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[loveweary11]

Indeed, I know that. And when I talk about gathering, I literally mean gathering. Finding things that are growing wild.

 

Doesn't mean I can't discuss agriculture and growing plants as well, lol.

 

I can't imagine foraging in your area.

 

You're in the desert, right?

 

Such different vegetation from what I forage in the Northeast USA.

 

I'd probably get bit by a rattle snake as i pick the wrong/poison plant.

 

Even Florida was difficult for me given all the stuff I can't identify there.

[Phoe]

But if that's what you're into (living off the grid, homestead, etc), it doesn't gel all that well with picking up and traveling on a whim. Who's going to care for the chickens and rabbits?

 

Indeed, when you get into that true homestead style living, where you've established a home and have land for crops and animals, there's no going anywhere!

 

My neighborhood has areas where there are plenty of farm animals. There's a girl who walks her cow up the street a few times a week. I hear roosters every morning. There's no uprooting that.

[loveweary11]

Indeed, when you get into that true homestead style living, where you've established a home and have land for crops and animals, there's no going anywhere!

 

My neighborhood has areas where there are plenty of farm animals. There's a girl who walks her cow up the street a few times a week. I hear roosters every morning. There's no uprooting that.

 

I'll add that homesteading is a different part of life than the travel for me.

 

I see it as what I do later, after getting sick of traveling, or falling in love with one particular place and just staying.

 

You could homestead anywhere, including still living on a boat on a dock on your property you bought to homestead on.

 

The options are limitless.

 

Some homesteading is also done on boats as well. You can grow small things, you create and use all of your own energy, water, etc... You just can't raise animals on boats that are capable of cruising the world efficiently.

[Heatherknows]

I already have them.

 

I had built an off grid,class b rv, fully self contained and could be plopped in the middle of nowhere for weeks at a time.

 

I just sold it a few months ago to move onto the new boat I built, which is also off grid and even more self sufficient than the rv was.

 

I don't have bosses. I am the boss/owner.

 

The boat is a state of the art, high speed sailing machine. Made from the same material and in the same way Boeing makes the new planes (vacuum resin infused composites). Put in house terms, it's 4 bedroom, 3 bathroom, seats 12 for dining, sleeps 10 and capable of world travel.

 

That's my direction.

 

Just need to find the right soul to experience the planet with.

 

I've been living off grid since 2005 or so and did so with my ex wife.

 

That's fantastic. So do you plan to make the boat your official dwelling? Is your job creating "Off the Grid boats and RV's" ?

[Phoe]

I can't imagine foraging in your area.

 

You're in the desert, right?

 

Such different vegetation from what I forage in the Northeast USA.

 

I'd probably get bit by a rattle snake as i pick the wrong/poison plant.

 

Even Florida was difficult for me given all the stuff I can't identify there.

 

Foraging out here definitely is sparse. When I was little, our house was the only one around, with mostly open desert around us. A few roads and a few other houses scattered. But we'd leave the property and she'd show me all these different plants and weeds and would explain them to me. I remember her showing me these odd tiny little weeds that grow out of the ground, and how I could eat them if I ever got lost. They taste oddly like broccoli.

 

Cacti of course are crucial. And lots of funny little bugs that can be eaten.

[loveweary11]

That's fantastic. So do you plan to make the boat your official dwelling? Is your job creating "Off the Grid boats and RV's" ?

 

I've lived aboard since 2005 or so. I was only living on land the past few years to build the new boat for the ex wife and I. Now it's just mine.

 

I have a couple small businesses. Probably won't be posting exactly what they are. One is marine related though.

[Heatherknows]

I've lived aboard since 2005 or so. I was only living on land the past few years to build the new boat for the ex wife and I. Now it's just mine.

 

I have a couple small businesses. Probably won't be posting exactly what they are. One is marine related though.

 

That's pretty cool.

[loveweary11]

Foraging out here definitely is sparse. When I was little, our house was the only one around, with mostly open desert around us. A few roads and a few other houses scattered. But we'd leave the property and she'd show me all these different plants and weeds and would explain them to me. I remember her showing me these odd tiny little weeds that grow out of the ground, and how I could eat them if I ever got lost. They taste oddly like broccoli.

 

Cacti of course are crucial. And lots of funny little bugs that can be eaten.

 

Cacti is really the only one I'd knew about being essential.

 

It's amazing how good foraged food is. I really enjoy cooking.

 

While traveling via boat, you aren't really on a boat all the time. You're taking your home to various seaside villages to explore and live. So, one of my favorite things to do is going out for a long walk to explore an area and foraging. When I get back, I cook up an awesome impromptu meal based on the foraged foods or caught fish.

[loveweary11]

 

As someone born and raised at ground zero of the hippie movement, I don't believe I've ever run into a hippie living his authentic life who was also sweating getting bottle service at the clubs.

 

This post of yours is fascinating.

 

I want to touch on one other thing regarding the parallels between the original 60's hippie stuff and current culture.

 

In the 60's you had festivals like Woodstock, etc. These festivals showcased the music and culture of the times. They were a place for people with common interests to get together and celebrate.

 

Now, we also have festivals. Probably too many of them. Ultra, Electric Forest, Coachella, Hard Festival, Electric Daisy Carnival, etc... As it was then, it is now. People of a like mind gather to celebrate while listening to music and sharing common interests.

 

Back in the day, hippie artists like Simon and Garfunkel played in new york city. Woodstock itself was in upstate NY. If Jimmy Hendrix played at Studio 54 one night instead of disco, wouldn't you have gone? Wouldn't it be like a little piece of a festival broken off and enjoyed in a building?

 

This is exactly what it's like when I go to a club. I am there to see a dj/producer that interests me. I am with friends who want to have fun and dance. Last couple I went to right here in NY were Zomboy and the Mad Decent Block Party.

 

This isn't just going to a club for no reason. It's to see an artist, dance and enjoy fun with your friends.

 

The parallels between then and now have never been stronger, actually.

 

I mean the main concept behind the modern festivals is the P.L.U.R. concept, which stands for Peace, Love, Unity and Respect.

[cerridwen]

 

It's a tough thing to explain...

...These days, I suppose the word "hippie" has been badly bastardized.

 

I'm using it to mean what I discussed a few posts up. More down to Earth types.

 

 

You must mean this:

 

Down to Earth. Minimalist. But with interests in quality foods, growing your own food possibly, travel, maybe homesteading and off grid stuff.

 

Alternative lifestyles.

 

This is so commonplace in northern California and the Pacific Northwest, it's taken me a minute to think about how to identify the specifics.

 

Since the lifestyle of hard labor in the outdoors is casual and minimalist, so is the dress. Right?

Johnny Depp, as an example, is so painfully over-engineered it brings tears to my eyes.

I want to hang myself with one of his 50 rubber bracelets.

That's more of a bohemian style anyway.

THIS is about aligning your dress with what you spend the most time doing, and in turn, attracting women who are interested in the same.

 

The type of women you seek are with guys wearing stuff like

thrift store tees, board shorts, sandals, maybe a rawhide necklace with some sort of emblem representing his spiritual practice.

Whether the shirts are tight or loose doesn't matter. Stop overthinking it. That shows.

 

Going out?

Well then it's the nicer thrift store t-shirt , decent pair of thrift store jeans, and their one pair of closed toed shoes.

They truly don't give a ****.

Yet, I notice the women they are with look pretty, earthy, healthy, the things you want.

 

Sorry if you already received this advice.

I've been dipping in and out of this thread.

Edited August 15, 2015 by cerridwen

[loveweary11]

^^^^Wow. Maybe I do need to go west.

 

What's difficult is that I would have to either build a new RV or go via the Panama Canal.

 

How we have so few people of this type here is perplexing.

Edited August 15, 2015 by loveweary11

[cerridwen]

 

Back in the day, hippie artists like Simon and Garfunkel played in new york city. Woodstock itself was in upstate NY. If Jimmy Hendrix played at Studio 54 one night instead of disco, wouldn't you have gone? Wouldn't it be like a little piece of a festival broken off and enjoyed in a building?

 

This is exactly what it's like when I go to a club. I am there to see a dj/producer that interests me. I am with friends who want to have fun and dance. Last couple I went to right here in NY were Zomboy and the Mad Decent Block Party.

 

This isn't just going to a club for no reason. It's to see an artist, dance and enjoy fun with your friends.

 

 

Point taken.

Music/dancing/djs are hobby of yours and that takes you to clubs.

You dig the culture, the sense of community, so forth.

Fair enough. I totally get it. That's valid.

 

However, you can go to the club, enjoy the scene, dance, party, AND focus on more age-appropriate women there.

Guys do it all the time!

"She's cute but...nah, too young."

"I'm attracted to her but....she could be my daughter."

 

 

It's going to be a tall order that a club woman ALSO wants your alternative lifestyle and that's what posters are pointing out.

Clubs require dressing up, heels, makeup, all that ****.

The earthy type you're seeking doesn't want to do that.

They wait for the outdoor festivals.

 

At a club, maybe you don't have to focus on ANY women and just have fun.

You can look to meet more mature women (physically and emotionally) at festivals that appeal to wider age ranges, or while you're pursuing your other hobbies.

I went to one this summer that had a ton of families at it.

A wide range of women.

 

By all means, keep your music.

You don't have to throw out the bath water because of the babies.

I'm saying, keep the bath water and forget the babies all together.

Edited August 16, 2015 by cerridwen
****ing phone1 GAH!

[Rejected Rosebud]

Super awesome. You?

No I am serious, when you were 18 were you alot different than you are now or have you pretty much remained the same? I was much different, not so awesome, I was insecure.

[xxoo]

 

The type of women you seek are with guys wearing stuff like

thrift store tees, board shorts, sandals, maybe a rawhide necklace with some sort of emblem representing his spiritual practice.

Whether the shirts are tight or loose doesn't matter. Stop overthinking it. That shows.

 

Going out?

Well then it's the nicer thrift store t-shirt , decent pair of thrift store jeans, and their one pair of closed toed shoes.

They truly don't give a ****.

Yet, I notice the women they are with look pretty, earthy, healthy, the things you want.

 

 

So true!

 

My BIL got married in a t shirt he found at the bottom of a canyon. But it was a really nice tshirt, and he definitely washed it first

 

My sister? Beautiful, fit, climber and river guide, and happy living out of a tent. These people do not care about clothes.

[Rejected Rosebud]

 

When I'm well dressed, but not boring, like in a suit, I get the best tables, free VIP, free drinks, etc.

 

It makes a huge difference here how you look.

Since you are so all fired up about this stuff all the time why on EARTH are you interested in a "hippie chick" who wants to live sustainably off the grid, and why on Earth would a girl like that be interested in you??? You seem to have some identity crisis or something, it all doesn't go together. I guess we all go through these times.

[xxoo]

^^^^Wow. Maybe I do need to go west.

 

What's difficult is that I would have to either build a new RV or go via the Panama Canal.

 

How we have so few people of this type here is perplexing.

 

I've lived in 3 eastern states, including FL, and had a circle of friends like this in all 3.

[Rejected Rosebud]

I like variety, like most travelers.

I don't think you are representative of "most travelers." Believe it or not there are alot of us right here who are very well traveled and even preparing for our next big journey (to Morocco!) right now! But srsly. A person CANNOT reconcile an obsession with night clubs, H&M and Prada (oxymoronic!!! ) with actually living sustainably, growing your own food, and living off the grid. That lifestyle is a JOB and also it includes a rejection of alot of what you are so into.

[writergal]

I've lived in 3 eastern states, including FL, and had a circle of friends like this in all 3.

 

I agree. You can find hippie chicks and dudes in any state or country for that matter. LW its not about what you wear, but how you wear it.

[Rejected Rosebud]

I know what you mean. I hit it off so well with CA girls normally. Have dated several.

 

:confused: You do realize that California contains Humboldt County, San Francisco, LA, and the High Sierra mountains? You won't find the same types of girls in ANY of those places!!! California has one of the most liberal populations AND a rabidly conservative belt. When you say you hit it off so well with CA girls what on Earth are you talking about I mean what girls??? Like, Valley girls? Maybe if you would just … quit it and start BEING who you are and getting to know what other people are all about??

[RoseVille]

This post of yours is fascinating.

 

I want to touch on one other thing regarding the parallels between the original 60's hippie stuff and current culture.

 

In the 60's you had festivals like Woodstock, etc. These festivals showcased the music and culture of the times. They were a place for people with common interests to get together and celebrate.

 

Now, we also have festivals. Probably too many of them. Ultra, Electric Forest, Coachella, Hard Festival, Electric Daisy Carnival, etc... As it was then, it is now. People of a like mind gather to celebrate while listening to music and sharing common interests.

 

Back in the day, hippie artists like Simon and Garfunkel played in new york city. Woodstock itself was in upstate NY. If Jimmy Hendrix played at Studio 54 one night instead of disco, wouldn't you have gone? Wouldn't it be like a little piece of a festival broken off and enjoyed in a building?

 

This is exactly what it's like when I go to a club. I am there to see a dj/producer that interests me. I am with friends who want to have fun and dance. Last couple I went to right here in NY were Zomboy and the Mad Decent Block Party.

 

This isn't just going to a club for no reason. It's to see an artist, dance and enjoy fun with your friends.

 

The parallels between then and now have never been stronger, actually.

 

I mean the main concept behind the modern festivals is the P.L.U.R. concept, which stands for Peace, Love, Unity and Respect.

 

Nah, I still don't buy it.

 

There's going to shows, music events, etc., and there's going to "da club" with bottle service. The two are so, so, SOOOOOOOO different. Outside Lands versus Ruby Sky.

[writergal]

I don't think you are representative of "most travelers." Believe it or not there are alot of us right here who are very well traveled and even preparing for our next big journey (to Morocco!) right now! But srsly. A person CANNOT reconcile an obsession with night clubs, H&M and Prada (oxymoronic!!! ) with actually living sustainably, growing your own food, and living off the grid. That lifestyle is a JOB and also it includes a rejection of alot of what you are so into.

 

 

Agreed. My CSA friends dont go clubbing, dont wear designer labels and have to work a 40 week job just to make ends meet. Some have traveled abroad but not all.

 

Stop worrying about clothing brand labels, because most intelligent people dont care what designer a person wears.

[RoseVille]

I just skimmed through this thread and I probably need to read more closely. Forgive me if I missed any details about there being a specific girl that just appeared in the picture, recent developments, ect.

 

There already is something about this thread that really concerns me. The debacle with Yoga Girl says to me that the one thing that is in *critical*, *dire*, *emergency*, need of an upgrade is how you screen. I mean, aren't you astounded in how little you knew about her after all this time together? Sometimes people change and sometimes people keep secrets, but some very big stuff about Yoga Chick, i.e., that she was only a taker, you could have found out long before you did.

 

And yet, the one thing you seem to be focusing on--probably the LEAST possible important thing you could even come up with--is your image. Seriously?!? I mean, going from your avatar, you're a good-looking guy (no homo), and you know women like men who are comfortable in their skin. If you are, they you can make a lot of things style-wise look great. If you aren't, the best "look" won't save you.

 

Anyway this is my 30000-foot impression of things so far.

 

Your observations are spot on. Style over substance is the focus here.

[cerridwen]

...Outside Lands versus Ruby Sky.

 

I LOVE having a local girl here! :love:

[RoseVille]

:confused: You do realize that California contains Humboldt County, San Francisco, LA, and the High Sierra mountains? You won't find the same types of girls in ANY of those places!!! California has one of the most liberal populations AND a rabidly conservative belt. When you say you hit it off so well with CA girls what on Earth are you talking about I mean what girls??? Like, Valley girls? Maybe if you would just … quit it and start BEING who you are and getting to know what other people are all about??

 

Maybe OC? Chico? San Diego? Santa Barbara? The places where the 18 year olds are into partying and very image conscious?

[loveweary11]

:confused: You do realize that California contains Humboldt County, San Francisco, LA, and the High Sierra mountains? You won't find the same types of girls in ANY of those places!!! California has one of the most liberal populations AND a rabidly conservative belt. When you say you hit it off so well with CA girls what on Earth are you talking about I mean what girls??? Like, Valley girls? Maybe if you would just … quit it and start BEING who you are and getting to know what other people are all about??

 

You're a real jerk. I put everything about who I actually am up here and you just attack it. Is there an ignore function on this forum? I tnink I found my first user to add to it.

 

Found the function.

 

Bye now.