you want, but it WORKS!

 

BTW, grats with the Israeli girl. The dark haired ones are hot, but there are a lot of light-haired ones that are very hot, too. These girls tend to have very strong and tough personalities which can keep some guys away, but I think you being a New Yorker obviously helps you in dealing with these types of people. Have fun

[Kamille]

 

 

 

 

Greed: Expects everyone else to pay for everything for her. Tries to skip out on $$ she owes.

 

 

 

Weren't you the guy who was looking for a woman who offered to pay for someone's expenses as long as she was a free spirit who would follow you on a boat adventure?

 

So, you offered to pay for everything and attracted someone who expects others to pay for everything. And you're surprised because...?

[xxoo]

The rock pile is ridiculous. I hope there is a diamond hidden in here.

 

Describe a diamond.

[S_A]

Describe a diamond.

 

A girl that does Yoga and likes to have random photos taken of her by Arabs?

 

I'm JK

[loveweary11]

If you manage to get to her special place and that black hair is there too ....OMG, if it's nicely trimmed and manicured and soft and conditioned, that contrast against the white skin is insanely erotic. (Does she have fair skin?)

 

 

I am hoping....

 

I'm supposed to show her around soon. Just don't have a set date yet. We'll see what happens...

[loveweary11]

Okay, then your narration didn't explain that so it read as if you put it in order of what was most forefront on your brain.

 

And the stealing of the phone was it? Not the drug use, the dependency and the self entitlement . . . ???

 

And maybe getting to know a personality will help you be attracted to someone. That, to me at least, is a major piece. You may be arm candy but less than interesting personality leaves me cold.

 

And as you have seen, your horizons have widen so much you will allow a bit of a "gut" so the skies the limit my friend.

 

 

 

Yes. The phone was it.

 

Drug use, dependency and self entitlement can be corrected and could be someone who isn't on the right path.

 

Stealing from people is a character flaw that shows someone is rotten to the core.

 

Of course, these are my personal criteria.

[S_A]

Loveweary, how old is she? Ballpark.

[loveweary11]

Dude... I don't know what it is.... but stuff like this works. Like if you're at a place that will have some in-n-out traffic and you're focused and working on your tablet or notebook, the women tend to notice you more. Combine that with a button down shirt and rolled up sleeves. It's like you're working, but you're casual.

 

Say whatever you want, but it WORKS!

 

BTW, grats with the Israeli girl. The dark haired ones are hot, but there are a lot of light-haired ones that are very hot, too. These girls tend to have very strong and tough personalities which can keep some guys away, but I think you being a New Yorker obviously helps you in dealing with these types of people. Have fun

 

Funny thing... it was laundry day. I was in shorts, a fitted tee and Supra sneakers.

 

Thanks for your posts. Always fun and the one about yoga and the Arabs had me dead laughing. ha ha ha