Luna1 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 He is of mixed heritage. His father is a Pakistani and his mother is English, though she converted into Islam after marriage. He has been raised in the UK. He is a Muslim and all his siblings have typical Muslim names. He also supports Pakistan in cricket and does have identification with the country. He has olive skin colour. And has dark features like dark eyes and hair. Though he seems pretty liberal, he has tattoos, dates white Christian women, is pretty outgoing as well, his family is traditional and his sisters and mother wear the Indian-Pakistani attires like Salwar Kameez, lehengas and such. It's not that they don't wear western stuff. They do wear western clothes and are free to wear or dress up. No restrictions there. And they are quite family oriented as well. Very close knit as a family. Now he is just 23 so there isn't any chance of him getting into a serious relationship currently. He is young and has womanising tendencies so I doubt he is going to settle down any time soon but I was wondering about the future prospects of having a relationship with him. I mean his dad married a white woman and this guy picks up girls for hook-ups who are blondes and white. His girlfriends, though have been dark haired, dark eyed and olive skin-toned. He said that his favourite Disney princess whom he would date would be Pocahontas or Jasmine (both WOC- women of colour). So I am guessing he prefers WOC for relationships but for random hook-ups and playing around, he goes for white girls. So by this, what chance do you think (any girl who isn't WOC or muslim or someone who is not related to his culture) would have for long term-serious relationships? Link to post Share on other sites
kira1990 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 From what you wrote it seems like he still likes to have fun. Also does he know about your feelings towards him? But from what i read he would like to settle down with a girl that has self respect respect for elders and someone who would respect his Islamic values and family ties. The reason he only hooks up with white girls might be because maybe he feels that their certain characters, attitides,behavior does not match his cultural values whereas with Asian girls he can relate to because they would have similar values etc. However this does not mean that u dont stand a chance. It all depends on your personality and attitude. Clearly family is important to him so if u are the type of person that respects her parents obeys them etc it will attract him. Also the way u dress plays a big role too. If you dress too open he might just want one thing but if u dress modest and behave modest i.e letting him know that you are not another "white girl" that he can hook up with he will show u respect because by that you have let him know that u respect yourself . From personal experience no Muslim guy wants to marry a girl that has no self respect morals family respect and dresses too open. Muslim guys especially Pakistani like the opposite hence why his mum converted to muslim and dresses according to his dads values.. So basically look at his mum and take example from her how she behaves dresses etc. Hope that helps Best of luck Link to post Share on other sites
yxalitis Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yes, but...why bother? He is by your own accounts not ready to settle down, playing the field, "womanising" as you put it.. He has strong family connections and a religion not precisely known for tolerance and acceptance of other viewpoints. So, regardless of what he may or may not think of you...surely out there in this big world you can find a more suitable partner... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Luna1 Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Didn't receive many replies so I am asking again :/ He is of mixed heritage. His father is a Pakistani and his mother is English, though she converted into Islam after marriage. He has been raised in the UK. He is a Muslim and all his siblings have typical Muslim names. He also supports Pakistan in cricket and does have identification with the country. He has olive skin colour. And has dark features like dark eyes and hair. Though he seems pretty liberal, he has tattoos, dates white Christian women, is pretty outgoing as well, his family is traditional and his sisters and mother wear the Indian-Pakistani attires like Salwar Kameez, lehengas and such. It's not that they don't wear western stuff. They do wear western clothes and are free to wear or dress up. No restrictions there. And they are quite family oriented as well. Very close knit as a family. Now he is just 23 so there isn't any chance of him getting into a serious relationship currently. He is young and has womanising tendencies so I doubt he is going to settle down any time soon but I was wondering about the future prospects of having a relationship with him. I mean his dad married a white woman and this guy picks up girls for hook-ups who are blondes and white. His girlfriends, though have been dark haired, dark eyed and olive skin-toned. He said that his favourite Disney princess whom he would date would be Pocahontas or Jasmine (both WOC- women of colour). So I am guessing he prefers WOC for relationships but for random hook-ups and playing around, he goes for white girls. He seems to go mostly for blondes, hispanic or white girls for hook ups or dating. So by this, what chance do you think (any girl who isn't WOC or muslim or someone who is not related to his culture) would have for long term-serious relationships? Link to post Share on other sites
sandylee1 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I had to read this a few times to understand your question. You're asking if he would want a relationship with a non Muslim or a white woman? If that's your question, from the info you've provided I don't think so. Devout Muslims will not marry non Muslims and if they do , they get ostracised more often than not. He's choosing a certain type for fun, but won't settle down with that type. Is this a guy you're interested in? Are you white? As someone who dated a Muslim guy many years ago, I wouldn't go there. There is no compromise in their religion, he was to give me a Muslim name if we married and any kids would be Muslim. That didn't work for me, as I don't believe I should change for anyone. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
spanz1 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 White and Muslim do not exclude each other. If you want to be with this guy, and are interested in the Muslim faith, then offer to learn about it while you date. It is not that unusual for men to want to marry women of fairer skin, so that the children have a genetically better chance of passing off as white. It is oddly a fairly common thing in the black community in USA. Not sure why, I guess there is still plenty of prejudice to deal with if you are non-white. Link to post Share on other sites
GunslingerRoland Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I hate to generalize... but he fits a very common stereotype of muslim guys who screw around with white girls and live a borderline life of a liberal lifestyle with friends and a traditional lifestyle at home. From knowing a number of guys like that I'd say the odds of settling down with him are like .00001% 3 Link to post Share on other sites
ShatteredLady Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I've lived half of my life in the UK & half in USA. In my experience the whole racial 'thing' is pretty different. It really depends on his families & his ideals. Most very English Muslims I've known really don't have a problem as long as the kids are raised in the faith. As an individual he could see white women as easy & have more respect for traditional Muslim women. In which case a relationship could be a bad idea. Does he just find darker skin, brown eyes more attractive? My husband has never found a blonde attractive. Just his taste. He's blue eyed English. I have known a couple of 'weird ones' though. For example I had a black male friend who would only have casual or one night stands with black women. All his emotionally committed relationships were with white women. He believed there were fundamental differences in how most black women viewed men & marriage. Pretty racist. He firmly believed he could only have an equal partnership with a white woman because of preconceived notions the races have about the 'place' of women & men in marriage. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Luna1 Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 I've lived half of my life in the UK & half in USA. In my experience the whole racial 'thing' is pretty different. It really depends on his families & his ideals. Most very English Muslims I've known really don't have a problem as long as the kids are raised in the faith. As an individual he could see white women as easy & have more respect for traditional Muslim women. In which case a relationship could be a bad idea. Does he just find darker skin, brown eyes more attractive? My husband has never found a blonde attractive. Just his taste. He's blue eyed English. I have known a couple of 'weird ones' though. For example I had a black male friend who would only have casual or one night stands with black women. All his emotionally committed relationships were with white women. He believed there were fundamental differences in how most black women viewed men & marriage. Pretty racist. He firmly believed he could only have an equal partnership with a white woman because of preconceived notions the races have about the 'place' of women & men in marriage. Do such muslim men who are so young and have womanising tendencies date women of color from the indian subcontinent who hangs out at bars?? Link to post Share on other sites
ShatteredLady Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I'm from south London. Like anywhere things can be different. I obviously don't know all the racial minority men in London! Hahaha. In my London experience England is more of a 'melting pot' than America. Having said that there are still idiot skin heads & religious zealots. It's about the individual. All I was saying was USA advise might not apply as well to your situation. I've known more Indian party girls. Obviously there's a bad history there (Pakistani vs Indian). Depends how 'English' he is, if that bothers him. I don't think I've known a Muslim party girl. My past close friend (man) used to negatively comment on the 'packs' of Asian girls who travelled the clubs. Not his thing. It's impossible to put people into sets according to race or religion. There's all kinds of extremes there. I think we're all a mix of nature & nurture. Link to post Share on other sites
ShatteredLady Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) 'Dating' can cover a multitude of sins. Everyone has grandparents & old aunts & uncles. If you can't show the due respect I don't think you'd get a wedding invite! I asked my white husband which Disney princess he'd marry..."Jasmine!" Edited August 20, 2015 by ShatteredLady Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I have known a couple of 'weird ones' though. For example I had a black male friend who would only have casual or one night stands with black women. All his emotionally committed relationships were with white women. He believed there were fundamental differences in how most black women viewed men & marriage. Pretty racist. He firmly believed he could only have an equal partnership with a white woman because of preconceived notions the races have about the 'place' of women & men in marriage. I can understand him only liking white women but why did he even bother having a casual one night stand with black women if he didn't like them? Odd. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I mean his dad married a white woman and this guy picks up girls for hook-ups who are blondes and white. He seems to go mostly for blondes, hispanic or white girls for hook ups or dating. So by this, what chance do you think (any girl who isn't WOC or muslim or someone who is not related to his culture) would have for long term-serious relationships? Not a very good chance at all. I think because his dad is attracted to and married a white woman he will do the same. That is who he is attracted to and he can't help that fact. By his dad being married to a white woman he will feel very comfortable marrying one also. Why do you care OP? Link to post Share on other sites
ShatteredLady Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Stilla. I know! That's why I called him a 'weird one'. We talked about it in depth because I found it fascinating. It wasn't that he found black women physically unattractive. His type was very dark white women, olive skin, brown eyes, dark hair. He truly believed that black women take a submissive role in marriage & he would never find an equal partner in a black woman. He perceived English white women as being strong, independent, wouldn't take any crap etc. As I said, pretty racist. Link to post Share on other sites
impatiently_patient Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 He is Muslim and has tattoos. Dafuq? Link to post Share on other sites
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