Rejected Rosebud Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I just don't want more and more women growing up with your attitudes which means less women men like me want to marry What does how girls grow up have to do with YOU??:confused: 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rejected Rosebud Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 that she is easy to charm and romance to share herself ?? Maybe she was just feeling lusty that night and picked out the most attractive guy? This doesn't mean anybody charmed and romanced her ... Men are buyers and women are sellers I think there are threads about that around here but in MY relationship my bf is not BUYING me, gross. Sex is not a commodity but a shared experience for somebody who has earned it If I feel like having sex how do I earn it?? I agree with everybody else here who says that somebody's "number" is not their business. I do agree that having compatible attitudes towards sex is important. Slut shaming, I'm really sure, is not going to lead anywhere good. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
trippi1432 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Equal thinking means you listen to the woman and her view points and if you disagree you don't change your view point of it upsets her, because you have your own mind. I don't care what type of men you date or don't. Just saying most men are not going to date loose women sorry. But in that same respect, women shouldn't date loose men. I mean, if a man is all about his "bed post" numbers game (unfair but fair??)...why would a woman ever think that sort of man would be loyal to them? I actually see a bit of the equal footing here. If I were a man, I'd just take what I could get...but I would want that woman at the end of the day I could count on. Problem is...the 40's set in and they are missing that bachelor lifestyle of their numbers and the "nice" girl who wasn't promiscuous finds herself divorced...at middle age. I mean, honestly, that is a consideration that if you (a man) involves himself with a woman who has had multiple lovers over her lifetime...she has the propensity not to be a good wife. The same applies for a promiscuous man in my mind. Link to post Share on other sites
Gaeta Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 that's not marriage material sorry. hhmm what do you know about marriage material? In the list of things a woman needs to be 'good marriage material' your last worry should be her men count. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Rejected Rosebud Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Just like when I see a loose woman I put her in the not marriage category. I.e. Slut and hoe. You started this thread and alot of women have written in it and said that they have had quite a few sex partners, you called one of them "disgusting" and now you are calling everybody "Slut" and "HOE" (:lmao:) Do you think this makes you seem like a good man? It really doesn't, it is not okay, we are all supposed to treat each other with respect here. I'm actually surprised you are allowed to do it. :mad: Anyway you made your point now just carry on. Good luck you will need it super bad!!! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Rejected Rosebud Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 He's not the one bitching. I think he has done the most bitching of any person on this thread by FAR!! 5 Link to post Share on other sites
William Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 OK, the thread starter has been officially advised that using derogatory language regarding men or women is not acceptable here and to cease and desist. Anyone else that does it after this post gets suspended. Same with calling people trolls. We're adults here. High time we all act like it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rejected Rosebud Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I'm not sure who does the most shaming these days, the guys shaming women for sleeping around, or the women who shame men for not wanting to be with a woman that sleeps around. The men of course since they are derogatorily labeling the women as SLUTS. Everybody needs to date who they want and who they are comfortable with!!! Nowhere in that parameter does calling women who enjoy their own personal sexuality with a variety of partners SLUTS come into play! I'm 24 and I have had sex with 2 guys. I know many people in my age range who enjoy recreational sex when they feel like it. By this time of life I really don't know of anybody who would even ask for a number. It's just unheard of to me!!! I know one girl who was rejected because she had sex with too many guys, not a single one. Sheesh if you find someone who you really really like and the feeling's mutual why would anybody want to wreck it because of that?? :confused: Link to post Share on other sites
HereNorThere Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) Just never ask someone's number and you never have to worry. 11 people for a 29 year old is pretty low. Should she dump you because you haven't been very successful in dating? You think 11 people is respectable, but most people would probably think it's kind of pathetic. Are you worried that she'll judge you for not being very good with the ladies? Dude, chicks can sleep with 100 guys a day if they want. They don't even have to leave the house. It's literally like ordering a pizza for them. Don't get jealous that it's not as easy for men, just accept it. You'd probably rack up a few numbers if half the people you've met in your life were willing to sleep with you. Edited August 25, 2015 by HereNorThere Link to post Share on other sites
Maleficent Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Guys , you can justify the slut shaming all you want. I will not argue that you can choose to date or not date someone because of your 'values' because I do the same. But realize that the only people negatively affected by this are yourselves. In the end, women who enjoy sex and can differenciate between sex and emotional attachment will always find men who want to sleep with them and men who want to date them/marry them. Finding women who will not be turned off by your sexist view of sexuality will prove to be more difficult. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
lino Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 The uncomfortable trips to Walmart where your woman has numerous different guys she has been with come up and say hi...All the different former FWB's messaging her on social media...the list goes on. No thanks, I'll pass. This is the part that men dread. Absolute nightmare scenario to show up at a party where your girl knows more of the people than you do and half the guys she's saying hi to have had their d#ck in her. No thank you!! How anyone cannot see that is disgusting to the partner of someone they feel special to is beyond me. Maybe because women value men that get around so highly, they simply cannot see it? I can't think of another explanation. And to be clear, I'm not a guy that has gotten around a lot so I'm not hypocritical about this. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Maleficent Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Why is it slut shaming to not want to date a woman who has slept around? Is it poor shaming if a woman doesn't want to date a broke guy? Bald shaming if they don't want to date a bald guy? I will make a mental note of this. Please explain to me how I am negatively affected by my views on this? I have an awesome GF already. I have benefited greatly by my dating standards. Maybe not all men want a woman who can have sex without any emotional attachment. I think sex should be emotional, and the fact that a woman can have sex with multiple guys without emotional attachment is one of the biggest reasons why I don't date them. Ah, so now our preferences make us sexist. It appears we do have a derogatory title for men who prefer to date women who have not slept around. Funny how it's ok to call a guy a sexist, but not ok to call a woman the "S" word. Not wanting to date a woman because she has different views on sexuality is one thing. It's another to not want to date a woman because she is a slut for having a different view of sexuality than you. I did not say you were sexist, I said the view of sexuality was sexist because Saying men can have all the sex they want when women can't because they are women is sexist. By definition. Note that I didn't quote you specifically... When I said it would affect you negatively, I was using a general you. Cause you know, I.did.nit.even.quote.you. Basically, all I'm saying is having this attitude will make some women not interested in (general) you. So don't complain when you're having dating troubles when you are basically calling women sluts for enjoying sex. (General you) If men can pass me off as undateable because "too many partners because values" I can sure as hell pass men off as undateable for having a negative attitude towards my sexuality "because values". 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lady2163 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Soooo.....I know I'm old, but I've been having sex longer than the OP has been alive. I've had two seven year relationships, one two year relationship and a couple others that were shorter where I was totally monogamous. Yet, when I'm single. I'm single. I've probably been to close to 200 orgies or swingers parties. Sometimes I've played at the parties, sometimes I haven't. I have never been pregnant, have never had a disease. I have in my adult life had probably 30 bladder infections or yeast infections, but I also like swimming and hot tubs. To the best of my recollection, I've never had either of those when I've been promiscuous. Am I a slut when I'm single? Eh, maybe. Do I care if a 20 or 30 something *thinks* I am? Not so much. Come talk to me when you have had 16 years or so of being single. I bring a lot to the table in a relationship. I may be an old, fat woman, but I'm loyal and monogamous when a commitment is made. I'm probably a whole lot more comfortable with my body and sexuality than a 20 something woman is. I have great communication skills in and out of the bedroom. I make really good money. I don't have drama, nor do I get sucked into drama. Older men (over 45) who discover how long I've been single don't usually ask the number question. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Maleficent Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 No one here is saying they want to make it illegal for women to have all the sex they want. No one is trying to stop them. It isn't a matter of who can f*ck who, it's a matter of us not wanting to date those women, that's all. I never said anything about legality. But making it a society standard for women to not have too much sex because they are wimen is sexist. I chose to use myself an an example since I do not date women who sleep around. Out of all my dating guidelines, I have benefited the most from that one. By far. Good for you I guess. But considering the number of men on here who complain they are having trouble with women, I'd say it is relevant whether or not it applies to you personally. Again, my point is if men can refuse to date a woman for having different views on sexuality, woman can do the same. Nit sure why I still have to debate that point. I would argue that my dating life has greatly benefited from keeping slut shamers at bay. So, women who sleep around won't want to have sex with men, because I'm not interested in women who sleep around? Again, I am unable to see the negative here. Also, a woman does not have to sleep around to enjoy sex. They can still enjoy sex without having to share that enjoyment with a ton of different dudes. I enjoy pizza, but I don't stop at every carry-out and gas station that has pizza because I enjoy it so much. Women who enjoy sex don't necessarily have sex with every single men that wants to have sex with them. And again, you have your standards, I have mine. They don't want to date you and you don't want to date them. It works out. It does. Answers in bold Link to post Share on other sites
mrldii Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 For the record (and I can not stress this enough) I don't give a fat flying f*ck who some/many/most/all of the men in this thread/in this world will or will not have sex with and/or for what reasons they will or will not do it. My posts have challenged the OP's premise that "most" men won't have sex with women (i.e., "loose" "slut" "hoes") like me. Every single man with whom I have had sex - which includes the two who married me and the three who wanted to marry me - have had nooooooo problem with My Number, which, according to OP, is outrageously high. If he is correct in his premise, then he has proven himself to be wrong as - according to him - I have been with many, many, many men...ergo, by his own labeling of me, "most" men apparently don't support his hypothesis. Can't have it both ways, boyz. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites
trippi1432 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Why is it slut shaming to not want to date a woman who has slept around? Is it poor shaming if a woman doesn't want to date a broke guy? Bald shaming if they don't want to date a bald guy? I will make a mental note of this. Please explain to me how I am negatively affected by my views on this? I have an awesome GF already. I have benefited greatly by my dating standards. Maybe not all men want a woman who can have sex without any emotional attachment. I think sex should be emotional, and the fact that a woman can have sex with multiple guys without emotional attachment is one of the biggest reasons why I don't date them. Ah, so now our preferences make us sexist. It appears we do have a derogatory title for men who prefer to date women who have not slept around. Funny how it's ok to call a guy a sexist, but not ok to call a woman the "S" word. Enigma...you bring up a very good point...what are men doing these days to change that sexist view of them? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jay1983 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Nobody's forcing women to date or be attracted to men who sleep around. That's a personal choice. Society is this way because of preference. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
trippi1432 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Are men being celibate?? Saving themselves for the right woman? I think that is a fair question. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
trippi1432 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Nobody's forcing women to date or be attracted to men who sleep around. That's a personal choice. Society is this way because of preference. Quid pro quo Link to post Share on other sites
Maleficent Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Nobody's forcing women to date or be attracted to men who sleep around. That's a personal choice. Society is this way because of preference. And men aren't forced to be attracted to women who "sleep around". It's nothing more than incompatibility. No need to demean them or consider them of lesser value because of it. Cars lose value with mileage. Humans don't. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
jay1983 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Are men being celibate?? Saving themselves for the right woman? I think that is a fair question. If women start rejecting them for not being celibate, then things "ll change. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Maleficent Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 If women start rejecting them for not being celibate, then things "ll change. Let's not go back to that "having sex outside of marriage" is bad for everyone mentality...that never works.... Link to post Share on other sites
trippi1432 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 If women start rejecting them for not being celibate, then things "ll change. Well thank you for explaining why I choose how I do..lol! I'd prefer to be with a man who hasn't etched his name in a bedpost, but let's really face reality. Why are we here slut-shaming? Inherently, it's in a woman's past and what men were led to believe............old values. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
trippi1432 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I can't speak for others here, so I will just give my opinion. Personally, I was a bit of a hopeless romantic when I was younger. I did actually save myself for a girl that I thought was the right person. I was young and stupid, and at the time, incapable of distinguishing decent women from the crappy ones. She was a crappy one. I admit I have a double standard when it comes to this issue. If I am a single guy and I haven't gotten laid in a while, and have not met a girl that I feel is relationship material for me, I will sleep with a random girl. Even so, I would happily wager that my standards for that sort of thing are much higher than most people's. I just don't have any interest in dating women that have slept around. I have done so before, and I have no desire to repeat the experience. If a woman refused to date me because of the amount of women I have been with, I could accept that. It's her choice. Thing is, I have never met a woman that really gave a crap. They seem to prefer guys that sleep around. This is one of many double standards in dating. Even though I have slept around a bit, I only date women who have not done so. There are also a ton of fat girls who refuse to date fat guys, women with good careers that still expect a man to pay for her on a date, ect, ect. But you let that one person set your standards that you set for any woman? Link to post Share on other sites
trippi1432 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) There are also a ton of fat girls who refuse to date fat guys, women with good careers that still expect a man to pay for her on a date, ect, ect. You are taking the thread off topic...let's not do that....when the OP decides to come back I'm sure he will have lots to say Edited August 25, 2015 by trippi1432 Corrected 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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