Toodaloo Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Yeah I know. The title is more shocking than the topic... I read an article. I will see if I can find it on line so I can post a link. However the article was talking about a study in relationships and followed some men and women over the course of 20 - 30 years. During that time they discovered that the women who did not have the opportunity to find a quality mate would turn to their own sex for companionship and love. Men were far less fluid and got angry. The women basically got fed up with only having males that they found undesirable, angry, bitter, overtly aggressive etc so instead of staying "straight" found love with their own sex. Middle aged women (if I remember rightly) who were childless were far more likely to do this if they could not find a suitable male mate. Made me laugh as there are probably all these men scratching their heads trying to find a woman and being an a-hole about it. Meanwhile women are taking care of their own and turning gay... Yes I am using generalisations etc and yes there will always be individual choices etc. The floor is open to discussion... what do you think? If you were a straight woman and couldn't find a suitable male to be your mate would you consider going pink? If you are a man how do you think about it all. Would you consider sticking with team blue instead? Link to post Share on other sites
Revolver Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Those women were always bisexual. The low "quality" of men didn't suddenly make them like girls. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Frank2thepoint Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Those low quality men were chosen by these women. Nothing coerced those women to pursue those men. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Keenly Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 There are quality men everywhere. These women just aren't attracted to a quality man, and therefore never date any. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Imported Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Where is this "study"? Sounds like some girl talk over a few cosmos posted on some girls facebook page and presented as a "study". 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Toodaloo Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 Women more likely to be bisexual, study finds - Telegraph Took me a while to find it. I got some bits wrong. But the whole point is that women are choosing NOT to settle for poor quality men and instead are utilising their ability to be more fluid with their sexuality and choosing a quality woman when not quality men are available. Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden2 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 If you were a straight woman and couldn't find a suitable male to be your mate would you consider going pink? Nope. never crossed my mind, and never will. If you are a man how do you think about it all. Would you consider sticking with team blue instead? Going by many comments in this forum, it's possible many already do... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I suspect that the reason there are more bisexual women than men is because it's more socially acceptable for women to be bisexual. So more of them wear the badge proudly instead of remaining in the closet. I don't think straight women should pair up with women if they're only attracted to men - that's not fair to the other woman who might be genuinely bisexual/lesbian! Can't have a real R if you're not attracted to the person, no matter how good they are on paper. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Imported Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Women more likely to be bisexual, study finds - Telegraph Took me a while to find it. I got some bits wrong. . Yes, you did. Like everything in your title. Link to post Share on other sites
GorillaTheater Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I think there may be some pride to be taken in being able to tell people "yes, after she broke up with me, she promptly became a member of a radical lesbian terrorist group." 1 Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Women more likely to be bisexual, study finds - Telegraph Took me a while to find it. I got some bits wrong. But the whole point is that women are choosing NOT to settle for poor quality men and instead are utilising their ability to be more fluid with their sexuality and choosing a quality woman when not quality men are available. I would never enter a love relationship with a woman because I am not attracted to women. Even if there were no more men on this planet I wouldn't want a woman. I don't understand there not being any more quality men on this planet to the point a woman would choose another woman. Why does she have to have anyone at all if that's the case? I guess men could say the same thing about there not being enough quality women so they had to turn to another man. Link to post Share on other sites
PrettyEmily77 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 If you are a man how do you think about it all. Would you consider sticking with team blue instead? Can't begin to imagine any guy admitting to being 'low quality' for a start, whatever that means - especially not on LS, where apparently the ratio of quality to non quality men is 100 to nil . As a straight woman, I've never had trouble finding what I would define as quality men, as friends, colleagues, family members or other (the BF being the best of the crop, obvs ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
autumnnight Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Sorry, I just cannot imagine any reality in which I would be attracted to a woman "that way." If the world really was devoid of decent men, I'd just buy a lot of batteries. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
central Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 But the whole point is that women are choosing NOT to settle for poor quality men and instead are utilising their ability to be more fluid with their sexuality and choosing a quality woman when not quality men are available. If that works for them and they're happy, great. It has no impact on my life, so I don't see why I should care. They've got options due to sexual fluidity. Good for them. The flip side of this is that some of those women may not be quality choices themselves, so don't attract quality men. There is a significant minority of both men and women who are not quality choices, and they are unlikely to find good or lasting "typical" relationships, if they find any relationship at all. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Imported Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 But the whole point is that women are choosing NOT to settle for poor quality men and instead are utilising their ability to be more fluid with their sexuality and choosing a quality woman when not quality men are available. There was absolutely nothing in what you linked that said anything about "low quality men". 3 Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 what do you think? I think exploring any latent bi-sexuality or lesbian tendencies is a valid choice. Relationships are what we make of them. I support women's choices in this regard. Life is brief. Enjoy it to the full. In fact, I'd take men out of the equation entirely and not even consider whether or not men are of general poor quality. Do what works best for oneself. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Noideanow Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 The correlation i see is that those women cant find a man because they look for a man that is a woman:cool: all the rest of the women-fascinated women are married to men:cool: that makes it difficult for a heterosexual woman to find a heterosexual man (not married), there are plenty of gay men out there though;) Link to post Share on other sites
PrettyEmily77 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I suspect that the reason there are more bisexual women than men is because it's more socially acceptable for women to be bisexual. So more of them wear the badge proudly instead of remaining in the closet. I don't think straight women should pair up with women if they're only attracted to men - that's not fair to the other woman who might be genuinely bisexual/lesbian! Can't have a real R if you're not attracted to the person, no matter how good they are on paper. Yeah, I agree with that. I suspect bi women go for bi / lesbian women because they want to, regardless of the quality of men, and it's now easier to be open about it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mrldii Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 No, I would not Go Team Pink if I found myself in this hypothetical situation. I'd simply get myself some cats...lots and lots of cats. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Pull n Pray Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) This makes sense to me. Men and women look to relationships with the opposite sex to fulfill both their physical needs and emotional needs. But with men, the physical needs take priority. With women, the emotional needs take priority. If a man can't get dates with women, he will likely turn to porn and prostitution. If a woman can't get dates with men, she may turn to other women. Perhaps this partly explains why, in general, male homosexuals are so much more attractive than lesbians. Edited August 26, 2015 by Pull n Pray 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Toodaloo Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 There was absolutely nothing in what you linked that said anything about "low quality men". The study found romantic opportunities appear to influence the sexual identity of women - but not men. "However, women with the same sexual attractions, but less favourable heterosexual options might have greater opportunity to experiment with same-sex partners." One can only assume that as there are so many men they must be presenting a poor quality rather than poor quantity in the vast majority of areas... I admit I have dabbled in the past out of curiosity however, decided after trying, that actually it was men all the way for me. I have not been tempted to go back there. However I also do recognise that a part of me is attracted to women. I like looking at women in porn etc. I can look at a woman and see sexual things about her. I find women attractive even if I do not feel the desire to act upon that. So if I were not getting the occasional half decent date as I am, then I started to think, would I? The answer has to be possibly. Leaving the result that one woman who is predominately hetro could well decide to allow that slither of homo to take over and more fool the hetro male population for missing out simply because they are not cottoning on to principles such as mutual trust, dignity and respect... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Toodaloo Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 I'd simply get myself some cats...lots and lots of cats. I already have dogs... a lot of dogs!!! It doesn't help much... The AA batteries do though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpybutfun Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I think there may be some pride to be taken in being able to tell people "yes, after she broke up with me, she promptly became a member of a radical lesbian terrorist group." Personally, if I had a Facebook page, that would be the only news worth posting. "Due to my lack of quality, my gf just became a lesbian with our dog walker then joined a terrorist group to rid the world of poor quality men." What other news is there, really? G 5 Link to post Share on other sites
jen1447 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Yeah I know. The title is more shocking than the topic... I read an article. I will see if I can find it on line so I can post a link. However the article was talking about a study in relationships and followed some men and women over the course of 20 - 30 years. During that time they discovered that the women who did not have the opportunity to find a quality mate would turn to their own sex for companionship and love. Men were far less fluid and got angry. The women basically got fed up with only having males that they found undesirable, angry, bitter, overtly aggressive etc so instead of staying "straight" found love with their own sex. Middle aged women (if I remember rightly) who were childless were far more likely to do this if they could not find a suitable male mate. Made me laugh as there are probably all these men scratching their heads trying to find a woman and being an a-hole about it. Meanwhile women are taking care of their own and turning gay... Yes I am using generalisations etc and yes there will always be individual choices etc. The floor is open to discussion... what do you think? If you were a straight woman and couldn't find a suitable male to be your mate would you consider going pink? If you are a man how do you think about it all. Would you consider sticking with team blue instead? I'll reiterate some of what's already been said (as an insider on team pink lol) - any woman who turns to women, no matter the reason, was already bisexual. I doubt "low quality men" influence a woman's innate sexuality. I suppose it's possible that a woman who believed she was utterly straight might switch teams due to frustration, but I really do believe she was bi all along regardless. And frustration with men might lead her to switch more quickly, but I don't believe it would be a wholesale change - she was bi on some level already and felt pushed to switch. Other thing is that ime most women actually do have bisexual tendencies, so it seems like it would be much easier for a woman to make that transition than a man in general. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpybutfun Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I think exploring any latent bi-sexuality or lesbian tendencies is a valid choice. Relationships are what we make of them. I support women's choices in this regard. Life is brief. Enjoy it to the full. In fact, I'd take men out of the equation entirely and not even consider whether or not men are of general poor quality. Do what works best for oneself. Yes. Personal choice and getting what you need out of a relationship sometimes becomes more important than societal expectations or roles. When the idealist dies a slow death over the years, pragmatism and practicality and novelty would be appealing to some who haven't received much care from their partner. I think it is interesting too to note that many of these women are looking for affection, being valued and caregiving which men sometimes are in short supply of. As my daughter likes to say, love doesn't care what external bits people have...sometimes the emotional bond can turn into something more. It is interesting having a daughter who dates women...the dynamics are about nurturing and acceptance in a way I never considered. It makes me think about love and relationships differently. Best, G 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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