Can anyone here think of any women who are 25+, or 30+ and never had a boyfriend

[BronzeAgeJaeger217]

are a virgin, etc.? Because it's quite common in this forum and many other forums, to hear of many guys, men, who are 25+, or 30+ years of age that are still single and never had a girlfriend before, a virgin, etc.

 

 

To hear of so many guys, men that are still single, alone, involuntary celibate, can be used to debate, argue whether or not if women truly have it easier in the dating/mating game, or does anybody know of many women out there who are still single, can't get dates or a boyfriend to save their life?

 

 

Maybe women keep it on the DL, are less vocal about it than men are, I know one prime example of a woman was Susan Boyle, but cases like her are very rare for a woman, meanwhile it's not unheard of for men to have never had a girlfriend even in their 40's or 50's, I have heard from some dating coaches/gurus for men.

 

 

I heard on one other post in this forum yesterday, from a woman who said she knows of 2 women over 40 who are still a virgin and never had a boyfriend, I was very shocked to hear that, mainly because it's almost unheard of for women to be like that but it is not unheard of, not uncommon to hear of men like that.

Edited August 12, 2015 by BronzeAgeJaeger217

[DJOkawari]

I come from a particularly chaste portion of society and so I know a bunch of 25+ y/o ladies who have never had a bf. Right around that age or a bit past that they get married. A minority make it to 30 before getting married. Largely they are just waiting to finish up professional degrees before thinking of a man. In fact, about two-thirds of the men getting married in situations like this have had a gf or two prior - some times it is an issue. So, it is kinda reversed from the situation you're describing.

 

I don't particularly agree with the process but the gals and guy involved seem to enjoy it enough.

 

And yes, this happens in the good 'ol USA.

 

Aside from this really huge number of people I know culturally, yeah, I know a few girls who are the same - never having a BF. But I would say no matter who they are, they've been propositioned sexually or at least been on dates a few times. I imagine the guys you're thinking of haven't.

 

EDIT: Virgins on the other hand are fairly easy to find, I think. Lots of girls have BFs and remain virgins.

Edited August 12, 2015 by DJOkawari

[Els]

Sure, a few of my friends are in their mid-late 20s and have never had a bf.

 

But I'm not sure why I bother repeating this all the time when the argument that always comes after it is "Well they probably just rejected all the guys who asked them out!" Sure they can 'get a boyfriend to save their life', but similarly the guys in the OP can 'get a girlfriend to save their life' as well. Just not the girlfriend they want.

[BronzeAgeJaeger217]

Sure, a few of my friends are in their mid-late 20s and have never had a bf.

 

But I'm not sure why I bother repeating this all the time when the argument that always comes after it is "Well they probably just rejected all the guys who asked them out!" Sure they can 'get a boyfriend to save their life', but similarly the guys in the OP can 'get a girlfriend to save their life' as well. Just not the girlfriend they want.

I guess women just complain about it less

[guest569]

Me

.......well I was.

[lollipopspot]

Women as a rule do not feel the same entitlement to men's bodies that men in general feel towards women's.

 

This is why there is a prostitution industry that is virtually all men buying women's bodies, often at great harm to women being used or trafficked. And, ever hear of a female Elliot Rodger?

 

In part because women don't feel that entitlement to have sex with and access to male bodies, they don't complain about it as much.

[LookAtThisPOst]

The one thing that I've noticed lately in postings, is how some men even

struggle with rejection, blown off, game playing, etc even while in COLLEGE.

 

This always blew my mind because the ONE place in life where one is in a high quantity of available women IS in college. So you have 4 years of easier times. At least this was true in the earlier days of college.

 

This was THE time to meet someone's future spouse. Seen it all the time at my college. They would esp. schedule their weddings shortly after their graduations.

 

 

 

are a virgin, etc.? Because it's quite common in this forum and many other forums, to hear of many guys, men, who are 25+, or 30+ years of age that are still single and never had a girlfriend before, a virgin, etc.

 

 

To hear of so many guys, men that are still single, alone, involuntary celibate, can be used to debate, argue whether or not if women truly have it easier in the dating/mating game, or does anybody know of many women out there who are still single, can't get dates or a boyfriend to save their life?

 

 

Maybe women keep it on the DL, are less vocal about it than men are, I know one prime example of a woman was Susan Boyle, but cases like her are very rare for a woman, meanwhile it's not unheard of for men to have never had a girlfriend even in their 40's or 50's, I have heard from some dating coaches/gurus for men.

 

 

I heard on one other post in this forum yesterday, from a woman who said she knows of 2 women over 40 who are still a virgin and never had a boyfriend, I was very shocked to hear that, mainly because it's almost unheard of for women to be like that but it is not unheard of, not uncommon to hear of men like that.

[LookAtThisPOst]

 

EDIT: Virgins on the other hand are fairly easy to find, I think. Lots of girls have BFs and remain virgins.

 

Chances are either they lying and just giving BJs to their boyfriends.

[guest569]

Chances are either they lying and just giving BJs to their boyfriends.

 

Thats right, you accused me of being a liar too. I dont know why it is so hard to believe.

[xxoo]

I guess women just complain about it less

 

Their complaints may be different, as they may not be primarily seeking sex and boyfriends. They maybe seeking a husband who shares their values.

[youdunsay]

me? right here. alright back to reading.

[No Limit]

Me in 5 1/2 (or 10 1/2) years, although I'm going to do something about the virginity-part until then.

[carhill]

Can anyone here think of any women who are 25+, or 30+ and never had a boyfriend

 

By the time I was age 25, I encountered virtually no single women at all. Most got married from age 18-25. A few earlier. Most of my friends were married and either had toddlers or young children by age 25. I wouldn't encounter any significant amount of single (divorced) women until the first round of divorces in my early 30's.

 

By the time I was 30 I only knew one lady, a former classmate, who wasn't married yet, though she had discussed a number of boyfriends. Nice lady, daughter of a cop. Had some of the similar religious ideals that I did. Still, not single. She managed the bank I went to and we'd have lunch once a month or more often for a few years. That was the closest I came to a 'never had a boyfriend'.

[GravityMan]

It depends on where you live and the culture you hang around. In some parts of the US and other countries, women and men 25+ who've never had a partner are pretty common. In many other parts of the US and world, being a virgin and/or never having a relationship by age 25 are extremely rare.

 

This is one of those questions where it's very easy for a person to project their observations and experiences onto the entire planet, when it's really just localized within their own little bubble.

[Shining One]

are a virgin, etc.? Because it's quite common in this forum and many other forums, to hear of many guys, men, who are 25+, or 30+ years of age that are still single and never had a girlfriend before, a virgin, etc.

OP, you're going to find less women who have never had boyfriends than men who have never had girlfriends. Women (in general) have more access to dates which are prerequisites to relationships. Women can opt for passive (waiting to be approached) or active (approaching men directly) dating. By comparison, few men can be successful with passive dating. The higher number of opportunities has a higher chance of leading to a relationship.

 

As for sex, it's generally much easier for a women to get sex than it is for a man. Women are less likely to complain about it due to the significant differences in levels of effort. Using myself as an example, I have wined and dined women over quite a few dates and failed to escalate things to the bedroom. I put in a lot of effort and money and failed, so it was rather frustrating. I've had two women ask me to sleep with them over text. I declined one of them. Yes, she was rejected, but her level of effort was insignificant compared to my example with the same end goal.

Sure, a few of my friends are in their mid-late 20s and have never had a bf.

 

But I'm not sure why I bother repeating this all the time when the argument that always comes after it is "Well they probably just rejected all the guys who asked them out!" Sure they can 'get a boyfriend to save their life', but similarly the guys in the OP can 'get a girlfriend to save their life' as well. Just not the girlfriend they want.

This is a valid point. However, we need to factor in opportunities provided. There's a difference between the following:

• Someone who rejects 50 people and chooses to approach no one.
  
• Someone who approaches 50 people and is rejected by all of them. No one approaches this person.
  

One is single by choice while the other is not.

Women as a rule do not feel the same entitlement to men's bodies that men in general feel towards women's.

 

This is why there is a prostitution industry that is virtually all men buying women's bodies, often at great harm to women being used or trafficked. And, ever hear of a female Elliot Rodger?

 

In part because women don't feel that entitlement to have sex with and access to male bodies, they don't complain about it as much.

Your example is not what I would consider entitlement. Those men want sex from women and those women want money. It's a trade. Entitlement would be:

• I want sex but I should not have to do anything for it.
  
• I want money but I should not have to do anything for it.
  

It depends on where you live and the culture you hang around. In some parts of the US and other countries, women and men 25+ who've never had a partner are pretty common. In many other parts of the US and world, being a virgin and/or never having a relationship by age 25 are extremely rare.

 

This is one of those questions where it's very easy for a person to project their observations and experiences onto the entire planet, when it's really just localized within their own little bubble.

Location and culture are important. In my culture (which I do not follow) it is typical of women to not date at all. One day they are single, the next day they are married. However, this typically happens at a young age (early twenties).

[LookAtThisPOst]

By the time I was age 25, I encountered virtually no single women at all. Most got married from age 18-25. A few earlier. Most of my friends were married and either had toddlers or young children by age 25. I wouldn't encounter any significant amount of single (divorced) women until the first round of divorces in my early 30's..

 

Sounds like what happened to me when I graduated and came home from college in my mid-20s.

 

I figured I had a second chance by taking a few supplemental courses at the local community college, however, I couldn't make any headway with the women there as they were already married or at LEAST engaged to whomever prom date they had in high school.

 

Kind of sad as this area is known for getting married and popping out babies. Women here are under the impression that their HS sweet hearts are their ONLY options. Kind of sad.

[GemmaUK]

Sounds like what happened to me when I graduated and came home from college in my mid-20s.

 

I figured I had a second chance by taking a few supplemental courses at the local community college, however, I couldn't make any headway with the women there as they were already married or at LEAST engaged to whomever prom date they had in high school.

 

Kind of sad as this area is known for getting married and popping out babies. Women here are under the impression that their HS sweet hearts are their ONLY options. Kind of sad.

 

 

What happened in college years though? Prime time and all that as you have said?

 

Maybe these you speak of fell in love and it lasted with their HS sweethearts because they actually were good guys and good men. As were the women.

Why is that sad?

 

Men and women want families in general or a strong bond and familarity and compatibility at least.

 

I take it you want something different entirely?

What is it that you actually want LATP?

[GemmaUK]

I know two women in their mid forties who have never had a bf and are virgins..there's no 'waiting until marriage' for them and they are not religious at all.

 

 

They just haven't had a bf yet.

Are they bitter like the guys on here? Hell no! They have busier and better social lives than I do! Lol!

[MissBee]

are a virgin, etc.? Because it's quite common in this forum and many other forums, to hear of many guys, men, who are 25+, or 30+ years of age that are still single and never had a girlfriend before, a virgin, etc.

 

 

To hear of so many guys, men that are still single, alone, involuntary celibate, can be used to debate, argue whether or not if women truly have it easier in the dating/mating game, or does anybody know of many women out there who are still single, can't get dates or a boyfriend to save their life?

 

 

Maybe women keep it on the DL, are less vocal about it than men are, I know one prime example of a woman was Susan Boyle, but cases like her are very rare for a woman, meanwhile it's not unheard of for men to have never had a girlfriend even in their 40's or 50's, I have heard from some dating coaches/gurus for men.

 

 

I heard on one other post in this forum yesterday, from a woman who said she knows of 2 women over 40 who are still a virgin and never had a boyfriend, I was very shocked to hear that, mainly because it's almost unheard of for women to be like that but it is not unheard of, not uncommon to hear of men like that.

 

I have a friend who is 25 going on 26 who's never had a bf, is a virgin, and up until some months ago had never been kissed. My sister is 25, she has had a boyfriend, in high school, but not since. She's not a virgin, but she's not had sex since high school.

 

Another friend of mine is 27 and she just lost her virginity last year and she hasn't ever had a real boyfriend. This woman btw is freakin' gorgeous, not socially awkward or anything and in fact I think most people would have been shocked to know she was a virgin.

 

I however in real life don't know any men in this category.

[Shining One]

They just haven't had a bf yet.

Are they bitter like the guys on here? Hell no! They have busier and better social lives than I do! Lol!

If you don't mind my asking, have they actively sought men? Or have they just chosen to focus on other things in their lives?

 

My best friend hasn't had many girlfriends. All of the ones he's had (three to my knowledge) practically fell on his lap. He's never pursued women in his life. Despite being single for vast majority of his adult life, he's never been bitter about it (unlike me, on occasion).

[GunslingerRoland]

My Sister-In-Law didn't have her first boyfriend until she was about 27. I don't know the details of her sex life but I'm pretty sure she was a virgin then.

 

She's engaged now, so it's all worked out for her.

[BronzeAgeJaeger217]

I know two women in their mid forties who have never had a bf and are virgins..there's no 'waiting until marriage' for them and they are not religious at all.

 

 

They just haven't had a bf yet.

Are they bitter like the guys on here? Hell no! They have busier and better social lives than I do! Lol!

Probably because men get judged on this differently than women do

[BronzeAgeJaeger217]

If you don't mind my asking, have they actively sought men? Or have they just chosen to focus on other things in their lives?

 

My best friend hasn't had many girlfriends. All of the ones he's had (three to my knowledge) practically fell on his lap. He's never pursued women in his life. Despite being single for vast majority of his adult life, he's never been bitter about it (unlike me, on occasion).

 

So basically his girlfriends asked him out, approached him, actively pursued him first?

[lino]

Have never met a woman who was still boyfriendless in her late 20s. I'm sure some exist but they're a very minute percentage.

 

I have known female virgins but they were so because of religious reasons and, like another poster pointed out, they'd basically been penetrated everywhere other than their vagina. Thus still being 'virgins.'

 

On the other side of the coin, two of my friends are early 30s like me and are yet to have a girlfriend. Neither are virgins but I'm not sure sex with prostitutes is something they're proud of.

 

Not much you can do about it OP. That's nature.

[BronzeAgeJaeger217]

Have never met a woman who was still boyfriendless in her late 20s. I'm sure some exist but they're a very minute percentage.

 

I have known female virgins but they were so because of religious reasons and, like another poster pointed out, they'd basically been penetrated everywhere other than their vagina. Thus still being 'virgins.'

 

On the other side of the coin, two of my friends are early 30s like me and are yet to have a girlfriend. Neither are virgins but I'm not sure sex with prostitutes is something they're proud of.

 

Not much you can do about it OP. That's nature.

 

And I wonder why people think men have it easier