Dating a woman who has slept around....

August 30, 2015

I am no more likely to cheat or house an STI ( I've been tested recently)

That's also not true. You are at a much, much higher chance of having an STD. Some STDs lie dormant and cannot be picked up by tests. There are also many rarer STDs that are not commonly tested for that you certainly could have picked up with all of your past partners.

There really isn't ANY sign to new men I meet that I was once promiscuous.

All I will say is, the past tends to have a bad habit of randomly reappearing when you least expect it.

Promiscuity is all too common these days, and I don't want other people thinking they can just be "abstinent" for a few days and regain their purity. And no, this wasn't a "lapse in judgment". A lapse in judgment would be driving 75 in a 50 to arrive on time to your kid's choir concert. You don't just "accidentally" sleep with hundreds of guys, and you can't just imagine it away.

Sex is sacred, and seeing people treat it as just a fun thing to do after a long day with new friends is just repulsive. Absolutely no offense intended, but [promiscuity] irritates me.

Edited August 30, 2015 by a LoveShack.org Moderator

August 30, 2015

I'm sure that's happened before, but it is the exception to the rule. Generally speaking, the fewer premarital partners that people have had, the more likely they are to be satisfied with their spouses, the less likely they are to have an affair, and the less likely they are to divorce. <snip full quote>

Perfect, I bow down to your eloquent ways.

Edited August 30, 2015 by a LoveShack.org Moderator

August 30, 2015

Every time a guy brings up the "biological" excuse and double standard of why it's acceptable for men to [language redacted] be enjoying and having a lot of sex with different members of the opposite gender but - because of their "biological explanation" - it's NOT acceptable for women to enjoy having sex with different members of the opposite gender because it's "just not biologically plausible or necessary"....I actually have to laugh.

Sorry guys...we're no longer living in the Paleolithic Era. So, regardless of how many times you bring up the "biological explanation" of why this ridiculous double standard exists and why most men are still using this excuse today to justify them being "studs" while calling women "whores" for enjoying the exact same thing that THEY'RE doing, it just doesn't hold water. Seriously.

We NO LONGER need men to "provide food, shelter and protection" for us (I know that really bothers a LOT of you, but, oh well). Heck, we no longer even need to have intercourse with any man to become pregnant to have our own babies, thanks to sperm banks, in vitro fertilization, surrogates, ETI (embryo transfer implantation) and individual sperm donors. We have our own careers, make our own money and we provide OUR OWN food, shelter and protection (weapons, self-defense, etc.). So, we basically do NOT need or want men for anything other than..........wait for it...........sexual pleasure and/or companionship.

If men want to still adhere their attitudes and modern way of life to ye ole double standards and ridiculous "biological" excuses that they can [be promiscuous] but women are (*gasp!*) NOT allowed to, because it is such a "turn off" for them and because they can't possibly 'respect' such kinds of women ...then, let them have at it. Mens' archaic attitudes are NOT going to change what we women choose to do with OUR bodies, OUR minds and OUR lives.

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But see you only have that power because men let you have it, if men as a whole decided to, they could take it away as well, never kid yourself thinking you're equal to a man in everything just like a man isn't equal to a woman in everything.

Men can also take your rights and privileges away and other than the law and court system you can't really stop it.

Women have to much power over men at the moment and I find that women are never supposed to be surrogate men, I want to date a feminine woman not a woman who acts like a man. Sorry

Edited August 30, 2015 by a LoveShack.org Moderator

August 30, 2015

In our conscious minds... our neocortex, the newest awesome addition to our brains... men and women are very much equal. Our conscious thoughts come from this place. It's where we make logical decisions. When we choose to think with our conscious/rational minds, biology seems like a poor excuse for sexual behaviors.

However, our limbic systems and reptillian brain have a completely different agenda, and Pull N Pray nailed it above. Welcome to the sexual marketplace. Because the limbic system (mammalian brain, the four F's, fight, flight, feed, and f(ck) and the reptilian brain are much older, in evolutionary terms... they often win out over the conscious mind. They are very sneaky in convincing the conscious mind to yield to their whims--just think about trying a new restrictive diet and the impulses to cheat. Inner brain clash.

Everyone has these inner brain clashes all the time. The animal impulses within us aren't logical, and we can choose to behave logically--but not everyone will choose to behave logically, not all the time. Not when the illogical impulses are millions of years more powerful. The urge to procreate is outweighed only by the drive to survive. Logic, other elevated forms of thought and more "human" concepts, philosophy, what have you... are much further down on the list.

Not trying to be dark, just trying to illustrate. This is why I am personally a huge fan of trying to live like my ancestors within a modern context as much as possible, eating what my ancestors ate, getting time away from technology out into nature, etc. I think there's a happiness in balancing that inner beast with all the wonders and challenges presented by the rational mind, technology, civilization, etc.

And that's why some good old fashioned, politically incorrect, Tarzan and Jane sex is like a religious experience for me. Being pulled by the hair and dragged back to the cave by that hot alpha male. WHEW.

The balance point for me is behaving logically in the open, and totally indulging that inner beast behind closed doors. It helps immensely to have an understanding of the underlying biological impulses that drive decisions in the dating world, however. Me learning to yield to my man and let him be the boss has transformed our relationship and allowed us to bond emotionally... primally... too. There are positive ways to apply this knowledge.

Edited August 30, 2015 by blackcat777

August 30, 2015

We NO LONGER need men to "provide food, shelter and protection" for us (I know that really bothers a LOT of you, but, oh well). Heck, we no longer even need to have intercourse with any man to become pregnant to have our own babies, thanks to sperm banks, in vitro fertilization, surrogates, ETI (embryo transfer implantation) and individual sperm donors. We have our own careers, make our own money and we provide OUR OWN food, shelter and protection (weapons, self-defense, etc.). So, we basically do NOT need or want men for anything other than..........wait for it...........sexual pleasure and/or companionship.

All these recent develops you mention are entirely irrelevant to our biology. Men and women's psychologies have evolved over hundreds of thousands of years. Our mating instincts are in no way influenced by the existence of the birth control pill or the fact that woman can now provide for themselves.

Of course, we are not just creatures of instinct. Logic also influences our behavior. To a point, we can override our instincts. But our instincts will always still play a role, and absent genetic engineering, it is unlikely that women, in aggregate, will ever want to have sex as indiscriminately as men. If there ever comes a time when a male prostitute can make the same amount of money servicing women as a female prostitute makes servicing men, I will have been proven wrong.

I used evolutionary psychology to explain why women are more selective than men in choosing sex partners. I made no moral prescriptions. I didn't say that they should be more selective. So don't confuse is with ought. However, the fact that women are more selective than men alters the sexual marketplace, and necessarily causes society to make different appraisals of promiscuous men and women. A man who has sex with a different woman (of average attractiveness) each week proves that he is more attractive to women than the average male. A woman who has sex with a different man (of average attractiveness) each week proves that she is less selective than the average woman. There is definitely nothing immoral about being less selective than the average female, but I wouldn't think it is something to brag about either. But a guy who is more attractive than most does have something to brag about (if he is the bragging type).

If men want to still adhere their attitudes and modern way of life to ye ole double standards and ridiculous "biological" excuses that they can [be promiscuous] but women are (*gasp!*) NOT allowed to, because it is such a "turn off" for them and because they can't possibly 'respect' such kinds of women ...then, let them have at it. Mens' archaic attitudes are NOT going to change what we women choose to do with OUR bodies, OUR minds and OUR lives.
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As a man who has no desire to ever be in another monogamous relationship, I am 100% in favor of female promiscuity.

August 30, 2015

I was formerly promiscuous.

I have also :

- gone years at a time without sex as an adult while I was waiting to find the right man. Without feeling sexually frustrated.

- I have NEVER gone out every weekend and been that girl to hook up every time she goes out, I wasn't even like that at my most promiscuous. I wasn't screwwing a different dude every week or every month. Promiscuity isn't as vile as you presume. Some of us werent total ferals about it.

- I have never cheated

- I go out to have drinks with friends and listen to live music at my local most weeks - NEVER do I hook up. Not once.

- I am currently happily abstinent until the right man comes along that I feel could be the One.

So yeah. Some formerly promiscuous gal's like me assign very important values tied to sex. We don't treat sex more flippantly than girls who were never promiscuous....... We regret our promiscuity of the past and are changed people in terms of our sexual habits.

I am not a ho now just because I kind of was during a low point in my life.

I am no more likely to cheat or house an STI ( I've been tested recently)

There really isn't ANY sign to new men I meet that I was once promiscuous.

It wouldn't matter a damn whether you've had one night stands or not to the right man. Anyone who judges you on your past should be out of the door. If they cant handle that you've had a past, then goodbye to them

Edited August 30, 2015 by giblesp

August 30, 2015

As soon as you put a 'number' to what you find acceptable in a partners past, you 're controlling, objectifying and judging them. Jealousy and control come hand in hand, and its an insecure persons way of controlling another, as they themselves feel weak and powerless.

A man judging a woman for her past doesn't see her as an equal, but as a possession that must live up to his expectations.

August 30, 2015

Every time a guy brings up the "biological" excuse and double standard of why it's acceptable for men to act like whores by enjoying and having a lot of sex with different members of the opposite gender but - because of their "biological explanation" - it's NOT acceptable for women to enjoy having sex with different members of the opposite gender because it's "just not biologically plausible or necessary"....I actually have to laugh.

Sorry guys...we're no longer living in the Paleolithic Era. So, regardless of how many times you bring up the "biological explanation" of why this ridiculous double standard exists and why most men are still using this excuse today to justify them being "studs" while calling women "whores" for enjoying the exact same thing that THEY'RE doing, it just doesn't hold water. Seriously.

We NO LONGER need men to "provide food, shelter and protection" for us (I know that really bothers a LOT of you, but, oh well). Heck, we no longer even need to have intercourse with any man to become pregnant to have our own babies, thanks to sperm banks, in vitro fertilization, surrogates, ETI (embryo transfer implantation) and individual sperm donors. We have our own careers, make our own money and we provide OUR OWN food, shelter and protection (weapons, self-defense, etc.). So, we basically do NOT need or want men for anything other than..........wait for it...........sexual pleasure and/or companionship.

If men want to still adhere their attitudes and modern way of life to ye ole double standards and ridiculous "biological" excuses that they can [be promiscuous] but women are (*gasp!*) NOT allowed to, because it is such a "turn off" for them and because they can't possibly 'respect' such kinds of women ...then, let them have at it. Mens' archaic attitudes are NOT going to change what we women choose to do with OUR bodies, OUR minds and OUR lives.

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All that blah blah blah yet you still expect us to hold the door for you.

August 30, 2015

As soon as you put a 'number' to what you find acceptable in a partners past, you 're controlling, objectifying and judging them. Jealousy and control come hand in hand, and its an insecure persons way of controlling another, as they themselves feel weak and powerless.

A man judging a woman for her past doesn't see her as an equal, but as a possession that must live up to his expectations.

I want a girl who has only had sex with boyfriends, or guys she was seriously dating with a view to a long term relationship. Not a woman who has had casual sex and been happy to be a sex object for several guys. (Self-objectification on the woman's part?)

There's no control or jealousy element there, if I found such a girl I would automatically be more trusting of her (having been cheated on previously) and not in the slightest bit controlling of her, not that I would anyway.

August 30, 2015

Not a woman who has had casual sex and been happy to be a sex object for several guys. (Self-objectification on the woman's part?)

Or perhaps they just had fun and amazing mutual sex! or perhaps the MEN were sex objects. Get it?

August 30, 2015

Or perhaps they just had fun and amazing mutual sex! or perhaps the MEN were sex objects. Get it?

Sex is more than that to me, I want a woman who feels the same, sorry!

I need an emotional/romantic connection to lower my trousers. I could go out and drop $1000 on hiring a drop dead gorgeous hooker with 34G boobs who knows what she's doing, and have "fun and amazing" sex with her that no subsequent woman could get near, in a visual stimulation/technique sense.

But it would mean nothing to me without romantic feelings there, so I wouldn't ever do it.

Edited August 30, 2015 by mr_dave

August 30, 2015

As soon as you put a 'number' to what you find acceptable in a partners past, you 're controlling, objectifying and judging them. Jealousy and control come hand in hand, and its an insecure persons way of controlling another, as they themselves feel weak and powerless.

A man judging a woman for her past doesn't see her as an equal, but as a possession that must live up to his expectations.

I think you nailed it.

Men who need to sleep around with loads of women, I guess have the same issues that those promiscuous women who are "emotionally damaged" are deemed to have.

Sleeping around gives validation.

"I can get lots of men or women interested in sleeping with me so I am NOT worthless, I am da man/I am a highly desirable woman."

Men and women who are secure in their sexuality, tend to not care regarding a partner's past, as they are happy with their own sexual prowess and desirability.

Those who are insecure, worry that they will be found wanting.

"He must have slept with all those hot women. Oh, but I am no model, what can I possibly offer him?"

"I have an average dick, those guys, I guess were monsters, what on earth is she hanging about with me for??"

A desire to limit past partners is a form of damage control over jealousy too. She/he only had 5 partners before me, so I can manage the mind movies - 15, 50, 100 - not easily done.

Of course no-one, man or woman wants to be in a relationship with a partner that has no boundaries and given the opportunity will sleep with just about anyone, but sometimes "numbers" per se, give no clue to that mentality, anyone who thinks they do. may be sorely disappointed.

August 30, 2015

Had a few casual encounters ( not more than 10 in a four year span from age 24 to 28) and have now deduced that casual aint for me.

And here we have an example of the huge double standard faced, a young single woman, Leigh, who has labelled herself as "promiscuous" for having <10 casual encounters in 4 years.

I am sure some men are sitting here hypocritically tut tutting, and bargepole is being considered, but to some men that number of casual would be a good month, a good week or even just a good weekend.

Some men may not even consider adding that to their "number" at all and would never in their wildest dreams label themselves as "promiscuous", yet here we have a woman who feels she has to admit to being "promiscuous".

August 30, 2015

Every time a guy brings up the "biological" excuse and double standard of why it's acceptable for men to be [language redacted] enjoying and having a lot of sex with different members of the opposite gender but - because of their "biological explanation" - it's NOT acceptable for women to enjoy having sex with different members of the opposite gender because it's "just not biologically plausible or necessary"....I actually have to laugh.

Sorry guys...we're no longer living in the Paleolithic Era. So, regardless of how many times you bring up the "biological explanation" of why this ridiculous double standard exists and why most men are still using this excuse today to justify them being "studs" while calling women "whores" for enjoying the exact same thing that THEY'RE doing, it just doesn't hold water. Seriously.

We NO LONGER need men to "provide food, shelter and protection" for us (I know that really bothers a LOT of you, but, oh well). Heck, we no longer even need to have intercourse with any man to become pregnant to have our own babies, thanks to sperm banks, in vitro fertilization, surrogates, ETI (embryo transfer implantation) and individual sperm donors. We have our own careers, make our own money and we provide OUR OWN food, shelter and protection (weapons, self-defense, etc.). So, we basically do NOT need or want men for anything other than..........wait for it...........sexual pleasure and/or companionship.

If men want to still adhere their attitudes and modern way of life to ye ole double standards and ridiculous "biological" excuses that they can [be promiscuous] but women are (*gasp!*) NOT allowed to, because it is such a "turn off" for them and because they can't possibly 'respect' such kinds of women ...then, let them have at it. Mens' archaic attitudes are NOT going to change what we women choose to do with OUR bodies, OUR minds and OUR lives.

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This^^^. It's soooo this.

*Man* evolved and learned how to use forks and knives while eating. I suspect, given enough evolutionary time, *Man* can learn these tendencies, too.

Edited August 30, 2015 by a LoveShack.org Moderator

August 30, 2015

I want a girl who has only had sex with boyfriends, or guys she was seriously dating with a view to a long term relationship. Not a woman who has had casual sex and been happy to be a sex object for several guys. (Self-objectification on the woman's part?)

There's no control or jealousy element there, if I found such a girl I would automatically be more trusting of her (having been cheated on previously) and not in the slightest bit controlling of her, not that I would anyway.

self-objectification does not exist.

You can either be a sexual object or a subject. And when a woman chooses to have sex with a man (whatever the reason), she is a subject.

Sexual Subjectification Vs. Objectification: Why We All Need To Learn The Difference (Video)

August 30, 2015

It wouldn't matter a damn whether you've had one night stands or not to the right man. Anyone who judges you on your past should be out of the door. If they cant handle that you've had a past, then goodbye to them

This is just silly and is more a rallying cry for people that don't think than anything else. Everyone has a past. Everyone judges. Judging someone for judging you is still judging. And everyone does a whole lot more judging than that.

Everyone has preferences. Everyone makes life decisions. Not everyone lines up with everyone. And yes, that could be because of choices someone has made, get over it. If you're in a position to pick and choose, than you should. If you're not, well, that's all you. Your life.

For the record, I don't count numbers. I don't ask. I don't dig. But I have gut instincts and my own standards and I'll trust myself to judge what is best for me.

August 30, 2015

We NO LONGER need men to "provide food, shelter and protection" for us (I know that really bothers a LOT of you, but, oh well). Heck, we no longer even need to have intercourse with any man to become pregnant to have our own babies, thanks to sperm banks, in vitro fertilization, surrogates, ETI (embryo transfer implantation) and individual sperm donors. We have our own careers, make our own money and we provide OUR OWN food, shelter and protection (weapons, self-defense, etc.). So, we basically do NOT need or want men for anything other than..........wait for it...........sexual pleasure and/or companionship.

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And why are you under the impression that just cause women suddenly decided to become like this men will be obligated to accept it?

Thank god there are still traditional women out there who accept the beauty of both men and women having their own role in the society.

August 30, 2015

It has nothing to do with biology. Men on an average though this is changing tend to be more practical when it comes to our relationship choices. While some women think they can tame a player most men are under no illusion that we can tame a female player. Like it or not the past does matter to a certain extent. It's why most jobs do a background check and so many other things but somehow this shouldn't apply when it comes to relationships.

There is a saying in some circles that you can't make a certain kind of woman a housewife and a lot of men believe in that. I think many women would serve themselves well if they said you can't make a certain kind of man a faithful husband.

August 30, 2015

As soon as you put a 'number' to what you find acceptable in a partners past, you 're controlling, objectifying and judging them. Jealousy and control come hand in hand, and its an insecure persons way of controlling another, as they themselves feel weak and powerless.

A man judging a woman for her past doesn't see her as an equal, but as a possession that must live up to his expectations.

You're projecting pretty hard there. Next time you attempt to claim what my own motives are, you should try to be more correct, because you aren't even close.

August 30, 2015

I just wanted to touch on an issue here that ultimately seem to have more bearing on the outcome of my last relationship with a formerly promiscuous woman and see if perhaps someone can shed light on this topic, which seems to have taken a backseat to the discussion of biology. This comment earlier really resonated with what I've been feeling.

Nothing wrong with a woman who sowed her wild oats but it seems that when she wants to settle down the husband material guy never gets to see that side of her. He is lucky if he gets pity sex once a week. If these women would bring out the freak with their husbands then more men would be all for marrying them.

That exact issue completely destroyed my relationship. If I hadn't known about her sexual history and all the wild freaky sex she was into before we became a couple, I would've gotten the impression she was actually relatively "vanilla", and not very interested in sex. But it was impossible to reconcile my partner who has little interest in sex, with the young woman who engaged in a multitude of questionable sexual practices. (experimenting is one thing, but my GF/ex specifically sought out wild and deviant sexual encounters for the thrill of the experience)

This comment earlier seemed to reflect the female version of this same logic.

...I don't indulge or enjoy " Hoe " like activities and therefore, no normal guy would think I promiscuous girl. Because I am not one.

What you do in your past doesn't mean you're participating in the SAME activities you engaged in previously.

So then I guess I have to ask, (although I personally don't consider having 10 one night stands over the course of four years to make you qualified to speak on behalf of promiscuous women) now that you have reformed your lifestyle and changed your attitudes about sexuality, do you think you still give a partner the same sorts of sexual experiences you gave to men in the past or do you feel like you have a "been there done that" attitude about sex now?

I can't express enough how frustrating and emotionally draining it is for man when his partner stands behind statements like...

"I'm just not into that anymore, sure I enjoyed doing X, Y and Z with other men in the past, (many of whom were casual hookups) but now I've changed, and I'm only interested in having a "normal sex life" so i'm sorry if you feel like you're missing out, but all that wild and freaky sex I was having was just a phase, and from that I learned that what I really want is "vanilla sex" with my boyfriend"

But when we hear those kind of statements it's absolutely heart-wrenching. When I hear her say things like that, this is what I'm actually hearing her say

"I enjoyed having all that wild freaky sex with men in the past because they weren't my boyfriend, so I was allowed to be wild and freaky and indulge in all my deepest desires and fantasies, but I view you as the stable provider, and therefore I have no interest in having wild and crazy sex with you. So some guy who I hardly knew got to experience sexual things with me that I will never share with you. Everyone else got the whole enchilada, but you'll never get more than the crumbs. Those relationships however fleeting, we're only about sex, and that's why they got to experience ALL of my sexuality. But this relationship is about stability, so you will never get to experience that side of me. I've changed and that means you get to carry baggage of my past promiscuity without ever being able to enjoy the benefits."

Now it should be pretty self-evident why that sort of logic is difficult for a man to except. I'm reminded of a post that I created several months ago when I was trying to understand why my formerly promiscuous girlfriend was almost completely uninterested in sex with me and many of the sexual acts she had enjoyed and described as her most satisfying sexual encounters were all things that were off-limits in our relationship. There's nothing quite as painful as hearing your partner describe all the depraved things they used to be into, and then in the next breath telling you that they don't want to do anything like that with you.

August 30, 2015

Makes sense that you'd want to assess values /compatibility with someone to ascertain long-term potential, but why would anything they'd have done in their past, before they enter your life, make a difference to how you see them now?

My 2nd BF was a drug user before we met. He'd told me he was into drugs but didn't elaborate, and I didn't ask at the time. Later in the R it transpired from getting to know him and his family better that he was actually a fairly heavy hard drug user. He didn't want to tell me b/c he thought I'd run a mile. It wouldn't have made a difference had I known when we'd met, it didn't make a difference when I found out, and it still makes no difference in how I remember him now. All that mattered to me is that he was clean when we got together and he remained clean during all our time together. We had other issues but his past wasn't one of them.

I feel the same way about any of my partners' past, be it number of sexual partners, drug use, eating habits or anything else. If I'm attracted to someone as they are now, what they are now is what matters to me; short of really, really seriously bad stuff (anything involving kids or extreme violence / abuse), I don't really need to know. It's actually quite liberating.

Don't care about biological explanations or any other type of rationale.

August 30, 2015

Sex is more than that to me, I want a woman who feels the same, sorry!
I need an emotional/romantic connection to lower my trousers. I could go out and drop $1000 on hiring a drop dead gorgeous hooker with 34G boobs who knows what she's doing, and have "fun and amazing" sex with her that no subsequent woman could get near, in a visual stimulation/technique sense.
But it would mean nothing to me without romantic feelings there, so I wouldn't ever do it.

Umm and sex is more than that to me too.

Just because I went through a promiscuous phase, that doesn't dictate how I view sex NOW.

In fact, my promiscuous phase served to make me realise how AWFUL sex without a strong emotional connection and outside s loving relationship is!!!

I was once promiscuous. And yet I am not promiscuous anymore.

I no longer have FWB. I don't have casual sex. And I feel sex is only something I feel like indulging in within the context of a living relationship.

So... What a woman does in her past DOES NOT necessarily mean she still has a " " promiscuous girls " outlook on sex and love.

August 30, 2015

Promiscuity is all too common these days, and I don't want other people thinking they can just be "abstinent" for a few days and regain their purity.

Hey I don't think that what you "want" other people to think actually has any pertinence at all!! This is YOUR personal opinion and you are welcome to it!!!

Sex is sacred, and seeing people treat it as just a fun thing to do after a long day with new friends is just repulsive. Absolutely no offense intended, but [promiscuity] irritates me.

YOU think it's sacred, YOU think it's repulsive, that doesn't make it so. I am perplexed why other people's sex lives has the power to irritate you though. What does that have to do with you? This is the problem I think, WHY some folks think that being sanctimonious and judgmental of what others do in their sex and love lives is "normal" and appropriate!

:confused:

August 30, 2015

Evolutionary psychology predicts that women should be more discriminating than men in choosing sex partners. Males have the biological potential to father hundreds of children per year, while females can only mother one child per year. So it makes sense that men and women would evolve different mating strategies. For males, reproductive success depends on quantity of sexual partners. For females, reproductive success depends on quality of sex partners.

oh brother. I am sorry but I think alot of us have evolved to the point where we don't use the biological urges of primitive humans or other mammals to explain or excuse the behavior of modern men and women. Sorry but I think that is so super lame!!!!

Because of males' greater appetite for NSA sex, a man who has sex with a different partner every week, whose physical attractiveness is equal to his own, will always be looked at differently than a female who does the same thing. He is doing something that most other men would like to do, but can't, while she is doing something that most other women could do, but don't want to. Consequently, he is looked up to and called a stud, while she is looked down upon. The double standard is not caused by sexism, but by market dynamics.

Oh yeah, I have read this kind of comedy before around here and mostly on so-called PUA websites! :lmao: What does "whose physical attractiveness is equal to his own" have to do with this anyway?!?! :confused: Anyway, yes, it's sexism. Don't be scared to call it what it is!! :) You are embracing it wholeheartedly!! Anyway, you just go ahead and buy into all this, it's not hurting anybody except maybe you. Personally I will make up my own mind about how human beings express their sexuality and I assure you that alot of other smart and happening men and women are doing the same thing as I am! :bunny:

August 30, 2015

So yeah. Some formerly promiscuous gal's like me assign very important values tied to sex. We don't treat sex more flippantly than girls who were never promiscuous....... We regret our promiscuity of the past and are changed people in terms of our sexual habits..

Leigh you don't need to defend the way you have lived your life to these guys on here or to anybody, if they can't accept you the way you are they are not for you. You should stop.

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