whichwayisup Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Im trying to stop. Im addicted to online dating. I cannot be the only one? I doubt you're the only one... Question is, what are you going to do to stop? Can you stop, do you want to stop before MORE damage is done to you? Are you willing to seek counseling, fix "you" so you can be in a healthy relationship with a great guy who will love only you and not lie/manipulate/be a cheater? What are you actively doing to try to stop? Link to post Share on other sites
Didn'tKnowIt Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Please don't feed into this OPs story with your own. The OP has been (for years) continually seeking out unavailable men, believing they were her soulmate and savior. Only to be shat upon. Not sure of your story, but am guessing it's not the same. This post isn't about you. I'm not feeding into her story with my own. The MM who lied to me was held accountable for his actions and I've since gotten married. These are general observations. Even if the OP continues to seek out unavailable men, each and every one are responsible and accountable for engaging her. Intentional actions have consequences; even unintentional actions have consequences. It makes no sense to tell the OP that she has to own up to and live with the consequences of her actions while simultaneously claiming that the men who engage her aren't accountable for or don't have to live with the consequences of that choice. She wouldn't have to agonize over whether to contact a MM's wife if she didn't engage him AND if he and various other unavailable men didn't intentionally engage her as well. We're all held accountable for and are responsible for the choices we make. That's life. Link to post Share on other sites
Lurkeraspect Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I'm not feeding into her story with my own. The MM who lied to me was held accountable for his actions and I've since gotten married. These are general observations. Even if the OP continues to seek out unavailable men, each and every one are responsible and accountable for engaging her. Intentional actions have consequences; even unintentional actions have consequences. It makes no sense to tell the OP that she has to own up to and live with the consequences of her actions while simultaneously claiming that the men who engage her aren't accountable for or don't have to live with the consequences of that choice. She wouldn't have to agonize over whether to contact a MM's wife if she didn't engage him AND if he and various other unavailable men didn't intentionally engage her as well. We're all held accountable for and are responsible for the choices we make. That's life. So happy life has worked out in your favor. However, you're doing the OP no favor not reading, understating her post. Again, this isn't about you. Please read objectively. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Author so gutted Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 I'm not feeding into her story with my own. The MM who lied to me was held accountable for his actions and I've since gotten married. These are general observations. Even if the OP continues to seek out unavailable men, each and every one are responsible and accountable for engaging her. Intentional actions have consequences; even unintentional actions have consequences. It makes no sense to tell the OP that she has to own up to and live with the consequences of her actions while simultaneously claiming that the men who engage her aren't accountable for or don't have to live with the consequences of that choice. She wouldn't have to agonize over whether to contact a MM's wife if she didn't engage him AND if he and various other unavailable men didn't intentionally engage her as well. We're all held accountable for and are responsible for the choices we make. That's life. There is the MM 1 and This latest divorced one who led me on for a month and disappeared. We were supposed to meet on fri but he didnt confirm or cancel, silence since. Im really hurt but also wondering why he did this? Is there A way to find out without looking desperate. He did chase me for a month.. Link to post Share on other sites
Author so gutted Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 Do you have close, single, female friends? If not (or they are all men obsessed) focus on that. Rather than searching for a man, search for friends. Have interests & hobbies together. Have fun! Have therapy. Set a timeline. eg No serious dating for 6months - 1 year. You can go to dinner or dancing but NO talk of marriage or long term stuff. NO talking of past pain!! Just fun. I know that you're lonely. I know you want a husband but "Until death us do part" is a bloody long time if you marry the wrong man!! Find female friends & have fun. Find great interests that fill your time (& give you things to talk about) you will find that if your life is FULL, any man that's less than perfect (for you) will be easy to walk away from...because they're stealing time you could be enjoying with your friends! I don't think there's anything wrong with going on lots of dates. Meeting new people can be interesting. EVERY DATE is NOT an AUDITION for a HUSBAND!! I have female friends. I am going out but the hurt is still there... Most of them are getting married soon. Link to post Share on other sites
Redhead14 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 There is the MM 1 and This latest divorced one who led me on for a month and disappeared. We were supposed to meet on fri but he didnt confirm or cancel, silence since. Im really hurt but also wondering why he did this? Is there A way to find out without looking desperate. He did chase me for a month.. without looking desperate -- you might be able to do that if YOU WEREN'T ACTUALLY DESPERATE. I'm going to be harsh . . . he disappeared likely because he was sensing your desperation. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
scorpiogirl Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I have female friends. I am going out but the hurt is still there... Most of them are getting married soon. What hurt??? How can you be hurt by someone you barely know? What's wrong with you? Stop! You're not hurt. You haven't had a functional relationship probably ever. You don't seem to grow at all. You don't even see how twisted the whole thing is. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Got it Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 OP - the sad thing is you don't even see the red flags when they are in your face. In fact you see the red flags as big old green ones that mean all systems go! A guy who is coming on so hard and fast in such a short amount of time, a month, who is ALREADY talking marriage, should have sent your gut on full alert. That is not NORMAL or healthy. That is a major sign. But you see it as honky dory. That is where you aren't calibrated either. I am sorry but I disagree about any focus on these other guys. They are obviously interchangeable as see in just this thread. It is about them. It is about the OP. She is continuing to repeat the same script time and time again that I would argue most likely goes back to her childhood. She is trying to seek someone's approval and will go through these characters repeating it until things change. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. It doesn't happen. You are broken. You are not healthy. You are emotional sick. I say that not as hit but to try and get you to start to focus on you. You need help. You need extensive help. And you will continue to be unhappy, alone, and empty until you start to learn to take ownership for your life and for your actions and feelings. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author so gutted Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 without looking desperate -- you might be able to do that if YOU WEREN'T ACTUALLY DESPERATE. I'm going to be harsh . . . he disappeared likely because he was sensing your desperation. I could not have acted desperate, HE mentioned marriage in the future.,., so HE should explain why he said this more then once... Link to post Share on other sites
georgia girl Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 So gutted, I'm going to only say this one time, so please listen carefully. THERE ARE NO (AND I MEAN NO) CONTRACTS IN DATING. What does that mean? That means that he owed you nothing, you owed him nothing and you got yourself attached WAY too fast. You were barely even dating. If he disappears after a month, you weren't the girl for him. That's how the cookie crumbles and genuinely, that's why we all date. It's like trying on shoes. You see them, think they're adorable, put them on and they pinch, or they don't match the outfit just right or the heel is too high and you put them back. Doesn't mean they aren't still adorable, but they're not the ones for you. Please get some girlfriends who don't tell you to just get married. Get some girlfriends who encourage you to explore yourself, have fun, meet interesting people and to show a whole lot more restraint when dating. You meet someone, picture yourself in a white dress and in happily ever after land and it's all over for you. Meanwhile, I gotta think you are scaring the absolute living snot out of these guys. A true friend who talk to you about setting healthy boundaries and expectations around dating. A true friend would slow you down and help you realize that getting a ring isn't the ultimate goal in life. You need to stop dating altogether for awhile. Until you can reset your expectations in a healthy way, you are going to experience the same disappointment over and over again. And I fear that disappointment is just going to get more and more severe. Think about it. You were seeing someone for a month and you're making statements that he's cruel, led you on, owes you an explanation, etc. Why? You dated a month. He doesn't owe you anything. Please get some perspective. This anger and angst doesn't go away on its own. If the only folks around you are the ones who have the same perspective as you, try to find some outside mentor. A woman who has a healthier life outlook. You can't go on this way. Or at least, you can but you certainly won't ever get into a healthy long-term relationship acting this way. Good luck. I feel badly for you. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Got it Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I could not have acted desperate, HE mentioned marriage in the future.,., so HE should explain why he said this more then once... You were acting desperate for not seeing that a major red flag and instead as this super wonderful thing. How do you not see that? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popsicle Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 There is the MM 1 and This latest divorced one who led me on for a month and disappeared. We were supposed to meet on fri but he didnt confirm or cancel, silence since. Im really hurt but also wondering why he did this? Is there A way to find out without looking desperate. He did chase me for a month.. You should be posting about the new guy in the dating section, because people will mistake him for married when posting in this section. This sounds like a dating issue and over there ghosting happens from time to time and they can talk to you and commiserate with you about it. Link to post Share on other sites
Author so gutted Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 So gutted, I'm going to only say this one time, so please listen carefully. THERE ARE NO (AND I MEAN NO) CONTRACTS IN DATING. What does that mean? That means that he owed you nothing, you owed him nothing and you got yourself attached WAY too fast. You were barely even dating. If he disappears after a month, you weren't the girl for him. That's how the cookie crumbles and genuinely, that's why we all date. It's like trying on shoes. You see them, think they're adorable, put them on and they pinch, or they don't match the outfit just right or the heel is too high and you put them back. Doesn't mean they aren't still adorable, but they're not the ones for you. Please get some girlfriends who don't tell you to just get married. Get some girlfriends who encourage you to explore yourself, have fun, meet interesting people and to show a whole lot more restraint when dating. You meet someone, picture yourself in a white dress and in happily ever after land and it's all over for you. Meanwhile, I gotta think you are scaring the absolute living snot out of these guys. A true friend who talk to you about setting healthy boundaries and expectations around dating. A true friend would slow you down and help you realize that getting a ring isn't the ultimate goal in life. You need to stop dating altogether for awhile. Until you can reset your expectations in a healthy way, you are going to experience the same disappointment over and over again. And I fear that disappointment is just going to get more and more severe. Think about it. You were seeing someone for a month and you're making statements that he's cruel, led you on, owes you an explanation, etc. Why? You dated a month. He doesn't owe you anything. Please get some perspective. This anger and angst doesn't go away on its own. If the only folks around you are the ones who have the same perspective as you, try to find some outside mentor. A woman who has a healthier life outlook. You can't go on this way. Or at least, you can but you certainly won't ever get into a healthy long-term relationship acting this way. Good luck. I feel badly for you. I hear you, but to tell me stop dating means to tell i to not have kids. How can i have kids without a man, dating leads to all of this.., Thats the consquence of what your suggesting.. Link to post Share on other sites
anika99 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I hear you, but to tell me stop dating means to tell i to not have kids. How can i have kids without a man, dating leads to all of this.., Thats the consquence of what your suggesting.. OMG! Please don't have children until you are healthy enough to choose a suitable partner and father. Did anyone say you should stop dating forever? That you should never be with another man and you should spend the rest of your days on earth alone and lonely? I don't think so. People have said that you should take a break from dating long enough to get your head screwed on straight. Those people, myself included, are talking to a wall. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden2 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I'm sorry, but with this attitude, you're not really in any psychological position to have kids. Is this what all of this is about? You MUST find a man, at all costs, and quickly, because you MUST, at all costs, have children? Have you any idea how that sounds....? 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Didn'tKnowIt Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 There is the MM 1 and This latest divorced one who led me on for a month and disappeared. We were supposed to meet on fri but he didnt confirm or cancel, silence since. Im really hurt but also wondering why he did this? Is there A way to find out without looking desperate. He did chase me for a month.. And this is your problem and one of the things that will drive you to insanity. Does it matter why he did it? The why doesn't matter. All that matters is that he did it. Never ask a person why they did something. It's pointless. You'll never get the real answer or one that is satisfactory. Plus, you are giving away your power to regulate your emotions based on how YOU feel and what YOU think because you are waiting to regulate them based on the reason why someone did what they did to you. Don't give someone that kind of power. All you need to worry about is that he did it and it hurt you. The why is irrelevant. Focus on how it made you feel and stop looking for reasons from him. If someone does something to hurt you, evaluate whether you want to keep exposing yourself to someone who hurts you. It's best to stop exposing yourself to someone who will hurt you. That's easier said than done, but in the long run, do you want to keep hurting or would you rather have peace or limited amount of emotional pain? In most cases, it's best to cut contact and deal with the temporary pain that will bring. As the saying goes: time heals all wounds. You can't heal if you keep exposing yourself to someone who will constantly open up old wounds and inflict fresh ones. The real question is: would you rather have temporary pain that will eventually end or do you want to remain in a perpetual cycle of pain? The choice is completely yours. That's the kind of power you have if you choice to wield it. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
whichwayisup Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I hear you, but to tell me stop dating means to tell i to not have kids. How can i have kids without a man, dating leads to all of this.., Thats the consquence of what your suggesting.. Nobody is telling you NOT to date or to marry in the future and have children. Right now you're not emotionally healthy TO be dating. Your man picker is off and you've made some bad choices when it comes to men. Fix you, find you, grow and be strong, be independent, be healthy - Then date. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
autumnnight Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 There is the MM 1 and This latest divorced one who led me on for a month and disappeared. We were supposed to meet on fri but he didnt confirm or cancel, silence since. Im really hurt but also wondering why he did this? Is there A way to find out without looking desperate. He did chase me for a month.. No, there is not a way to find this out without looking desperate. Why do you feel compelled to control and punish the behavior of everyone around you while refusing to honestly look at your own? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
autumnnight Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I hear you, but to tell me stop dating means to tell i to not have kids. How can i have kids without a man, dating leads to all of this.., Thats the consquence of what your suggesting.. You do not need to have children until your dysfunction has been addressed. Link to post Share on other sites
StocksnBlondes Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Hi OP ...dating really sucks sometimes. Anyway ...how old are you? The suggestion to take some time away from dating to establish healthy boundaries is a valid one. Being a parent is the hardest job I've ever had ...requires an immense amount of emotional resources. Also ...what is your occupation? Link to post Share on other sites
S2B Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I hear you, but to tell me stop dating means to tell i to not have kids. How can i have kids without a man, dating leads to all of this.., Thats the consquence of what your suggesting.. I'm flabbergasted that you can make these huge leaps that just jump all over the place... What's your point? What's your question now? I'm not sure you want any help - it's as though you just want to be angry here...is that the point or is there any way to help you help yourself? Link to post Share on other sites
ktya Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 She referredto him in the video as my husband, that is current. So he lied. He invited me as his g/f. She wasnt there. It was clear a woman had lived there as you could see a womans touch but it was also clear that her belongings etcwere no longer there. I took this to mean he was serious, as he brought me to his house. Now im thinking she may have been away and he had me over. If he lived with his wife and he shagged you in the bedroom there is absolutely no way he could have managed to completely get rid of all of her clothes, all of her makeup, all of her jewelery, all of her bathroom stuff, feminine products and shampoo, everything out of the closet, all of her shoes and everything else in the house. That would be such a collossal effort and he'd be bound to get busted when she came back home and found all of her stuff completely rearranged and clothes rumpled in the dresser and the closet completely reorganized. Chances are that he was telling the truth and they were separated, at least at the time. It's also quite possible, remember, that the wife wants him back and still refers to him as her husband (and possibly is the reason they're separated and not divorced, maybe she refuses to sign the papers or perhaps its for tax or benefit purposes). Take a step back and maybe ask him about the facebook post before jumping to conclusions Link to post Share on other sites
clam Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 OP... You should seriously consider professional counseling. Honestly, if you come across to these men the way you come across on this thread, it's pretty apparent why they "disappear." 1 Link to post Share on other sites
William Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Well, on that wonderfully upbeat note, I'll close this up. As an old-timer, thread starter, you know how to get hold of us for any changes. Thanks everyone for your participation. Link to post Share on other sites
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