Should I do anything or ride this storm out

[S2B]

All: I just filed for no fault divorce this evening the lawyer said it will talk a few days to complete. I will hand deliver her a copy if she will work with me or I will have her served if not. I am going to meet her and the children shortly and I will tell her. I am prepared to tell her that I will go to marriage counseling with her and go out on date nights to see if we can be saved.

We can never go back to where we were .

 

It was smart to file.

 

I'm unsure what date night accomplishes. Your wife likes others - men, women - and hasn't given any evidence that she is honest or loyal or respectful.

 

The message you'd be sending by dating her seems convoluted. What's the point? She's bi, you want monogamy.

 

It sends mixed signals to her and to your kids.

 

Also, she hasn't done anything to earn your attempt at dating her.

 

 

Give her time to see what she changes. Besides, you may feel relieved to not have her to worry about for a while. You deserve a break.

[TX-SC]

Good luck buddy! You are making the right decision to go ahead and file for divorce. You can stop that process anytime along the way. DO NOT get caught up in her sob story tonight. You must stay firm on this. She obviously is trying to sweet talk you into taking her back. That decision should be made by you at a later date, once you have some time to yourself to see if you really WANT her back.

 

Her bisexual/lesbian tendencies will have to be addressed. DO NOT sweep that under the rug. Of the three people she cheated with, two were women.

[aliveagain]

All: I just filed for no fault divorce this evening the lawyer said it will talk a few days to complete. I will hand deliver her a copy if she will work with me or I will have her served if not. I am going to meet her and the children shortly and I will tell her. I am prepared to tell her that I will go to marriage counseling with her and go out on date nights to see if we can be saved.

We can never go back to where we were .

 

Friend, don't let any of her guilt trips get to you. She knew exactly what she was doing every time she went to the bars on the hunt with the two women she was also sleeping with. She new that you would divorce her if caught but that didn't stop her. She is getting exactly what she expected to get. She just never expected you had it in you to catch her. Don't forget to get tested for STD's.

Edited September 10, 2015 by aliveagain

[SummerDreams]

Doesnt your FIL know that kids need happy parents to feel secure? Doesnt he know the kids "catch" the dissatisfaction and bad energy in the air? Just the fake presence of both parents on the house is not enough to make kids happy. Kids adapt to every situation and they learn to be happy with it. I dont think you should stay with such a woman for the kids. She created this situation and now YOU are supposed to be the adult one in this?

[latinmex]

Bigdaddyt:

We can tell you a lot of things, a lot of advice, but the only person who is going to choice if you go for R or D is YOU and just YOU.

Just follow your HEART and your FEELINGS.

About your FIL that is Catholic and he thinks that the marriage is till dead....

WRONG the Catholic Church accept the divorce in some cases.

In My case my first wife cheat on me when I had all the proofs in my hand I get the divorce and after that I went to the Catholic Church I show then all the proofs and almost after a Year They annul my marriage. Is not easy is a lot of papers and interviews but they can do it. I don´t say that you want to do it but I tell you this just to know that yo be a Catholic doesnt means to be married with somebody who doesn´t respect the marriage and the Family.

And after a year that I get the papers from the Church I met a WONDERFUL WOMAN I get married again, I have 24 years with Her I have 2 Beautiful daughters and one handsome son. I tell you this to see that after a divorce is a new life and can be better.

Sorry if I have some mistakes in my writing but English is not my first language

 

GOOD LUCK

[World's.Edge]

She wants to live separately for now allowing me space, but would like to attend marriage counseling together and go on dates during the week.

I am prepared to tell her that I will go to marriage counseling with her and go out on date nights to see if we can be saved.

I guess the 'date nights' are meant to bring you two closer and allow you to spend time together, but after her affairs and the way she has treated you all these years, to me these date nights seems more of a "reward" than anything else. I think that you should spend time on your own for a while, focus on yourself and your children. She should attend therapy on her own in the meantime and then maybe after some time has passed, you can approach the idea of trying to reconcile and marriage counselling. Attempting it right away doesn't seem like a good idea.

[sandylee1]

Does daddy know she's Bi as well?

 

I'd be terribly ashamed and disappointed if my children cheated in the future. I don't know how I could ask my future SIL or DIL to forgive them. I feel I wouldn't have the right to do that. I've a feeling my FIL/ MIL would ask me to forgive my H though they would be very disappointed in him too.

 

I'm so gonna make it clear to my kids that it's a very destructive thing to do in a marriage and has far reaching consequences. They already know it's wrong as teens and tweens though.

 

I don't think dating her as soon as you seperate is wise. Really let her see how it is to be a single mom. Spend time alone for a little while.

 

Do take care of yourself. Don't talk badly about their mom to the kids, no matter how you feel about her.

 

As much as I love my own gender, don't ever let a woman control or emotionally abuse you. It's different for a woman to be sweet to get her way, I try and use my charm with my H sometimes, but your wife has done a lot more than that.

[Bigdaddyt]

It was smart to file.

 

I'm unsure what date night accomplishes. Your wife likes others - men, women - and hasn't given any evidence that she is honest or loyal or respectful.

 

The message you'd be sending by dating her seems convoluted. What's the point? She's bi, you want monogamy.

 

It sends mixed signals to her and to your kids.

 

Also, she hasn't done anything to earn your attempt at dating her.

 

 

Give her time to see what she changes. Besides, you may feel relieved to not have her to worry about for a while. You deserve a break.

 

S2B, I met with my STBXW last night and told her that I filed for D. She became hysterical and was very clingy . I told her that we need to coparent and that I would be fair in the settlement . She asked me to go to counseling with her and I said that I would and that we could meet for lunch or dinner once a week to see where it leads us. I had a very bad relationship with my first wife and I do not want it again.

She did ask me not to date and as I left she kinda freaked me out by looking straight into my eyes and said I will never allow you to be in another relationship with a woman . I told her I am nowhere near that point and we could talk later.

[CarrieT]

Congratulations, BDT - you are on the road to recovery...

[Bigdaddyt]

Does daddy know she's Bi as well?

 

I'd be terribly ashamed and disappointed if my children cheated in the future. I don't know how I could ask my future SIL or DIL to forgive them. I feel I wouldn't have the right to do that. I've a feeling my FIL/ MIL would ask me to forgive my H though they would be very disappointed in him too.

 

I'm so gonna make it clear to my kids that it's a very destructive thing to do in a marriage and has far reaching consequences. They already know it's wrong as teens and tweens though.

 

I don't think dating her as soon as you seperate is wise. Really let her see how it is to be a single mom. Spend time alone for a little while.

 

Do take care of yourself. Don't talk badly about their mom to the kids, no matter how you feel about her

As much as I love my own gender, don't ever let a woman control or emotionally abuse you. It's different for a woman to be sweet to get her way, I try and use my charm with my H sometimes, but your wife has done a lot more than that.

Sandy lee, I do know she is Bi when I was younger I probably would have been okay with it, but I have grown so much during my life that it is not something that I want. My children are extremely well adjusted and I pour everything into them. They are great in academics, sports , and music. I have told them that cheating is wrong and shows a serious character flaw in a person. I strive so that my kids will get the opportunity to be more successful than I was.

[aliveagain]

I am a long time viewer of LS and I don’t even know where to begin or if this is really anything that I should stir up, but I have been triggering badly for the last several months and I would like some advice so that I don’t do somethingstupid. My story I am a survivor of infidelity in that my first wife cheated onme and I actually caught her in the act and it was all that I could do not to physically hurt my XW and her AP, when I caught them in our marital bed. I didtry a short R however, I just couldn’t do it and we divorced.

Now to the present, I am currently married to a beautifulwoman for 20 years who I adore and have severely spoiled over the years. I guess I was trying to insure that this type of betrayal never happened to me again. I worked a lot of hours to insure that my wife and children are wellcared for and I have been very fortunate that with a lot of hard work I have moved up in my company and provide them with a very nice life style.

Now the bad: My wife has always been a terrible flirt withother men and on more than one occasion I had to ask her to stop what she was doing (especially when she was drinking). She would always tell me that it wasn’t anything and that I need to stop being so jealous. She would say this but if I even looked at or talked to another woman my wife would become very angry and showed her jealous side. About 9 years ago my wife and I met a couplewith a daughter that was the same age as our youngest son and we all became closefriends. My wife would go out at least once a week with this girlfriend while I stayed home with our children. I just thought that being a SAHM she needed abreak from the children. The girl’s nights out started to become more frequentand started to play games on Facebook with guy friends on the PC at home. I didadvised her that I didn’t like her talking to these men on the PC and I thoughtthat some of their comments were inappropriate. Wife responded with anger andsaid that there are times that she needs a break and she isn’t doing anythingwrong. It is all in my head.

On the GNO she would always come home and wake me up to havesex, so I never thought that she would ever cheat on me. This type of behaviorcontinued for about six months until her Mother confronted her and told herthat she was behaving inappropriately and that she wasn’t her daughter if shecontinued to act like a tramp and run around on her husband and children.Honestly I just thought that she was going through a phase and would get overit. I finally told her that I was no longer okay with her going out as much asshe was and it finally came to a head when I went to pick her and this GF up ata upscale bar near our house and instead of texting her that I was there, Ijust walked in and found her and her GF sitting at the bar with two men. I musthave looked extremely upset because the one guy with my wife looked terrifiedwhen she told him who I was. I am 6’2” and at the time weighed 250 lbs

We fought and she said that it was nothing she was just there to support her friend. I told her that next time I walk in on her with another man there is going to be trouble.

My wife stayed home for some time after this and the GNO stopped for a while, I told my wife if she had so much free time she needed to do something with her life and I paid for her to go back to college and get a degree. I worked full time and paid all of the bills and did everything around the house. She attended college full time and I took care of everything to allow her to study. One night we were at a friend’s party and I was inside andcould not find my wife so I went to look for her and found her in a hot tubwith another man and his wife and my wife and the OM wife here in their pantiesand bras making out. They did not see me. I was stunned and I didn’t know whatto do, I stood there for a moment then I walked up to the hot tub and the twowomen split up and the OM told me to relax they are just fooling around. Icalmly asked my wife (who was extremely drunk) to get out and that we weregoing home. My wife said that she wasn’t leaving and that I should go home. I thenreached into the hot tub and picked her up and wrapped her in a towel and tookher home.

I forbid her from ever hanging out with this couple againand told them that they were evil doers and I don’t want them around. The nextday the wife apologized and said that she was so drunk and could not drink inthe hot tub. I said that this was BS that she made a choice and that I am tired of her pushing the boundaries. I started doing the 180 hard and joined afitness club and became a gym rat for the next 2 years. I lost over 30 poundsand became extremely physically fit. So much so that my wife started showing me attention again and wanting to fix our relationship.

In a recent fight my wife said that she was sorry for goingout with other men and that she just thought that I knew. I was stunned by this comment; I asked her if she had sex with them she swore that she had not. I just am starting to wonder if this is even true. I recently triggered when my gut screamed that she is cheating. I have not caught her, but our sex lifestopped to twice a month, she is very critical of everything that I do, the GNO have started with other married girlfriends who all seem to be unhappy withtheir spouses. My wife has also said in anger that when she completes college things are going to change. She also has told me that she would never keep the children from me if we divorce. Some days are great others make me wonder. I am venting here and wondering if there is something to all of this smoke[/QUOTE]

 

This is just a month ago, read all the bolded areas. This behaviour has been going on for years. She is a serious tease and flirt, she's advertising "I'm available." Things that bother me about your post are:

 

>Jill and she have been friends for 9 years, so when did they become lovers?

>Your wife is jealous, a very cheater trait.

>Her own mother, your mother in law confronted her about her trashy behaviour, everyone must have seen it too.

>You busted her and Jill with their boyfriends in a neighbourhood bar. How many neighbours saw her behaviour over the years?

>She would wake you to have sex when she came home from her GNO. Isn't that when she met her O/M and O/W? You got seconds, get tested.

>You busted her in a hot tub making out with a woman with her husband present, how many other people saw this too?

>She apologized for going out with other men, not man, and thought you knew because it seems like everyone else knows.

>She lied to your face about cheating. Remember she said other men.

>Your sex was down to twice a month, she's getting it somewhere. The correct statement is: "you were getting it twice a month."

>GNO started again with more unhappy married girlfriends. See a pattern?

>She put you on notice, things are going to change, she won't keep the kids from you.

>You always pick women that need to be fixed.

>See your post 674, Jill is one of them and so is Dick's wife(Jane?) from the hot tub.

 

Post 674 really got me thinking. She is a stay at home mom so were they meeting in your home, in your bed? Were they meeting on their girls night out, if so where and did the three of them do it together because the three of them were always out together. Were the other men part of their get together's? The reason I point these things out is she confessed to one man, two women, but how bad was it really? If she was dating Jill's boyfriends roommate wouldn't they all be out or meeting together at the same place. Did they split off and go home with their boyfriends or did they all have sex in the same place? She has known Jill for 9 years, Jill took pills and had a drinking problem, did your wife? Jill, Dick's wife and your wife did everything together, the three of them were lovers and I don't think you have all the truth yet but you have enough.

[Bigdaddyt]

Bigdaddyt:

We can tell you a lot of things, a lot of advice, but the only person who is going to choice if you go for R or D is YOU and just YOU.

Just follow your HEART and your FEELINGS.

About your FIL that is Catholic and he thinks that the marriage is till dead....

WRONG the Catholic Church accept the divorce in some cases.

In My case my first wife cheat on me when I had all the proofs in my hand I get the divorce and after that I went to the Catholic Church I show then all the proofs and almost after a Year They annul my marriage. Is not easy is a lot of papers and interviews but they can do it. I don´t say that you want to do it but I tell you this just to know that yo be a Catholic doesnt means to be married with somebody who doesn´t respect the marriage and the Family.

And after a year that I get the papers from the Church I met a WONDERFUL WOMAN I get married again, I have 24 years with Her I have 2 Beautiful daughters and one handsome son. I tell you this to see that after a divorce is a new life and can be better.

Sorry if I have some mistakes in my writing but English is not my first language

 

GOOD LUCK

 

Latinmex, I had my first marriage annulled by the Catholic Church so I am very aware of the Catholic doctrine. This is so new to me now I am just in survival mode. Congrats on your new family, I truly believe good things happen to good people.

If you read my thread you would think that I must have been one horrible dude, but I look back on my life and think that I was truly blessed that I survived against the odds and that I have been successful in life. All of my siblings are back in each other's lives and we are very close.

[Bigdaddyt]

I am a long time viewer of LS and I don’t even know where to begin or if this is really anything that I should stir up, but I have been triggering badly for the last several months and I would like some advice so that I don’t do somethingstupid. My story I am a survivor of infidelity in that my first wife cheated onme and I actually caught her in the act and it was all that I could do not to physically hurt my XW and her AP, when I caught them in our marital bed. I didtry a short R however, I just couldn’t do it and we divorced.

Now to the present, I am currently married to a beautifulwoman for 20 years who I adore and have severely spoiled over the years. I guess I was trying to insure that this type of betrayal never happened to me again. I worked a lot of hours to insure that my wife and children are wellcared for and I have been very fortunate that with a lot of hard work I have moved up in my company and provide them with a very nice life style.

Now the bad: My wife has always been a terrible flirt withother men and on more than one occasion I had to ask her to stop what she was doing (especially when she was drinking). She would always tell me that it wasn’t anything and that I need to stop being so jealous. She would say this but if I even looked at or talked to another woman my wife would become very angry and showed her jealous side. About 9 years ago my wife and I met a couplewith a daughter that was the same age as our youngest son and we all became closefriends. My wife would go out at least once a week with this girlfriend while I stayed home with our children. I just thought that being a SAHM she needed abreak from the children. The girl’s nights out started to become more frequentand started to play games on Facebook with guy friends on the PC at home. I didadvised her that I didn’t like her talking to these men on the PC and I thoughtthat some of their comments were inappropriate. Wife responded with anger andsaid that there are times that she needs a break and she isn’t doing anythingwrong. It is all in my head.

On the GNO she would always come home and wake me up to havesex, so I never thought that she would ever cheat on me. This type of behaviorcontinued for about six months until her Mother confronted her and told herthat she was behaving inappropriately and that she wasn’t her daughter if shecontinued to act like a tramp and run around on her husband and children.Honestly I just thought that she was going through a phase and would get overit. I finally told her that I was no longer okay with her going out as much asshe was and it finally came to a head when I went to pick her and this GF up ata upscale bar near our house and instead of texting her that I was there, Ijust walked in and found her and her GF sitting at the bar with two men. I musthave looked extremely upset because the one guy with my wife looked terrifiedwhen she told him who I was. I am 6’2” and at the time weighed 250 lbs

We fought and she said that it was nothing she was just there to support her friend. I told her that next time I walk in on her with another man there is going to be trouble.

My wife stayed home for some time after this and the GNO stopped for a while, I told my wife if she had so much free time she needed to do something with her life and I paid for her to go back to college and get a degree. I worked full time and paid all of the bills and did everything around the house. She attended college full time and I took care of everything to allow her to study. One night we were at a friend’s party and I was inside andcould not find my wife so I went to look for her and found her in a hot tubwith another man and his wife and my wife and the OM wife here in their pantiesand bras making out. They did not see me. I was stunned and I didn’t know whatto do, I stood there for a moment then I walked up to the hot tub and the twowomen split up and the OM told me to relax they are just fooling around. Icalmly asked my wife (who was extremely drunk) to get out and that we weregoing home. My wife said that she wasn’t leaving and that I should go home. I thenreached into the hot tub and picked her up and wrapped her in a towel and tookher home.

I forbid her from ever hanging out with this couple againand told them that they were evil doers and I don’t want them around. The nextday the wife apologized and said that she was so drunk and could not drink inthe hot tub. I said that this was BS that she made a choice and that I am tired of her pushing the boundaries. I started doing the 180 hard and joined afitness club and became a gym rat for the next 2 years. I lost over 30 poundsand became extremely physically fit. So much so that my wife started showing me attention again and wanting to fix our relationship.

In a recent fight my wife said that she was sorry for goingout with other men and that she just thought that I knew. I was stunned by this comment; I asked her if she had sex with them she swore that she had not. I just am starting to wonder if this is even true. I recently triggered when my gut screamed that she is cheating. I have not caught her, but our sex lifestopped to twice a month, she is very critical of everything that I do, the GNO have started with other married girlfriends who all seem to be unhappy withtheir spouses. My wife has also said in anger that when she completes college things are going to change. She also has told me that she would never keep the children from me if we divorce. Some days are great others make me wonder. I am venting here and wondering if there is something to all of this smoke[/QUOTE]

 

This is just a month ago, read all the bolded areas. This behaviour has been going on for years. She is a serious tease and flirt, she's advertising "I'm available." Things that bother me about your post are:

 

>Jill and she have been friends for 9 years, so when did they become lovers?

>Your wife is jealous, a very cheater trait.

>Her own mother, your mother in law confronted her about her trashy behaviour, everyone must have seen it too.

>You busted her and Jill with their boyfriends in a neighbourhood bar. How many neighbours saw her behaviour over the years?

>She would wake you to have sex when she came home from her GNO. Isn't that when she met her O/M and O/W? You got seconds, get tested.

>You busted her in a hot tub making out with a woman with her husband present, how many other people saw this too?

>She apologized for going out with other men, not man, and thought you knew because it seems like everyone else knows.

>She lied to your face about cheating. Remember she said other men.

>Your sex was down to twice a month, she's getting it somewhere. The correct statement is: "you were getting it twice a month."

>GNO started again with more unhappy married girlfriends. See a pattern?

>She put you on notice, things are going to change, she won't keep the kids from you.

>You always pick women that need to be fixed.

>See your post 674, Jill is one of them and so is Dick's wife(Jane?) from the hot tub.

 

Post 674 really got me thinking. She is a stay at home mom so were they meeting in your home, in your bed? Were they meeting on their girls night out, if so where and did the three of them do it together because the three of them were always out together. Were the other men part of their get together's? The reason I point these things out is she confessed to one man, two women, but how bad was it really? If she was dating Jill's boyfriends roommate wouldn't they all be out or meeting together at the same place. Did they split off and go home with their boyfriends or did they all have sex in the same place? She has known Jill for 9 years, Jill took pills and had a drinking problem, did your wife? Jill, Dick's wife and your wife did everything together, the three of them were lovers and I don't think you have all the truth yet but you have enough.

 

Alive, I am trying to answer this, my STBXW was a SAHM and was home with Jill and could have been doing God knows what behind my back. Jill was always fiercely protective of my wife, so I assume that they were in a long term affair and Jill wanted my Wife to leave me for her, but my Wife wouldn't . That I believe is when Jill tried to pull me into the mix.

The million dollar question am I going to get back with my STBXW , not likely but I won't rule it out. We are living separately and I am too mentally exhausted to put anymore effort into this relationship.

I just could never trust her again and I would probably cheat on her now, that is something that I swore to myself that I would never do. I hope this answer the question my mind is currently a mess.

[Bigdaddyt]

All: I just want to thank everyone for your kindness and support, I would still be trapped in limbo hell if I hadn't come to LS.

[qubist]

Bigdaddy: You fulfill you promise to yourself and filed for D, if you didn't do it she wouldn't take you seriously. it is time for you to relax from all this stress and take care of yourself. her reaction was expected and to be honest it was good, the fact that she freaked out means that she wants you otherwise she wouldn't care. all this will serve her a much needed lesson for the rest of her life. I also like the fact that you are keeping your options open. take it easy now and let her do the hard work if she wants to earn your love.

[S2B]

S2B, I met with my STBXW last night and told her that I filed for D. She became hysterical and was very clingy . I told her that we need to coparent and that I would be fair in the settlement . She asked me to go to counseling with her and I said that I would and that we could meet for lunch or dinner once a week to see where it leads us. I had a very bad relationship with my first wife and I do not want it again.

She did ask me not to date and as I left she kinda freaked me out by looking straight into my eyes and said I will never allow you to be in another relationship with a woman . I told her I am nowhere near that point and we could talk later.

 

She isn't allowed to make the rules for you anymore. Her rules are to control and manipulate you.

 

You need to make it clear to her that YOU decide what's best for yourself now and moving forward.

 

This is your life to live moving forward. Being good parents is one thing. Allowing her to continue road blocking you is another.

 

She's road blocked your happiness a long time. It's time to set up a boundary for her that sends a clear message that she doesn't decide for you any longer.

[Bigdaddyt]

She isn't allowed to make the rules for you anymore. Her rules are to control and manipulate you.

 

You need to make it clear to her that YOU decide what's best for yourself now and moving forward.

 

This is your life to live moving forward. Being good parents is one thing. Allowing her to continue road blocking you is another.

 

She's road blocked your happiness a long time. It's time to set up a boundary for her that sends a clear message that she doesn't decide for you any longer.

 

S2B, I know that you are right, I will have to become a little tougher when I deal with her going forward.

I went to my gym this morning and told my trainer that I filed and she looked at me with a disgusted look on her face and said dude you should have done that years ago. She knows my wife.

[aliveagain]

S2B, I know that you are right, I will have to become a little tougher when I deal with her going forward.

I went to my gym this morning and told my trainer that I filed and she looked at me with a disgusted look on her face and said dude you should have done that years ago. She knows my wife.[/QUOTE]

 

It's sh*t like this that burns my a$$. Why didn't she say something, even subtly years ago if she knew what was going on? Obviously everyone in your community knew about your wife, she didn't even try to hide her activities from others, just from you. BDT, the one question that does bother me is why was your mother in law the first one to confront your wife, if she could see how bad your wife's behaviour was, why didn't you see it? Did you see it but were to afraid of her reaction? Never be that man again.

[Bigdaddyt]

S2B, I know that you are right, I will have to become a little tougher when I deal with her going forward.

I went to my gym this morning and told my trainer that I filed and she looked at me with a disgusted look on her face and said dude you should have done that years ago. She knows my wife.[/QUOTE]

 

It's sh*t like this that burns my a$$. Why didn't she say something, even subtly years ago if she knew what was going on? Obviously everyone in your community knew about your wife, she didn't even try to hide her activities from others, just from you. BDT, the one question that does bother me is why was your mother in law the first one to confront your wife, if she could see how bad your wife's behaviour was, why didn't you see it? Did you see it but were to afraid of her reaction? Never be that man again.

 

Alive, I don't know if my trainer knew or suspected or just thought that my wife was a total B. I didn't know my wife was doing all of this behind my back, I was busy making a living and raising children. I truly though that we were on the same page. Shame on me for not being aware of this, never again.

[Bigdaddyt]

All: I wasn't going to post this , but thought what the hell. My STBXW texted me this morning and said her and her girlfriends are going away on a trip to the casinos and I can watch the boys or her parents will. Fast recovery. I told her have your parents watch them tonight and I will take them off roading and camping over the weekend.

[aliveagain]

 

Alive, I don't know if my trainer knew or suspected or just thought that my wife was a total B. I didn't know my wife was doing all of this behind my back, I was busy making a living and raising children. I truly though that we were on the same page. Shame on me for not being aware of this, never again.

 

Friend, we were all blinded by love. I like you spoil the women in my life and the wealthier I get the more I do it. I like you need to change that behaviour.

[qubist]

All: I wasn't going to post this , but thought what the hell. My STBXW texted me this morning and said her and her girlfriends are going away on a trip to the casinos and I can watch the boys or her parents will. Fast recovery. I told her have your parents watch them tonight and I will take them off roading and camping over the weekend.

Lord, she is not getting it. I would tell her father so he would know how she treats you and your family with neglect

[TX-SC]

All: I wasn't going to post this , but thought what the hell. My STBXW texted me this morning and said her and her girlfriends are going away on a trip to the casinos and I can watch the boys or her parents will. Fast recovery. I told her have your parents watch them tonight and I will take them off roading and camping over the weekend.

 

Text back:

 

"Thanks for letting me know and thanks for helping me along with my decision."

[aliveagain]

All: I wasn't going to post this , but thought what the hell. My STBXW texted me this morning and said her and her girlfriends are going away on a trip to the casinos and I can watch the boys or her parents will. Fast recovery. I told her have your parents watch them tonight and I will take them off roading and camping over the weekend.

 

There is something seriously wrong with your wife. Every time you confront her or give her bad news she throws a party or does something with her girlfriends. Her coping mechanism is fu*ked. Her reaction to stress is to party. How can you survive a lifetime with someone that messed up. She needs a lot of help, perhaps you should point this out to her consular if not to her. At least this confirms your making the right decision.

[Bigdaddyt]

 

Friend, we were all blinded by love. I like you spoil the women in my life and the wealthier I get the more I do it. I like you need to change that behaviour.

 

Alive, I was so stupid in love with my wife I was oblivious to everything . I too have become well off financially and spoiled my wife and children. I would routinely buy her expensive gifts and celebrate her Birthday for a month. I would arrange for her to have spa days or go to NYC for a show and dinner. I am going to start to spoil me.